Blizzard Bans StarCraft 2 players for using singleplayer cheats!

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2010/10/11/blizzard-bans-singleplayer-cheaters/1

To sum it up, Blizzard is banning people who use cheats/trainers in the singleplayer portion of the game. One player got a 14 day band for using a trainer against an AI only offline mp match. Blizzard claims that this is within the legal bounds of the EULA. I can't link to the original article due to GS, but go to the BT link and then get the original from there.

Probably because you can abuse it for Achievment Points.

If they can detect trainers and third party cheats, they should just disable the achievement feature instead of banning/suspending the user. Obtaining achievement unfairly seems to be the main concern anyway.

Probably because you can abuse it for Achievment Points.

Tuzolord

Big Brother is watching..

And Activision approves.

If they can detect trainers and third party cheats, they should just disable the achievement feature instead of banning/suspending the user. Obtaining achievement unfairly seems to be the main concern anyway.

flipin_jackass

Trainers and third party cheats are against the EULA afaik.

Why would you care about cheats in SP anyway? The campaign is only challenging on Brutal, and legit cheats are available for all to see and use.

(lol @ cinematics menu, istant win, 0 cost units and 5k gas cheats, brilliant work Blizzard :lol: )

first, it is not a ban...it is a suspension

second, you signed the EULA, and you are getting an unfair advantage over other players.

I think it is justifiable

first, it is not a ban...it is a suspension

second, you signed the EULA, and you are getting an unfair advantage over other players.

I think it is justifiable

mrbojangles25

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first, it is not a ban...it is a suspension

second, you signed the EULA, and you are getting an unfair advantage over other players.

I think it is justifiable

lawlessx

achievements are anonline aspect...they are tracked via your account and stuff, it is part of the multiplayer area of the game.

I agree the ideal thing to do would be to disable the achievements or whatever, but I do not really blame Bliz for doing this

I remember when there was talk about this on the SC2 forum. Im happy that they do ban people that cheat and abuse. If it was just for "offline" mode with no achivments or anything then sure. But its not.

using singleplayer cheats, the game will lose its Fairness

They are cheating by playing in offline mode and then completing the achivments there. Then when they connect again they will get the achivments for their multiplayer account.

None would care if they did it with no gain or anything. But they are knowingly using it to gain achivments in this case. Like i said i cant feel sorry for them:(

Trainers and third party cheats are against the EULA afaik.

Why would you care about cheats in SP anyway? The campaign is only challenging on Brutal, and legit cheats are available for all to see and use.

(lol @ cinematics menu, istant win, 0 cost units and 5k gas cheats, brilliant work Blizzard :lol: )

N30F3N1X

And? They violated the EULA? Ban.

What I fail to understand is how anyone can be interested in something like achievements. Most of them demand for the gamer to play in a very dumb ways in order to unlock stupid records. You can also see in multiplayer games how sometimes the achievements hurt the teamwork when a player is focused into unlock some achievements/belts/medals instead of helping the team to win the match. Absurd.

If they can detect trainers and third party cheats, they should just disable the achievement feature instead of banning/suspending the user. Obtaining achievement unfairly seems to be the main concern anyway.

flipin_jackass

every little thing she does

make it so

it is a good day to die

............. lol I can't believe I remember those from Warcraft 2. Safe to say there are no single player cheats of this nature in Starcraft 2?

I should care about people who use cheats why?

every little thing she does

make it so

it is a good day to die

............. lol I can't believe I remember those from Warcraft 2. Safe to say there are no single player cheats of this nature in Starcraft 2?

whitey_rolls

THIRD PARTY cheats are not allowed.

SC2 "natively" has its own cheat codes.

Real men drill deep, C method feedback, eye of sauron, more dots more dots :lol:

I can't figure out which is more ridiculous, banning people for cheating in a single-player game or defending said bans. Oh no! Little Jimmy cheated to get his meaningless and stupid little achievements! The end is nigh!

So silly...

The whole thing is just sad.

Sad that someone would want to cheat themselves on (what I hear to be) such a great game.

Sad that a company would ban/suspend them for cheating on the multiplayer offline, AI skirmish.

Sad that both would do it over some MEANINGLESS game achievement!

I can't help but shake my head at what grows upon this rock.

I think its going to far when you can get in trouble for using cheats in a SP game that you paid for. ***** blizzard

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If they can detect trainers and third party cheats, they should just disable the achievement feature instead of banning/suspending the user. Obtaining achievement unfairly seems to be the main concern anyway.

Daytona_178

I should care about people who use cheats why?

rzepak

Why would you care about cheats in SP anyway? The campaign is only challenging on Brutal, and legit cheats are available for all to see and use.

N30F3N1X

...who are you to say how people should have their fun? Sure you and I and the majority probably don't have interest in trainers, but it seems a bit farfetched to suspend someone from playing just because they are modding the single player portion of the game, which has no quantitive effect on your rank class or match-up choices.

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

Why would you care about cheats in SP anyway? The campaign is only challenging on Brutal, and legit cheats are available for all to see and use.

True_Sounds

...who are you to say how people should have their fun? Sure you and I and the majority probably don't have interest in trainers, but it seems a bit farfetched to suspend someone from playing just because they are modding the single player portion of the game, which has no quantitive effect on your rank class or match-up choices.

That is just the thing... There are Blizzard made cheats... You simply wont get any achivments when you do this. They did cheat with a trainer / hack to get around the "achivment require online" part.

The fact that people defend cheaters make me go "O.O". Oh and if you just wish to try silly things there something known as the galaxy editor (map editor) where you can do about anything you want.

This makes me even happier I have stopped supporting Blizzard in the past 6 months altogether. I won't buy anymore of their games and I won't give them another dollar. Activision is destroying them and I won't be a part of it. Banning/Suspending people for cheating in single player is stupid. They are going way to far

This makes me even happier I have stopped supporting Blizzard in the past 6 months altogether. I won't buy anymore of their games and I won't give them another dollar. Activision is destroying them and I won't be a part of it. Banning/Suspending people for cheating in single player is stupid. They are going way to far

testfactor888

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This makes me even happier I have stopped supporting Blizzard in the past 6 months altogether. I won't buy anymore of their games and I won't give them another dollar. Activision is destroying them and I won't be a part of it. Banning/Suspending people for cheating in single player is stupid. They are going way to far

KalDurenik

I can't figure out which is more ridiculous, banning people for cheating in a single-player game or defending said bans. Oh no! Little Jimmy cheated to get his meaningless and stupid little achievements! The end is nigh!

So silly...

-wildflower-

Blizzard Terms of Use

2. Additional License Limitations.

2.6 use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, "mines", or otherwise collects information from or through any Game or the Service, including without limitation any software that reads areas of RAM used by any Game or the Service to store information about a character or a Game environment; provided, however, that Blizzard may, at its sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third party user interfaces;

2.7 modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of any Game or the Service in any way not expressly authorized by Blizzard;

Blizzard ToU

I thought reading was taught to people way before their age could hit the second digit. Seeing how so many people cannot read, I guess I was terribly wrong.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

I can't figure out which is more ridiculous, banning people for cheating in a single-player game or defending said bans. Oh no! Little Jimmy cheated to get his meaningless and stupid little achievements! The end is nigh!

So silly...

N30F3N1X

Blizzard Terms of Use

2. Additional License Limitations.

2.6 use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, "mines", or otherwise collects information from or through any Game or the Service, including without limitation any software that reads areas of RAM used by any Game or the Service to store information about a character or a Game environment; provided, however, that Blizzard may, at its sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third party user interfaces;

2.7 modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of any Game or the Service in any way not expressly authorized by Blizzard;

Blizzard ToU

I thought reading was taught to people way before their age could hit the second digit. Seeing how so many people cannot read, I guess I was terribly wrong.

I think people are complaining because in their opinion that particular rule is dumb. It has nothing to do with the ability to read, everyone is typing here so no need to make nonsensical 'points'. [typing=ability to read, if you didn't catch my drift]

This makes me even happier I have stopped supporting Blizzard in the past 6 months altogether. I won't buy anymore of their games and I won't give them another dollar. Activision is destroying them and I won't be a part of it. Banning/Suspending people for cheating in single player is stupid. They are going way to far

Disable the achievements, but banning for something in SP is excessive

So they're using trainers in SP and then getting achieverments....so what? It's obvious that the company (Blizzard) reserves the right to disable your product at any time for whatever reason, but this is excessive. I don't support either side, as both are pathetic at the moment.

Using third party hacks (Yes I called them hacks because that is what they are, cheat is not the term to be used) is against the EULA and Blizzard has all the right to ban or suspend a user for using hacks regardless if it was during the singleplayer portion or not. Why you ask? Because the Singleplayer portion affects the online portion of the game thus giving these hackers an advantage (Whether it be with Achievements or whatever) over other players. Suspensions and bans are rightly handed out in such cases.Im_single

This has piqued my interest. Exactly what kind of tangible advantage do achievements give? I've never played the game and probably never will (not a fan of RTS) but, if there are some kind of real advantages to be gained in multi-player from these cheats, then I retract my earlier statement and the bans, I suppose, are fair.

BUT, if the achievements are just some silly chest-beating measuring stick (like they are in pretty much every other game) and they have no real impact on the outcome of a multi-player match then I stand by my original statement that this is a bush-league move on Blizzard's part.

So, do the achiements give better units or something or are they just window dressing?