Can AMD Ever Beat Intel?

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] A lot of people have a hard time believing that.:( Though if that happens, looks like I'm with AMD again, lulz.

mitu123

you really think AMD would release bulldozer, 6 months AFTER sandy bridge and not have better performance overall? I sincerely doubt it, especially since bulldozer is not based on their older architecture but a completely new one. They probably reverse engineered intels cpu, copied the best bits and made their own cpu better. :D

Notice the dual SSE ADD units with Intel Nehalem.

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] A lot of people have a hard time believing that.:( Though if that happens, looks like I'm with AMD again, lulz.

ronvalencia

you really think AMD would release bulldozer, 6 months AFTER sandy bridge and not have better performance overall? I sincerely doubt it, especially since bulldozer is not based on their older architecture but a completely new one. They probably reverse engineered intels cpu, copied the best bits and made their own cpu better. :D

Wait just let me clarify to see if I am understanding you correctly.

With the Bulldozer... If a game only supports say 2 cores, and you make it as a dual core, will it give it more power per the cores being used? and if the game only uses one core, you can go uber 1 core mode, to where its like the fastest single core ever!?!?!?! (where the 1 uber core, is faster {per core} than in dual core mode, and even more so than in 4 or 8 core mode)?

The main constant is that AMD has always been less expensive than Intel's offerings. Motherboards are generally cheaper, too.... AMD tends to favored the custom builder with there unlocked multipliers on their Black edition processors, as well. So, it's not really a matter of needing to beat Intel when it comes to AMD products. Also, AMD bought out ATI. Which makes AMD way ahead on the Gaming PC spectrum, if you ask me.

That article seems to talk a lot about Laptops... funny that they say nothing about the graphics chip that most Intel laptops come with. In that most laptop owners find out after, that their laptops can't run a game due to the lame Intel Express graphic chip that they always seem to be packaged with.... You're not likely going to find an Intel Graphic Chip paired with an AMD processor.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

you really think AMD would release bulldozer, 6 months AFTER sandy bridge and not have better performance overall? I sincerely doubt it, especially since bulldozer is not based on their older architecture but a completely new one. They probably reverse engineered intels cpu, copied the best bits and made their own cpu better. :D

Lach0121

Wait just let me clarify to see if I am understanding you correctly.

With the Bulldozer... If a game only supports say 2 cores, and you make it as a dual core, will it give it more power per the cores being used? and if the game only uses one core, you can go uber 1 core mode, to where its like the fastest single core ever!?!?!?! (where the 1 uber core, is faster {per core} than in dual core mode, and even more so than in 4 or 8 core mode)?

Each pair of cores share a certain amount of the resources on the die. so when something isn't as multithreaded, each core gets to hog all the resources that it used to share.

Intels hyperthreading added a small amount of die space to do more threads gaining about a 20% improvement in apps that are multithreaded, AMDs version, was to take the cores have some share resources, gaining nearly 2x the performance in apps that are multithreaded each module (2 cores) is about 10 % larger than 1 core of the old design.

they can beat intel, but its tough to say if they will..they have in the past

People tend to forget and often downright ignore the fact that the retail market if but a small fraction of the total revenue of each company. Intel and AMD, and also Nvidia also make chips for a great number of devices found in any house, ranging from TVs to hi-fis ti mp3 players and lets not forget cellphones. There are other companies involved in this market too, but that's where the majority of the money is made for these companies as everything nowadays has a small cpu in it, or something resembling a cpu.

No i dont think so.. Intel give better performance than AMD.. Now intel has introduce three new processor which are excellent for gaming.. Core I3,5,7 I am a great fan of Intel and I am using Intel I3 processor..I am a satisfied user.. No problem with Intel processorshushamjaveed

You don't think AMD can beat Intel because currently Intel is beating AMD? I hope that this isn't your reasoning...

Total performance is irrelevent when such a small market segment buys the top chips.markop2003

This is very true. What AMD need to do is get more of their CPU's sold via OEM's like Dell, HP, Acer, etc. The high-end retail market is minuscule.

People tend to forget and often downright ignore the fact that the retail market if but a small fraction of the total revenue of each company. Intel and AMD, and also Nvidia also make chips for a great number of devices found in any house, ranging from TVs to hi-fis ti mp3 players and lets not forget cellphones.

Slayerduckie

I don't think so, playing the catch up game is hard