Deus Ex..

So I never played the original Deus Ex. Saw there was -75% deal on steam and got it for 2 euro.

My question is:

Does it hold up well for 12 year old game ? Like should I start playing it right now because its that damn good or is it something that can wait ?

jiz.

lol, you don't want to play it do you?

lol, you don't want to play it do you?

tanerb

What ? I'm just asking if it holds up well. Its a 12 year old game.

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lol, you don't want to play it do you?

beganoo

What ? I'm just asking if it holds up well. Its a 12 year old game.

So I never played the original Deus Ex. Saw there was -75% deal on steam and got it for 2 euro.

My question is:

Does it hold up well for 12 year old game ? Like should I start playing it right now because its that damn good or is it something that can wait ?

jiz.

beganoo

It's my favorite game of all time so I'm biased... I can't even see the graphics anymore... Regardless you should play it. Many many times...

Does it hold up well for 12 year old game ? Like should I start playing it right now because its that damn good or is it something that can wait ?

jiz.

beganoo

You're either going to love it, or you're going to hate it. It really depends on how much emphasis you put on either its cons or its pros. Because of this, some say it has aged badly, wile some say it's the greatest game of all times.

- Cons:

• Mediocre AI
• Clunky FPS mechanics
• Laughable voice acting for some non-important characters

- Pros:

• Interesting conspiracy story
• Multitude of ways to progress trough any given situation
• Immersive cyber-punk atmosphere
• Excellent soundtrack
• Excellent level design

The graphics themselfs look bad, but if you add the New Vision mod (for vastly improved textures), Project HDTP (remodeled objects) and the Direct3D 10 renderer , the game will look really good, especially at 1080p. Oh, and the UI mod , for the GUI to not look ugly at high resolutions.

I say it's one of the greatest games of all times. I have no problem with its AI, the graphics look beautiful with all the mods in place, and i have not played it as a FPS.

So I never played the original Deus Ex. Saw there was -75% deal on steam and got it for 2 euro.

My question is:

Does it hold up well for 12 year old game ? Like should I start playing it right now because its that damn good or is it something that can wait ?

jiz.

beganoo

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

So I never played the original Deus Ex. Saw there was -75% deal on steam and got it for 2 euro.

My question is:

Does it hold up well for 12 year old game ? Like should I start playing it right now because its that damn good or is it something that can wait ?

jiz.

dakan45

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Does it hold up well for 12 year old game ? Like should I start playing it right now because its that damn good or is it something that can wait ?

jiz.

Lucianu

You're either going to love it, or you're going to hate it. It really depends on how much emphasis you put on either its cons or its pros. Because of this, some say it has aged badly, wile some say it's the greatest game of all times.

- Cons:

• Mediocre AI
• Clunky FPS mechanics
• Laughable voice acting for some non-important characters

- Pros:

• Interesting conspiracy story
• Multitude of ways to progress trough any given situation
• Immersive cyber-punk atmosphere
• Excellent soundtrack
• Excellent level design

The graphics themselfs look bad, but if you add the New Vision mod (for vastly improved textures), Project HDTP (remodeled objects) and the Direct3D 10 renderer , the game will look really good, especially at 1080p. Oh, and the UI mod , for the GUI to not look ugly at high resolutions.

I say it's one of the greatest games of all times. I have no problem with its AI, the graphics look beautiful with all the mods in place, and i have not played it as a FPS.

Well I played it for 3 hours now and i'm getting in to it.For a 12 year old game its pretty damn good.Looks like it has a lot of depth to it.

+ It helps I loved Deus Ex HR.

Oh and the graphics don't bother me that much.Yeah, I guess I'm kind used to eye candy with this gen and all but I've been gaming for quite some time and some of my favorite games like Max Payne and Half Life had graphics pretty similar to Deux Ex.I know how PC games looked back in the day.

And I'm definitely not one of the kids thats been gaming for like 5 years max and thinks:

1. Everything has to look like gears/uncharted/crysis.

2. Graphics > Gameplay

The game isn't an FPS. It is an RPG. Dont listen to the people complaining about the shooting. You need to put points into shooting before you can do anything good.

The graphics themselfs look bad, but if you add the New Vision mod (for vastly improved textures), Project HDTP (remodeled objects) and the Direct3D 10 renderer , the game will look really good, especially at 1080p. Oh, and the UI mod , for the GUI to not look ugly at high resolutions.

I say it's one of the greatest games of all times. I have no problem with its AI, the graphics look beautiful with all the mods in place, and i have not played it as a FPS.

Lucianu

It is good you are getting into it, because you have about 20+ hours left of gameplay. The game is really long, and it is something you need to get into. Note that you will get many more Augs in Hong Kong which will make the gameplay more satisfying. There were a bunch of things that i didnt understand about the game that made playing it more frustrating, along with sometimes unclear objectives as to what you are supposed to do. just stick with it. tons of fun

Overall it is easily in my top5 games of all time. Favorite singleplayer game.

The game is great.

Go play it. Don't wait. Do it now.

I don't think the game looks that bad. As for the gameplay, yeah it easily holds up.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

The graphics themselfs look bad, but if you add the New Vision mod (for vastly improved textures), Project HDTP (remodeled objects) and the Direct3D 10 renderer , the game will look really good, especially at 1080p. Oh, and the UI mod , for the GUI to not look ugly at high resolutions.

I say it's one of the greatest games of all times. I have no problem with its AI, the graphics look beautiful with all the mods in place, and i have not played it as a FPS.

ZimpanX

I lol'ed at this: "A little mod that started off as an effort to get the damn laser sight to turn on automatically". That mod sounds pretty neat. Actually so do all the others. Deus Ex is one of my fav games but I've never tried it with mods...

The first few hours are probably the most rough, so if you can start getting your skills right, learning the controls and mechanics, you can get into it well. I'd say play it now before time goes on and it becomes even more archaic, especially since its already considered one of the most dated games right now in terms of playablity.

I bought it because of the deal and have just started playing. I am enjoying it and I havent modded the game at all. Yeah its graphics are a bit dated but who cares? Its a great game.

The first few hours are probably the most rough, so if you can start getting your skills right, learning the controls and mechanics, you can get into it well. I'd say play it now before time goes on and it becomes even more archaic, especially since its already considered one of the most dated games right now in terms of playablity.

SPYDER0416

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

The first few hours are probably the most rough, so if you can start getting your skills right, learning the controls and mechanics, you can get into it well. I'd say play it now before time goes on and it becomes even more archaic, especially since its already considered one of the most dated games right now in terms of playablity.

Elann2008

Yeah, there are a lot of games with timeless graphics or at least graphics that do an incredible job of not pulling you out of the game at hand. Deus Ex is not one of those games.

It does hold up well, if you are able to look past the fact that it is a 12 year old game and so it is showing its age.

I played it and beat it for the first time just last year. I thought it was one of the best games I've ever played, and I'm planning on doing another playthrough after my exams are finished.

My Favorite moment occured on probably my 10th or so playthrough...Spoiler below (Highlight text if you can't see it)

SPOILER

The moment in NY when the agents are raiding your apartment and Paul (your bro) tells you to get out of there, go out the window and escape to the roof. I did this time and time again without even thinking about. I simply assumed that it was a triggered event meaning that the agetns storm the room when you just leave the window making the moment "cinemtic and exciting". WRONG! I had no idea you can stay and fight and save Paul which in tern impacts much of the story going forward. I was mindblown and shocked that it took me as many playthroughs as that to figure it out.

Best game I ever played...

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Does it hold up well for 12 year old game ? Like should I start playing it right now because its that damn good or is it something that can wait ?

jiz.

Lucianu

You're either going to love it, or you're going to hate it. It really depends on how much emphasis you put on either its cons or its pros. Because of this, some say it has aged badly, wile some say it's the greatest game of all times.

- Cons:

• Mediocre AI
• Clunky FPS mechanics
• Laughable voice acting for some non-important characters

- Pros:

• Interesting conspiracy story
• Multitude of ways to progress trough any given situation
• Immersive cyber-punk atmosphere
• Excellent soundtrack
• Excellent level design

The graphics themselfs look bad, but if you add the New Vision mod (for vastly improved textures), Project HDTP (remodeled objects) and the Direct3D 10 renderer , the game will look really good, especially at 1080p. Oh, and the UI mod , for the GUI to not look ugly at high resolutions.

I say it's one of the greatest games of all times. I have no problem with its AI, the graphics look beautiful with all the mods in place, and i have not played it as a FPS.

Awesome man. Thanks for that. I tried Deus ex before but couldnt get past the dated graphics. I'll have to try these mods.

Visually, it's obviously very outdated. Some of the voice acting is really **** some of it is actually pretty good. The soundtrack is incredible, even though it's old school. But honestly the gameplay is ageless. You just have to put some effort into getting into it at first, and you'll be hooked.

I'd say play it now before time goes on and it becomes even more archaic.

SPYDER0416

Except for the cons i mentioned which have always ben cons since it was released (there were games with much better AI, FPS elements and graphics in 2000, and before 2000) i can't seem to find anything 'archaic' about Deus Ex. Wether you like the game or not, is solely dependent on the importance you put on either its cons, or its pros. Then we consider the fact that the hinder of old gameplay mechanics is absolutely subjective aswell.

Ayway i don't think that's even possible, because graphic mods built by the community will also just become more advanced with time (ex. wen the HDTP is finished, and all models are replaced, then, it'll be infinitely more appealing to the eye then it already does with current mods).

The game already looks really good, modded. I don't know why anyone would play the game vanilla-wise, wen they have the choice to significantly improve the graphics.

I would also add Shifter to that list of mods. Makes the game a lot more playable imo.

ZimpanX

There's also a huge mod with elements from Shifter and other gameplay mods, which also add new weapon models (which look really good).I found it on the Offtopic Productions forum.

But i didn't attempt to add it, because it's a unholy pain in the ass to make it work. I'm waiting for the HDTP to be finished, which will replace all models in the game, including weapons, characters, every single object no matter how insignificant or small.

Wen it's finished, the game will look ridiculously better.

[QUOTE="ZimpanX"]

I would also add Shifter to that list of mods. Makes the game a lot more playable imo.

Lucianu

There's also a huge mod with elements from Shifter and other gameplay mods, which also add new weapon models (which look really good).I found it on the Offtopic Productions forum.

But i didn't attempt to add it, because it's a unholy pain in the ass to make it work. I'm waiting for the HDTP to be finished, which will replace all models in the game, including weapons, characters, every single object no matter how insignificant or small.

Wen it's finished, the game will look ridiculously better.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Does it hold up well for 12 year old game ? Like should I start playing it right now because its that damn good or is it something that can wait ?

jiz.

Lucianu

You're either going to love it, or you're going to hate it. It really depends on how much emphasis you put on either its cons or its pros. Because of this, some say it has aged badly, wile some say it's the greatest game of all times.

- Cons:

• Mediocre AI
• Clunky FPS mechanics
• Laughable voice acting for some non-important characters

- Pros:

• Interesting conspiracy story
• Multitude of ways to progress trough any given situation
• Immersive cyber-punk atmosphere
• Excellent soundtrack
• Excellent level design

The graphics themselfs look bad, but if you add the New Vision mod (for vastly improved textures), Project HDTP (remodeled objects) and the Direct3D 10 renderer , the game will look really good, especially at 1080p. Oh, and the UI mod , for the GUI to not look ugly at high resolutions.

I say it's one of the greatest games of all times. I have no problem with its AI, the graphics look beautiful with all the mods in place, and i have not played it as a FPS.

Wait what? so they finished the upgrades... Awesome!

I have the original Deus Ex on my STeam account from a sale 2 years ago. Been waiting for them to finish these ^^ until I went through it (and I wanted to go through it before the new one) I remember you and I had a convo on here about them still working on it.

Do these have any issues with the Steam version? I must get around to this quickly.

EDIT: I see the HDTP project isn't finished yet, so I will hold off a bit more until they finish it. I have other games to work on, unless I find out they aren't working on the HDTP anymore. Then I will just grab what mods I can for it to make it look better, then play it that way.

Well I've spend some time with the game now.Around 8 hours, just got in to Hong Kong and I must say I'm loving it. I'm enjoying it more even then games like Mass Effect 3 surprisingly enough... but then again I do like to explore, figure things out for myself, manage my inventory all the time, have any time save system and actually put some thought it to upgrading my chacrter/weapons. Story is very intreaging too.

Man this game must have been the S**T wen it first came out.

jiz.

Well I've spend some time with the game now.Around 8 hours, just got in to Hong Kong and I must say I'm loving it. I'm enjoying it more even then games like Mass Effect 3 surprisingly enough... but then again I do like to explore, figure things out for myself, manage my inventory all the time, have any time save system and actually put some thought it to upgrading my chacrter/weapons. Story is very intreaging too.

Man this game must have been the S**T wen it first came out.

jiz.

beganoo

+1

I have 2 copies of Deus EX on disk I bought brand new in their original box, one of which is the GOTY edition. Also bought the GOTY edition thru STEAM about a year ago at a dirt cheap price. ..It was really something at the time of it's release and always will be one of my favorites...

One thing I don't understand though is about another game that came out around that same period as DEUS EX by the name of System Shock 2, that game was just as highly regarded by critics and doesn't seem to get mentioned nearly as often as DEUS EX....

Well I've spend some time with the game now.Around 8 hours, just got in to Hong Kong and I must say I'm loving it. I'm enjoying it more even then games like Mass Effect 3 surprisingly enough... but then again I do like to explore, figure things out for myself, manage my inventory all the time, have any time save system and actually put some thought it to upgrading my chacrter/weapons. Story is very intreaging too.

Man this game must have been the S**T wen it first came out.

jiz.

beganoo

So I beat it, :) Pretty damn good game.

Kinda dragged a littel bit for me near the end tho.Its maybe because I like to explore the entire levels, get all the items, find all the ways to the objective, read a lot of the stuff ect. ect. I guess the game was a bit "too long" for my playstyle with these type of games.Steam says I've played it for 40 hours.

Also I played it on normal and the game gets very easy halfway through wen you upgrade a lot of your s**t and then a complete cakewalk 2/3 in to the game wen you get even more upgrades. Think that added to "too long/dragged" thing for me.

Think those are pretty much my main issues with the game.Yeah there are other nitpicks like some of the voice acting ect ect but those are easily ignorable .

Great game to play now and it must have been just amazing 12 years ago.

PS. Spoiler:

Like the helios ending the best. :>

Oh and one question, isn't there some sort of secret 4th ending where you can join Bob whats hes face... just seemed to me there should be.

Hows invisible war btw ? Heard people don't like it as much as the 1st one.. why is that ?

jiz.

I see the HDTP project isn't finished yet, so I will hold off a bit more until they finish it. I have other games to work on, unless I find out they aren't working on the HDTP anymore. Then I will just grab what mods I can for it to make it look better, then play it that way.

Lach0121

HDTP is still active, no doubt, because the guys working on it have said so on several ocasions recently. The reason why it's so slow, well, you can check the HDTP section on offtopic productions forums so you can read. At least New Vision is finished. :P

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I see the HDTP project isn't finished yet, so I will hold off a bit more until they finish it. I have other games to work on, unless I find out they aren't working on the HDTP anymore. Then I will just grab what mods I can for it to make it look better, then play it that way.

Lucianu

HDTP is still active, no doubt, because the guys working on it have said so on several ocasions recently. The reason why it's so slow, well, you can check the HDTP section on offtopic productions forums so you can read. At least New Vision is finished. :P

Then I will wait a bit longer.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Well I've spend some time with the game now.Around 8 hours, just got in to Hong Kong and I must say I'm loving it. I'm enjoying it more even then games like Mass Effect 3 surprisingly enough... but then again I do like to explore, figure things out for myself, manage my inventory all the time, have any time save system and actually put some thought it to upgrading my chacrter/weapons. Story is very intreaging too.

Man this game must have been the S**T wen it first came out.

jiz.

nutcrackr

Hows invisible war btw ? Heard people don't like it as much as the 1st one.. why is that ?

jiz.

beganoo

Hows invisible war btw ? Heard people don't like it as much as the 1st one.. why is that ?

jiz.

beganoo

I have to say that Invisible War is pretty bad unfortunately. Here's a few main points that I recall not liking about the game.

- Awful art design
- Broken AI
- Awkward controls

ZimpanX

from my experience, those apply to the first one too :|