Core2Duo E4400 to E8400?

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#1 PC_X360
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E4400 3.2 Ghz to E8400 3 Ghz. Is the extra 4Mb cache worth $200?
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#2 GTR2addict
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yup

it makes quite a bit of difference, not THAT HUGEEEE, nut u WILL notice it, not to mention, if u got an E4400 to 3.2, u can get an E8400 to at least 4.2

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#3 ajkalan
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You're the only one who can answer that question. This bit-tech article suggests that you'll see a 5-15 fps increase. It doesn't sound like a big increase to me, but it's your $200.
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You're the only one who can answer that question. This bit-tech article suggests that you'll see a 5-15 fps increase. It doesn't sound like a big increase to me, but it's your $200.ajkalan
Its all about clcok speed
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#5 marcthpro
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IT possible to oc. to it. you want a oc review il send a oc review
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300_9.html#sect0
look crysis : unreal tourament 3 & World in conflict to see how overclocking is a important feature it only on 1024x700 but on higher resolution it far make a difference
mean in test and benchmark like if you try to run crysis 1280x1024 : all very high with one medium . well with a OC CPU you could obtain that frame rate that is needing you so bad. or 1650x1050 or 1600x1200 or even 1920x1200
1920x1200 most of the game require Two Video card or Single 280GTX or HD4870X2 incoming to handle such game like Crysis & World in conflict and other game with better FPS on higher resolution. with all on
and stuff like that much more game incoming and well OC A cpu to 1.0ghz Extra Give a ultra boost performance for video gamer
and as well application. hope this review help you
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#6 marcthpro
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[QUOTE="ajkalan"]You're the only one who can answer that question. This bit-tech article suggests that you'll see a 5-15 fps increase. It doesn't sound like a big increase to me, but it's your $200.PC_X360
Its all about clcok speed


no FSB 1333 of E8400-e8500 is as well better : and Architecutre of the cpu of course mhz is making a major differance but
the thing is. it also the architeture it explain why sometime a E6400 3.2Ghz OC won't defeat a 3.0Ghz non OC E8400
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[QUOTE="PC_X360"][QUOTE="ajkalan"]You're the only one who can answer that question. This bit-tech article suggests that you'll see a 5-15 fps increase. It doesn't sound like a big increase to me, but it's your $200.marcthpro
Its all about clcok speed


no FSB 1333 of E8400-e8500 is as well better : and Architecutre of the cpu of course mhz is making a major differance but
the thing is. it also the architeture it explain why sometime a E6400 3.2Ghz OC won't defeat a 3.0Ghz non OC E8400

[QUOTE="PC_X360"][QUOTE="ajkalan"]You're the only one who can answer that question. This bit-tech article suggests that you'll see a 5-15 fps increase. It doesn't sound like a big increase to me, but it's your $200.marcthpro
Its all about clcok speed


no FSB 1333 of E8400-e8500 is as well better : and Architecutre of the cpu of course mhz is making a major differance but
the thing is. it also the architeture it explain why sometime a E6400 3.2Ghz OC won't defeat a 3.0Ghz non OC E8400

All core2duos have the same design lol. Only clock speed, cache and fsb are different. btw my E4400's fsb is 1260Mhz
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#8 marcthpro
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also chip size. smaller the 45nm
Wolfdale is the codename for the E7000 and E8000 series of Core 2 Duo desktop processors, which are similar to the Penryn and Yorkfield XE dies and succeed the Conroe dies. Released on January 20, 2008, the chips are manufactured using a 45-nanometer process and feature two processor cores. The E7200 model, operating at 2.53 GHz, has 3MB of L2 cache and a 1066 MT/s FSB; the other models, operating at 2.66 GHz, 3.0 GHz, and 3.16 GHz, each have 6MB of shared L2 cache and a 1333 MT/s FSB. The processor includes the SSE4.1 media extensions.
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yup

it makes quite a bit of difference, not THAT HUGEEEE, nut u WILL notice it, not to mention, if u got an E4400 to 3.2, u can get an E8400 to at least 4.2

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Wolfdales are beasts but they cant be pushed as hard as the 65nm C2D siblings due to vcore being a tad more.. deadly. It is the nature of the shrink however that it cant handle as big of a vcore boost. So 4.2ghz on e8400 wont be that easy without hitting dangerious voltage, and even then, you may never hit it. Also there are alot of "bad" batches of e8400 coming out recently that arent nearly as good. Best to wait for the e8600 if he wants to try for a higher clock and initial good bins.

Also L2 cache benefits will be shortened at high resolutions. Maybe 3-5% increase, if that, at say 1920x1200+, with less noticeable benefits to the added cache. Mainstream resolutions however do show noticeable benefits.

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#10 marcthpro
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benchmark show the true Dual core e8500 & e8600 oc are a Beast in gaming even not oc with oc it so great
Q9300 + are in software more and must be as well oc to handle well game

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#11 artiedeadat40
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I got my e8400 to 3.825 pretty easily without too much of a boost on the vcore.
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#12 artiedeadat40
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I got my e8400 to 3.825 pretty easily without too much of a boost on the vcore.
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#13 CreasianDevaili
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I got my e8400 to 3.825 pretty easily without too much of a boost on the vcore.artiedeadat40

Same here. I got it at 1.28 vcore on a 24h orthos run. 3.825ghz. I need to lower it and see how low i can get it one of these days. Been too lazy.

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#14 eddy96_1
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i managed to OC mine without changing any settings
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#15 pknyo
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Will this 45mn CPU work on mu 680i to replace my e4400? And with my E4400 @ 3.33ghz and 1333 Mhz FSB will it be a major diffrerence?
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[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

yup

it makes quite a bit of difference, not THAT HUGEEEE, nut u WILL notice it, not to mention, if u got an E4400 to 3.2, u can get an E8400 to at least 4.2

CreasianDevaili

Wolfdales are beasts but they cant be pushed as hard as the 65nm C2D siblings due to vcore being a tad more.. deadly. It is the nature of the shrink however that it cant handle as big of a vcore boost. So 4.2ghz on e8400 wont be that easy without hitting dangerious voltage, and even then, you may never hit it. Also there are alot of "bad" batches of e8400 coming out recently that arent nearly as good. Best to wait for the e8600 if he wants to try for a higher clock and initial good bins.

I've seen reports from posters on forums of some hardware sites of OC's just over 6GHz on E8400's (with extreme cooling, of course).

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#17 GTR2addict
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Will this 45mn CPU work on mu 680i to replace my e4400? And with my E4400 @ 3.33ghz and 1333 Mhz FSB will it be a major diffrerence?pknyo

the wolfdale dual cores work on the 680i, though the yorkfield quads dont, but rly man, ur cpu aint worth being replaced, the only diff between it and the 8400 is the cache, so dont worry about upgradingyet...

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#18 pknyo
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Thanks man guess that $200 going toward a video card, deciding on that outta be real fun.
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Since you've got yours over 3.0ghz it wouldn't make a huge difference in terms of gaming performance at most your looking at an extra 10FPS.

Not only that but upgrading from a Core 2 Duo to a slighter better Core 2 Duo is a huge waste... I would gladly advise you to go for a Q6600 and overclock that to 3.4GHz.

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Since you've got yours over 3.0ghz it wouldn't make a huge difference in terms of gaming performance at most your looking at an extra 10FPS.

Not only that but upgrading from a Core 2 Duo to a slighter better Core 2 Duo is a huge waste... I would gladly advise you to go for a Q6600 and overclock that to 3.4GHz.

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Yeah but 10 fps in Crysis is a huge difference
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#21 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="sadikovic"]

Since you've got yours over 3.0ghz it wouldn't make a huge difference in terms of gaming performance at most your looking at an extra 10FPS.

Not only that but upgrading from a Core 2 Duo to a slighter better Core 2 Duo is a huge waste... I would gladly advise you to go for a Q6600 and overclock that to 3.4GHz.

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Yeah but 10 fps in Crysis is a huge difference

Believe me you wont get an extra 10 FPS's in Crysis! If you get over 5FPS's i will eat my own face.

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#22 swehunt
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[QUOTE="PC_X360"][QUOTE="sadikovic"]

Since you've got yours over 3.0ghz it wouldn't make a huge difference in terms of gaming performance at most your looking at an extra 10FPS.

Not only that but upgrading from a Core 2 Duo to a slighter better Core 2 Duo is a huge waste... I would gladly advise you to go for a Q6600 and overclock that to 3.4GHz.

daytona_178

Yeah but 10 fps in Crysis is a huge difference

Believe me you wont get an extra 10 FPS's in Crysis! If you get over 5FPS's i will eat my own face.

Yeah, 5 extra FPS is even streching it...

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#23 swehunt
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And as the E4400 is at 3ghz, try get 3.2 on it... that would make it very near the E8400 performance.

And the best part :IT's FREE!

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And as the E4400 is at 3ghz, try get 3.2 on it... that would make it very near the E8400 performance.swehunt

Yeah, with that extra money he could get a sweet *** cooler and overclock to 3.5Ghz!

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#25 sadikovic
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[QUOTE="sadikovic"]

Since you've got yours over 3.0ghz it wouldn't make a huge difference in terms of gaming performance at most your looking at an extra 10FPS.

Not only that but upgrading from a Core 2 Duo to a slighter better Core 2 Duo is a huge waste... I would gladly advise you to go for a Q6600 and overclock that to 3.4GHz.

PC_X360

Yeah but 10 fps in Crysis is a huge difference

If an extra 10fps is a good enough of a reason for you to was... I mean spend $200 for then by all means go ahead know ones stopping you.

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[QUOTE="PC_X360"][QUOTE="sadikovic"]

Since you've got yours over 3.0ghz it wouldn't make a huge difference in terms of gaming performance at most your looking at an extra 10FPS.

Not only that but upgrading from a Core 2 Duo to a slighter better Core 2 Duo is a huge waste... I would gladly advise you to go for a Q6600 and overclock that to 3.4GHz.

sadikovic

Yeah but 10 fps in Crysis is a huge difference

If an extra 10fps is a good enough of a reason for you to was... I mean spend $200 for then by all means go ahead know ones stopping you.

I find it funny how people put so much importance in Crysis... i mean c'mon.

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#27 sadikovic
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[QUOTE="sadikovic"][QUOTE="PC_X360"][QUOTE="sadikovic"]

Since you've got yours over 3.0ghz it wouldn't make a huge difference in terms of gaming performance at most your looking at an extra 10FPS.

Not only that but upgrading from a Core 2 Duo to a slighter better Core 2 Duo is a huge waste... I would gladly advise you to go for a Q6600 and overclock that to 3.4GHz.

daytona_178

Yeah but 10 fps in Crysis is a huge difference

If an extra 10fps is a good enough of a reason for you to was... I mean spend $200 for then by all means go ahead know ones stopping you.

I find it funny how people put so much importance in Crysis... i mean c'mon.

Nothing but graphics whores to be perfectly honest with you, most people play crysis with a 8800GT on High and struggle but could easily get 60FPS if they tone it back to medium.

Its quiet sad that someone would waste $200 just for a slight boost in performance for Crysis, and it is just for Crysis becuase his setup at the moment is deffinetely doing 60+fps with every other game and will continue to do so for another for a while.

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[QUOTE="daytona_178"][QUOTE="sadikovic"][QUOTE="PC_X360"][QUOTE="sadikovic"]

Since you've got yours over 3.0ghz it wouldn't make a huge difference in terms of gaming performance at most your looking at an extra 10FPS.

Not only that but upgrading from a Core 2 Duo to a slighter better Core 2 Duo is a huge waste... I would gladly advise you to go for a Q6600 and overclock that to 3.4GHz.

sadikovic

Yeah but 10 fps in Crysis is a huge difference

If an extra 10fps is a good enough of a reason for you to was... I mean spend $200 for then by all means go ahead know ones stopping you.

I find it funny how people put so much importance in Crysis... i mean c'mon.

Nothing but graphics whores to be perfectly honest with you, most people play crysis with a 8800GT on High and struggle but could easily get 60FPS if they tone it back to medium.

Its quiet sad that someone would waste $200 just for a slight boost in performance for Crysis, and it is just for Crysis becuase his setup at the moment is deffinetely doing 60+fps with every other game and will continue to do so for another for a while.

Better off waiting for the Penryn CPU's later this year...they are meant to be 33% better clock for clock to core2duo CPU's!

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[QUOTE="daytona_178"][QUOTE="sadikovic"][QUOTE="PC_X360"][QUOTE="sadikovic"]

Since you've got yours over 3.0ghz it wouldn't make a huge difference in terms of gaming performance at most your looking at an extra 10FPS.

Not only that but upgrading from a Core 2 Duo to a slighter better Core 2 Duo is a huge waste... I would gladly advise you to go for a Q6600 and overclock that to 3.4GHz.

sadikovic

Yeah but 10 fps in Crysis is a huge difference

If an extra 10fps is a good enough of a reason for you to was... I mean spend $200 for then by all means go ahead know ones stopping you.

I find it funny how people put so much importance in Crysis... i mean c'mon.

Nothing but graphics whores to be perfectly honest with you, most people play crysis with a 8800GT on High and struggle but could easily get 60FPS if they tone it back to medium.

Its quiet sad that someone would waste $200 just for a slight boost in performance for Crysis, and it is just for Crysis becuase his setup at the moment is deffinetely doing 60+fps with every other game and will continue to do so for another for a while.

Some of us want 1920x1200 90fps to match our vsync!

However i wouldnt upgrade a cpu for crysis. For a mmorpg, that is multi-threaded, then yeah. Everquest II isnt cpu bound for me anymore at 3.825ghz, and my 8800GT is now holding me back from more stable FPS. So I am getting the 4870x2 2gb, but with additional needs as well, such as the 2gb being very helpful in Video Rendering, along with better stability in Age of Conan.

So for just ONE game, and nothing else, I can kind of agree if that is all its for.