Crossfire > SLI

Currently, the 6000 series of AMD GPUs scale much better in Crossfire than the 500 series of Nvidia GPUs in SLI.

For example, 6970 Tri-Crossfire gives very similar performance to 580 Tri-SLI, but the AMD solution costs approximately $400 less total (for all three GPUs).

You Nvidia fans can deny this all you want, but these are the facts.

Currently, the 6000 series of AMD GPUs scale much better in Crossfire than the 500 series of Nvidia GPUs in SLI.

For example, 6970 Tri-Crossfire gives very similar performance to 580 Tri-SLI, but the AMD solution costs approximately $400 less total (for all three GPUs).

You Nvidia fans can deny this all you want, but these are the facts.

Baurus_1

who cares my GTX 570 can rip through any games i throw at it right now, very high with DX-11 turned on :P

and i think you are in the wrong forums this is not the conolse war forums xD

fanboy trolls :roll:

Fact is that your back spewing AMD fanboyism. And you can take tri GTX 570's and get the results as tri 6970 for the same price range. 04dcarraher

Fact is that your back spewing AMD fanboyism. And you can take tri GTX 570's and get the results as tri 6970 for the same price range. 04dcarraher

but its not like im going to tri SLI anything anyway. thats the point im trying to make who cares if tri 6970 beat a GTX 580 in tri SLI, its not like alot of people will tri SLi/ tri Cross fire those cards anyways.

me, illjust get the best next thing thats out in the market when my GPU begins to struggle.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Fact is that your back spewing AMD fanboyism. And you can take tri GTX 570's and get the results as tri 6970 for the same price range. msfan1289

but its not like im going to tri SLI anything anyway. thats the point im trying to make who cares is a 6970 beat a GTX 580 in SLI, its not like alot of people will tri SLi/ tri Cross fire those cards anyways.

me, illjust get the best next thing thats out in the market when my GPU begins to struggle.

[QUOTE="msfan1289"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Fact is that your back spewing AMD fanboyism. And you can take tri GTX 570's and get the results as tri 6970 for the same price range. Serial-No_3404

but its not like im going to tri SLI anything anyway. thats the point im trying to make who cares is a 6970 beat a GTX 580 in SLI, its not like alot of people will tri SLi/ tri Cross fire those cards anyways.

me, illjust get the best next thing thats out in the market when my GPU begins to struggle.

i was thinking of doing the same thing but i have a few problems.

1. my mobo only has one PCI-e x16 slot

2. my PSU is only 650w with only 2x 6+2 pin connector.

3. my mobo only supports DDR2 RAM, so if i upgrade ill have to get a AM3/ SLI mobo, and DDR3 RAM

4. even if my GTX 570 struggles and want to SLI ill have to look for another GTX 570 and there might be a change that they wont have GTX 570s on sale in that time.

in other words for me SLIing is not worth the money because of the other upgrades ill have to do on the rest of my PC

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Fact is that your back spewing AMD fanboyism. And you can take tri GTX 570's and get the results as tri 6970 for the same price range. Baurus_1

may you please post a link up ill like to take a look at it.

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Fact is that your back spewing AMD fanboyism. And you can take tri GTX 570's and get the results as tri 6970 for the same price range. msfan1289

may you please post a link up ill like to take a look at it.

Currently, the 6000 series of AMD GPUs scale much better in Crossfire than the 500 series of Nvidia GPUs in SLI.

For example, 6970 Tri-Crossfire gives very similar performance to 580 Tri-SLI, but the AMD solution costs approximately $400 less total (for all three GPUs).

You Nvidia fans can deny this all you want, but these are the facts.

Baurus_1

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="msfan1289"]

but its not like im going to tri SLI anything anyway. thats the point im trying to make who cares is a 6970 beat a GTX 580 in SLI, its not like alot of people will tri SLi/ tri Cross fire those cards anyways.

me, illjust get the best next thing thats out in the market when my GPU begins to struggle.

msfan1289

i was thinking of doing the same thing but i have a few problems.

1. my mobo only has one PCI-e x16 slot

2. my PSU is only 650w with only 2x 6+2 pin connector.

3. my mobo only supports DDR2 RAM, so if i upgrade ill have to get a AM3/ SLI mobo, and DDR3 RAM

4. even if my GTX 570 struggles and want to SLI ill have to look for another GTX 570 and there might be a change that they wont have GTX 570s on sale in that time.

in other words for me SLIing is not worth the money because of the other upgrades ill have to do on the rest of my PC

[QUOTE="msfan1289"]

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"] I'm going to SLI when my card starts to struggle. Once the SLI struggles I'll get whatever card is the beefiest.Serial-No_3404

i was thinking of doing the same thing but i have a few problems.

1. my mobo only has one PCI-e x16 slot

2. my PSU is only 650w with only 2x 6+2 pin connector.

3. my mobo only supports DDR2 RAM, so if i upgrade ill have to get a AM3/ SLI mobo, and DDR3 RAM

4. even if my GTX 570 struggles and want to SLI ill have to look for another GTX 570 and there might be a change that they wont have GTX 570s on sale in that time.

in other words for me SLIing is not worth the money because of the other upgrades ill have to do on the rest of my PC

i so envy you

This is a review i found showing tri-sli 570 vs trifire 6970 http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1084/pg18/xfx-radeon-6970-and-radeon-6950-graphics-card-review-3-way-crossfire-eyefinity-vs-sli.html

Only two games on 3 monitor settings, but i don't feel like finding anymore benchmarks.

Go search for it on Google. I don't feel like looking for the tomshardware.com article right now. Anyways, the 6970 scaled much better in Tri-CF than the 570 in Tri-SLI. And other articles on HardOCP showed that 6970 Tri-CF performs VERY similarly to 580 Tri-SLI.Baurus_1

Why should we search, your the making the claims, so provide evdence, or we justassume you wrong. Also again, this isn't SW, leave your fanboyish comments at the door.

AMD is horrible at releasing profiles for CFX though. Nvidia isn't.

Oh great, another one of these.

GTX 580 > TC.

End topic.

Fanboys are taking over :?

Currently, the 6000 series of AMD GPUs scale much better in Crossfire than the 500 series of Nvidia GPUs in SLI.

For example, 6970 Tri-Crossfire gives very similar performance to 580 Tri-SLI, but the AMD solution costs approximately $400 less total (for all three GPUs).

You Nvidia fans can deny this all you want, but these are the facts.

Baurus_1

I'm currently building a new pc and I was considering a multi gpu setup. Then I got a (methinks) real good tip from the nice ppl here on the PC hardware forum:

Why waste your money on multiple cards, when you can just get a good one now, play most stuff maxed out for the coming year and a half, then take it out and put in a brand new future one.

In any case, my last rig had 2 Radeon4850's and over the years I never (!) encountered a game that had a significant perfomance boost with the crossfire turned on. So why bother..

In any case, my last rig had 2 Radeon4850's and over the years I never (!) encountered a game that had a significant perfomance boost with the crossfire turned on. So why bother..

ecoolen

AMD is horrible at releasing profiles for CFX though. Nvidia isn't.

configme

Oh great, another one of these.

GTX 580 > TC.

End topic.

SPYDER0416

I'm currently building a new pc and I was considering a multi gpu setup. Then I got a (methinks) real good tip from the nice ppl here on the PC hardware forum:

Why waste your money on multiple cards, when you can just get a good one now, play most stuff maxed out for the coming year and a half, then take it out and put in a brand new future one.

In any case, my last rig had 2 Radeon4850's and over the years I never (!) encountered a game that had a significant perfomance boost with the crossfire turned on. So why bother..

ecoolen

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Oh great, another one of these.

GTX 580 > TC.

End topic.

i5750at4Ghz

Who on earth uses 3 GTX 580s?

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Oh great, another one of these.

GTX 580 > TC.

End topic.

evildead6789

[QUOTE="ecoolen"]

I'm currently building a new pc and I was considering a multi gpu setup. Then I got a (methinks) real good tip from the nice ppl here on the PC hardware forum:

Why waste your money on multiple cards, when you can just get a good one now, play most stuff maxed out for the coming year and a half, then take it out and put in a brand new future one.

In any case, my last rig had 2 Radeon4850's and over the years I never (!) encountered a game that had a significant perfomance boost with the crossfire turned on. So why bother..

i5750at4Ghz

I always go for the strongest single card and then Multi GPU later down the line, its like the people who bought 5770s, they arent all that great now and havent lasted that long, not to mention if you get a game that glitches with multi GPU you are screwed and stuck with one weak card.V4LENT1NE

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Oh great, another one of these.

GTX 580 > TC.

End topic.

evildead6789

Lets see how well the 6000 series would be scaling 1-2 years from now when they wont have any driver support, AMD is known to dump support for cards faster than nvidia.

And secondly the greatest drawback for crossfire is the inability to run physx, who the hell spends $1000 on GPU's and not want to have every single setting a game has to offer? For single cards I can understand physx being less important but for 2 high end cards or better it really becomes a huge bummer for AMD.

Lets see how well the 6000 series would be scaling 1-2 years from now when they wont have any driver support, AMD is known to dump support for cards faster than nvidia.

And secondly the greatest drawback for crossfire is the inability to run physx, who the hell spends $1000 on GPU's and not want to have every single setting a game has to offer? For single cards I can understand physx being less important but for 2 high end cards or better it really becomes a huge bummer for AMD.

Gambler_3

lol physx, most people here don't even know what that is, and nvidia is on the brink of dropping support since most devs are jumping on opengl. It was nvidias fault for making it a propriety software that nobody else can use without a license for it.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

Lets see how well the 6000 series would be scaling 1-2 years from now when they wont have any driver support, AMD is known to dump support for cards faster than nvidia.

And secondly the greatest drawback for crossfire is the inability to run physx, who the hell spends $1000 on GPU's and not want to have every single setting a game has to offer? For single cards I can understand physx being less important but for 2 high end cards or better it really becomes a huge bummer for AMD.

blaznwiipspman1

lol physx, most people here don't even know what that is, and nvidia is on the brink of dropping support since most devs are jumping on opengl. It was nvidias fault for making it a propriety software that nobody else can use without a license for it.

so let me ask you guys thing. after posting up the things ill need to do to just get a AMD/SLI m obo, should i just rebuild my whole PC by

1. mobo that supports AM3,SLI, DDR3

2. get DDR3 RAM

3. a 700w-750w PSU with 4 6+2 PCI-e pin connectors

and when the GTX 570 begins to struggle in a few years get a 2nd GTX 570 and make a SLI setup and just keep on gaming till both cant run anything anymore?

in other words is it worth the money?

also keep in mind in a few years there might not be GTX 570s for sale on newegg because they might be discontinued due to new cards out in the market.

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

Lets see how well the 6000 series would be scaling 1-2 years from now when they wont have any driver support, AMD is known to dump support for cards faster than nvidia.

And secondly the greatest drawback for crossfire is the inability to run physx, who the hell spends $1000 on GPU's and not want to have every single setting a game has to offer? For single cards I can understand physx being less important but for 2 high end cards or better it really becomes a huge bummer for AMD.

evildead6789

lol physx, most people here don't even know what that is, and nvidia is on the brink of dropping support since most devs are jumping on opengl. It was nvidias fault for making it a propriety software that nobody else can use without a license for it.

Doesnt matter what you have to say about nvidia's move for a priopriety software, fact is there are quite a few games which have some fancy graphical effects which can only be experienced with an nvidia card. If this fact isnt important to someone spending a grand on graphics cards then I dont know what is.

lol physx, most people here don't even know what that is, and nvidia is on the brink of dropping support since most devs are jumping on opengl. It was nvidias fault for making it a propriety software that nobody else can use without a license for it.

blaznwiipspman1

1. Physx is free, anyone can use it.

2. Nvidia is not considering dropping physx. It is very popular and successful, multiplatform physics engine with over 300 games using it.

3. Devs aren't shifting to OpenGL, and not sure the relevance even if that was true, you can use Physx with OpenGL

4. Most people don't know the names of any physics engine, whether it be Havok, Bullet, Physx, etc. I'm not sure what your point is

5. In regards to evildead6789, there are a bunch of recent and upcoming games that have Hardware Physx acceleration. Off the top of my head: Batman Arkham City, Metro Last Light, Red Orchestra 2, Rock of Ages, Alice Madness Returns, ARMA3.

[QUOTE="configme"]

AMD is horrible at releasing profiles for CFX though. Nvidia isn't.

evildead6789

Really, a AMD sponsered product did well with AMD cards?

I've had multiple ATi/AMD setups and I know how long it can take for profiles to come out that actually boost performance properly. They've been getting better recently, but it's still not as good as Nvidia.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

lol physx, most people here don't even know what that is, and nvidia is on the brink of dropping support since most devs are jumping on opengl. It was nvidias fault for making it a propriety software that nobody else can use without a license for it.

Gambler_3

Doesnt matter what you have to say about nvidia's move for a priopriety software, fact is there are quite a few games which have some fancy graphical effects which can only be experienced with an nvidia card. If this fact isnt important to someone spending a grand on graphics cards then I dont know what is.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="evildead6789"] true most games don't use physx and newer games don't use it at all. And even then the games that do use physx are games that aren't really taxing on the hardware. I maxed out every game that passed me that was supporting physx.evildead6789

Doesnt matter what you have to say about nvidia's move for a priopriety software, fact is there are quite a few games which have some fancy graphical effects which can only be experienced with an nvidia card. If this fact isnt important to someone spending a grand on graphics cards then I dont know what is.