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#1 RedxSniper
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Hey alright i'm new to the whole blue ray topic and i wanted to ask some questions.

One: What's betterhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129037that ( a computer blue ray drive ) or a ps3 slim ( which has been said to be better then regular blue rays).

Two: Say i where to get a plasma/lcd tv screen that would be hanged up on the wall, how would i plug in for example the ps3, since the tv would have to stand,

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#2 dougpinsak
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For the first question...I can't tell you for sure but I would say the PS3. My understanding is that the PS3 is considered one of the better bluray players available without spending a ton of money. Plus if you buy a bluray drive you don't have a PS3. A bluray player and a PS3 is better than just a bluray player

I'm not sure I totally understand your second question...I'm assuming your concern is with the wires hanging down. If that is your question there's a few options. 1, just let the wires hang...it looks tacky but won't give you any problems.2 Drill a hole in the wall near your ps3, run the cable into the wall and then drill another hole near the TV where thecable can come thru.3 Just get a stand for the TV instead of mounting it on the wall and hook it up like usual.

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#3 cowgriller
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i'll love to answer your questions for you.

first off, it's actually spelled blu-ray.

that aside, a blu-ray drive for the pc can be a bit tricky to get proper video quality out of. it's dependant on not only the video card that you use, but also the blu-ray playback software. then you have to keep in mind that the pc uses a different color spectrum than typical blu-ray players. computers use the RGB spectrum with an "expanded" black level of 0 IRE. most blu-ray, dvd, and tv shows are using what is called a "limited" IRE of 7.5 and use the CMYK color spectrum. basically, the black level of a pc and video game console is greater than that of a dvd player so the image will look darker. if you choose the wrong setting, the entire image you see will either be too dark or too light. since it's also on a pc, you'll have to keep in mind that you need to change the IRE and gamma level settings of ONLY the video, not for the rest of the pc. you'll also need to calibrate the display so that the color, contrast and brightness of the display doesn't make the computer image look messed up while simultaneously making sure that the video quality is also being displayed in the way that it was created and meant to be seen.

as for the ps3, the ps3 is considered one of the best blu-ray players on the market. it has very good video quality for blu-ray movies (not so much for dvd upconversion however) and can bitstream the audio to an external audio/video receiver for processing. the upcoming ps3 slim has the ability to bitstream HD audio tracks like Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. to explain, bitstreaming means that the audio information, which is in the form of 1's and 0's, binary numbers, is sent out of the player as is. that means the audio has not been processed and would allow the AVR to process the audio. this usually leads to better results because the audio decoding chips in AVR's are higher quality than the processors found in most blu-ray and dvd players, including the ps3. HD audio bitstreaming can only be done using an HDMI cable simply because the HDMI cable is the only cable on the market (aside from professional cables found in studios and theaters) that has enough bandwidth to carry the information. bandwidth, you could think of as a highway. the larger the bandwidth/highway, the more information/cars can go through simultaneously without any slowdown or overcrowding.

now as for the TV, you could hookup the PC or ps3 to the tv using just one HDMI cable. your pc may require a DVI to HDMI adapter if your video card doesn't have an HDMI slot. here's a pic of a video card with an HDMI jack. it's the one on the top.

in my opinion, if you don't want to deal with all of the calibrations necessary for the pc, get a ps3. you'll need to do some calibration on the tv and the ps3 however, but not nearly as much as for the pc. also, a standalone blu-ray player is an option. may i suggest the Panasonic BD-60?

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if you're going to hang the tv on the wall, you have 3 options for connecting the player.

1) use a flat hdmi cable and plug it into the side hdmi jack (if the tv has it, other wise look for an hdmi cable that has one connector at a 90 degree angle.)

2) use a wall mount that can swivel outwards or can hold the tv out further away from the wall.

3) you have to cut holes in the wall and run the wires inside the wall. this is the best option if you don't want to see wires hanging from the tv.

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I would ge with the PS3 becasue of the great track record with blue-ray plus you get a game console. media player, web browser, ability to run linux, plays MP3 nad avi and Mp4.

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#5 LoserMike
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The problem with having a PC Blu-Ray drive is that you have to hook up to your TV. So unless you like watcing movies on your computer or your computer is next to your TV, I would suggest getting a Stand-alone Blu-Ray player or a PS3.

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#6 smc91352
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General Rule:

Unless you're gonna get a Blu-Ray burner, don't get Blu-Ray for your computer; and also don't buy a Blu-ray player unless its a PS3...LOL


If you're happy gaming on PC and wanna connect your PC to your TV get the Burner; if not get the PS3.

I'd tell you to get the Burner, but thats cause I can game better on PC than PS3.

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#7 RedxSniper
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Alright thanks for all the help so far. I already game on the pc, and if i want to get a ps3, I would probably only buy a couple games, maybe only two. So now the question is, how far does the computer have to be from the tv. But most likely i'm going to resort to buying a ps3.
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#8 RedxSniper
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I'm happy gaming on the computer, and hope to gladly continue. If i were to get a ps3, i wouldn't play games on it. I don't really see any games that interest me other then the Madden Series. So the question now is, which blu-ray burner for the computer, and How do i hook up my PC to my TV. And can you play games or do something on your computer, while watching a movie on a tv, which is hooked up to your computer for the blu-ray?
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#9 markop2003
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The PS3 is the best value player there is, there are better players but unless you're really a movie buff then thhere's no point getting ones... and if you are i'ld recommend to stop asking advice here and go to a rpoper AV/HT board. The computer can be pretty much any distance you like from the PC, digital cables can run quite some distance before they come up with errors, if nessacery Meridian do HDMI boosters so you can effectivly have unlimited cable range.
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#10 markop2003
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I'm happy gaming on the computer, and hope to gladly continue. If i were to get a ps3, i wouldn't play games on it. I don't really see any games that interest me other then the Madden Series. So the question now is, which blu-ray burner for the computer, and How do i hook up my PC to my TV. And can you play games or do something on your computer, while watching a movie on a tv, which is hooked up to your computer for the blu-ray?RedxSniper
1. I'ld be tempted to go with a pioneer due to their roots in good blu-ray and DVD movie players

2. Via HDMI out the back of any modern graphics cardor out of one of those new HTPC Xonar sound cards

3. Yes if you set it up as dual monitors though most rigs will struggle with this.

If you're serious about your movies then invest in a HTPC, it don't have to be anything special, if you've been building PCs or PC gaming for a while you probably have most of the parts sitting around anyway. Make it a dedicated media PC that's quiet, cool and low power consumption (if you use it as a PVR it's definitely an advantage). Then if things move more towards netflix and DD you've already gort a system set up that can manage all that without bringing your gaming rig to it's knees.

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#11 RedxSniper
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Alright thanks. It seems as tho the ps3 is my best option because one i don't have a sound card, and two i was hoping i could watch a movie + do w.e im doing withouthaving to get a second screen. Not serious to the point where i need a HTPC, i'm kind of building a sort of man cave i guess so :) And I haven't been building computers for that long, this is my first. What is the Netflix and DD everyone's been talking about. Is it like streaming directly to ur blu-ray or what? Cyz if so, my internet isn't that good. lol.
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#12 markop2003
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Netflix and digital distrobution = downloading and streaming from the internet If you want a real mancave you're gonna have to upgrade your internet, that's quite possibly the most cost effective addition you can make to the room.
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#13 RedxSniper
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I can't upgrade the internet. My dad made a contract where we have to wait a year or something like that. What's messed up is that, when we were testing it out, it was incredibly insane, my brother could be running 29 youtube pages, and i could play css with no lag. And now if he has one youtube, or even 5-6 regular pages, my ping flies up. I think they switched on us or something.
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#14 X360PS3AMD05
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Ps3 Slim easily. I tried streaming Netflix on my Ps3 and was unsuccessful, but you can buy a Roku box from them for $100 and hook it up to your TV and internet to steam movies, even HD movies so i hear. What company is that? ^ Comcrap? Try resetting the modem and see if it does anything :? I remember we had DSL and couldn't get out of it for some time without paying some outrageous fee. We got 300kbps speeds because we lived too far from the "central office" and nothing could be done, Time warner cable came and "saved us" :roll: We're now getting 1500Kbps or so, with digital phone for about the same price we paid for phone and DSL from At&t and DSLExtreme. You can try to use DR. TCP and see if anything improves, it's over at dslreports.com they have forums and a bunch of info on switching ISPs. As someone said, HTPC might be the way to go, fast computer parts are pretty cheap now days.
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#15 RedxSniper
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My computer is insanely fast. Q9400 + Hd4890. And i have verizon, it's soooo horrible.. i think im like 150kbps.... Streaming Netflix would be nice.... How much does it cost?
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#16 X360PS3AMD05
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Probably DSL, call them and ask them if you have FIOS available in your area, though it will probably cost much more. Run a speedted at dslreports.com and see how far you are from your central office. If it's around 10,000ft. + then you may want to go to cable.