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#51 Brendissimo35
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[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]First off, remaking an old game as a new one in a new engine as a mod is NOT a new phenomenon. Qixote

Please educate me. What other game has been completely remade on a newer engine and released free of charge with no royalty going to the original makers?

off the top of my head:

TES IV: Vvardenfell

Tamriel Rebuilt (not quite complete)

Goldeneye Source

New Doom

Project Revolution (sequel not remake, but still)

And there are many more, thousands upon housands if you count usage of concepts or assets and converting them.

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#52 Flamuel
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This will be good HL was my favourite SP FPS until HL2 came out. I hope we can use thie iwth Synergy for some HL1 CO-op hotness

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#53 Qixote
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[QUOTE="Qixote"]

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]First off, remaking an old game as a new one in a new engine as a mod is NOT a new phenomenon. Brendissimo35

Please educate me. What other game has been completely remade on a newer engine and released free of charge with no royalty going to the original makers?

off the top of my head:

TES IV: Vvardenfell

Tamriel Rebuilt (not quite complete)

Goldeneye Source

New Doom

Project Revolution (sequel not remake, but still)

And there are many more, thousands upon housands if you count usage of concepts or assets and converting them.

That's not exactly alot. And Goldeneye isn't really the same undertaking that Black Mesa is. Goldeneye is a multiplayer game mod, that does not copy much of the original. Thousands and Thousands? Lol, now you are exaggerating. I'm counting entire games being remade, not bits and pieces of games being remade.

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#54 Brendissimo35
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[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

[QUOTE="Qixote"] Please educate me. What other game has been completely remade on a newer engine and released free of charge with no royalty going to the original makers?

Qixote

off the top of my head:

TES IV: Vvardenfell

Tamriel Rebuilt (not quite complete)

Goldeneye Source

New Doom

Project Revolution (sequel not remake, but still)

And there are many more, thousands upon housands if you count usage of concepts or assets and converting them.

That's not exactly alot. And Goldeneye isn't really the same undertaking that Black Mesa is. Goldeneye is a multiplayer game mod, that does not copy much of the original. Thousands and Thousands? Lol, now you are exaggerating. I'm counting entire games being remade, not bits and pieces of games being remade.

Like I said there are many more, but I'm not going to google them all for you. Goldeneye is a significant undertaking nonetheless, if you look at the screenshots theyy've put alot of work into it, and the Elder Scrolls is a MUCH larger undertaking that Half Life, and it's coming along great. Might I also mention that no royalties or other diabolical restraints have been pursued by the devs. Just to reiterate, THIS IS HOW MODDING WORKS. I can't say it any clearer, and the evidence is right in front of you. I really don't know what else to tell you.

Thousands? yes. I'll quote myself for your benefit here "thousands upon housands (sic) if you count usage of concepts or assets and converting them" I clearly differentiate between full conversions and partial conversions or usage of assets. I am of course, not saying there are thousands of remakes out there, but there are quite a few, disproving your earlier claim that "nothing like this has ever happened before".

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#55 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Qixote"]

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

off the top of my head:

TES IV: Vvardenfell

Tamriel Rebuilt (not quite complete)

Goldeneye Source

New Doom

Project Revolution (sequel not remake, but still)

And there are many more, thousands upon housands if you count usage of concepts or assets and converting them.

Brendissimo35

That's not exactly alot. And Goldeneye isn't really the same undertaking that Black Mesa is. Goldeneye is a multiplayer game mod, that does not copy much of the original. Thousands and Thousands? Lol, now you are exaggerating. I'm counting entire games being remade, not bits and pieces of games being remade.

Like I said there are many more, but I'm not going to google them all for you. Goldeneye is a significant undertaking nonetheless, if you look at the screenshots theyy've put alot of work into it, and the Elder Scrolls is a MUCH larger undertaking that Half Life, and it's coming along great. Might I also mention that no royalties or other diabolical restraints have been pursued by the devs. Just to reiterate, THIS IS HOW MODDING WORKS. I can't say it any clearer, and the evidence is right in front of you. Google it, visit some websites, or whatever it takes to understand that, I really don't know what else to tell you.

Thousands? yes. I'll quote myself for your benefit here "thousands upon housands (sic) if you count usage of concepts or assets and converting them" I clearly differentiate between full conversions and partial conversions or usage of assets. I am of course, not saying there are thousands of remakes out there, but there are quite a few, disproving your earlier claim that "nothing like this has ever happened before".

Yes, i'm sure PONG or PAC-MAN might have been recreated a million + times in flash and uploaded. However thats not quite the same.
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#56 MrLions
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:( I thought you we going to say that it's out. But I guess a few more weeks wouldn't hurt :Pflipin_jackass
Same here....Im tired of these threads popping up and making me excited! :x
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#57 Gamesterpheonix
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lol it aint free unless its League of Legends.
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#58 blade55555
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[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.Nibroc420

Like any mod for any game, you will need to own a game built on the engine the mod was based on. Any source engine game will do. That's how mods work. However, Half Life source will not be a requirement.

Do you honestly think that if people went out and remade the EXACT game with better graphics, using Valve's new engine. That Valve wont go "Wait... hold on." and they'll just let it slide? Oooh, there goes... All of HL's potential sales, however small they may be. Not going to happen, Valve wont let this go... I bet that they just expect this mod to crash and burn, then valve can come along and make it.

I doubt it. I bet Valve knows about this mod and just doesn't care. They do NOT want to piss off the community. I have it anyway so it doesn't matter but valve isn't going to make it a requirement.
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#59 THA-TODD-BEAST
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*Sigh*

And to think I was going to actually get something out of this thread. .

Instead I read about a mod that has been in the works since the stone age.

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#60 DiableHunter
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man a lot of you guys are some negative ungrateful losers. not everyone is a gaming nerd that knows everything about games. im just trying to inform those who dont know about mods. gtfo with your "everyone on this forum knows what mods are because were a bunch of gaming nerds" comments please.

erglesmergle

I have to agree with you there (but not with that type of language). Some people are being real idiots, So the vast majority of people who have posted know what mods are, but with all things there is a minority, in which case that minority would be people who are unfamiliar with mods.I bet that i could go on about all the modding terms such as Open GL, WIP, UE3, Texturing, skinning, C++, SDK, hardcoded, etc... the chances are that only a small minority are truly are familiar with mods past them knowing what the definition of a mod is. SO i would really stop giving this guy **** because he gave off a tiny bit of extra information, which wasn't hurting anyone, and just because that little bit of information wasn't relevant to you doesn't mean it was useless.

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#61 Blade8Aus
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[QUOTE="Qixote"]

What, you think we are a bunch of pc gaming noobs here?

erglesmergle

*For those unfamiliar with mods*

Ive asked many people if they knew about mods, and 8/10 didnt know what I was talking about. Not everyone on this forum has 9k posts and lives revolving around video games.

how old are you?

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#62 Blade8Aus
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[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.Phoenix534

This. We'll HAVE to buy Half-Life: Source.

impossible how could Valve possibly do that? doesn't make any sense....

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#63 Blade8Aus
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Brendissimo35"] Like any mod for any game, you will need to own a game built on the engine the mod was based on. Any source engine game will do. That's how mods work. However, Half Life source will not be a requirement.

gameguy6700

Do you honestly think that if people went out and remade the EXACT game with better graphics, using Valve's new engine. That Valve wont go "Wait... hold on." and they'll just let it slide? Oooh, there goes... All of HL's potential sales, however small they may be. Not going to happen, Valve wont let this go... I bet that they just expect this mod to crash and burn, then valve can come along and make it.

Dude, Valve has been on record since HL:S came out that they wouldn't interfere with a Half-Life remake. In fact, they encouraged modders to remake Half Life. Valve basically said that the reason they didn't put any effort into a Half-Life: Source is because it was just to get new players introduced to the HL universe before playing HL2, and that they were "sure" that the fans would create at least one remake by and for themselves without Valve needing to do anything.

Valve is one of the most mod friendly devs out there. They don't sue modders, they hire them (see: Team Fortress, Counterstrike, and Day of Defeat). Furthermore, this isn't the first time someone has made what is essentially a full game in the form of a mod for one of Valve's games. Portal: Prelude was released earlier this year and is essentially a free prequel to Portal (the mod is about the same size, if not larger, than the original game, and comes complete with a new plot and voice acting) and Valve didn't bat an eye.

this.

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#64 chapman86
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Valve is not dumb as EA or Ubi, they know that they need extra time to occupy HL fans until HL EP3 comes out, they won't hold grudge on this modder group for releasing half life that pretty much sold most of copies to the calculated potential customers.

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#65 Blade8Aus
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[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

[QUOTE="Qixote"] Please educate me. What other game has been completely remade on a newer engine and released free of charge with no royalty going to the original makers?

Qixote

off the top of my head:

TES IV: Vvardenfell

Tamriel Rebuilt (not quite complete)

Goldeneye Source

New Doom

Project Revolution (sequel not remake, but still)

And there are many more, thousands upon housands if you count usage of concepts or assets and converting them.

That's not exactly alot. And Goldeneye isn't really the same undertaking that Black Mesa is. Goldeneye is a multiplayer game mod, that does not copy much of the original. Thousands and Thousands? Lol, now you are exaggerating. I'm counting entire games being remade, not bits and pieces of games being remade.

HeXeN: Edge of Chaos

Perfect Dark: Source

Team Fortress.... theres like 8 variations of this

Call of Quake (although not an actual sequel I don't think)

theres some 3d version of Duke Nukem 3d somewhere

again there is more

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. Portal: Prelude was released earlier this year and is essentially a free prequel to Portal (the mod is about the same size, if not larger, than the original game, and comes complete with a new plot and voice acting) and Valve didn't bat an eye.gameguy6700
And the most important thing, it's WAY better than the original game, the guys that made Portal: Prelude put Valve to shame.
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#67 TacticalElefant
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Isn't HL2: Deathmatch free for... like, every ATI and Nvidia user?

HenriH-42

What about those poor souls with Intel graphics cards? :cry:

No time for stragglers!

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[QUOTE="Qixote"]

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

off the top of my head:

TES IV: Vvardenfell

Tamriel Rebuilt (not quite complete)

Goldeneye Source

New Doom

Project Revolution (sequel not remake, but still)

And there are many more, thousands upon housands if you count usage of concepts or assets and converting them.

Blade8Aus

That's not exactly alot. And Goldeneye isn't really the same undertaking that Black Mesa is. Goldeneye is a multiplayer game mod, that does not copy much of the original. Thousands and Thousands? Lol, now you are exaggerating. I'm counting entire games being remade, not bits and pieces of games being remade.

HeXeN: Edge of Chaos

Perfect Dark: Source

Team Fortress.... theres like 8 variations of this

Call of Quake (although not an actual sequel I don't think)

theres some 3d version of Duke Nukem 3d somewhere

again there is more

saying that they cant do this, is like saying you cant remake de_dust2 because your just doing it updated... NO! Its a mod friendly game/engine... Its fine what there doing... Valve wont care...
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#69 Vesica_Prime
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

This. We'll HAVE to buy Half-Life: Source.

kieranb2000

Reason why it's being made for/was created on "Half Life 2" and IS a "HL 2" mod that uses absolutely nothing from HL/HL:S and it will probably be released as a standalone Source mod like Insurgency, Age of Chivalry, etc. The only thing you might have to buy here is the mod itself if they decide to gain something from all their hard work (IF you don't already have HL2 or any other Source game).

The thing is, Half Life and Half Life Source still SELL. I'm not sure how, or why, but those games sell pretty decently. Not great, they are old after all, but Valve still makes a little money off them. Valve are NOT going to stand by and let a mod team give one of their games away for free. They will step in some point towards the end (if there ever is an end, I swear that mod team should work for Valve considering their amazing scheduling skills) and say "You know, we would like to make this require Half Life/Half Life Source." Yes, it uses no assets from those two games, it is a brand new remake, but that doesn't mean Valve can't tie them in together, since the source engine requires steam open to launch now-a-days anyway, so they could easily tie that to one/both of those games.

Actually Black Mesa requires any Source game that comes with the SDK, and if Valve were to shut down Black Mesa they had a good 5 years to do so and the mod isn't exactly trying to hide itself as it got loads of publicity. Also the most Valve did was to ask the Black Mesa crew to remove 'Source' from the title (it was called Black Mesa Source originally).

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#70 Mochyc
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[QUOTE="Qixote"]

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]First off, remaking an old game as a new one in a new engine as a mod is NOT a new phenomenon. Brendissimo35

Please educate me. What other game has been completely remade on a newer engine and released free of charge with no royalty going to the original makers?

off the top of my head:

TES IV: Vvardenfell

Tamriel Rebuilt (not quite complete)

Goldeneye Source

New Doom

Project Revolution (sequel not remake, but still)

And there are many more, thousands upon housands if you count usage of concepts or assets and converting them.

I don't think any of them are finished. Hell, TES IV: Vvardenfell hasn't been updated since 2006 and the last forum post was in 2008. Unless I'm missing something of course.