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I'm loving it though the system requirements make my computer cry. The odd thing is turning stuff down doesn't seem to affect performance a whole lot. Going from very high to minimum is just a minor boost for me. Needs a few patches too, right now I get bizarre crashes at the weirdest times, just going through the main menu, in the intro, loading a game, moving a unit at the start of the game, building a city, taking a city, the game crashes whenever it feels like it.

But....when it plays holy crap this is a lot better than Civ 4. My mind is boggled why some people miss unit stacking. There was absolutely no strategy to unit stacking and it was a necessity because of the ridiculous defensive bonuses you could get. I don't care how dug in your spearmen are on a hill, it shouldn't take several much more advanced units to take them out. The new combat is refreshing, fun, and has more depth to it then simply spamming stacks. Navies and air units are so useful now too. They've gone from being support units to full on necessity when fighting. I love to just find a civ with a coast line then park a line of battleships and carriers and just bombard and bomb the hell out of them till there's nothing left then roll in the land invasion.

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Wierd, I have not has any crashes yet in 18 hours with it, but... in the late game it slows down and takes way to long for the other civilization to go.

Its wierd because Elemental has same issue in way later turns. Both games could use a little boost or increase in FPS in later game turns.

Other then that its ran very well for me and is very addicting :P

Sorry to hear you are having crashes, save often :P

To me everything in Civ5 is better then Civ4, other then relgion being gone. The combat is 1000 times better, the graphics are better, etc..

If they can work on the AI and fix late turn slowdowns, Ill be a happy camper (wait a minute.. thats same issues I had with Elemental :P )

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#52 ProudLarry
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People miss the civics the most, and also religion. The new culture system looks too gimmicky, as do the new city states. I think a lot agree that unit stacking isn't going to be missed, and I've seen a mod that allows unit stacking already.

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Social Policies are an improvement over Civics, in my opinion. Gives you alot more options on how you run your nation.
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#53 Cruse34
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My speacial edition just came in the mail, can't wait to play it :D

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#54 F1_2004
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]

People miss the civics the most, and also religion. The new culture system looks too gimmicky, as do the new city states. I think a lot agree that unit stacking isn't going to be missed, and I've seen a mod that allows unit stacking already.

ProudLarry
Social Policies are an improvement over Civics, in my opinion. Gives you alot more options on how you run your nation.

Nawww. You could put together various combinations of civics to give your empire a much different feel, and each choice had advantages and consequences. Social policies are kind of like unlocks, you earn enough "culture" points (another very arbitrary thing, by the way) and spend it on policies that are simply beneficial. And as far as I know you can't switch social policies. All too abstract and gamey/gimmicky if you ask me.
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#55 ProudLarry
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[QUOTE="ProudLarry"][QUOTE="F1_2004"]

People miss the civics the most, and also religion. The new culture system looks too gimmicky, as do the new city states. I think a lot agree that unit stacking isn't going to be missed, and I've seen a mod that allows unit stacking already.

F1_2004
Social Policies are an improvement over Civics, in my opinion. Gives you alot more options on how you run your nation.

Nawww. You could put together various combinations of civics to give your empire a much different feel, and each choice had advantages and consequences. Social policies are kind of like unlocks, you earn enough "culture" points (another very arbitrary thing, by the way) and spend it on policies that are simply beneficial. And as far as I know you can't switch social policies. All too abstract and gamey/gimmicky if you ask me.

It might not offer as much flexibility as Civics (and Advantage/Disadvantage was how that flexibility was balanced), but you still have so many options, that I think that makes up for it. And at the end of most games of Civ4 I was using the same Civics as every other game I had played. And really the only reason there seemed to be a reason to change Civics was if you were at war or peace.
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I am enjoying this game, but I still prefer Civ 4 as it is better in its current state with expansions. Although there is a ton of potential for Civ 5 to become better than 4, the way combat works now is much better IMO. Natural wonders are pretty sweet too. City states are a good addition but I wish we didn't have to lose other things like religion to make way for these.

Things I miss is you have an overall happiness rating rather than individual towns, I don't understand why it is this way, this does feel dumbed down to me and has annoyed me. Another thing that annoys me is the fact that winning by force is so much easier than the other conditions, especially on higher difficulties, it feels like they are forcing you to go military heavy and win via that path. As for the removal of espionage, I am not a fan of this either, I don't see why it was removed. My biggest dissapointment though is with the lack of multiplayer support yet again, they havn't advanced on this front at all. I would love to see rankings and dedicated servers but I guess they don't feel the game needs it.

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#57 SLUSHiNaToR
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I got it yesterday and its truly amazing.. I'm playing as Japan cause their bonus that makes their troops fight at full strength even when wounded is awesome. Im close to 200 turns with 12 players. I think 3 are gone already.. I conquered India and one city-state.. >:D
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I have only played Civ Rev and I played it on PS3. I played the demo for it first and loved it, seemed like a lot of fun so I went out and bought it first day, for the PS3. Every time I played it, it ended around the same time, in the space age. And whoever won, won by one of the many ways you can win. This made me see this game as nothing more than an extended demo and was really not worth buying it.

I keep hearing good things and interesting things about Civ 5 and I would like to try it, but I can't because it is a PC game. Should I pick it up? Is the Civ games better than Rev was? I know Rev was a short game and the actual Civ games are longer, but is it worth it to have the game basically always end around the same time every time and whoever is in the lead wins?

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I have only played Civ Rev and I played it on PS3. I played the demo for it first and loved it, seemed like a lot of fun so I went out and bought it first day, for the PS3. Every time I played it, it ended around the same time, in the space age. And whoever won, won by one of the many ways you can win. This made me see this game as nothing more than an extended demo and was really not worth buying it. I keep hearing good things and interesting things about Civ 5 and I would like to try it, but I can't because it is a PC game. Should I pick it up? Is the Civ games better than Rev was? I know Rev was a short game and the actual Civ games are longer, but is it worth it to have the game basically always end around the same time every time and whoever is in the lead wins?Shacks210
There's a demo for Civ5. Try it out. In the full game you can disable the "Time Victory", so that the only way the game ends is when one of the players achieves one of the other victories.
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I have only played Civ Rev and I played it on PS3. I played the demo for it first and loved it, seemed like a lot of fun so I went out and bought it first day, for the PS3. Every time I played it, it ended around the same time, in the space age. And whoever won, won by one of the many ways you can win. This made me see this game as nothing more than an extended demo and was really not worth buying it.

I keep hearing good things and interesting things about Civ 5 and I would like to try it, but I can't because it is a PC game. Should I pick it up? Is the Civ games better than Rev was? I know Rev was a short game and the actual Civ games are longer, but is it worth it to have the game basically always end around the same time every time and whoever is in the lead wins?

Shacks210

Dude Civ4 and Civ 5 destroy Civ Rev, I got Civ Rev for 360 and I just couldnt get into it after playign Civ1-Civ4, it was just to dumbed down and steamlined imo.

Civilization games on PC have alot more depth to them then Civ Rev did.

If you have a gaming pc then definatly pick up Civ5, its a pc exclusive.

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#61 deactivated-64b76bd048860
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Man, I'm totally loving Civ V right now. I keep on trying to stop playing to play StarCraft II or Halo Reach but I just keep on going back...
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#62 LIONHEART-_-
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I'm gonna get the game this week I'm so excited!

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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]I'm staying as far away from this title as possible. I fear that for the next couple years all I'll be doing is playing this game. Elann2008
As weird as it sounds, this is true. I am staying away from Civ 5 for just a little while longer. I'm still playing Civ 4....

You guys are making it seem as good as Civ 3 or something. I remember staying up for LITERATELY over 24 hours playing Civ 3 nonstop. Wild, man. If this is better than Civ 3, it simply has to be gotton. Does gamespot have a demo yet?
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People miss the civics the most, and also religion. The new culture system looks too gimmicky, as do the new city states. I think a lot agree that unit stacking isn't going to be missed, and I've seen a mod that allows unit stacking already.

F1_2004
I'll miss unit stacking. How does the combat system work now? That's why I'm wary of getting it, I don't want to have to learn how to play again. I used to love getting 50+ units all lined up in ships ready to invade an island or continent. Felt like d-day.
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#65 DieselCat18
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My speacial edition just came in the mail, can't wait to play it :D

Cruse34

Was hoping someone with the Special editon would chime in. What do you think about it ? ...I bought the SE of CIV IV when it was released and found it to be one of the best in terms of quality and content anywhere...was wondering if CIV 5 SE is also worth it.

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#66 shaneras
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]

People miss the civics the most, and also religion. The new culture system looks too gimmicky, as do the new city states. I think a lot agree that unit stacking isn't going to be missed, and I've seen a mod that allows unit stacking already.

herpderp9000

I'll miss unit stacking. How does the combat system work now? That's why I'm wary of getting it, I don't want to have to learn how to play again. I used to love getting 50+ units all lined up in ships ready to invade an island or continent. Felt like d-day.

Trust me, the combat is so much better. There are less units, the units last for longer, one unit per tile, so it is ultimately more tactical experience. But you should try the demo of course...

Oh and I don't miss religion too much, the civics are kinda there, but they're just hidden within the social policies.

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#67 blueness
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I'm staying as far away from this title as possible. I fear that for the next couple years all I'll be doing is playing this game. _Pedro_
This. I have Civ issues. Haven't touched the series since Civ 2 when I lost several months of my life to that game ;-)
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#68 DN13x
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I got Civ5 yesterday and already played 4 hrs - ive went Germany, and never played a civ game before in my life. Its a fantastic Strategy experience, cant wait to see it online. 9/10 and im off to play it now !! :P
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]I'm staying as far away from this title as possible. I fear that for the next couple years all I'll be doing is playing this game. herpderp9000
As weird as it sounds, this is true. I am staying away from Civ 5 for just a little while longer. I'm still playing Civ 4....

You guys are making it seem as good as Civ 3 or something. I remember staying up for LITERATELY over 24 hours playing Civ 3 nonstop. Wild, man. If this is better than Civ 3, it simply has to be gotton. Does gamespot have a demo yet?

It isn't as good as civ 3/4 were. It is a good game and if you prefer winning by other means than combat, then the previous games are better IMO.
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[QUOTE="Shacks210"]I have only played Civ Rev and I played it on PS3. I played the demo for it first and loved it, seemed like a lot of fun so I went out and bought it first day, for the PS3. Every time I played it, it ended around the same time, in the space age. And whoever won, won by one of the many ways you can win. This made me see this game as nothing more than an extended demo and was really not worth buying it. I keep hearing good things and interesting things about Civ 5 and I would like to try it, but I can't because it is a PC game. Should I pick it up? Is the Civ games better than Rev was? I know Rev was a short game and the actual Civ games are longer, but is it worth it to have the game basically always end around the same time every time and whoever is in the lead wins?ProudLarry
There's a demo for Civ5. Try it out. In the full game you can disable the "Time Victory", so that the only way the game ends is when one of the players achieves one of the other victories.

ok thanks.

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[QUOTE="Cruse34"]

My speacial edition just came in the mail, can't wait to play it :D

DieselCat18

Was hoping someone with the Special editon would chime in. What do you think about it ? ...I bought the SE of CIV IV when it was released and found it to be one of the best in terms of quality and content anywhere...was wondering if CIV 5 SE is also worth it.

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The figurines are very nice and the art book is more then I excepted. I haven't tryed out the DVD or CD yet.

Has anyone had a problem with the game crashing while attacking cities? I have a couple times

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#72 KHAndAnime
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What are the multiplayer options? Can you join others via IP?
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[QUOTE="herpderp9000"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] As weird as it sounds, this is true. I am staying away from Civ 5 for just a little while longer. I'm still playing Civ 4....wigan_gamer
You guys are making it seem as good as Civ 3 or something. I remember staying up for LITERATELY over 24 hours playing Civ 3 nonstop. Wild, man. If this is better than Civ 3, it simply has to be gotton. Does gamespot have a demo yet?

It isn't as good as civ 3/4 were. It is a good game and if you prefer winning by other means than combat, then the previous games are better IMO.

I gotta dissagree, its definatly better then Civ4 in 90% of the aspects.

As for Civ2 and Civ3? I dont know if its as good as those yet, time will tell.

Its def the best Civ game since Civ3 though imo.

Really impressed with how much they improved the combat!

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[QUOTE="wigan_gamer"][QUOTE="herpderp9000"] You guys are making it seem as good as Civ 3 or something. I remember staying up for LITERATELY over 24 hours playing Civ 3 nonstop. Wild, man. If this is better than Civ 3, it simply has to be gotton. Does gamespot have a demo yet?kozzy1234

It isn't as good as civ 3/4 were. It is a good game and if you prefer winning by other means than combat, then the previous games are better IMO.

I gotta dissagree, its definatly better then Civ4 in 90% of the aspects.

As for Civ2 and Civ3? I dont know if its as good as those yet, time will tell.

Its def the best Civ game since Civ3 though imo.

Really impressed with how much they improved the combat!

The combat seems to be one of the areas of improvement over the last game, Though I never really had any issues with it. I am looking forward to this but can't decide on the standard or special edition. The binder on Civ IV SE was so beautifully done, hoping for the same with 5. My wife almost divorced me last time around, she's not gonna be pleased when I get my new copy of this....:P

Duckman is my hero ! .....8)

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#75 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="wigan_gamer"] It isn't as good as civ 3/4 were. It is a good game and if you prefer winning by other means than combat, then the previous games are better IMO.DieselCat18

I gotta dissagree, its definatly better then Civ4 in 90% of the aspects.

As for Civ2 and Civ3? I dont know if its as good as those yet, time will tell.

Its def the best Civ game since Civ3 though imo.

Really impressed with how much they improved the combat!

The combat seems to be one of the areas of improvement over the last game, Though I never really had any issues with it. I am looking forward to this but can't decide on the standard or special edition. The binder on Civ IV SE was so beautifully done, hoping for the same with 5. My wife almost divorced me last time around, she's not gonna be pleased when I get my new copy of this....:P

Duckman is my hero ! .....8)

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Another Duckman fan, good stuff 8)

its wierd, I changed my avy a few months ago.. but every few days it switched back to duckman on its own haha, its hilarious, its like it doenst want it to stop beign my avy :lol:

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#76 testament1
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Well, I downloaded the today, and after about 4 hours of replaying it, I finally gave in and bought the full game off Steam. I think the developers did an AMAZING job with this game, especially the UI, and how it seamlessly teaches you the game. I have never played any of the Civilization games, and have maybe played 2 hours total on previous RTS games, so I'm pretty much a RTS noob. Despite that, Civ 5 already has me addicted, so I can only imagine what the game must be doing to vets that have been looking forward to it. Now my only problem is waiting for it to download. Oh, and now I'll have to choose between watching football all day tomorrow, or Civ 5, a decision I think I'll be forced to make for many more Sundays in the future....
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#77 Agent-Zero
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It's the first PC game I've bought since...Let me think it's been awhile....Either the original Sims or Starcraft 1.

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#78 BPOilExecutive
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Sid Meir can suck a fat phallus with the release of Civ 5. As much as I enjoyed Civ 4, the PC companies have **** quality assurance people, Civ 5's release was a disaster just like most MMO's in the last 5+ years. Test the **** before you release it and make sure it works.

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#79 kozzy1234
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Sid Meir can suck a fat phallus with the release of Civ 5. As much as I enjoyed Civ 4, the PC companies have **** quality assurance people, Civ 5's release was a disaster just like most MMO's in the last 5+ years. Test the **** before you release it and make sure it works.

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works great for me and my friends

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Maybe now and maybe you never had an issue. My friends and I did with windows 7 64.

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#81 Makari
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Maybe now and maybe you never had an issue. My friends and I did with windows 7 64.

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my win7 64's been pretty much perfect since launch, too - in comparison, my roommate's crashes after a while (but his does that in starcraft 2 also), and my gf's does on dx10 though it also crashes under alien swarm where mine doesn't.
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If you're playing a game of continents or islands do yourself a favor and get warships and get then promote to have 1 extra firing range and 1 extra sight range. GG.

In my current game I have 6 destroyers all with 3 firing range, 4 sight (commerce policy), 3x land bombardment, 2x attack moves and some with indirect fire... With that combo I destroyed all of Alexanders land armies and sieged all his cities, then went and took everything with a couple of infantryman.

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#83 GenericUser12
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I usually don't like strategy games because I'm not a pathetic loser, but I'll give this one a try 8)

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#84 the_mitch28
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I usually don't like strategy games because I'm not a pathetic loser, but I'll give this one a try 8)

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The way you talk suggests otherwise.

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#85 _Pedro_
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lol this game was the top playing title on steam for a while. That is a lot of people that are going to start failing at school and getting divorces :P
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#86 Ragingbear505
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Ok so running the game in DirectX 9 instantly fixed all my crash issues and I can now run the game at highest settings at 1680 x 1050. Guess it was DirectX 10 killing me.

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#87 BradDavies2
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I have this game and i used the code (instead of the disc) on the back of the manual to install it from steam and it work perfectly fine 100% installed, but when i click on the game icon its comes up with some options then after a while it loads up a gaming screen, but before you see any picture it closes down---WTH could any one help?
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Me and one of my friends want to have a really fun and mad game against each other with unlimited gold so that we can have an awesome game.

Is there any way to do this over LAN or over the internet?