Bioshock, the coolest, best looking, best designed game I just dont like...

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#1 Store24
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I don't know what it is about this game but I just can't get into it. And I don't have anything but good things to say about it. It looks phenomenal! I love the underwater world and retro art deco look. I love the 50s eramusic as I have been a jazz fan for decades. The story is cool, and very eerie in a good way...

So why don't I even want to play this game? I'm not even half way through and just never am in the mood to play it. I have seen a lot of other people say similar things about it.

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#2 Staryoshi87
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I only got 2 hours into it, despite liking it. I just can't sit down and play it.... it never sucked me in despite being so neat =/ I even got teh CE =P
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#3 visceron
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Maybe you have been playing too many games and just need to do something else. Happens to me.
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#4 heatpackinyum
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People seem to forget that you're allowed to dislike things.

If it's not your cup of tea, play something else that you dig more.

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#5 Store24
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I think maybe I just got too many new games at one time. Kind of like when you go out and buy a stack of books you want to read and then cant get into any of them because you have too many options.
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#6 nemes1s3000
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It could mean.. that you're finally growing up.
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#7 visceron
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Trust I have the same problem, but I am trying to focus.
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#8 mrbojangles25
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Well, lemme make a list of what I dont like about bioshock and maybe you might find something to justify yourself (not that you need any justification, but anyway...)

1. Plasmids are a copout: other than coming from your hand, how are they different from a gun? You might have a few that are unique, but the level designers dont really seem to take advantage of them. Its either shock'em and shoot'em or freeze'em and bash'em.

2. No challenge: first, they took away death aka a punishment for failing. Why dont they turn on god mode for us as well? Second, they made every bad guy a loud mouth singing down the halls "jesus loves me this I know...." so NOTHING suprises you, not to mention it makes it easy to sneak up on them.

3. Length: I played it on moderate difficulty and the game lasted about 10 hours. I seem to remember them saying the game took 20 hours. And yes, I explored every level fully, waited for every big daddy, and got every single little sister.

4. Voice acting: holy crap the voice acting in this game is horrible. It just didnt suck me in...all I could think every time Ryan spoke or I played a recording was "wow this is horrible voice acting". For a game with amazing environmental atmosphere, it sure was ruined by everything else.

5. Boss fight: I dont think I have ever been so let down by a boss fight in my gaming life. It was way way way too easy.

Now, before I get flamed, lemme say this: Bioshock is a decent game. Imo, it deserves a high-6 to mid-7 according to the gamespot scoring system. It wasnt the revolution the developers promised us, nor did it live up to its pedigree (aka System Shock 2).

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#9 Store24
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Oh it deserves an 8.0+ minimum for what it is! It is basically the first DX10 game and looks AMAZING! And its not all graphics, it has a really good, well thought out story too.

I think it's just the game play and weapons that let the game down. That and like game islike Doom 3, etc. in that once you have killed all the bad guys you are just left walking around in a boring empty level trying to find or do what ever you need to do the move on.

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#10 Herrick
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2. No challenge: first, they took away death aka a punishment for failing. Why dont they turn on god mode for us as well? Second, they made every bad guy a loud mouth singing down the halls "jesus loves me this I know...." so NOTHING suprises you, not to mention it makes it easy to sneak up on them.mrbojangles25

The enemies were damned annoying. The tommy gun, pistol, & shotgun sucked and didn't do as much damage as you'd think but I hardly ever died. On the hardest difficulty level, I had the maximum amount of health kits and eve hypos for the vast majority of the game. There's just soooo many health kids & eve hypos that it made the game too easy. Plus the Immortality as you've already mentioned.

I thought BioShock was amazing when I first played it. Then it gradually lost its effect on Herrick. Sure I played it non-stop for a week, which is something I can't say for most games. But after I beat it, I just uninstalled it and forgot about it.

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#11 overkill88888
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for me it was the controls, they just didn't feel as tight as i wanted them to

felt like a console game on pc

this also happened to me in halo 2

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#13 Herrick
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for me it was the controls, they just didn't feel as tight as i wanted them to

felt like a console game on pc

overkill88888

Agreed, mang.

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#14 HaloEleven
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horrible game. uninstalled it after 2 hours. Mouse controls were unplayable.
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#15 ViolentPressure
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I am the same way, I love everything about the game and I think it's a GOTY quality type game in every single way.... but I never ever play it. I have nothing but good things to say about it, but for some reason I never feel like playing it... It's so strange to find out im not the only one that feels this way.
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#16 _eDdySON_
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I found the levels to be just too...broad. I'm used to the linear gameplay that every other game before it provided.
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#17 Bgrngod
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The only thing that is keeping me playing it is the pretty cool story at the atmosphere about the game. The art design is what makes up about 90% of what I like about it.

The actual act of shooting is just boring. They managed to make the enemies about as exciting as the mushrooms in Mario Bros. The instant respawns were just a lame solution for the horribly unbalanced game play.

They really could have done a lot better with it.

I'd give it an 8.0 for a review score.

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#18 kutty12000
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I found the levels to be just too...broad. I'm used to the linear gameplay that every other game before it provided._eDdySON_
This and the 'horrible voice acting' are the most strange complaints I've heard. The voice acting was perfect!
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#19 00Raziel00
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I think Bioshock is one of the best games i have played but it seriously is not for everyone.
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#20 ADG_
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I really don't have anything positive to say about the game, except the story but story in fps doesn't have a high priority for me, so that doesn't really count) First of it has boring powers shooting out of your hand, sorry but I don't like stuff like that, this is the reason I don't like 99% of all rpg games out there. Then there's the guns, they look too fake and doesn't do much damage (the wrench is a better weapon IMHO) Then there's the enemies. What do we have? Zombies, zombies and more zombies. And they are very easy to take out, doesn't take much to take out three zombies with a wrench Also the level design is boring. I don't like one-way-streets, I want it to be more open ended. The locations aren't my cup of tea either, I don't find it exciting to run around in a hospital And what's with this "you die, we recreate your body" rule? I never used it as the game was easy enough as it is. Should only be available in the easier levels IMHO And the 50's style... just not my style After one hour I quit... Bioshock includes everything I would hate to see in a game
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#21 omerdv
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I have the same problem, I just can't play it......

The mouse controls are so bad, it's just unplayable.....

I just didn't get into it, I NEVER feel like playing it...... should I uninstall it or should I finish it?

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#22 jasoncesario
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Remedy ===> give the game away, than....

Play one of the million other great games out their that are not hyped up as much as BS.

I recommend Stalker or Gothic 3

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#23 LagMan_pt
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in my opinion this is a truly artistic game, everything about its art is original maybe thats why some people dont get it, you really need to get into it. Turn the lights out, use your phones and youll see. There are so many real live issues this game adresses it really makes you think, if you play it like a movie/book and not like a conventional game. The guys at 2 k created a whole civilization underwater and just for that they have my aproval. Its like those bands you hear and dont like, but after listening a little more start to like, maybe thats because their not so common.Besides i dont understand some of the complains ive heard, things like bad voice acting (come on, part of the story is based on voice acting), badcontrols (this game has pretty tight controls and reasy to use), limited combat (only because you want itwhen i play i use all plasmids n scenery and its pretty fun), and the worse of all -never diing, i never used thet system because i prefer to quick load when i die and there problem solved! I dont think the game is perfect but its really something different.

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#24 mfsa
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You really honestly aren't missing much.

The combat is mediocre throughout - sure, there are tons of neat tools at your disposal, but actually using them isn't really enjoyable. Maybe the first time, just out of inquisitiveness, but you'll quickly find a combination that works for you, and thanks to the almost unlimited supply of money, ammo an health (even at hard) you'll be able to use that combination over and over. For just about the entire game.

I went with electrobolt/wrench for most of the game like everyone else, and decoy dummy/grenade launcher for big daddies. The whole emergentness of it actually shot itself in the foot. In most other shooters, there are lots of very specialised weapons with very specialised roles, and you ideally have to use that weapon in that situation. So you'll find yourself using a large variety of weapons. But not really in Bioshock,The game catered to myown desire for effective and efficient combat by making particular weapons/abilities simply more useful than others.

And as a roleplaying game, if you can even call it that, it's just bad. You can build a character to a moderate extent, but it's far more like Dark Messiah than Deus Ex. I do like the way they got away from the whole stats thing by giving players clearly understandable additional abilities (like an electricity shield or the ability to turn invisible when idle), but these just don't have any real impact on gameplay. Could literally remove them and it would not really change much. Any feature that can be removed without impacting the game is either pointless filler or a fun novelty - gene tonics are somewhere inbetween. Oh, and the moral choice has no real impact on the game at all, and there's enough Adam to buy just about everything.

Storywise, it's awesomeif you haven't played System Shock 2. If you have, there's utterly no reason to really pay attention to the story. The adio logs are terrible on the whole, there's utterly no sense of the horrors the people of Rapture faced, it's all very grey-coloured. Some of the characters are okay - Sander Cohen is one of my favourite insane computer game characters ever, but the rest are very forgettable, really.

Atmosphere is meh. There's utterly no horror (sacrificed for the emergent gunplay) and frankly there's almost never a sense of personal danger unless you try to have a fist fight with a Big Daddy.

It's not that it's a bad game - in fact, I think it's great, it's just that it's 10% of what it might have been. It's funny, I'm always looking for innovation and new ways of doing things, but with Bioshock I would've been happier if Irrational had just copied to the letter System Shock 2 from '98. Better atmosphere, horror masterpiece, better character development - I'd even say better combat, thanks to support mechanics like atmosphere and horror.

Yeah, though - you aren't missing much, and if you ever played Shock 2, you aren't missing anything. And if you never did get to play SS2, try and find a copy. It's a much better game.

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#25 Johnny_Rock
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Remedy ===> give the game away, than....

Play one of the million other great games out their that are not hyped up as much as BS.

I recommend Stalker or Gothic 3

jasoncesario

That's a joke, right? Stalker was the most overhyped game in existance... besides DNF. And sucked fairly bad to boot.

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#26 ADG_
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Stalker was actually fun to play, weapons in Stalker was a lot more diverse (and better), enemies was more interesting too, you have an open-ended world and more interesting locations. Stalker did everything better than Bioshock, with the exception of optimization (Stalker is badly optimized... a shame really)
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#27 mrbojangles25
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Remedy ===> give the game away, than....

Play one of the million other great games out their that are not hyped up as much as BS.

I recommend Stalker or Gothic 3

jasoncesario

Ah, yet another reason to hate the game! You cant give it away since when you install it they imbed something in your motherboard or whatever. If you try to install it on another PC and its not the original PC you installed it on, they wont let you authenticate it. So I have been told.

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#28 jwsoul
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It could mean.. that you're finally growing up.nemes1s3000

How about you grow up and stop insulting however indirectly our hobby....Why do you need to grow up to not play games anymore i know a few 60+ people who play games in some form, jeez why are you on these forums if you consider it so immature? So because i play football at 23 i need to grow up NO jeez man.

Anyhow shame TC that you can not get into the game this rarley happens to myself but looking at Bio Shock it maybe all this and all that but at the end of the day it is yet another FPS a very good one with original elements and one of the best FPS i have played in a while.

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#29 Ney_
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Basically the only enemy you're fighting the whole time is the same (splicers). Don't know if it's me, but I can't see any difference at all between them. Only difference is the amount of bullets each of them has to take before they go down. To me that is enough to not play through the game again. Great game the first time through but zero replay value (to me at least).
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#30 schu
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keep playing it..you might change your mind...

SPOILER ALERT::

the best part was when you beat ryan to death with the golf club

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#31 Guiltfeeder566
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I find myself disappointed with a lot of games recently. They all seem to lack orginalty.
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#32 JP_Russell
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I nominate mfsa's and mrbojangles' evaluations as the most informative in this thread. :)
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#33 mo0ksi
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I was pretty dissapointed with Bioshock. I'm playing it now just to say I beat it. The experience I had was pretty dull and I would have given the game a 7.5.
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#34 Creative
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I played it for a few hours . . . boring. Hit detection and overal weapons and enemies do not
attract me at all. I don't like the graphics in game either (i run it maxed out).

Reminds me Deus Ex II set in 50s. I never liked Deus Ex II.

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#35 acsguitar
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I enjoyed the game but was dissapointed in it as it could have been so much more.

The scene with the doctor and the people on the walls was amazing. I woulda loved more of this. I woulda liked it to be more fear like with its creepinees.. it was just kinda not as good as I hoped.

I HATED stalker. finally I beat it and now I think back about how good that game was.

Bioshock I was like "Neat" and thats about it. Don't really care to play it again.

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#36 f22rf
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One of the things I don't understand is why ppl think it has great graphics. I play at Max specs and there's nothing prety at all imo, looks like a 3 year old game at least

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#37 robertoenrique
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dude what the hell are you talking about??? dont post dumb comments
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#38 neatfeatguy
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I don't know what it is about this game but I just can't get into it. And I don't have anything but good things to say about it. It looks phenomenal! I love the underwater world and retro art deco look. I love the 50s eramusic as I have been a jazz fan for decades. The story is cool, and very eerie in a good way...

So why don't I even want to play this game? I'm not even half way through and just never am in the mood to play it. I have seen a lot of other people say similar things about it.

Store24

What it means is that you're finally tired of playing games and you now want to send me your PC and all PC games you own. You can keep any console-ish stuff, I don't care much for them.

I enjoyed most of the story line for Bioshock, but the actual gameplay wasn't anything to get excited about.Once the story hit its climax point, the game just fell apart and I had to force myself to finish. Let alone the fact that the AI is "console dumb"; they don't find cover and they make a lot of noise, so you constantly know where they are.

Perhaps you just need a break from playing for a bit. Every once in a great while I grow tired of feeling like no games are keeping my attention; so I take a few full days off from playing and then I slowly work my way back into games again.

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#39 f22rf
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dude what the hell are you talking about??? dont post dumb comments robertoenrique

I'm not, that's realy what I think, ok mayB I went too far with the 3 year game, but realy didn't make it for me at all

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#40 d12malu
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Boishock was the same for me. Its a good game for what it is but I just wasnt into it. Linear levels and shallow gameplay turned me off big time. It just feels generic once you get over the graphics and 50s look.
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#41 Gooeykat
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Same here, bought the CE, the game is just so utterly depressing. I just don't feel like playing it.
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#42 robokill
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same thing hapenned to me, once you get a hang of how the combat system works it gets a lot easier to play. My first recommendation is to get fraps and make sure you are playing on a framerate where the enemies don't create any stutter 35+ minimum, on my old computer there was horrible stutter and I hated the game for it. Second of all you have to play the combat like a normal shooter, I hated the game originally because of how the combat felt but once you get some good powers it really gets good. Also note that difficulty can be tough depending on how you play even if the same strategy works in other games. It really is a good game but the ending is meh
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#43 OoSuperMarioO
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what's Bioshock?
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#44 robertoenrique
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[QUOTE="robertoenrique"]dude what the hell are you talking about??? dont post dumb comments f22rf

I'm not, that's realy what I think, ok mayB I went too far with the 3 year game, but realy didn't make it for me at all

sorry man not you, mistaken quote lol.

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in my opinion this is a truly artistic game, everything about its art is original maybe thats why some people dont get it, you really need to get into it. Turn the lights out, use your phones and youll see. There are so many real live issues this game adresses it really makes you think, if you play it like a movie/book and not like a conventional game. The guys at 2 k created a whole civilization underwater and just for that they have my aproval. Its like those bands you hear and dont like, but after listening a little more start to like, maybe thats because their not so common.Besides i dont understand some of the complains ive heard, things like bad voice acting (come on, part of the story is based on voice acting), badcontrols (this game has pretty tight controls and reasy to use), limited combat (only because you want itwhen i play i use all plasmids n scenery and its pretty fun), and the worse of all -never diing, i never used thet system because i prefer to quick load when i die and there problem solved! I dont think the game is perfect but its really something different.

LagMan_pt

I totally agree with you its how i feel about the game.

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Most overrated game of the decade. After about the second half, I found myself maxed out in everything (plasmids, money, ammo, weapons, etc. etc), and there just wasn't much to do. Then came the lame ending, and I was over it.

The game play was obviously dumbed down for the console crowd, which is too bad. It had a lot of potential.

But in the end, I didn't battle a *single* Big Daddy. Just hacked cameras, lured BDs into range, painted them with a bullseye, and let the bots do the rest. I suppose I could've gone mano y mano with the BDs, but why bother? To make the game more "exciting?"

Yawn.

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#47 f22rf
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[QUOTE="f22rf"]

[QUOTE="robertoenrique"]dude what the hell are you talking about??? dont post dumb comments robertoenrique

I'm not, that's realy what I think, ok mayB I went too far with the 3 year game, but realy didn't make it for me at all

sorry man not you, mistaken quote lol.

No prob mate

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#48 Srinivassa
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Boishock was the same for me. Its a good game for what it is but I just wasnt into it. Linear levels and shallow gameplay turned me off big time. It just feels generic once you get over the graphics and 50s look.d12malu
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#49 -AK47-
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same thing happened to me. I got 30% through it and stopped playing.
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#50 Comando156
Member since 2004 • 50 Posts
Same thing happend to me. Game looks great, love the feal, but cant get into the story. Still nice as a game in my collection, but will i ever play more than an hour, probley not.