Bethesda and Obsidian owe us an apology

No real game breaking bugs here...Nor quest breaking bugs. I spotted some minor, but there were a lot of those in Oblivion and Fallout 3 too. It's the engine, plus the games are too complex. This isn't some linear shooter, there are thousands of lines here for every NPC behavior.GeneralShowzer

Yeah, I've experienced very few problems. The only thing I've really noticed in my 33 hours of playing is a few glitches; flying cowss and some desert creatures swimming in rocks when you're exploring the wilderness. They're not game-breaking...just goofy.

It sucks that some people are having problems with this game. Fortunately, I am not one of them. I had a problem with FO3 when it first came out a couple of years ago where I couldn't even get the game to start. I kept getting CTD errors left and right. I understand the frustration of a product not working like it should directly out of the box. I also understand that gaming on pc means that the user has to be more attentive as to their system's structure, as there are more factors that come into play. For example, "Is your OS up to date? GPU drivers up to date? Are there conflicting video/audio codecs installed on your system?"

no bugs or crashes here but im only about 4 hours in. slightly disappointed with the so called deeper rpg elements the game supposedly has over f3, any changes ive noticed have been subtle at best

Macutchi

That sucks =/ Ive played 60 hours and have not crashed a single time. The only bug I had got patched right away and now it's gone =/

That sucks =/ Ive played 60 hours and have no crashed a single time. The only bug I had got patched right away and now it's gone =/

Prexxus

Besides a few oddities in physics and getting stuck on a box on occasion, I haven't had any problems with this game yet.

Any developer that gets in bed with Obsidian should be ashamed of themselves.

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]............Are we seriously surprised with this? Obsidian's Neverwinter Nights 2 game was released at a near unplayable state years back, where the game dragged every system down to a crawl in fps... And there were countless game stopping bugs.. (My personal favorite was the Monk monastery quest that forced me to restart the entire game over again due to it eating plot items).sSubZerOo

Yet again based on their track record this was expected.. The only thing is you shouldn't have bought the game to begin with.. Obsidian is shameless in doing this.

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"] The point is that this isn't acceptable. I do not pay these people to release buggy, unfinished, products. In my opinion, Obisidian should have spent a couple of months sorting out the glitches before releasing it. They clearly didn't do a good job of it.

sSubZerOo

Yet again based on their track record this was expected.. The only thing is you shouldn't have bought the game to begin with.. Obsidian is shameless in doing this.

It's a buggy engine, yes. It's also a pretty complex game, so it's natural for there to be some bugs on release. I have no idea why you expected a completely polished experience. Have you never played RPG's of this kind? Most big RPG's in recent memory were released in a buggy state. It just comes with the territory.

If you find you can't play at all just give it a rest for a while and wait for a couple more patches. Also, try re-installing, cleaning your HD, defragging, installing new video drivers, etc. Sometimes that helps.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]@Kozzy [QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Yet again based on their track record this was expected.. The only thing is you shouldn't have bought the game to begin with.. Obsidian is shameless in doing this.

Advid-Gamer

[QUOTE="dakan45"]@Kozzy [QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Yet again based on their track record this was expected.. The only thing is you shouldn't have bought the game to begin with.. Obsidian is shameless in doing this.

Advid-Gamer

Pretty much this, most of the bugs I've found in this game I've also found in Oblivion and Fallout 3. NV is consistent with the Gamebryo engine.

When are people gonna learn to never buy sp games at release?

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="dakan45"] All i have to say is in those quotes. Summary : Obsidian has a terrible track record of shameshly buggy games and this one is yet another as i have predicted ;) I TOLD YOU SO!!!dakan45

Its pathetic when the games dev's patches dont work and modders patches do. Its inexcusable to release a game in such a poor condition. Granted I love FO:NV, but no "oh its bethesda" doesnt cut it

Broken?
Ive sunk 97 hours into the game and only just now ran into a glitch that I cant work around.

Hardly Broken.

Edit* Scratch that, I CAN work around it, but I refuse to take another path besides the most righteous one =C

I was kinda sad when I did'nt get the devil man intro, so I took it out on the good doctor who proved to be enough of a devil to murder my ass.

I just finished Vault 11, the one where no one wanted to be Overseer..It was the highpoint of what I've completed so far. I've never seen storytelling so powerful and sublime in Fallout 3 or a Bioware game.

The only problem for me is the damn quick save bug. Other than that, no problems.

I didnt have any problems at all with the game till now,no crashes no bugs and no problems with the save games(my Nv is heavily modded)...about 30h of play...that dosent mean the game has no bugs or glitches...

@Dakan I dont know what you predicted but not all of us had problems with Oblivion,FO3 or FO NV...

I didnt have any problems at all with the game till now,no crashes no bugs and no problems with the save games(my Nv is heavily modded)...about 30h of play...that dosent mean the game has no bugs or glitches...

@Dakan I dont know what you predicted but not all of us had problems with Oblivion,FO3 or FO NV...

rhazzy

[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

I didnt have any problems at all with the game till now,no crashes no bugs and no problems with the save games(my Nv is heavily modded)...about 30h of play...that dosent mean the game has no bugs or glitches...

@Dakan I dont know what you predicted but not all of us had problems with Oblivion,FO3 or FO NV...

dakan45

they make a deal out of it because the reviews generally cater to console players which have more problems

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="rhazzy"]

I didnt have any problems at all with the game till now,no crashes no bugs and no problems with the save games(my Nv is heavily modded)...about 30h of play...that dosent mean the game has no bugs or glitches...

@Dakan I dont know what you predicted but not all of us had problems with Oblivion,FO3 or FO NV...

edinsftw

they make a deal out of it because the reviews generally cater to console players which have more problems

[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

I didnt have any problems at all with the game till now,no crashes no bugs and no problems with the save games(my Nv is heavily modded)...about 30h of play...that dosent mean the game has no bugs or glitches...

@Dakan I dont know what you predicted but not all of us had problems with Oblivion,FO3 or FO NV...

dakan45

The game is amazing, and has no more bugs then Fallout3 or Oblivion did on release. You would know this if you actualyl played the game. Instead you talk abotu "OMG I CALLED IT! I CALLED IT!" without playing the game. You called nothing, just makign yourself look bad. The console versions have tons of issues, the PC version though does not. Played 20+ hours on both xbox360 and PC version myself and the difference is HUGE, yet you are talking like you have played the game. People would actaully respect your opinion if you played gaems before you trashed them, you have done this with tons of games .

As one review said "I would rather have a gem of a game with some issues (like New Vegas) then a well polished turd (like Modern Warfare2)"

What? wait is that what you think i meant? :lol: No it has been proven that the pc version has plenty of issues too, i was just making fun on the fact the only reason they mentioned bugs was because they appearead alot in the consoles and not because of pc. As for that review "facepalm" Whoever he is is an idiot mw2 is the best game i have played in a long while and speaking of it i am gonna play it again right now. Time to prestige again.dakan45

"mw2 is the best game i have played in a long while" :lol:

Enjoy the 60$ rehash each year :P

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="rhazzy"] [QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="rhazzy"]

I didnt have any problems at all with the game till now,no crashes no bugs and no problems with the save games(my Nv is heavily modded)...about 30h of play...that dosent mean the game has no bugs or glitches...

@Dakan I dont know what you predicted but not all of us had problems with Oblivion,FO3 or FO NV...

kozzy1234

The game is amazing, and has no more bugs then Fallout3 or Oblivion did on release. You would know this if you actualyl played the game. Instead you talk abotu "OMG I CALLED IT! I CALLED IT!" without playing the game. You called nothing, just makign yourself look bad. The console versions have tons of issues, the PC version though does not. Played 20+ hours on both xbox360 and PC version myself and the difference is HUGE, yet you are talking like you have played the game. People would actaully respect your opinion if you played gaems before you trashed them, you have done this with tons of games .

As one review said "I would rather have a gem of a game with some issues (like New Vegas) then a well polished turd (like Modern Warfare2)"

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Fair enough, but internetz seems to make a huge deal out of it and not with oblivion and FO3 (i mean in reviews) and since that happens in obsidian games, lets just say i am willing to believe all those reviewers saying its too damn buggy.dakan45

they make a deal out of it because the reviews generally cater to console players which have more problems

What i meant was, unless the reviewer is a pc based one, they will cater to console players because that is where the market is at. The PC version has less bugs...honestly i havnt run into any. From what i know though the console versions have a lot of bugs that are game breaking.

[QUOTE="Mephers"]I can understand your frustration, haven't exactly had a bug-free experience myself, but man you need to relax a little. You're comin off kinda douch-ey.grafficsak

you're right im just pissed, comes natural lol.

this video helped me relax....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bicIwwQhNtc

because your individual experience typifies the global experience of gamers worldwide with the product, solid logic, no bugs for you therefore nobody experiences bugs therefore they should stop complaining

robokill

so, let's be logical: when some people have encountered just some minor glitches, yet others meet huge cracks when playing the game; the game is the very same Fallout: New Vegas, and thus a constant, the effective varible must be something else than the game itself. in PC gaming, it's oftentime the various system configuration and the condition of gamers' PCs. if you are very bad at keeping your PC clean, you more likely will run into "bugs" that others don't know about.

generally speaking, F:NV has less gitches than Fallout 3, at least you don't need to do a ini fix to make the game quad-core friendly.

personally, I'd say I have to thank Bethesda because they let Obsidian rather than themelves to develop F:NV, which is a worthy successor to original Fallouts.

give up ,OK?? 8)

While we're at it i'll take an apology for turning Fallout into an FPS.

While we're at it i'll take an apology for turning Fallout into an FPS.

Game-fu

The best rpg on the pc is a fps, its called deus ex, theres nothing wrong with FPS, fallout fanboys just cant seem to grasp any sort of change.

[QUOTE="Game-fu"]

While we're at it i'll take an apology for turning Fallout into an FPS.

warmaster670

The best rpg on the pc is a fps, its called deus ex, theres nothing wrong with FPS, fallout fanboys just cant seem to grasp any sort of change.

it takes certain degree of fanboyism to claim any game as the best of a genre. especially when we have Torment, BG2, original Fallouts, VtMB and such in the RPG realm. I have to admit that I'm a Torment fanboy.

I myself don't mind the combat system change in Fallout 3; its fault is the overly simpifying of role-playing and disregarding of original Fallout lore. F:NV on the other hand, not only delivers more satisfaying role-playing experience, but also captures the original lore adquately; the wasteland finally is a dangerous place to roam about.

[QUOTE="Game-fu"]

While we're at it i'll take an apology for turning Fallout into an FPS.

warmaster670

The best rpg on the pc is a fps, its called deus ex, theres nothing wrong with FPS, fallout fanboys just cant seem to grasp any sort of change.

First of all, I disagree that Deus Ex is the best PC RPG of all-time. Thats your opinion so don't try and state it as some sort of explicit fact. Secondly, defending Fallout as an FPS isn't any less fanboy-ish than detracting from it for the same reason. Forum trolls just cant seem to grasp any sort of difference of opinion.

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="Game-fu"]

While we're at it i'll take an apology for turning Fallout into an FPS.

Game-fu

The best rpg on the pc is a fps, its called deus ex, theres nothing wrong with FPS, fallout fanboys just cant seem to grasp any sort of change.

First of all, I disagree that Deus Ex is the best PC RPG of all-time. Thats your opinion so don't try and state it as some sort of explicit fact. Secondly, defending Fallout as an FPS isn't any less fanboy-ish than detracting from it for the same reason. Forum trolls just cant seem to grasp any sort of difference of opinion.

And it wasn't just the change in perspective that irked a lot of longtime Fallout fans. FO:3 completely missed the mark on the atmosphere, lore, role-playing, etc. that made Fallout great.

At least NV, while definitely not perfect, recaptures a lot of the spirit that made the original games so wonderful (especially playing in hardcore mode). I know that I've personally talked my way out of a lot more situations (and used many more of my skills, other than simply shooting everything in the face, to solve quests) than I ever did in FO:3.

FO:3 was a FPS (and not a very good one at that) that included some very lite RPG elements whereas NV feels, at least from my perspective, a lot more like a RPG played from a first-person perspective.

LOL at being owed an apology.