BF3 gripes...legitemate

[QUOTE="Tixylixx"]

Just love how they didn't release an SDK so they could release all these maps and charge instead of getting the community involved with an SDK, so they could make their own maps and mods. Funny thing is mods sell games, more people bought BF1942 for DC mod more than the original game, so many people bought HL so they could play CS. People bought UT04 for Red Orchestra and BF2 for Project reality and custom maps is what sold most FPS games out today, they even created a genre with DOTA.

This is why I wont support DICE, they're more interested in getting a cheap buck, rather than building a game for the community.

Zubinen

Well DICE made the engine...

I'd just rather play an online FPS where we can mod it to make it better and have community made maps that are actually fun, the standard BF3 maps are just bad apart from one or two and bored of them already.

How is the mortar cheap?

My gripe is that i absolutely suck at the game.JohnF111

I am upset that there are no bots to play against like BF2. It would be nice to get used to a map and vehicles against bots before going online. I think if I remember correctly, BF2 bots came later on, and they were horrendous at first. They are still terrible, but the point is, you can actually practice flying a heli or jet without taking 50 deaths to feel like you have a grasp on it.

Also, when the hackers seem rampant and the teams are all unbalanced on a particular night, it is relaxing to play against bots instead of smashing your keyboard and shaking your fist at DICE for the evening. Hehe.

[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="Tixylixx"]

Just love how they didn't release an SDK so they could release all these maps and charge instead of getting the community involved with an SDK, so they could make their own maps and mods. Funny thing is mods sell games, more people bought BF1942 for DC mod more than the original game, so many people bought HL so they could play CS. People bought UT04 for Red Orchestra and BF2 for Project reality and custom maps is what sold most FPS games out today, they even created a genre with DOTA.

This is why I wont support DICE, they're more interested in getting a cheap buck, rather than building a game for the community.

Tixylixx

Well DICE made the engine...

I'd just rather play an online FPS where we can mod it to make it better and have community made maps that are actually fun, the standard BF3 maps are just bad apart from one or two and bored of them already.

Autobalance is up to the owner of the server, right?

Anyways, I agree with you on the cheap guns. The USAS-12 frag rounds drives me crazy.

Autobalance is up to the owner of the server, right?

Anyways, I agree with you on the cheap guns. The USAS-12 frag rounds drives me crazy.

realguitarhero5

The worst thing is, bf3 wont let my brother and I play online at the same time. It will kick whoever logged in first so the second person to join can play. Nick3306

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="MacBoomStick"]

My gripes are that it is dumbed down. Vanilla BF2 is much better and with PR, BF3 is just worthless.

MythPro1

Everybody always says PR.

PR IS SO GOOD GUYS, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IT AGAIN.

Does anybody remember that DICE didn't actually make PR? They made BF2 which was also horribly flawed until about a year after launch. So quickly to forget. I guess people just forgot when they were padding their stats with the unkillable BF2 jets.

how come you didnt mention the claymores? worst part of game imo support gets unlimited amounts of them and unlike cod there is no perk to see them them or make them trip later etc. angrules23

You can spot them, and they will appear on your minimap, unless you are playing on a hardcore server. and they can be passed by crouching or going prone. Unlimted amount yes, but you can only have 2 placed at a time. As for rush, throw a nade near the capture chest, and you are most likely safe.

The USAS is overpowered, most because of the lack of recoil. according to patch, this will be increased as well as fewer pellets. So decreased damage.

3. Yes, there are cheap and overpowered guns but what can you do? The M16A3 is unstoppable while the AEK is borderline. Nothing you can do but wait for the big patch. I almost never get blown up with explosive weapons but that's because I keep moving.Pvt_r3d

Commander was useless 90% of the time anyways. Now's my turn to list it's improvements.

Jets aren't godly, WAY more customization, a better balance of maps (sure they're not all huge, but there are huge maps and smaller maps. there are maps for everyone), Hit detection is way better (IMO), Destructible environments, rewards for things like suppression, snipers aren't ridiculously cheap (no scope movement anyone?).

Too much ridiculous unlocks, the vanilla maps are horribly small and unbalanced for 64 players(tacking on two flags doesn't magically make a map balanced for 64 players. Having them clustered doesn't help either, they need to be spread out and repositioned.) The only semi-big map in BF3 is Gulf Of Oman. Sniping and quick scoping is piss easy in BF3. Hit detection IS NOT BETTER. So bending bullets means the hit detection is better? Little rewards are irrelavent. The only thing that should matter in a BF game is teamwork and winning the match.

Of course no VOIP and Mods sucks, but I can live with it because they made a lot of improvements. If anything, they gave the game more depth rather than dumb it down

When it comes to thinking, skill, and teamwork required, BF3 is dumbed down.

My biggest gripe though is with Jets. How the hell am I supposed to level up to get flares and missiles when it is next to impossible to survive without said flares and missiles? I just get shot out of the sky the first 30 seconds I go up. Maybe I just suck, but I find it pretty unfair.

SF_KiLLaMaN

Reply in red. BF3 is generic as they come.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Commander was useless 90% of the time anyways. Now's my turn to list it's improvements.

Jets aren't godly, WAY more customization, a better balance of maps (sure they're not all huge, but there are huge maps and smaller maps. there are maps for everyone), Hit detection is way better (IMO), Destructible environments, rewards for things like suppression, snipers aren't ridiculously cheap (no scope movement anyone?).

Too much ridiculous unlocks, the vanilla maps are horribly small and unbalanced for 64 players(tacking on two flags doesn't magically make a map balanced for 64 players. Having them clustered doesn't help either, they need to be spread out and repositioned.) The only semi-big map in BF3 is Gulf Of Oman. Sniping and quick scoping is piss easy in BF3. Hit detection IS NOT BETTER. So bending bullets means the hit detection is better? Little rewards are irrelavent. The only thing that should matter in a BF game is teamwork and winning the match.

Of course no VOIP and Mods sucks, but I can live with it because they made a lot of improvements. If anything, they gave the game more depth rather than dumb it down

When it comes to thinking, skill, and teamwork required, BF3 is dumbed down.

My biggest gripe though is with Jets. How the hell am I supposed to level up to get flares and missiles when it is next to impossible to survive without said flares and missiles? I just get shot out of the sky the first 30 seconds I go up. Maybe I just suck, but I find it pretty unfair.

PC4lifeman2233

Reply in red. BF3 is generic as they come.

[QUOTE="MacBoomStick"]

My gripes are that it is dumbed down. Vanilla BF2 is much better and with PR, BF3 is just worthless.

Wasdie

Everybody always says PR.

PR IS SO GOOD GUYS, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IT AGAIN.

Does anybody remember that DICE didn't actually make PR? They made BF2 which was also horribly flawed until about a year after launch. So quickly to forget. I guess people just forgot when they were padding their stats with the unkillable BF2 jets.

we cant have it again because dice hasnt released any mod tools for bf3, and probably never will. and pr was good for a while, but then they kept tinkering with it to the point that it was no longer any fun. once they patched out rally points it really went downhill.

[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Commander was useless 90% of the time anyways. Now's my turn to list it's improvements.

Jets aren't godly, WAY more customization, a better balance of maps (sure they're not all huge, but there are huge maps and smaller maps. there are maps for everyone), Hit detection is way better (IMO), Destructible environments, rewards for things like suppression, snipers aren't ridiculously cheap (no scope movement anyone?).

Too much ridiculous unlocks, the vanilla maps are horribly small and unbalanced for 64 players(tacking on two flags doesn't magically make a map balanced for 64 players. Having them clustered doesn't help either, they need to be spread out and repositioned.) The only semi-big map in BF3 is Gulf Of Oman. Sniping and quick scoping is piss easy in BF3. Hit detection IS NOT BETTER. So bending bullets means the hit detection is better? Little rewards are irrelavent. The only thing that should matter in a BF game is teamwork and winning the match.

Of course no VOIP and Mods sucks, but I can live with it because they made a lot of improvements. If anything, they gave the game more depth rather than dumb it down

When it comes to thinking, skill, and teamwork required, BF3 is dumbed down.

My biggest gripe though is with Jets. How the hell am I supposed to level up to get flares and missiles when it is next to impossible to survive without said flares and missiles? I just get shot out of the sky the first 30 seconds I go up. Maybe I just suck, but I find it pretty unfair.

SF_KiLLaMaN

Reply in red. BF3 is generic as they come.

Have to say I used to hate them large maps, always played Karkand because the fighting was intense and short ranged. It's no fun having to travel across the map to die to have to do it again.

Have to say I used to hate them large maps, always played Karkand because the fighting was intense and short ranged. It's no fun having to travel across the map to die to have to do it again.

Tixylixx

[QUOTE="Tixylixx"]

Have to say I used to hate them large maps, always played Karkand because the fighting was intense and short ranged. It's no fun having to travel across the map to die to have to do it again.

PC4lifeman2233

If you think Caspian Border is a small map then I have nothing to say. It is definitely big enough for 64 players, I think you're just trying to find things to b*tch about because you miss BF2.SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]If you think Caspian Border is a small map then I have nothing to say. It is definitely big enough for 64 players, I think you're just trying to find things to b*tch about because you miss BF2.PC4lifeman2233

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]If you think Caspian Border is a small map then I have nothing to say. It is definitely big enough for 64 players, I think you're just trying to find things to b*tch about because you miss BF2.PC4lifeman2233

[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]If you think Caspian Border is a small map then I have nothing to say. It is definitely big enough for 64 players, I think you're just trying to find things to b*tch about because you miss BF2.SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]If you think Caspian Border is a small map then I have nothing to say. It is definitely big enough for 64 players, I think you're just trying to find things to b*tch about because you miss BF2.Zubinen

My biggest gripe is that the game freezes on me between map changes. It stops loading so I have to close and re open the game almost every map in multiplayer. Also the hackers are annoying too, I don't know why they bother doing what they do.

My biggest gripe is that the game freezes on me between map changes. It stops loading so I have to close and re open the game almost every map in multiplayer. Also the hackers are annoying too, I don't know why they bother doing what they do.

LeadnSteel

I love BF3 and I think it is one of the finest multiplayer FPS games I have ever played. In fact, it's the only multiplayer game I play regularly these days.

My only gripe? Lack of VOIP. VOIP was awesome in BF2, shame they didn't bring it for BF3.

[QUOTE="LeadnSteel"]

My biggest gripe is that the game freezes on me between map changes. It stops loading so I have to close and re open the game almost every map in multiplayer. Also the hackers are annoying too, I don't know why they bother doing what they do.

Chris_53

Oh yeah I forgot to mention this part too, it happens to me alot.

[QUOTE="LeadnSteel"]

My biggest gripe is that the game freezes on me between map changes. It stops loading so I have to close and re open the game almost every map in multiplayer. Also the hackers are annoying too, I don't know why they bother doing what they do.

Chris_53

[QUOTE="Chris_53"][QUOTE="LeadnSteel"]

My biggest gripe is that the game freezes on me between map changes. It stops loading so I have to close and re open the game almost every map in multiplayer. Also the hackers are annoying too, I don't know why they bother doing what they do.

demi0227_basic

[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"] Typical fanboy response. PC4lifeman2233

Maybe larger than vanilla maps, but the B2K maps are a 1:1 scale more or less. Some tweaks were made to Karkand to eliminate a pointless capture point and reduce the US spawn distance from the first capture point.

If you don't believe me, go to BF2 and see the distances between the flags. They are almost identical. You just move much faster in BF3 and there is no fog.

[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"][QUOTE="Zubinen"] BF2 maps weren't as large as nostalgia leads one to believe, in BF2 movement was much slower for everything with the exception of jets, view distance was also very short, maps had low detail, and flags were spread apart whereas in BF3(even in for example the picture of Caspian Border) the flags are bunched together near the center of the maps.Wasdie

Maybe larger than vanilla maps, but the B2K maps are a 1:1 scale more or less. Some tweaks were made to Karkand to eliminate a pointless capture point and reduce the US spawn distance from the first capture point.

If you don't believe me, go to BF2 and see the distances between the flags. They are almost identical. You just move much faster in BF3 and there is no fog.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"] LOL the BF2 maps are bigger.PC4lifeman2233

Maybe larger than vanilla maps, but the B2K maps are a 1:1 scale more or less. Some tweaks were made to Karkand to eliminate a pointless capture point and reduce the US spawn distance from the first capture point.

If you don't believe me, go to BF2 and see the distances between the flags. They are almost identical. You just move much faster in BF3 and there is no fog.