Bethesda and Obsidian owe us an apology

Yes, the 2 companies that put this bug/crash/glitched of a f___ game out to the buyers market should apologize. Their patches that claim work aren't solving any issues, and from mines and thousands of others experiences, they need to get on a fix. Bethesda, shame on you for publishing a game you knew that was broken. Obsidian, why the hell would you even tell Bethesda "this game is fine and ready!"

Theres just so many **** bugs and crashed that make this game unplayable. I too wasted 10hours and now unable to progress cause of crashing issues.

It's Bethesda and Obsidian, everyone should have seen the bugs coming.

Thats cool for you man, ive had no bugs. If you ask me, bethesda owes me an apology for selling oblivion as an RPG when its an action game with rpg elements.

It's Bethesda and Obsidian, everyone should have seen the bugs coming.

Legendaryscmt

A few bugs is ok, thats normal for some games. But not constant crashes and freezes that prevent you from progressing through the game and wasting all the time you invested. A game this broken should not have been put out to the public. I currently have both patches installed and still have the same problem.

looks like these people feel the same I do:

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/10/21/fallout-new-vegas-pc-patched-xbox-360-and-ps3-still-waiting/#idc-cover

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

It's Bethesda and Obsidian, everyone should have seen the bugs coming.

grafficsak

A few bugs is ok, thats normal for some games. But not constant crashes and freezes that prevent you from progressing through the game and wasting all the time you invested. A game this broken should not have been put out to the public. I currently have both patches installed and still have the same problem.

looks like these people feel the same I do:

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/10/21/fallout-new-vegas-pc-patched-xbox-360-and-ps3-still-waiting/#idc-cover

[QUOTE="Shacks210"][QUOTE="grafficsak"]

A few bugs is ok, thats normal for some games. But not constant crashes and freezes that prevent you from progressing through the game and wasting all the time you invested. A game this broken should not have been put out to the public. I currently have both patches installed and still have the same problem.

looks like these people feel the same I do:

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/10/21/fallout-new-vegas-pc-patched-xbox-360-and-ps3-still-waiting/#idc-cover

grafficsak

When was there a single game w/o a bug? Seriously? gtfo. you have abolustely no ide what you're talking about. I few bugs is UNDERSTANDABLY normal, that is why most games have patches/fixes. anyways, no point argueing with a dumbsh*t. Game is broken, it had huge potential.

I can understand your frustration, haven't exactly had a bug-free experience myself, but man you need to relax a little. You're comin off kinda douch-ey.Mephers

you're right im just pissed, comes natural lol.

this video helped me relax....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bicIwwQhNtc

Which game exactly are we talking about?

Yes, the 2 companies that put this bug/crash/glitched of a f___ game out to the buyers market should apologize. Their patches that claim work aren't solving any issues, and from mines and thousands of others experiences, they need to get on a fix. Bethesda, shame on you for publishing a game you knew that was broken. Obsidian, why the hell would you even tell Bethesda "this game is fine and ready!"

Theres just so many **** bugs and crashed that make this game unplayable. I too wasted 10hours and now unable to progress cause of crashing issues.

grafficsak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKIkw3LIoQ

lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKIkw3LIoQ

lol

FatSlasH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKIkw3LIoQ

lol

FatSlasH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKIkw3LIoQ

lol

FatSlasH

The funny thing about that "bug" is that it isn't a bug in the actual game :-

Hines also suggested that for the spinning head bug, players should re-verify their files on Steam as the problem stems from a "corrupt mesh file."Hines

http://www.vg247.com/2010/10/20/fallout-new-vegas-patches-on-the-way-says-bethesda/

Now I don't mean to defend Bethesda or Oblivion both Fallout 3 and NV were ambitious open world games. There seems to be a tradtion that open world games tend to be extremely buggy and that probably won't change any time soon. I think another part of the issue is the fact they are pushing the gamebryo engine beyond what it is capable of doing couple that with the fact it doesn't particularly sit well with new PC tech and it is just asking for problems.

Now bugs aside I have had a load of fun with the game so far, I have spent 71 hours playing Fallout NV since release and I will admit the bugs are annoying but I am still having lots of fun with the game and getting my money worth.

If you are not happy with the way Fallout NV turned out then all I can suggest is you chalk this up to a lesson learned. In future don't buy Bethesda products if you are expecting a 100% flawless game (that includes not buying the console version either because they aren't flawless).

It's Bugsidian, what did you expect? EVERY game they've made is buggy as hell

Three months ago, when I saw the . . uh . . "choices" you could make, I knew that Obsidian was going to be more concerned with appealing to certain special interest groups, than with making a quality product. Bioware has gone down the same road.

I saw this coming, which is why I didn't buy the game. When every review on the planet talks about the ridiculous amount of bugs - I can't believe there are people still trying to deny it.

Three months ago, when I saw the . . uh . . "choices" you could make, I knew that Obsidian was going to be more concerned with appealing to certain special interest groups, than with making a quality product. Bioware has gone down the same road.

I saw this coming, which is why I didn't buy the game. When every review on the planet talks about the ridiculous amount of bugs - I can't believe there are people still trying to deny it.

Born_Lucky

I have had alot of crashes, but sometimes they are hrs apart. I am just suprised they have not released another patch by now. At this point I am starting to wonder if they ever will, the modders will probley fix this before they do.

It's Bugsidian, what did you expect? EVERY game they've made is buggy as hell

Darth_Kane

Three months ago, when I saw the . . uh . . "choices" you could make, I knew that Obsidian was going to be more concerned with appealing to certain special interest groups, than with making a quality product. Bioware has gone down the same road.

I saw this coming, which is why I didn't buy the game. When every review on the planet talks about the ridiculous amount of bugs - I can't believe there are people still trying to deny it.

Born_Lucky

I've had occasional crashing issues, low FPS issues, and I hate the lame combat system. I also hate Obsidian's action to use the same old Bethesda Engine. I had the feeling that F:NV is just a bit of a recycled game.

So, in short, I'm quite disappointed on F:NV. Not that it completely sucks big time.

Yes, the 2 companies that put this bug/crash/glitched of a f___ game out to the buyers market should apologize. Their patches that claim work aren't solving any issues, and from mines and thousands of others experiences, they need to get on a fix. Bethesda, shame on you for publishing a game you knew that was broken. Obsidian, why the hell would you even tell Bethesda "this game is fine and ready!"

Theres just so many **** bugs and crashed that make this game unplayable. I too wasted 10hours and now unable to progress cause of crashing issues.

grafficsak

[QUOTE="grafficsak"]

Yes, the 2 companies that put this bug/crash/glitched of a f___ game out to the buyers market should apologize. Their patches that claim work aren't solving any issues, and from mines and thousands of others experiences, they need to get on a fix. Bethesda, shame on you for publishing a game you knew that was broken. Obsidian, why the hell would you even tell Bethesda "this game is fine and ready!"

Theres just so many **** bugs and crashed that make this game unplayable. I too wasted 10hours and now unable to progress cause of crashing issues.

Gooeykat

[QUOTE="FatSlasH"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKIkw3LIoQ

lol

charmingcharlie

The funny thing about that "bug" is that it isn't a bug in the actual game :-

Hines also suggested that for the spinning head bug, players should re-verify their files on Steam as the problem stems from a "corrupt mesh file."Hines

http://www.vg247.com/2010/10/20/fallout-new-vegas-patches-on-the-way-says-bethesda/

Now I don't mean to defend Bethesda or Oblivion both Fallout 3 and NV were ambitious open world games. There seems to be a tradtion that open world games tend to be extremely buggy and that probably won't change any time soon. I think another part of the issue is the fact they are pushing the gamebryo engine beyond what it is capable of doing couple that with the fact it doesn't particularly sit well with new PC tech and it is just asking for problems.

Now bugs aside I have had a load of fun with the game so far, I have spent 71 hours playing Fallout NV since release and I will admit the bugs are annoying but I am still having lots of fun with the game and getting my money worth.

If you are not happy with the way Fallout NV turned out then all I can suggest is you chalk this up to a lesson learned. In future don't buy Bethesda products if you are expecting a 100% flawless game (that includes not buying the console version either because they aren't flawless).

[QUOTE="Gooeykat"][QUOTE="grafficsak"]

Yes, the 2 companies that put this bug/crash/glitched of a f___ game out to the buyers market should apologize. Their patches that claim work aren't solving any issues, and from mines and thousands of others experiences, they need to get on a fix. Bethesda, shame on you for publishing a game you knew that was broken. Obsidian, why the hell would you even tell Bethesda "this game is fine and ready!"

Theres just so many **** bugs and crashed that make this game unplayable. I too wasted 10hours and now unable to progress cause of crashing issues.

Animatronic64

I'm on the same level as you and agree with everything you said. Except i haven't yet encountered a bug that didn't let me finish a quest or screw up something.GeneralShowzer

The only quest killing bug I have come across is the monorail one (I won't say more for fear of spoiling it) suffice to say if you don't do the monorail quest in a specific way then it always ends in a bad outcome. The main annoyance for me at the moment is the constant crashing which can be either every 10 mins or the game can last hours without crashing. Needless to say I quick save every couple of minutes and main save every 30 minutes. I don't need to worry about cloud saving screwing things up because I play off line and thankfully it only takes 20 odd seconds to restart the game after a crash.

Now sure we shouldn't have to put up with this in this day and age but as games get more sophisticated and time constraints get worse then the situation is just going to get worse I am afraid.

Yes, the 2 companies that put this bug/crash/glitched of a f___ game out to the buyers market should apologize. Their patches that claim work aren't solving any issues, and from mines and thousands of others experiences, they need to get on a fix. Bethesda, shame on you for publishing a game you knew that was broken. Obsidian, why the hell would you even tell Bethesda "this game is fine and ready!"

Theres just so many **** bugs and crashed that make this game unplayable. I too wasted 10hours and now unable to progress cause of crashing issues.

grafficsak

Go play another game till they fix it. I understand your frustration, but its just a game. I'm going to wait to get it till the GOTY edition, anyways.

............Are we seriously surprised with this? Obsidian's Neverwinter Nights 2 game was released at a near unplayable state years back, where the game dragged every system down to a crawl in fps... And there were countless game stopping bugs.. (My personal favorite was the Monk monastery quest that forced me to restart the entire game over again due to it eating plot items).sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]............Are we seriously surprised with this? Obsidian's Neverwinter Nights 2 game was released at a near unplayable state years back, where the game dragged every system down to a crawl in fps... And there were countless game stopping bugs.. (My personal favorite was the Monk monastery quest that forced me to restart the entire game over again due to it eating plot items).Animatronic64

Yet again based on their track record this was expected.. The only thing is you shouldn't have bought the game to begin with.. Obsidian is shameless in doing this.

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]............Are we seriously surprised with this? Obsidian's Neverwinter Nights 2 game was released at a near unplayable state years back, where the game dragged every system down to a crawl in fps... And there were countless game stopping bugs.. (My personal favorite was the Monk monastery quest that forced me to restart the entire game over again due to it eating plot items).sSubZerOo

Yet again based on their track record this was expected.. The only thing is you shouldn't have bought the game to begin with.. Obsidian is shameless in doing this.

This thread is full of Bawwwwwww. I have probably on average about one crash for every 4 hours of gameplay, what I get with fully patched Fallout 3 or Oblivion. My performance is great on a midrange system. The game is bigger than Fallout 3 with deeper rpg mechanics, better quests, more memorable characters and locations, and better gameplay. They fixed some of the major complaints like levelled monster encounters and so far I have received only one quest breaking bug that was easily fixed with a simple console command.

In 12 hours i had 2 crashes, in less than 30 seconds i was playing the game again. The only bug i've had was with Dawes in the NCRCF. The only thing that bothers me isthe pop in.

This is one of the years best games, I have not had one crash, one save issue or one freeze.

The odd NPC gets stuck but thats it, this game is amaazing.

Thank you Obsidian for making this a true fallout game! So much better then Fallout3 imo.

Hell, I had more crashes in Oblivion and Modern Warfare2 then I have New Vegas

[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]

It's Bugsidian, what did you expect? EVERY game they've made is buggy as hell

dakan45

Three months ago, when I saw the . . uh . . "choices" you could make, I knew that Obsidian was going to be more concerned with appealing to certain special interest groups, than with making a quality product. Bioware has gone down the same road.

I saw this coming, which is why I didn't buy the game. When every review on the planet talks about the ridiculous amount of bugs - I can't believe there are people still trying to deny it.

Born_Lucky

Try teh game already, you always do this, talk trash about games before you even try them.

The game got 8.5 on PC, you said it would be even score toe console version.

Get over yourself Dakan, if you played the game you would know that the PC version isnt very buggy, its the console versions that are very buggy.\

Infact, I had more crashes in Oblivion, Fallout3 and The Witcher when they first came out then I have with New Vegas

Lucky for me, I havent noticed many bugs or had any crashes. The only problem I have is the chuggy performance when loading cells in the wasteland. I never had that with FO3.

I've had zero problems with the game other than a minor Steamcloud quick-save issue and since the patch that disabled it, the quick-saves are working again (although I still don't rely on them).

The piling on Obsidian is getting pretty old. It's a good example of the hive-mentality that's becoming much more commonplace in PC gaming. There are certain companies that get free-passes while others get ripped for releasing comparable products. I have to wonder how many of the people complaining have actually played the freakin' game. My guess is that it's pretty low.

Furthermore, most of the PC reviews that have mentioned bugs have also said they are relatively minor glitches, most having to do with Bethesda's engine and not Obsidian, and I've yet to read one review that says these bugs detract from the game or are game-breaking. The console version is possibly a different story but, then, I couldn't care less about the console version.

Oh, and I'm not discounting or dismissing that there are some people who are having real, legitimate issues with the game but that I'm afraid is simply the nature of PC gaming. On an open platform with literally thousands upon thousands of different hardware setups there will always be some people having conflicts while others have none. It's simply not possible for a developer or publisher to test a game on every possible permutation of PC hardware.

If somebody can name me one RPG that hasn't had bugs, hasn't needed a few patches to tidy it up, and has run flawlessly on every system I'd sure like to know about that game because I've never played it.

I would also suggest posting this in their official forums. Elann2008

lol, i would laugh if they actually apologized

no bugs or crashes here but im only about 4 hours in. slightly disappointed with the so called deeper rpg elements the game supposedly has over f3, any changes ive noticed have been subtle at best