Diablo 3 upcoming patches...

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

Oh look, another post by Wasdie bashing PC gamers. How classy, especially for a mod.

-Unreal-

Hardly, nobody ever went broke selling things geared towards imbeciles and bottom feeders.

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

Oh look, another post by Wasdie bashing PC gamers. How classy, especially for a mod.

-wildflower-

Hardly, nobody ever went broke selling things geared towards imbeciles.

I wonder if people will remember vanilla Diablo 3 like they remember vanilla WoW :)

I haven't been in a "Blizzard thread" in a while but thanks for keeping tabs on my whereabouts, sweetie. Hell, I didn't even mention Blizzard in this thread, either, but I can't imagine your having the ability to comprehend this simple fact.

I wonder if people will remember vanilla Diablo 3 like they remember vanilla WoW :)

SovietsUnited

I certainly don't miss Vanilla Diablo 2.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

Oh look, another post by Wasdie bashing PC gamers. How classy, especially for a mod.

Wasdie

Sorry you don't agree with me and are offended for whatever reason.

I guess every person here is some flawless person and doesn't deserve any criticism. You can certainly dish it out to me but you can't take it.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

Oh look, another post by Wasdie bashing PC gamers. How classy, especially for a mod.

mirgamer

Sorry you don't agree with me and are offended for whatever reason.

I guess every person here is some flawless person and doesn't deserve any criticism. You can certainly dish it out to me but you can't take it.

It's a bit different when I'm constantly being hounded for having an opinion. Not only did I not metion anybody here specficailly, I'm being directly targeted because I'm a mod.

It's one thing to disagree with what I said and it's another thing to swing back with personal attacks.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

Oh look, another post by Wasdie bashing PC gamers. How classy, especially for a mod.

mirgamer

Sorry you don't agree with me and are offended for whatever reason.

I guess every person here is some flawless person and doesn't deserve any criticism. You can certainly dish it out to me but you can't take it.

He even says sorry.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Because PC gamers are overdramatic.

Elann2008

i'm a pc gamer, please don't generalize over 1 idiot who hates every game

[QUOTE="trastamad03"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Because PC gamers are overdramatic.

Wasdie

True, all gamers are over dramatic, but PC gamers are the worst lot still.

Diablo 3 was hyped to hell and back. Everybody wanted this Diablo 2 clone with better graphics and to have all of the same content and experiences as Diablo 2. What they got was Diablo 2 but with the realization that Diablo 2 is a 10 year old game that was built upon grinding gear if you wanted to survive in Hell. That grind wasn't fun then and it isn't fun now. I never spent much time in Hell for that very reason. It's also why I am avoiding Inferno.

Diablo has always been a mindless and boring grind. You may have enjoyed that 5+ years ago, but most people are realizing that isn't fun anymore. Not when the average RPG today dumps equipment and overpowered skills on you for just walking 5 steps forward. Seriously, compare the difficulty of your average RPG in 2001 to 2012. The differences are mind blowing. Our expectations have changed along with that. What was fun 10 years ago is no longer fun.

Diablo 3's loot system is still wonky, I'm not saying it's perfect. What I am saying is that it's suffering a lot less problems than people believe. This is just how Diablo is. A mindless grind. They nerfed attack speed becuase things were OP at launch and the hardcores complained it was too easy. Now it's too difficult. But balanceing is very diffcult. It will take them years to get it right.

[QUOTE="mirgamer"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Sorry you don't agree with me and are offended for whatever reason.

I guess every person here is some flawless person and doesn't deserve any criticism. You can certainly dish it out to me but you can't take it.

Wasdie

It's a bit different when I'm constantly being hounded for having an opinion. Not only did I not metion anybody here specficailly, I'm being directly targeted because I'm a mod.

It's one thing to disagree with what I said and it's another thing to swing back with personal attacks.

"hounded"? and pc gamers are the overdramatic people:lol:

when you constantly and in almost every thread bash pc gamers for no apparent reason and then people reply to you it's "hounded"

maybe you should stop critizing pc gamers 90% of your replies in forums to avoid those "hounding" replies. And yes, the fact that a mod has an obvious bias that obviously affects his job as a mod makes it worse.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="mirgamer"] You don't seem quite able to take criticism yourself.Krelian-co

It's a bit different when I'm constantly being hounded for having an opinion. Not only did I not metion anybody here specficailly, I'm being directly targeted because I'm a mod.

It's one thing to disagree with what I said and it's another thing to swing back with personal attacks.

"hounded"? and pc gamers are the overdramatic people:lol:

when you constantly and in almost every thread bash pc gamers for no apparent reason and then people reply to you it's "hounded"

maybe you should stop critizing pc gamers 90% of your replies in forums to avoid those "hounding" replies. And yes, the fact that a mod has an obvious bias that obviously affects his job as a mod makes it worse.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Good for them. You'd probably have to pay me to make me reinstall D3

DanielDust

Your tears are delicious. Also, stop making sh*t up about me

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

Oh look, another post by Wasdie bashing PC gamers. How classy, especially for a mod.

-wildflower-

Hardly, nobody ever went broke selling things geared towards imbeciles and bottom feeders.

So if I like a game from Blizzard then I automatically am an imbecil and bottom feeder?

Sorry but that's trolling right there. Blizzard games are fun, and that's why they sell. You might not like them which is fine, but don't insult people who do.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="mirgamer"] You don't seem quite able to take criticism yourself.Krelian-co

It's a bit different when I'm constantly being hounded for having an opinion. Not only did I not metion anybody here specficailly, I'm being directly targeted because I'm a mod.

It's one thing to disagree with what I said and it's another thing to swing back with personal attacks.

"hounded"? and pc gamers are the overdramatic people:lol:

when you constantly and in almost every thread bash pc gamers for no apparent reason and then people reply to you it's "hounded"

maybe you should stop critizing pc gamers 90% of your replies in forums to avoid those "hounding" replies. And yes, the fact that a mod has an obvious bias that obviously affects his job as a mod makes it worse.

Yeah, I constantly bash PC gamers. You got me. Out of my 40k posts, 90% of them are bashing PC gamers.

I can have a few opinons but I don't constantly bash people here.

I don't get why this game got hyped so bad, probably because of Diablo 2 being great. When I completed the game on normal difficulty, I had little desire to continue. The bosses were still easy. I keep playing the auction house trough, learned these skills from WoW.

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I'm dreading pvp in D3, but I'll come back once things are fully patched up

Wasdie

The PvP in Diablo 2 was always "lol I've got better gear you dead now" but people still love it. They might as well give it back to the people despite how obviously broken it will be.

and that's why it was awesome. camping a baddie's corpse in Blood Moore and picking up all dem coinz.

[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"][QUOTE="jakes456"]

Diablo 3 flopped hard and won't recover.

Wasdie

Because PC gamers are overdramatic.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"] How did it flop? It sold 10+ mil to date and it's Metacriftic average is 8.8.MBirdy88

Because PC gamers are overdramatic.

It's not melodramatic to have high expectations shattered by a poor gaming experience. Diablo 3 sold solely on brand image. Old school Diablo 1 & 2 players would pick up Diablo 3 no questions asked. I was hyping the game a lot all over the place until I ound out about the RMAH. I still bought the game but it turned out even worse than I thought.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Because PC gamers are overdramatic.

SKaREO

It's not melodramatic to have high expectations shattered by a poor gaming experience. Diablo 3 sold solely on brand image. Old school Diablo 1 & 2 players would pick up Diablo 3 no questions asked. I was hyping the game a lot all over the place until I ound out about the RMAH. I still bought the game but it turned out even worse than I thought.

No, I actually don't agree with Wasdie, overdramatic is an understatement for both this situation and the one he mentioned, how he acted during that time (RMAH).

I loved Diablo, spent around 34 hours on the beta and about 80 on the final game, but damn, not even I loved it as much as this guy that is trying to convince himself it sucked, you're a heero SKaREO, you and that other guy with 500 hours + that is constantly playing and whining how it sucks, sooner or later he'll be at 1000+ hours still whining about how it sucks and how he can't stand it anymore, till he reachs 1500+, etc.

Here it comes, a hurricane of baseless arguments from the absolute match of Wasdies statement, the man that played it for ~250 hours and asked for a refund, a refund for this game that, if tushed, would take around 12 hours to finish (on normal, but these games only ever make you play because of replayability, not because the story is so awesome you need to finish it 10 times +). No, I actually don't agree with Wasdie, overdramatic is an understatement for both this situation and the one he mentioned, how he acted during that time (RMAH). I loved Diablo, spent around 34 hours on the beta and about 80 on the final game, but damn, not even I loved it as much as this guy that is trying to convince himself it sucked, you're a heero SKaREO, you and that other guy with 500 hours + that is constantly playing and whining how it sucks, sooner or later he'll be at 1000+ hours still whining about how it sucks and how he can't stand it anymore, till he reachs 1500+, etc.DanielDust

I got in about 20 hours of Diablo 3 in one character, then I got bored. The game is fine, and I could easily get at least 150 hours out of it without an issue if the gameplay still held my interest. The problem is that Diablo 3 is an ARGP and those haven't been fun for me since I started playing a lot of other games. Back in Diablo 2 era, that's all my PC could play. It was play that or nothing. Of course I loved it. I would bet a lot more people were in that situation.

Now Diablo 3 has issues but it's still a quality game. It was fun for a single playthrough, but that style of gameplay just doesn't interest me anymore.

Is that a flop? Not for me, I wasn't expecting Diablo 3 to be amazing. I knew the shortcomings of Diablo 2 and I knew that Diablo 3 wanted to be like Diablo 2. Low and behold, Diablo 3 suffers from the same boring item grind, boring bosses, and shallow as heck gameplay that Diablo 2 did. Great for a single playthough, but it's not going to hold my interest for multiple playthroughs any time soon. I tried playing Diablo 2 LoD before I bought Diablo 3 and I got through Act I before becoming insanely bored. That should have been a hint.

I still think gamers, especially PC gamers, are really overdramatic when it comes to this stuff. The hype for Diablo 3 was impossibly high for any game to actually meet. People really thought this was going to be the second coming. Blizzard did really mess up the launch with the always-online connection. That's since passed and now people are seeing the Diablo series for what it is, shallow.

It's a series that was great 10 years ago but cannot hold up in 2012. It's really that simple.

Don't worry, Torchlight 2 will continue to prove that the isometric ARPG doesn't fit into today's PC gaming world. Sure, a lot of people will love it out of pure spite. Just look for those coming into these forums praising it and instantly comparing it to Diablo 3, saying how it is so much better blah blah blah blah. What's really going is happen is like what happened to the original Torchlight. It ended up being extremely shallow, repetitive, and boring. That's when I started to realize this style of ARPG just doesn't hold up anymore.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Here it comes, a hurricane of baseless arguments from the absolute match of Wasdies statement, the man that played it for ~250 hours and asked for a refund, a refund for this game that, if tushed, would take around 12 hours to finish (on normal, but these games only ever make you play because of replayability, not because the story is so awesome you need to finish it 10 times +). No, I actually don't agree with Wasdie, overdramatic is an understatement for both this situation and the one he mentioned, how he acted during that time (RMAH). I loved Diablo, spent around 34 hours on the beta and about 80 on the final game, but damn, not even I loved it as much as this guy that is trying to convince himself it sucked, you're a heero SKaREO, you and that other guy with 500 hours + that is constantly playing and whining how it sucks, sooner or later he'll be at 1000+ hours still whining about how it sucks and how he can't stand it anymore, till he reachs 1500+, etc.Wasdie

I got in about 20 hours of Diablo 3 in one character, then I got bored. The game is fine, and I could easily get at least 150 hours out of it without an issue if the gameplay still held my interest. The problem is that Diablo 3 is an ARGP and those haven't been fun for me since I started playing a lot of other games. Back in Diablo 2 era, that's all my PC could play. It was play that or nothing. Of course I loved it. I would bet a lot more people were in that situation.

Now Diablo 3 has issues but it's still a quality game. It was fun for a single playthrough, but that style of gameplay just doesn't interest me anymore.

Is that a flop? Not for me, I wasn't expecting Diablo 3 to be amazing. I knew the shortcomings of Diablo 2 and I knew that Diablo 3 wanted to be like Diablo 2. Low and behold, Diablo 3 suffers from the same boring item grind, boring bosses, and shallow as heck gameplay that Diablo 2 did. Great for a single playthough, but it's not going to hold my interest for multiple playthroughs any time soon. I tried playing Diablo 2 LoD before I bought Diablo 3 and I got through Act I before becoming insanely bored. That should have been a hint.

I still think gamers, especially PC gamers, are really overdramatic when it comes to this stuff. The hype for Diablo 3 was impossibly high for any game to actually meet. People really thought this was going to be the second coming. Blizzard did really mess up the launch with the always-online connection. That's since passed and now people are seeing the Diablo series for what it is, shallow.

It's a series that was great 10 years ago but cannot hold up in 2012. It's really that simple.

Don't worry, Torchlight 2 will continue to prove that the isometric ARPG doesn't fit into today's PC gaming world. Sure, a lot of people will love it out of pure spite. Just look for those coming into these forums praising it and instantly comparing it to Diablo 3, saying how it is so much better blah blah blah blah. What's really going is happen is like what happened to the original Torchlight. It ended up being extremely shallow, repetitive, and boring. That's when I started to realize this style of ARPG just doesn't hold up anymore.

I'm just glad the online requirement kept me from buying it in the first place. :lol:

I'm just glad the online requirement kept me from buying it in the first place. :lol:

menes777

Getting 20 hours out of a game for $60 isn't bad at all. Not when most games today can be completed in under 6.

[QUOTE="menes777"]

I'm just glad the online requirement kept me from buying it in the first place. :lol:

Wasdie

Getting 20 hours out of a game for $60 isn't bad at all. Not when most games today can be completed in under 6.

True, it's still one of the cheapest forms of entertainment and a great value and some people really do enjoy it and can play it for hundreds of hours.

[QUOTE="menes777"]

I'm just glad the online requirement kept me from buying it in the first place. :lol:

Wasdie

Getting 20 hours out of a game for $60 isn't bad at all. Not when most games today can be completed in under 6.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="menes777"]

I'm just glad the online requirement kept me from buying it in the first place. :lol:

MBirdy88

Getting 20 hours out of a game for $60 isn't bad at all. Not when most games today can be completed in under 6.

LOL, freaking dyslexia messing with me again. I could have swore the title topic stated, 3 Diablo patches coming.

Anyways I am glad, I haven't played in about a month, other games, music, and whatnot. But I did enjoy it, and wouldn't mind enjoying it again.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Getting 20 hours out of a game for $60 isn't bad at all. Not when most games today can be completed in under 6.

Ravenshout

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Getting 20 hours out of a game for $60 isn't bad at all. Not when most games today can be completed in under 6.

Ravenshout

I read through the blog and watched the video. A nice buff, it is a good thing for the most part, however I'm not sure how having legendaries being really good is going to work in a non ladder system. Still doesn't fix how boring the itemization is, and the terrible legendaries were never at the top reasons or even near them as to why I dislike Diablo 3, and I'm not sure it is the reason why others quit too. The disappointing fact about Diablo 3 for me, is that the things about the game I dislike the most are the things that Blizzard will never change. Oh well, happy that others seem happy with it,