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Its sad that ppl think moving good is cheating. If your jumping around and they cant hit you, its obviously working, so instead of saying nice dodging they say your being cheap.
Best way to deal with them is tell them you will stand still next time so they can kill you.
Well i had a similar situation today where someone accused me of wallhacking/exploiting a glitch in the game all because i killed them when they were crouched behind a wall. However what they failed to understand was part of them was exposed around the walls corner and i was equiped with a Barret .50cal sniper rifle. I aimed a little further along the wall to where i figured the main part of his body was and fired, +10XP to me aswell as the insults and whining of this player.
As for your bunny hopping i don't get why you were booted from the server, nothing wrong with bunny hopping even if it exploits a glitch in a game. Hardly a players fault exploiting something the Devs should of fixed in patches or pre-release testing.
As much as I hate it, its the game programmers fault for including something that can be exploited. Good job exploiting a balance flaw in the game, kudos to you. I wish I could bunny-hop more often in certain games, it would probably end up saving my life.
This is one of the reasons I love Day of Defeat/Source, you cannot jump more than once or twice before your stamina runs out and you cannot jump anymore. Makes it all down to shooting skill, reaction time, cover usage and team strategy.
foxhound_fox
Developers allow bunny-hopping because they believe it should exist. It's not some secret or anything. If you can bunny-hop in the game, the developers intended it.
Well hitting space bar is not bunny hopping... Bunny hopping was exploiting crap hit boxs/hit recognition where hopping would some how magically stop you from getting hit even when the guy is aiming direclty at you.. That being said if its not exploiting such things, I don't see a problem with it..sSubZerOoYah, thanks i never knew what bunnyhopping was. I just know i used spacebar a bunch of times in BF2142 and nobody ever complained. I have to say it's pretty fun, sometimes you can be in a showdown for like 30 seconds and not hit each other :lol: It's funny and awesome if you win or knife someone in the end.
Well hitting space bar is not bunny hopping... Bunny hopping was exploiting crap hit boxs/hit recognition where hopping would some how magically stop you from getting hit even when the guy is aiming direclty at you.. That being said if its not exploiting such things, I don't see a problem with it..sSubZerOo
but it kinda worked in battlefield 2 in cod4 on the otherhand jumping is pointless, i always get the "bunnies" with the first burst
Well its a flaw in many FPS games. If the game is aiming towards realism the jumping should be part of the sprint. Cause nobody is able to jump up and down over and over with roughly 50lbs of gear on, unless their are on friggen steroids. But if the server you went onto has to rules set as no bunny hopping then just abide by the rules eh? It seems fustrating and all but just gonna have to deal with it . :/FlakGunRhodes
I think this is the best idea, if it'snot allowed then make it so you can only jump so often in a time period. Maybe even add it as a perk or something. I just can't see booting someone for doing what the game allows.
For instance "We've noticed that you've had too many head shots and that is not allowed so yer gettin the boot." :|
Im glad they kick bunny hopers i want to play a game with adult ppl not some kid jumping around ruining it for everybody
Like somebody said go to another server but i love that they enforce that rule on Hardcore servers...
Btw i can kill a bunny jumper without any problem too, but thats not the point, the point is only seeing a dude jumping around like that annoys me... it is something thats not supposed to happen in a hardcore server
[QUOTE="FlakGunRhodes"]Well its a flaw in many FPS games. If the game is aiming towards realism the jumping should be part of the sprint. Cause nobody is able to jump up and down over and over with roughly 50lbs of gear on, unless their are on friggen steroids. But if the server you went onto has to rules set as no bunny hopping then just abide by the rules eh? It seems fustrating and all but just gonna have to deal with it . :/Elfin
I think this is the best idea, if it'snot allowed then make it so you can only jump so often in a time period. Maybe even add it as a perk or something. I just can't see booting someone for doing what the game allows.
For instance "We've noticed that you've had too many head shots and that is not allowed so yer gettin the boot." :|
That doesnt make any SENSE, shooting is something necesary jumping like an idiot 20 times isnt... it is that simple...
U guys can SAY ANYTHING U WANT but like diving in BF2 IT IS CHEAP... it is a CHEAP TACTIC... and because the game allows it doesnt make it any good... so stop being so cheap and play like a men... i dont have to use all those BS tactics im still im always on the top of the scoreboard
I gotta say bunnyhoppers annoy the hell out of me in the same way rocket launchers annoy the hell out of me. It is the fault (or choice) of the developers to give you the ability to jump endlessly, but it doesn't make the personwho exploits it any less of a sissy. It's just like when people spam grenades and rockets -sure, it's a valid option in the gameso it's not technically cheating, but it's a tactic for players with too little skill to rack up points in aless explosive manner.
I personally think tactics like that are gay but I'm also an avid hater of "screen-hopping" in split-screen games. All my friends love to screen-hop, so I got used to it and started doing it myself, I just think that's weak. I still fail to understand how people have fun beating their opponents by exploiting a poor gameplay mechanic, but then again, I think I'm one of the minority who actually prefers a fair game. Most people love to be in a team-deathmatch game where their team is completely obliterating the other side. I prefer to be on the "underdog" team because I prefer more of a challenge. It's more fun to struggle for victory then completely steamroll the other team.
But of course, I suppose it's just human nature to want to have the upper-hand in a competition. What is confusing to me though, is that people who hop around the map, switching from prone to standing to crouched and back again, get all pissed off when you call them "bunnyhoppers". This makes it instantly apparent to me that they know they're doing something "wrong" or otherwise cheap, but they don't want to admit it to themselves, or you. They get all defensive and start slinging personal insults at you, but the fact of the matter is, if they truly felt they weren't doing anything wrong, why do they get so angry when they're called a silly little name like bunnyhopper?
I dunno. Exploits and cheap "techniques" are the main things that turn me off of competitive multiplayer gaming.
i know a lot of ppl say bunnyhopping is fine and its part of the game (bf2 is worse culprit)but cmon espicially in online shooters its just retarded when your trying to have a tactical shootout and sum **** is hopping around madly, spoils it imo. and i could be killed less if i bunnyhop but i choose not to.
Its sad that ppl think moving good is cheating. If your jumping around and they cant hit you, its obviously working, so instead of saying nice dodging they say your being cheap.
Best way to deal with them is tell them you will stand still next time so they can kill you.
crazymonkey092
hahaha, i agree 100% with u crazymonkey
I agree about the idea of allowing one jump then its fair on both sides but come on it's a game and if you dont like it you can always play console shooters but then again theres auto aim so I guess you'll complain on that note too.OoSuperMarioO
So what you're saying is bunny hopping is a PC gamer thing, and if people don't like it, they should play console shooters?
Bunnyhopping is like the giveapenny/takeapenny thing.
Most people are good about it and they jump when needed. Its like an honor system. They dont exploit it.
But every now and then some jerk always takes the pennies but never gives one. These are the bunnyhoppers. They are rare enough to not be annoying, so I Can live with them. Its like a fact of life you just gotta deal.
[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]I agree about the idea of allowing one jump then its fair on both sides but come on it's a game and if you dont like it you can always play console shooters but then again theres auto aim so I guess you'll complain on that note too.SentientGames
So what you're saying is bunny hopping is a PC gamer thing, and if people don't like it, they should play console shooters?
The only console shooter I've experience where ppl make use of jumping is Halo series. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong though.[QUOTE="Elfin"][QUOTE="FlakGunRhodes"]Well its a flaw in many FPS games. If the game is aiming towards realism the jumping should be part of the sprint. Cause nobody is able to jump up and down over and over with roughly 50lbs of gear on, unless their are on friggen steroids. But if the server you went onto has to rules set as no bunny hopping then just abide by the rules eh? It seems fustrating and all but just gonna have to deal with it . :/bl1ndz0r
I think this is the best idea, if it's not allowed then make it so you can only jump so often in a time period. Maybe even add it as a perk or something. I just can't see booting someone for doing what the game allows.
For instance "We've noticed that you've had too many head shots and that is not allowed so yer gettin the boot." :|
That doesnt make any SENSE, shooting is something necesary jumping like an idiot 20 times isnt... it is that simple...
U guys can SAY ANYTHING U WANT but like diving in BF2 IT IS CHEAP... it is a CHEAP TACTIC... and because the game allows it doesnt make it any good... so stop being so cheap and play like a men... i dont have to use all those BS tactics im still im always on the top of the scoreboard
I just meant that it is a useable function in the game and isn't cheating, True it is annoying and mostly not really useful but I don't think it should be a bootable offence unless the server strictly states No Bunny Hopping Allowed.
People who complain about bunny hopping in a game are usually the ones who can't actually do it lol. Thats what i've always thought especially when developers put the function into a game to be used and these people moan about it. Personally i dont use the bunny hopping tactic in FPS games as i really cant be arsed hitting the jump key and i dont seem to have trouble killing people ingame anyway.
As we're on about COD4 i also feel the need to mention that people who moan about the martyrdom(sp?) perk and the underslung grenade launcher being cheap need to stop talking. It's not cheap and you wouldn't die because of them if you moved faster and didn't stand still like a statue half the time!
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Well hitting space bar is not bunny hopping... Bunny hopping was exploiting crap hit boxs/hit recognition where hopping would some how magically stop you from getting hit even when the guy is aiming direclty at you.. That being said if its not exploiting such things, I don't see a problem with it..X360PS3AMD05Yah, thanks i never knew what bunnyhopping was. I just know i used spacebar a bunch of times in BF2142 and nobody ever complained. I have to say it's pretty fun, sometimes you can be in a showdown for like 30 seconds and not hit each other :lol: It's funny and awesome if you win or knife someone in the end. it gets you kinda lit up in 2142. in bf2, you could dolphin dive, which was a pretty ridiculous adaptation of the game mechanics. in 2142 though, the best thing you can do is just... crouch. going prone takes too long where you'll be dead, and jumping makes your shots pretty useless.
Good to see those that understanding that booting someone for something that was implanted in the game is all error. For those that think bunny hoppers should get the boot need to keep the personal anger in their own space because it's absolutely nonsense to justify that a person is ruining the experience by doing something that developers supported in the game, hell you better off telling the guy to dont left click spam because we cant kill you. I agree about the idea of allowing one jump then its fair on both sides but come on it's a game and if you dont like it you can always play console shooters but then again theres auto aim so I guess you'll complain on that note too.OoSuperMarioO
Nobody forces you to play on those servers. Really...people pay their own hard earned money to set up public servers. Why wouldn't they set up their own rules? You're acting like they have an obligation to satisfy you. Really, if you don't like it, play on diffrent server and stop whining.
[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Good to see those that understanding that booting someone for something that was implanted in the game is all error. For those that think bunny hoppers should get the boot need to keep the personal anger in their own space because it's absolutely nonsense to justify that a person is ruining the experience by doing something that developers supported in the game, hell you better off telling the guy to dont left click spam because we cant kill you. I agree about the idea of allowing one jump then its fair on both sides but come on it's a game and if you dont like it you can always play console shooters but then again theres auto aim so I guess you'll complain on that note too.AdrianWerner
Nobody forces you to play on those servers. Really...people pay their own hard earned money to set up public servers. Why wouldn't they set up their own rules? You're acting like they have an obligation to satisfy you. Really, if you don't like it, play on diffrent server and stop whining.
It doesnt matter pay money or not it's a game mechanic and I notice people complain about it when they getting the floor swept from them. For such an insult you coulded kept it to yourself cause you one of them . O I cant kill this guy cause he's making to much of a good use of the spacebar let's get him out of here cause all of us in here want to just crouch up close in battle I'm to lazy to beat him at his own style. Go sit in a corner and deal with it man.It doesnt matter pay money or not it's a game mechanic and I notice people complain about it when they getting the floor swept from them. For such an insult you coulded kept it to yourself cause you one of them . O I cant kill this guy cause he's making to much of a good use of the spacebar let's get him out of here cause all of us in here want to just crouch up close in battle I'm to lazy to beat him at his own style. Go sit in a corner and deal with it man.OoSuperMarioO
Cry more. It's just a game, people can set up some rules. You're like a little spoiled brat that during soccer game grabs the ball with his hands and does a homerun and then complains "why?! I could do it, it was possible". Grow up. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. if you go into somebody server you are expected to abide with their rules, nobody is forcing you to play on them. Why wouldn't the people who don't like bunny hopping have fun? Just because you have some silly ideas should EVERBODY play the way you do? What harm do they do to you? Why not let them have fun?THere are hundreds of servers that allow bunny hopping, so you can play all you want. does the mere idea that somewhere out there there are diffrent servers is uncomfortable to you? And you want be happy untill all of them are set-up exacly the way you want? Are you that egoistical and self-centered? Well, congratulations I guess
[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]It doesnt matter pay money or not it's a game mechanic and I notice people complain about it when they getting the floor swept from them. For such an insult you coulded kept it to yourself cause you one of them . O I cant kill this guy cause he's making to much of a good use of the spacebar let's get him out of here cause all of us in here want to just crouch up close in battle I'm to lazy to beat him at his own style. Go sit in a corner and deal with it man.AdrianWerner
Cry more. It's just a game, people can set up some rules. You're like a little spoiled brat that during soccer game grabs the ball with his hands and does a homerun and then complains "why?! I could do it, it was possible". Grow up. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. if you go into somebody server you are expected to abide with their rules, nobody is forcing you to play on them. Why wouldn't the people who don't like bunny hopping not have fun? Just because you have some silly ideas should EVERBODY play the way you do? What harm do they do to you? Why not let them have fun? Are you that egoistical and self-centered? Well, congratulations I guess
You can reverse your questions and ask those that are against it. Your ranting on me and yetyour replies have little to no logic.Same case with Unreal Tournament 3 "Dont dash side to side because we dont like it and we cant kill you". Shoulded rename the room to casual play cause Im all hardcore baby.No comment. Most players will call this bunny hopping while I call it using what you got. Stupidest thing I heard for someone to tell me to dont use spacebar in firefights.OoSuperMarioO
Maybe you should have change the jump key to "C" so that way you could say you're not using the spacebar.
I gotta say bunnyhoppers annoy the hell out of me in the same way rocket launchers annoy the hell out of me. It is the fault (or choice) of the developers to give you the ability to jump endlessly, but it doesn't make the personwho exploits it any less of a sissy. It's just like when people spam grenades and rockets -sure, it's a valid option in the gameso it's not technically cheating, but it's a tactic for players with too little skill to rack up points in aless explosive manner.
I personally think tactics like that are gay but I'm also an avid hater of "screen-hopping" in split-screen games. All my friends love to screen-hop, so I got used to it and started doing it myself, I just think that's weak. I still fail to understand how people have fun beating their opponents by exploiting a poor gameplay mechanic, but then again, I think I'm one of the minority who actually prefers a fair game. Most people love to be in a team-deathmatch game where their team is completely obliterating the other side. I prefer to be on the "underdog" team because I prefer more of a challenge. It's more fun to struggle for victory then completely steamroll the other team.
But of course, I suppose it's just human nature to want to have the upper-hand in a competition. What is confusing to me though, is that people who hop around the map, switching from prone to standing to crouched and back again, get all pissed off when you call them "bunnyhoppers". This makes it instantly apparent to me that they know they're doing something "wrong" or otherwise cheap, but they don't want to admit it to themselves, or you. They get all defensive and start slinging personal insults at you, but the fact of the matter is, if they truly felt they weren't doing anything wrong, why do they get so angry when they're called a silly little name like bunnyhopper?
I dunno. Exploits and cheap "techniques" are the main things that turn me off of competitive multiplayer gaming.
SentientGames
I tried to take this post seriously, but when you say things like "I personally think tactics like that are gay it makes you look every bit as juvenile as the people you are ranting about.
You can reverse your questions and ask those that are against it. Your ranting on me and yetyour replies have little to no logic.OoSuperMarioO
You make no sense. There are plenty of servers that allow bunny hopping and there are many that don't. So if you want to bunny hop you go to a server that allows it, meanwhile there are also servers for people who don't want bunny hopping. So exacly what's your problem here? You don't agree with rules of particular server? PICK ANOTHER ONE! Is it that hard to you? Really? There are people who don't like bunny hopping, why not let them have fun? Exacly what's your problem with other people playing games the way they want on THEIR OWN SERVERS. Don't like it? What's stopping you from picking diffrent server?
Shoulded rename the room to casual play cause Im all hardcore baby.OoSuperMarioO
you will get kicked out of most hardcore servers if you bunny hop.
[QUOTE="Elfin"][QUOTE="FlakGunRhodes"]Well its a flaw in many FPS games. If the game is aiming towards realism the jumping should be part of the sprint. Cause nobody is able to jump up and down over and over with roughly 50lbs of gear on, unless their are on friggen steroids. But if the server you went onto has to rules set as no bunny hopping then just abide by the rules eh? It seems fustrating and all but just gonna have to deal with it . :/bl1ndz0r
I think this is the best idea, if it'snot allowed then make it so you can only jump so often in a time period. Maybe even add it as a perk or something. I just can't see booting someone for doing what the game allows.
For instance "We've noticed that you've had too many head shots and that is not allowed so yer gettin the boot." :|
That doesnt make any SENSE, shooting is something necesary jumping like an idiot 20 times isnt... it is that simple...
U guys can SAY ANYTHING U WANT but like diving in BF2 IT IS CHEAP... it is a CHEAP TACTIC... and because the game allows it doesnt make it any good... so stop being so cheap and play like a men... i dont have to use all those BS tactics im still im always on the top of the scoreboard
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