Dark Messiah of Might and Magic

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#1 TugboatTheGreat
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Is the game worth playing? I was watching some videos on youtube and it looks freaking sweet. The fighting looks pretty in depth and technical. I also like how you can use the environment to your advantage. If its a good game I'll probably buy it. I just want to hear some opinions first. Thanks!
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#2 Teuf_
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Believe me, it looks a lot better than it really is. The melee combat is cool and the graphics are sweet, but it got repetitive and boring for me after an hour or so of playing.

Make sure you give the demo a whirl before taking the plunge.
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#3 c02z
Member since 2005 • 1840 Posts

to me its not an rpg, it seem like action fps with added with a bit of rpg element.

you kill enemy, go to next area , loading..... kill enemy again bah blah blah blah . your skill will raise in some circumstances which add a little spice to the gameplay. getting old and boring after 30 min later

if you want free roam rpg then go look somewhere else, but if you want just some quick action fps style with a bit of rpg then its right for you.

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#4 TugboatTheGreat
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Well I don't know. The game looks really awesome and i love the rag-doll physics with the bodies. I also like how the fighting is somewhat realistic. And the whole arrow with a rope attached to it thing.
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#5 dunamistheou
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It's boring and buggy. It came with my graphics card, else, I never would have bought it. :P
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#6 koza_76
Member since 2005 • 338 Posts
I bought it for like 40 bucks, it's droppped it's price on steam recently I think.It's ok, I enjoyed playing it. The single player lasted me about 8 or so hours, and I found it easy. Couple parts in the game were hard, like a (spoiler) one on one duel with a orc chief. The combat is mostly fun not at all that challenging. Most puzzles are fun in the game. Bottom line it's a fun adventure game. The multiplayer is good, but there are barely any good servers, mostly kids playing on stacked teams, like 12 vs 4. I only experienced one bug with it, the game would crash during a cutscene between chapters, so I just skipped that one cutscene. Overall it was fun. That's it.
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#7 RK-Mara
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I bought the Collector's Edition for 52 euros and I actually don't regret it (M&M fan).
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#8 Daytona_178
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Well I don't know. The game looks really awesome and i love the rag-doll physics with the bodies. I also like how the fighting is somewhat realistic. And the whole arrow with a rope attached to it thing.TugboatTheGreat

Just download the demo! Simple.

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#9 gtarmanrob
Member since 2006 • 1206 Posts

dude, get it. best FPS/RPG i have ever played. i've played through it like 3 times. the hardest difficulty is so fun. if u got a sick computer and can run this game on everything maxed with 6xAA and 16XAF, looks ****ing awesome.

get it. do it...do it.

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#10 adamfazai
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I have them game andIam near to finish it. It's a cool game, Regarding the high time for loading and intensive RAM comsuming (Even if u have 4GB of ram it will use all of it, You better know how to change some parameters of its Source Engin). also do not forget to increase your virtual memory)

The story is cool. Combat system is very cool, after playing it I really think how good it would beif Oblivion fighting system was like it!

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#11 chaser_slovenia
Member since 2005 • 398 Posts
I liked it very much. It's a beautiful mix of action, adventure and RPG, with intense combats and good technology. Well, worth playing.
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#12 t3h_MarK
Member since 2006 • 363 Posts

It's short and sweet really, got me sticked to my chair for a good 15 hours straight. Graphics are nice, much less tuter than in the demo. I was really pleasantly surprised.

Multiplayer is where the game really shines IMO, it's a M&M ET ripoff (though ET is awesome so it's good). Crusade mode sometimes turn into a TK fest because of stupid fireball mages

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#13 belboz
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I aslo liked the game. I never tried te multiplayer play, put the single player campaign was interesting. Nice physics
and a decent story.

I tried the demo on my old PC and hated it. After I got new HW, the demo was smooth, even at high details, and I bought the game then. So: If you have a old rig, try the demo first.

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#14 deactivated-6031a5a640140
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I have to agree with the liked it group. I thought it was a fun game with awesome graphics. Takes a bit to load like they say but you want graphics you need load time.

Anyway heres a vote fot getting it. I think it's only 19.95 through Steam right now.

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#15 19chevelle72
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good game, will last you 10-15 hours depending on how fast you go through. great Graphics and gameplay is fun. One thing though, to make the game last longer, the first time I went through as a thief/fighter. I tried Stealth kills, and used environment to my advantage. The 2nd time I went as a mage, and honestly it was a different ballgame.
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#16 gtarmanrob
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I have them game andIam near to finish it. It's a cool game, Regarding the high time for loading and intensive RAM comsuming (Even if u have 4GB of ram it will use all of it, You better know how to change some parameters of its Source Engin). also do not forget to increase your virtual memory)

The story is cool. Combat system is very cool, after playing it I really think how good it would beif Oblivion fighting system was like it!

adamfazai

haha dude you must have downloaded it illegally. coz in the update via steam (if u paid for it)that came out a week or so after release, they fixed the memory leaking issue. i run the game on everythin maxed out with 4xAA and 2gb of ram and it runs sweet as, can play it for hours straight. have since moved to 4gb of ram. just stays smooth longer.

plus 19.95 cant go wrong. i paid 34.95 when it was released. and that was only coz it was a pre-order special. was 49.95 for a long time after that.

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#17 adamfazai
Member since 2003 • 37 Posts

I just have the original version. I do not upgrade my game usually.

Just I know how to work with Engin Paras.

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#18 frizzyman0292
Member since 2007 • 2855 Posts
I was excited about the game then i heard so many bad things about it so I never picked it up. I will have to try the demo.
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#19 Rockin_MixMasta
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I'm not going to read what other people commented because I know majority will be negative.

I bought the game when it was about $24 on Steam. I still play it on/off. The online community for the game is dead, but the idea was there. The single player was alot of fun, more than I actually expected. People complain about how buggy it was, but as PC gamers still fail to realize that games are patched for a reason.

I'de get it. It's a bargain, and a decent game.

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#20 wallydog63
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I didn't get it either, at least right off the bat, cause of what reviewers said. I'm here to tell you they are dead wrong, and those saying it's boring and repetitive, get bored with there wives or girls friends after acouple of hours as well. Graphics are great , and once you get used to the fighting, it's pretty sweet as well. I finally bought the game(collectors edition) after being in a forum just like this listening to people say how good it was, and how screwed the reviewers were. I promptly went back and thanked everyone on that thread. The games cheap enough($19.99 for collectors here) that you'ld probably kick yourself if you don't get it. It is a really good game. I hope they make more of them. The people that bad mouth this game are probably owners of the Sims Pets and the like. Try it, youll like it.
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#21 bachilders
Member since 2005 • 1430 Posts
it is a pretty fun game, it does get repetitive, but its good for some stress relieving, i wouldnt pay more than 25 bucks for it though
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#22 JP_Russell
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Yes, it is worth playing. I don't love the game, but I like it. I have to agree with the poster who said it looks better than it really is. The videos make it look like the combat flows so naturally that there aren't any frustrations. Unfortunately, this isn't the case. Still, it is quite fun, and while the combat isn't quite what the videos make it seem, it's still on a higher level than many other games' combat is.

The game tries to pull off a good RPG element, but definitely fails at that. The game is very linear, the items that can be carried aren't varried quite a lotfor an RPG (The few books you can pick up have little to no in-game need, and aren't even long enough [one page] to justify carrying them around to read for leisure. There aren't very many magic rings you can wear, and some have magical properties that are easily trumped by the few other rings. The weapons are cool, but the skill requirements for some of them don't make sense given the class they're supposed to be specific to, or don't have very well-thought-out damage stats for their requirements.).

Speaking of the skills, they seem a little unorganized in some ways. For instance, the game seems to make you want to see four classes you can work toward emphasizing, each having their primary weapon type: warrior, mage, assassin, and archer; the corresponding weapon types being swords, staffs, daggers, and bows (though all can use any of the weapon types). But the skills for archer are very few, and in practice, the archer just seems like something you can choose to include as a sub-ability to the other three classes. Not to mention the mechanics to the bow are poorly done. Getting headshots can be overly difficult, since the hitbox to the rest the body of the enemies seems protrude out in front of the head. The arrow seems to move in an arch no matter what angle you aim the bow, making even slightly longer distance shots feel like you're aiming tiny artillery, trying to get the arrow to come down at a point on your target, not straight toward the point. And of course, there's the ever-annoying moment when you have your bow drawn, and your character steps off of a two-foot-high ledge, which qualifies as a fall in this game, so he lets go of his hold on the bow, making him have draw the bow again.

The mage class is the most well-organized for skills, but some of the staff weapons require skills of the warrior. The warrior is the most straight-forward and easy class to play in both application and skillset. The assassin can be a pain in the butt to play sometimes, and in my opinion, could use quite a few more skills that help in combat in some way.

There are also certain skills you can choose to unlock that are not very useful in the game, but require a considerable amount of points, such as the skill to lockpick locks, where most places or chests that can only be accessed by lockpicking have nothing truly valuable. Another skill, the poison resistance skill, isn't really needed, since an attack from an enemy that poisons will kill you until you drink an antidote anyway, and the best way to fight poisoning enemies is to never get hit by them (which, with practise, isn't that hard). In the case that you aren't careful to not get hit by them, and you need the poison resistance to stay alive when they hit you repeatedly, chances are you're surrounded so badly at that point that you're as good as dead anyway.

Another of the most annoying aspects of the combat is that your character cannot move backwards quickly at all. He can only walk (very slowly) backwards. This means that if you have to retreat from your enemy, you have to either turn around and run, orstrafe your way back. I can understand making backward movement slower, but come on, at least allow you to trot backwards.

Some of the voice-acting could be much better, too (some of it is reminiscent of the voices from Far Cry, for example), but that's no big deal for me.

That's all I'll say that's bad about it for now. What are some good things about it? The first time you backstab an enemy as an assassin will be one of the coolest animations ever (actually, you're stabbing just behind the collarbone down into the heart). The hand animations to the magic abilities alone make them awesome, and it's pretty cool as a mage to quickly switch between magic abilities in combat.

The combat, while not perfect and smooth-flowing like the videos suggest, is still fun when mastered. Daggers can be a little difficult to use in head-oncombat, but with some slight dabbling in warrior skills as well as assassin, their ability to hit very quickly can be very deadly if you can land every hit. Swords are the powerhouse weapons, with the ability to deliver multiple types of power attacks that are much more useful than those of the staff or daggers, and to be coupled with a shield, which can block arrows and won't ever be overwhelmed by too many melee hits from an enemy unlike just blocking with the blade. The staff is arguably the most reliable weapon, though it certainly won't seem like it until you master it. The first successful hit you land on an enemy with the staff stuns them for a couple seconds, and the second, provided they are still stunned, knocks them off their feet. In this way, you can fight three or more enemies without taking a single scratch by just keeping them off their feet constantly, hitting them while their down, eventually beating them to death. The downside is that it doesn't do very much damage, and has power attacks which don't land hits very accurately.

The enemies aren't quite as varied as I'd like, but it's not a bad selection, with orcs, goblins, human guards, necromancers, vampire knights, zombies, ghouls, giant spiders (and a couple normal-sized spiders), and a few cyclopses, liches, lightning-breathing dragons, a giant worm, and an even more giant spideras bosses.

The story isn't too bad, though many Might and Magic fans complain about the fact that the game has nothing to do with the Might and Magic universe whatsoever. Still, it's fairly interesting, and has a nice twist to it.

Overall, the game is good. It's not fantastic or even great, but it's good, and it is worth playing and enjoying.