Deus Ex: HR- I don't get it...

They made all these fantastic cinematics and trailers for the game, all the way since its announcement to its release,that graphicaly just look awsome, but they made all the cut scenes in the game so bad, so low res... I don't get it, why do all that great work and in the final product, the actual experience, the place where it should shine, do the opposite? Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy DE:HR, gameplay is great, graphicly it's just fine (mostly because of the character models), some aspects are really great and some are less, but it's like cheating abit on your audience. Of course I know it costs less, but also does making a crapy game (just to make a point). I'm just abit disappointed.
(No trolls that will say- oh man gameplay>>>graphics, cuz I know that myself, just stick to the point please).

They made all these fantastic cinematics and trailers for the game, all the way since its announcement to its release,that graphicaly just look awsome, but they made all the cut scenes in the game so bad, so low res... I don't get it, why do all that great work and in the final product, the actual experience, the place where it should shine, do the opposite? Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy DE:HR, gameplay is great, graphicly it's just fine (mostly because of the character models), some aspects are really great and some are less, but it's like cheating abit on your audience. Of course I know it costs less, but also does making a crapy game (just to make a point). I'm just abit disappointed.
(No trolls that will say- oh man gameplay>>>graphics, cuz I know that myself, just stick to the point please).

f22rf

I agree with this...the cut-scenes should have been better on PC (ala StarCraft 2)

Maybe cause it was a multi-platform so they just ported the cut-scenes over???

I'm alright with the graphics, only thing that bothers me is seeing the same items appearing in different places. It just gives a cut and paste feel/repetitive feel.

What bothers me about the cut scenes is that that a lot of them could have simply been in real time. The transition from gameplay to cut scene is quite jarring. Especially considering that the game looks so much cleaner then the cutscenes. I mean really, do we need a video cutscene of Adam walking into the clinic or Adam walking into his bosses office. They should use those cutscenes for the cool stuff.

What bothers me about the cut scenes is that that a lot of them could have simply been in real time. The transition from gameplay to cut scene is quite jarring. Especially considering that the game looks so much cleaner then the cutscenes.

JangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

What bothers me about the cut scenes is that that a lot of them could have simply been in real time. The transition from gameplay to cut scene is quite jarring. Especially considering that the game looks so much cleaner then the cutscenes.

FelipeInside

The video cutscenes use the in engine(I assume.) But of course are formatted into a video. There are cut scenes in HR they are in real time, but they are using your hardware to render them. Even if you were playing on a console, the transition from real time in game graphics to a preset video is still quite jarring.

A lot of discussion about nothing.

The ingame conversations look kind of scary, people are constantly twitching.

Cut-scenes are better.

The stuff from the trailer was CGI. CGI is expensive, the trailer was made just for promotional use.

The cut-scenes are from the engine.

They probably just wanted to use the same compressed video files across the board. The Xbox 360 version has to fit on a single DVD-9 after all...

I can't think of any other reason they would be of lower quality.

A lot of discussion about nothing.

The ingame conversations look kind of scary, people are constantly twitching.

Cut-scenes are better.

The stuff from the trailer was CGI. CGI is expensive, the trailer was made just for promotional use.

The cut-scenes are from the engine.

GeneralShowzer

We know the trailers are CGI.....the discussion is about the cut-scenes and how they could have been HD....

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

A lot of discussion about nothing.

The ingame conversations look kind of scary, people are constantly twitching.

Cut-scenes are better.

The stuff from the trailer was CGI. CGI is expensive, the trailer was made just for promotional use.

The cut-scenes are from the engine.

FelipeInside

We know the trailers are CGI.....the discussion is about the cut-scenes and how they could have been HD....

[QUOTE="f22rf"]

They made all these fantastic cinematics and trailers for the game, all the way since its announcement to its release,that graphicaly just look awsome, but they made all the cut scenes in the game so bad, so low res... I don't get it, why do all that great work and in the final product, the actual experience, the place where it should shine, do the opposite? Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy DE:HR, gameplay is great, graphicly it's just fine (mostly because of the character models), some aspects are really great and some are less, but it's like cheating abit on your audience. Of course I know it costs less, but also does making a crapy game (just to make a point). I'm just abit disappointed.
(No trolls that will say- oh man gameplay>>>graphics, cuz I know that myself, just stick to the point please).

FelipeInside

I agree with this...the cut-scenes should have been better on PC (ala StarCraft 2)

Maybe cause it was a multi-platform so they just ported the cut-scenes over???

What bothers me about the cut scenes is that that a lot of them could have simply been in real time. The transition from gameplay to cut scene is quite jarring. Especially considering that the game looks so much cleaner then the cutscenes. I mean really, do we need a video cutscene of Adam walking into the clinic or Adam walking into his bosses office. They should use those cutscenes for the cool stuff.

JangoWuzHere

Isn't this always the case with ports? Mass Effect 2 was the same, horrible low res 360 cut scenes.couly

Cutscenes at low-res cause they are the same ones the consoles use. Have to be low-res to fit on the disc. Retarded I know.

No, TC isn't complaining about the quality of the assets int he custscenes.

He IS cimplaining about the incredibly poor quality of the actual video.

Face it. It's embarrasing. There's no reason why they couldn't have made those cut scenes 1080p and crystla clear. Modern compression codecs would have made it simple to include all of the game's cutscenes in a couple of gigs of space.

The REASON why they gave us 1990 style quality video is consoles - namely the xbox 360.

Developers keep thinking that it all has to look and play THE SAME on every platform. This leads to lowest commond denominator syndrome where the capabilities of other systems are ignored.

On PC this game should have had proper HD cutscenes, a LOT more NPC's roaming the city to make it look more like a city and less like a game, and probably a lot betetr graphics.

But then all the consoel gamers would louldy complain about how they got a "dumbed down port". Nevermind hat it's BECAUSE theya re plauying on outdated consoles.

Look at BF3. IT's a game that's has also made a ton of compromizes for the consoles, and yet HAS taken some advantage fo modern PC hardware. not as much as it could have, almost certainly, for the same reason I mention above, but still, it shows they have taken the PC platform seriously.

And what happenned? Consolites still whinning about the few extras the PC gets.

[QUOTE="couly"]Isn't this always the case with ports? Mass Effect 2 was the same, horrible low res 360 cut scenes.DanielDust

No, TC isn't complaining about the quality of the assets int he custscenes.

He IS cimplaining about the incredibly poor quality of the actual video.

Face it. It's embarrasing. There's no reason why they couldn't have made those cut scenes 1080p and crystla clear. Modern compression codecs would have made it simple to include all of the game's cutscenes in a couple of gigs of space.

The REASON why they gave us 1990 style quality video is consoles - namely the xbox 360.

Kinthalis

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

No, TC isn't complaining about the quality of the assets int he custscenes.

He IS cimplaining about the incredibly poor quality of the actual video.

Face it. It's embarrasing. There's no reason why they couldn't have made those cut scenes 1080p and crystla clear. Modern compression codecs would have made it simple to include all of the game's cutscenes in a couple of gigs of space.

The REASON why they gave us 1990 style quality video is consoles - namely the xbox 360.

skrat_01

[QUOTE="couly"]Isn't this always the case with ports? Mass Effect 2 was the same, horrible low res 360 cut scenes.DanielDust

What bothers me about the cut scenes is that that a lot of them could have simply been in real time. The transition from gameplay to cut scene is quite jarring. Especially considering that the game looks so much cleaner then the cutscenes. I mean really, do we need a video cutscene of Adam walking into the clinic or Adam walking into his bosses office. They should use those cutscenes for the cool stuff.

JangoWuzHere

On PC this game should have had proper HD cutscenes, a LOT more NPC's roaming the city to make it look more like a city and less like a game, and probably a lot betetr graphics.

Kinthalis

[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="couly"] [QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="couly"]Isn't this always the case with ports? Mass Effect 2 was the same, horrible low res 360 cut scenes.MFDOOM1983

Don't remember any prerendered cutscenes, the entire game was real time, except the ending and random Normandy related stuff (almost if you guys say such scenes exist)

Yeah, the normandy stuff while cruising in space was terrible there too.

Again, the xbox 360 disc space issue.

I just don't see why they don't make it higher quality for the Pc and PS3.

There's no reason not to. It's not like xbox 360 gamers aren't going to buy MAss Effe3ct becaus eof cutscene quality. They'll complain, but that's it.

Am I the only one who thinks it looks fine? I honestly do not see the basis for saying it looks bad.

Am I the only one who thinks it looks fine? I honestly do not see the basis for saying it looks bad.

Whiteblade999

Not an issue for me at all, the lame boss fights were my only issue with the game.

Does anyone else find the transition between ingame stuff and those higher res movies jarring? I find it really disjointed :( biggest_loser

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Does anyone else find the transition between ingame stuff and those higher res movies jarring? I find it really disjointed :( FelipeInside

No you dont have to do the side quests to beat the game. I would advice doing as many as you can though

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Does anyone else find the transition between ingame stuff and those higher res movies jarring? I find it really disjointed :( kozzy1234

No you dont have to do the side quests to beat the game. I would advice doing as many as you can though

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Yes, it sort of bothers me cause it happens so frequently. OFF-TOPIC: are side quests necessary to finish the game?FelipeInside

No you dont have to do the side quests to beat the game. I would advice doing as many as you can though

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

No you dont have to do the side quests to beat the game. I would advice doing as many as you can though

flipin_jackass

Hahahahhaa, yes true...

I don't want to speed through the game... but I also have to consider my limited gametime lately.... I can't even get one hour of gaming these days. And with so many titles coming up....ya know....

[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Yes, that would be a better question. Does doing the side quests make the main game EASIER to finish? (as in gaining XP, points, etc...) or can it be done without bothering with the side quests?FelipeInside

Hahahahhaa, yes true...

I don't want to speed through the game... but I also have to consider my limited gametime lately.... I can't even get one hour of gaming these days. And with so many titles coming up....ya know....

Does anyone else find the transition between ingame stuff and those higher res movies jarring? I find it really disjointed :( biggest_loser

What bothered me more was that those cutscenes could have easily been replaced by conversations with dialogue options, or interesting gameplay elements.

For example, it was extremely jarring when the game jumped to a cutscene...

[spoiler] ...during the first meeting with Zhao.
My control over the situation disappeared, Jensen stupidly let his guard down after telling Zhao that he thought she was behind everything, and then we got railroaded into a fight that could have easily been avoided. [/spoiler]

Come to think of it, the post-boss cutscenes were really jarring too, with the fancy violence and so on. Especially after I'd taken the care to only attack the bosses with non-lethal weapons.

Cutscene Jensen was a completely different guy to my Jensen, and that bothered me for the entire game.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

What bothers me about the cut scenes is that that a lot of them could have simply been in real time. The transition from gameplay to cut scene is quite jarring. Especially considering that the game looks so much cleaner then the cutscenes.

FelipeInside

Does anyone else find the transition between ingame stuff and those higher res movies jarring? I find it really disjointed :( biggest_loser