blizzard "as long as people play it we gonna keep updading"

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

HFkami

The only company? Bit of an overstatement there.

I was a fan of Blizzard, until they bought up realid on the forums which caused an uproar with a lot of players. Then they pulled out of it and Mike M. (CEO) wrote a letter stating they "valued customers security" what a ton of **** if they value customer security, why even try go ahead with it?

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

HFkami

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Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

scoobiesnackarf

you wrong

they are only 7 years but wc3 is 8 years and sc is 14 years old. You see valve only supports their games 7 years but as i mentioned blizz supports over 8 years. Big difference there.

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Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

HFkami

you wrong

they are only 7 years but wc3 is 8 years and sc is 14 years old. You see valve only supports their games 7 years but as i mentioned blizz supports over 8 years. Big difference there.

He isn't wrong, Valve is still supporting some games for over 7 years so it isn't like they hit 7 years and stop support, they continue that is just how much they have clocked in right now. And they have 9 years of support for CS1.6, it's last patch was 2009. Blizzard and Valve both have very good support but Valve does do more, 144 achievements in CSS, almost 300 TF2 achievements (post launch ones I mean), new weapons for every character type in TF2 and a lot more. Not putting down Blizzard, I love them and their RTS games but I am saying Valve does do more. In this case you are wrong, he IS right. Valve continues over 7 years and Blizzard continues over 8 years, Valve has just done a lot more in those years.

Still I really don't want this to sound like a VALVE IS BETTAH THAn BLIzzARD, because that isn't the point of this at all, and as I said I play both of they're games quite a bit.

I think we can conclude that both VALVe and Blizzard are great companies that keeps updating their games.

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

HFkami

Valve and Blizzard are very similar if you think about it.

Both support their games a lot of time after release.

Both make great PC games.

And both have the habbit of making us wait for some thing a **** load of time :D

Valve and Blizzard are the two groups that continue the support for their games for years. While most other devs and so on dont even make 2 patches :(

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

HFkami

Uhhh... Wrong.

Valve has been updating every one of their games for the last decade+

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

HFkami

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[QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"] Wrong. Valve continues to update all of their games some of which are going on 7 years. BrickMcStick

you wrong

they are only 7 years but wc3 is 8 years and sc is 14 years old. You see valve only supports their games 7 years but as i mentioned blizz supports over 8 years. Big difference there.

He isn't wrong, Valve is still supporting some games for over 7 years so it isn't like they hit 7 years and stop support, they continue that is just how much they have clocked in right now. And they have 9 years of support for CS1.6, it's last patch was 2009. Blizzard and Valve both have very good support but Valve does do more, 144 achievements in CSS, almost 300 TF2 achievements (post launch ones I mean), new weapons for every character type in TF2 and a lot more. Not putting down Blizzard, I love them and their RTS games but I am saying Valve does do more. In this case you are wrong, he IS right. Valve continues over 7 years and Blizzard continues over 8 years, Valve has just done a lot more in those years.

Still I really don't want this to sound like a VALVE IS BETTAH THAn BLIzzARD, because that isn't the point of this at all, and as I said I play both of they're games quite a bit.

counterstrike isnt made from valve. Also valve makes shooters for the most part. There werent something important like balance patches just pointless updates for steam, and bug fixes. Plus these games are shooters, the players have to host their own servers. Every Blizzard game has still access to bnettoday, even diablo1 and warcraft 2. And valve doesnt support their game as esport titles. Blizzard hosts tournaments for starcraft, warcraft 3 and wow with pricemoney of at least 10.000$ each in blizzcon every year.

[QUOTE="HFkami"]

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

Resistance_Kid

Uhhh... Wrong.

Valve has been updating every one of their games for the last decade+

no those are only steam updates

Valve and Blizzard are very similar if you think about it.

Both support their games a lot of time after release.

Both make great PC games.

And both have the habbit of making us wait for some thing a **** load of time :D

coreybg

Well than we should remember those three things as the outline of a good dev.

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no those are only steam updates

HFkami

Trying to be smart? What happened to all those updates Steam gave CS 1.6? The major upgrade in TF2 and CSS? All the care they put into maintaining their servers? Don't try to be smart, and do some research before making wild satements like this.

counterstrike isnt made from valve. Also valve makes shooters for the most part. There werent something important like balance patches just pointless updates for steam, and bug fixes. Plus these games are shooters, the players have to host their own servers. Every Blizzard game has still access to bnettoday, even diablo1 and warcraft 2. And valve doesnt support their game as esport titles. Blizzard hosts tournaments for starcraft, warcraft 3 and wow with pricemoney of at least 10.000$ each in blizzcon every year.

[QUOTE="Resistance_Kid"]

[QUOTE="HFkami"]

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

HFkami

Uhhh... Wrong.

Valve has been updating every one of their games for the last decade+

no those are only steam updates

Don't try to be smart, Steam has upgraded each of their games at least once in the past two years. I would know, I actually play them.

I think we can conclude that both VALVe and Blizzard are great companies that keeps updating their games.

ventnor

[QUOTE="HFkami"]

[QUOTE="Resistance_Kid"]

Trying to be smart? What happened to all those updates Steam gave CS 1.6? The major upgrade in TF2 and CSS? All the care they put into maintaining their servers? Don't try to be smart, and do some research before making wild satements like this.

Resistance_Kid

counterstrike isnt made from valve. Also valve makes shooters for the most part. There werent something important like balance patches just pointless updates for steam, and bug fixes. Plus these games are shooters, the players have to host their own servers. Every Blizzard game has still access to bnettoday, even diablo1 and warcraft 2. And valve doesnt support their game as esport titles. Blizzard hosts tournaments for starcraft, warcraft 3 and wow with pricemoney of at least 10.000$ each in blizzcon every year.

Hurrdurr, you make statements like these in every thread I've seen you in. please, try to know what you're talking about before posting. Counter Strike was a mod at first, and it wasn't made by Valve.

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[QUOTE="HFkami"]

counterstrike isnt made from valve. Also valve makes shooters for the most part. There werent something important like balance patches just pointless updates for steam, and bug fixes. Plus these games are shooters, the players have to host their own servers. Every Blizzard game has still access to bnettoday, even diablo1 and warcraft 2. And valve doesnt support their game as esport titles. Blizzard hosts tournaments for starcraft, warcraft 3 and wow with pricemoney of at least 10.000$ each in blizzcon every year.

Vfanek

Hurrdurr, you make statements like these in every thread I've seen you in. please, try to know what you're talking about before posting. Counter Strike was a mod at first, and it wasn't made by Valve.

It is now ;)

[QUOTE="Resistance_Kid"]

[QUOTE="HFkami"]

counterstrike isnt made from valve. Also valve makes shooters for the most part. There werent something important like balance patches just pointless updates for steam, and bug fixes. Plus these games are shooters, the players have to host their own servers. Every Blizzard game has still access to bnettoday, even diablo1 and warcraft 2. And valve doesnt support their game as esport titles. Blizzard hosts tournaments for starcraft, warcraft 3 and wow with pricemoney of at least 10.000$ each in blizzcon every year.

Vfanek

Hurrdurr, you make statements like these in every thread I've seen you in. please, try to know what you're talking about before posting. Counter Strike was a mod at first, and it wasn't made by Valve.

[QUOTE="Resistance_Kid"]

[QUOTE="HFkami"]

counterstrike isnt made from valve. Also valve makes shooters for the most part. There werent something important like balance patches just pointless updates for steam, and bug fixes. Plus these games are shooters, the players have to host their own servers. Every Blizzard game has still access to bnettoday, even diablo1 and warcraft 2. And valve doesnt support their game as esport titles. Blizzard hosts tournaments for starcraft, warcraft 3 and wow with pricemoney of at least 10.000$ each in blizzcon every year.

Vfanek

Hurrdurr, you make statements like these in every thread I've seen you in. please, try to know what you're talking about before posting. Counter Strike was a mod at first, and it wasn't made by Valve.

Here and here.

I'm done :)

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[QUOTE="Resistance_Kid"]Valve made Counter-Strike, so I don't know what you are talking about. Seriously stop before you embarrass yourself.

Resistance_Kid

Hurrdurr, you make statements like these in every thread I've seen you in. please, try to know what you're talking about before posting. Counter Strike was a mod at first, and it wasn't made by Valve.

Here and here.

I'm done :)

[QUOTE="Resistance_Kid"]

[QUOTE="Vfanek"]

Hurrdurr, you make statements like these in every thread I've seen you in. please, try to know what you're talking about before posting. Counter Strike was a mod at first, and it wasn't made by Valve.

DanielDust

Here and here.

I'm done :)

Omg this is getting annoying. Both websites said that the game was a HL mod, later developed by Valve into a proper game.

Maybe you should be the one reading properly.

I don't need to because I know how CS was created. Sure Valve bought Gooseman, but buying a concept and offering official support for it is not the same as "making something". It's like a kid that downloads an essay for school, changing a few words to fit the style he'd want to use, it requires almost no thinking and it gets the job done in minutes, why should he spend hours if not days or weeks to make it.

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

HFkami

Sony updates Everquest 1 & II but Bioware has done a great job on DAO new content and updates

I don't need to because I know how CS was created. Sure Valve bought Gooseman, but buying a concept and offering official support for it is not the same as "making something". It's like a kid that downloads an essay for school, changing a few words to fit the style he'd want to use, it requires almost no thinking and it gets the job done in minutes, why should he spend hours if not days or weeks to make it.

DanielDust

Ok, when you put it like that, I would agree, but Valve is still considered to be the developer :D

Is DAO even a year old? That is not "alot" of updates for along time.

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I don't need to because I know how CS was created. Sure Valve bought Gooseman, but buying a concept and offering official support for it is not the same as "making something". It's like a kid that downloads an essay for school, changing a few words to fit the style he'd want to use, it requires almost no thinking and it gets the job done in minutes, why should he spend hours if not days or weeks to make it.

Resistance_Kid

Ok, when you put it like that, I would agree, but Valve is still considered to be the developer :D

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

I don't need to because I know how CS was created. Sure Valve bought Gooseman, but buying a concept and offering official support for it is not the same as "making something". It's like a kid that downloads an essay for school, changing a few words to fit the style he'd want to use, it requires almost no thinking and it gets the job done in minutes, why should he spend hours if not days or weeks to make it.

Resistance_Kid

Ok, when you put it like that, I would agree, but Valve is still considered to be the developer :D

Nice thread guys.

I think we can conclude that both VALVe and Blizzard are great companies that keeps updating their games.

ventnor

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[QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"] Wrong. Valve continues to update all of their games some of which are going on 7 years. BrickMcStick

you wrong

they are only 7 years but wc3 is 8 years and sc is 14 years old. You see valve only supports their games 7 years but as i mentioned blizz supports over 8 years. Big difference there.

He isn't wrong, Valve is still supporting some games for over 7 years so it isn't like they hit 7 years and stop support, they continue that is just how much they have clocked in right now. And they have 9 years of support for CS1.6, it's last patch was 2009. Blizzard and Valve both have very good support but Valve does do more, 144 achievements in CSS, almost 300 TF2 achievements (post launch ones I mean), new weapons for every character type in TF2 and a lot more. Not putting down Blizzard, I love them and their RTS games but I am saying Valve does do more. In this case you are wrong, he IS right. Valve continues over 7 years and Blizzard continues over 8 years, Valve has just done a lot more in those years.

Still I really don't want this to sound like a VALVE IS BETTAH THAn BLIzzARD, because that isn't the point of this at all, and as I said I play both of they're games quite a bit.

Well technically giving away a digital game you as a software vendor/distributor aleady own isn't the same as giving away $500,000...in reality the only thing it "cost" them is whatever bandwidth people used to download it and *maybe* some lost sales from people who might have otherwise purchased the game (probably a small number out of those 12,000 people).

With that said, yeah it was a very stand up thing for Valve to do, and the Alien Swarm gift from them is nothing short of awesome. Valve is a great company!

Valve and Blizzard are very similar if you think about it.

Both support their games a lot of time after release.

Both make great PC games.

And both have the habbit of making us wait for some thing a **** load of time :D

coreybg

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[QUOTE="HFkami"]

you wrong

they are only 7 years but wc3 is 8 years and sc is 14 years old. You see valve only supports their games 7 years but as i mentioned blizz supports over 8 years. Big difference there.

HFkami

He isn't wrong, Valve is still supporting some games for over 7 years so it isn't like they hit 7 years and stop support, they continue that is just how much they have clocked in right now. And they have 9 years of support for CS1.6, it's last patch was 2009. Blizzard and Valve both have very good support but Valve does do more, 144 achievements in CSS, almost 300 TF2 achievements (post launch ones I mean), new weapons for every character type in TF2 and a lot more. Not putting down Blizzard, I love them and their RTS games but I am saying Valve does do more. In this case you are wrong, he IS right. Valve continues over 7 years and Blizzard continues over 8 years, Valve has just done a lot more in those years.

Still I really don't want this to sound like a VALVE IS BETTAH THAn BLIzzARD, because that isn't the point of this at all, and as I said I play both of they're games quite a bit.

counterstrike isnt made from valve. Also valve makes shooters for the most part. There werent something important like balance patches just pointless updates for steam, and bug fixes. Plus these games are shooters, the players have to host their own servers. Every Blizzard game has still access to bnettoday, even diablo1 and warcraft 2. And valve doesnt support their game as esport titles. Blizzard hosts tournaments for starcraft, warcraft 3 and wow with pricemoney of at least 10.000$ each in blizzcon every year.

You are horribly misguided, look at Team Fortress 2. That has recieved more free content, like weapons, maps, achievements and BALANCE PATCHES than any other game I have ever played in my life and they have a second round of weapons planned for 5 of the character types, that is fact. What you said isn't true, that is fact. Umm people can still play old Valve games online too, fact. It is true that Valve doesn't hold big tournament for their games but CS games are some of the most competitive PC games (possibly the most) ever created and they have constant tournament.

Please stop trying to argue this, you are wrong. You don't know enough about the topic and are just spitting out info like you know what you are talking about, what I have said here is based on fact. Sorry but you don't have a clue about all Valve has done for their games, especially TF2 which has gotten more love from Valve than all Blizzard games combined in terms of free content.

EDIT: Why can you not accept that there are companies that are as supportive, arguably more, than Blizzard? I'm not insulting them I am just saying they aren't the only people that support stuff.

VALVE NEVER EVER UPDATED TF2 FOR THE 360

they were like oh yeah updates for that

LIERS

VALVE NEVER EVER UPDATED TF2 FOR THE 360

they were like oh yeah updates for that

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Linkbest23

This is a PC forum so cares about consoles? Oh, and it's Liars....

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

HFkami

[QUOTE="HFkami"]

[QUOTE="BrickMcStick"]

He isn't wrong, Valve is still supporting some games for over 7 years so it isn't like they hit 7 years and stop support, they continue that is just how much they have clocked in right now. And they have 9 years of support for CS1.6, it's last patch was 2009. Blizzard and Valve both have very good support but Valve does do more, 144 achievements in CSS, almost 300 TF2 achievements (post launch ones I mean), new weapons for every character type in TF2 and a lot more. Not putting down Blizzard, I love them and their RTS games but I am saying Valve does do more. In this case you are wrong, he IS right. Valve continues over 7 years and Blizzard continues over 8 years, Valve has just done a lot more in those years.

Still I really don't want this to sound like a VALVE IS BETTAH THAn BLIzzARD, because that isn't the point of this at all, and as I said I play both of they're games quite a bit.

BrickMcStick

counterstrike isnt made from valve. Also valve makes shooters for the most part. There werent something important like balance patches just pointless updates for steam, and bug fixes. Plus these games are shooters, the players have to host their own servers. Every Blizzard game has still access to bnettoday, even diablo1 and warcraft 2. And valve doesnt support their game as esport titles. Blizzard hosts tournaments for starcraft, warcraft 3 and wow with pricemoney of at least 10.000$ each in blizzcon every year.

You are horribly misguided, look at Team Fortress 2. That has recieved more free content, like weapons, maps, achievements and BALANCE PATCHES than any other game I have ever played in my life and they have a second round of weapons planned for 5 of the character types, that is fact. What you said isn't true, that is fact. Umm people can still play old Valve games online too, fact. It is true that Valve doesn't hold big tournament for their games but CS games are some of the most competitive PC games (possibly the most) ever created and they have constant tournament.

Please stop trying to argue this, you are wrong. You don't know enough about the topic and are just spitting out info like you know what you are talking about, what I have said here is based on fact. Sorry but you don't have a clue about all Valve has done for their games, especially TF2 which has gotten more love from Valve than all Blizzard games combined in terms of free content.

EDIT: Why can you not accept that there are companies that are as supportive, arguably more, than Blizzard? I'm not insulting them I am just saying they aren't the only people that support stuff.

no youre wrong those are mods period. And you cant compare tf with good rts classics like wc3 or sc. These are serious games which bring to some people even money and are played in big tournaments, tf isnt even played in wcg

VALVE NEVER EVER UPDATED TF2 FOR THE 360

they were like oh yeah updates for that

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Linkbest23

If you are going to play like that blizzard never updated Starcraft 64

How about blizzard updating the game for new hardware so i dont get 20fps in dalaran with phenom II quad, 6gb of ram and a 4870 1gb grx card? The shadows enabled drain fps like crazy.

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VALVE NEVER EVER UPDATED TF2 FOR THE 360

they were like oh yeah updates for that

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KeithFerns

If you are going to play like that blizzard never updated Starcraft 64