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#1 kai031782
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hi, i would like to know how you feel about bestbuy geek squad? i see at bestbuy website, an in-home advanced computer dignostic and repair cost 300 usd.

are u willing to buy that amount for them to come to your home to fix your pc?

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#2 Dr_Brocoli
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hi, i would like to know how you feel about bestbuy geek squad? i see at bestbuy website, an in-home advanced computer dignostic and repair cost 300 usd.

are u willing to buy that amount for them to come to your home to fix your pc?

kai031782
Nope! I can do it myself for free:)
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#3 Deadly_Fatalis
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I don't find them helpful. They format your computer and thats about it.
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#4 johnny27
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nope there r a rip-off
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#5 tab132
Member since 2006 • 460 Posts

yeah they kind of suck(my brother has his **** warrentied at bestbuy cause he's noob), he needed his laptop repaired and they forgot to put a operating system back on it. They lost one of his sticks of ram for his laptop also, but after annoying them enough they finally replaced it. The only good thing they done was when my brother was installing his graphics card (a 8500gt lol.), his power supply died (store bought acer computer). He took the card out and gave the computer to them and they replaced it for free despite him voiding the warrenty(they didnt notice he opened it).

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#6 GuitarFreak2
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Overpriced, and I probably know more than the people that work in geek squad at my best buy.

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#7 StrawberryHill
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[QUOTE="kai031782"]

hi, i would like to know how you feel about bestbuy geek squad? i see at bestbuy website, an in-home advanced computer dignostic and repair cost 300 usd.

are u willing to buy that amount for them to come to your home to fix your pc?

Dr_Brocoli

Nope! I can do it myself for free:)

Yeah, same here.

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#8 nightz2k
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Overpriced for sure, but some people (clueless) are willing to pay it anyway. :roll:

I do it myself as well and have helped friends/family with there PC's too. It's usualy something simple and takes a few mins. lol

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#9 Makari
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It's expensive if you know what you're doing. If you don't, it's about what you have to pay for IT 'consulting' of any kind. The in-home guys are supposed to be pretty good, actually, and are generally nice and know what they are doing (they pretty much have be good to when you're going in blind to fix people's computers with a time limit).. the in-store ones not so much.
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#10 AzNs3nSaT1On
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I've lost my respect for geek squad when i heard a geeksquad member trying to sell monster brand of hdmi cables to another customer. Anybody in their right mind knows that there is no difference between an $100 cable rather than another cable that's $20
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#11 X360PS3AMD05
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Wow, i was just going to charge $20 to fix my uncle's computer :x
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#12 JigglyWiggly_
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Nope, they know nothing :) One of them told my friend that macs only have 3 viruses...

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#13 codezer0
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I generally like the stores around here, since they usually give me little crap when it comes to actually returning stuff and many of the prices are about as competitive as a brick&mortar is going to get with the likes of Newegg. Geek Squad, on the other hand, I do not. It's nice to ask one of them questions now and again to clarify something or get an alternate input on a problem I may be encountering. But I would never actually pay for their services. $300 USD is pretty damned ridiculous, considering that it's supposed to be around $60 if you bring it in. So that's a 500% markup just so they can come to your place and figure it out.
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#14 Dogswithguns
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No, I dont like them or any kind of PC services. I will not let anybody else touches my computers ever but me.
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#15 drkstorm37
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I think they are a joke, I was in the store a few weeks ago helping an older lady choose her first pc and she was asking the people there a simple question about what is quad core. The staff at best buy geek squad counter told her it ment there are 4 seperate processors on the motherboard so a 3ghz actually ment it was 12Ghz so it was twice as powerful as a Dual core 3ghz
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#16 machiavell8x8
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I think they are a joke, I was in the store a few weeks ago helping an older lady choose her first pc and she was asking the people there a simple question about what is quad core. The staff at best buy geek squad counter told her it ment there are 4 seperate processors on the motherboard so a 3ghz actually ment it was 12Ghz so it was twice as powerful as a Dual core 3ghzdrkstorm37
sounds pretty close considering he was talking to an old lady in a way she could understand. and a quad should be twice as powerful as a dual
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#17 drkstorm37
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Yes it is twice as powerfull but to tell someone there are 4 seperate processors when it is actually only one processor that has 4 cores, and to justify the price difference saying 4 processors vs 2 processors
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#18 machiavell8x8
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its just semantics, infact it was prob just a slip of the tongue or like a said he was talking to an old lady and he provided a good idea of what the difference is. 4 processors vs 4 cores....lol semantics who cares.

and yes to alot of people 4 cores is better than 2, and hence the price difference.

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#19 X360PS3AMD05
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its just semantics, infact it was prob just a slip of the tongue or like a said he was talking to an old lady and he provided a good idea of what the difference is. 4 processors vs 4 cores....lol semantics who cares.

and yes to alot of people 4 cores is better than 2, and hence the price difference.

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You work for geek squad don't you? :P
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#20 drkstorm37
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The above post is exactly what I was thinking when I read his defense to it, and I said older lady, not old lady and to me an older lady is only about 45 years old it is not like she was some 70 year old that had never seen a computer before, and I do not think it was a slip of the tongue, not when they go on about it for 5 minutes, it is simply just a tactic they use to try to deceive the unknown buyer to purchase something based on deception, hence spend more money than they need to since they work on commission
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#21 aura_enchanted
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alright well here my experience with them and the opinions of a cert. netwrok technician. best buy geek squad can be made example of:

1) though they do require my basic certification alot of them still cant (for reason or another, get the simplest of things right), my actual situation: i priced out an overhaul for a buddy of mines aging gaming rig, i checked it out and suggested a low end graphics card and additional memory, the technician he took it to (at geek squad) said the memory was incompatible and the gfx card wasnt either, i crack open my friends pc and successfully install both his new sapphire hd 3650, and kingston 1GB ddr667 stick without error and tell him to never use them again.

2) they charge wayy more then even the tinyest of computer companies (at least locally for me) a system purge of virus and spyware/malware etc. is about 3 times who joe blows pc repair charges (its about $100 for them and the others are like $30-45 (varying on severity).

3) finally they take bloody ages to get things done, repairs can take weeks yet the problem probably took them a day to identify and another to solve.

i deem them grade A useless

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#22 machiavell8x8
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The above post is exactly what I was thinking when I read his defense to it, and I said older lady, not old lady and to me an older lady is only about 45 years old it is not like she was some 70 year old that had never seen a computer before, and I do not think it was a slip of the tongue, not when they go on about it for 5 minutes, it is simply just a tactic they use to try to deceive the unknown buyer to purchase something based on deception, hence spend more money than they need to since they work on commissiondrkstorm37
yah its funny how you keep coming up with these extra "details" to support your case. my reply was to your original post, and your original post made you sound like you "worked for geek squad" because you thought quad cores weren't twice as powerful as dual cores. and you mentioned how a 3ghz quad core was = to 12 ghz like it was wrong.....thats right lol. 4 x 3 = 12ghz of power to use. which is exactly twice as powerful as a 3ghz dualcore 3x2= 6ghz. oh and yes sales people do tend to try and sell you things...go figuer. and like i said it could very well be semantics, there really isn't a whole lot of difference between a "processor" and a "core". he could have very well mixed the two together....for the simple fact that it would be easier to explain to someone. the fact that he dwelled on "seperate" ..........OH i dunno maybe that was so she didn't think a quadcore was a 12ghz processor??? yah just maybe that was it. infact i guarantee that was the case based on the previous paragraph above regarding you. and how do you know she's never seen a computer before? you already told us that this was going to be her FIRST.
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#23 Sentinel672002
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My last experence at Best Buy involved me looking for a replacement G5 Laser Mouse. Not finding any in the mouse section, I asked the Geek Squad guy if they had any G5 mice in stock. He colaborated with another Geek Squad guy (manager), then checked their computer. At this point I got the feeling they didn't know what I was talking about, so I specifically said "a Logitech G5 Laser Mouse", at which point they located one for me. I mean, how many G5 mice are on the market currently??? But, it didn't end there. Whilst wandering through the PC parts area (with G5 safely in hand) I noticed something called "Corsair Gaming Memory". It stated on the packaging it was DDR2 PC6400, but gave no other specs. I inquired about this and the Geek Squad guy talked to his manager...again... Neither of them knew. I then asked if we could look it up in the net, as I wasn't about to purchase memory without knowing it's specs. It turns out the Corsair Gaming Memory had identical specs to the Corsair XMS2 memory I already own, so I bought their last two 2GB sticks. God help the noobs that need to buy PC parts from Best Buy. For noobs that actually use the Geek Squad for computer maintenance, even god cannot help you...

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#24 Auraknight1
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My last experence at Best Buy involved me looking for a replacement G5 Laser Mouse. Not finding any in the mouse section, I asked the Geek Squad guy if they had any G5 mice in stock. He colaborated with another Geek Squad guy (manager), then checked their computer. At this point I got the feeling they didn't know what I was talking about, so I specifically said "a Logitech G5 Laser Mouse", at which point they located one for me. I mean, how many G5 mice are on the market currently??? But, it didn't end there. Whilst wandering through the PC parts area (with G5 safely in hand) I noticed something called "Corsair Gaming Memory". It stated on the packaging it was DDR2 PC6400, but gave no other specs. I inquired about this and the Geek Squad guy talked to his manager...again... Neither of them knew. I then asked if we could look it up in the net, as I wasn't about to purchase memory without knowing it's specs. It turns out the Corsair Gaming Memory had identical specs to the Corsair XMS2 memory I already own, so I bought their last two 2GB sticks. God help the noobs that need to buy PC parts from Best Buy. For noobs that actually use the Geek Squad for computer maintenance, even god cannot help you...

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that indeed is very sad
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#25 machiavell8x8
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the same thing happens over by the tv section at best buy too. they still go around telling everyone plasma's suck and get burn in really easy...which is completely false.

but the normal non geek squad guys hanging around the computer section are actually pretty helpful, i was asking about routers and the guy had spot on answers. but i think it depends on the person of course.

but as for the ram problem you encountered, you can't really expect people to remember the timings and speed for all the models lol

oh and i just thought of a good story too, i went to radioshack the other day to buy a cmos battery for my computer, and this jerk had his gf sitting on the floor in the middle of the room lol. anyways, i forgot to bring the number because i just assumed there would only be one battery that size and shape, turns out there was 2 lol. but i went to ask the guy which one i needed and he didn't know and wouldn't even look it up for me. sucked too cuss i bought the wrong one :( then i just got a refund and bought a drink from orange julius :)

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#26 drkstorm37
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I didnt come up with any extra details, my post simply stated they told her it had 4 different processors on it, I never stated I did not think quad cores where not as fast a dual cores, I stated he told her it was four processors in the computer where a dual core only has 2 processors as far as I know there is a HUGE difference between 4 cores and 4 processors the difference meaning 4 cores in ONE processor where as 4 processors means just that 4 DIFFERENT processors,, but in your infinate wizdom I am sure I am wrong.... but your posts definatly make you sound like your a geek squad employee because you are consistant in defending there ignorance of computer... I am still trying to figure out where in my post I came up with different details other then they do not know what they are talking about at geek squad. Yes it was her first computer, that she owns, that does not mean she never seen one or used one,
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#27 machiavell8x8
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it does have 4 processors on it, there just all on one chip. they renamed them to cores so people didn't confuse them with seperate processors. but to a lamen, "older women" as you FIRST put it, buying her FIRST computer, why would one even bother to mention the difference between 4 processors on one chip, vs 4 seperate chips. and remember, you said 4 processors. so unless he said 4 seperate chips.......which he didn't. then he explained it in a good enough way considering the above mentioned reasonings. when you explain things to people, you always take into account there knowledge, and then you adjust how you would explain something, and in this instince the most basic way, but as far as im concerned it provided her with all the knowledge that SHE NEEDED TO KNOW.

so does is even matter? there are 4 processors, and they all work seperately processing different information. like i said semantics. so if you don't see the similarity, and care so much about "core vs processor" then im not even gunna waste anymore of my time. im sure there's plenty of people who do get it.

but lets say for a second that for some reason she thought there was 4 chips, does it matter???? the message she got, and the only message she needed to get, was that the processor quad core was 2x as good. so if this magical 4 processors was 4 chips, then guess what the dual core was 2 chips!!!!!!!

and no don't even pretend you knew quad cores were faster, because you would have never even mentioned all that if you had..................good night

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#28 drkstorm37
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I do not have to pretend anything about Quad vs Dual, I mentioned what the guy at best buy told her not what I knew, but then again if you could figure out how to read what was written vs what you want to read you would realize that. I get what you are saying about the core vs processors, and like I have said and so have others, you sure can tell your a Geek squad employee who feels they have to defend why they misinform the average user just to make themselves sound intelligent and sell a higher priced item then is needed. But then again it is not worth any of my time to prove a point to someone who obviously believes anything the High geek at geek squad tells them in order to make a sale
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#29 machiavell8x8
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great so you get what im saying and then say it doesn't make sense....as if your making any sense.

oh and if im a geek squad employee what does that make you walmart security?

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#30 drkstorm37
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I never said it did not make sense I simply pointed out the difference in telling someone what a quad core processor is vs 4 separate processors on a motherboard. But then again in your thinking it is just semantics. IMO a walmart security officer probably know as much or more then geek squad does. As I stated previously your not worth the time it takes to debat "semantics" with you when you obviously think your always right
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#31 machiavell8x8
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i don't know about always right, but in this thread ive always been right 8)

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#32 NotAFurry
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the same thing happens over by the tv section at best buy too. they still go around telling everyone plasma's suck and get burn in really easy...which is completely false.

machiavell8x8

Ummmm, why is it false? Isn't it the truth?

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#33 opamando
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and you mentioned how a 3ghz quad core was = to 12 ghz like it was wrong.....thats right lol. 4 x 3 = 12ghz of power to use. which is exactly twice as powerful as a 3ghz dualcore 3x2= 6ghz. oh and yes sales people do tend to try and sell you things...go figuer. and like i said it could very well be semantics, there really isn't a whole lot of difference between a "processor" and a "core". he could have very well mixed the two together....for the simple fact that it would be easier to explain to someone. the fact that he dwelled on "seperate" ..........OH i dunno maybe that was so she didn't think a quadcore was a 12ghz processor??? yah just maybe that was it. infact i guarantee that was the case based on the previous paragraph above regarding you. and how do you know she's never seen a computer before? you already told us that this was going to be her FIRST.machiavell8x8

No, just NO!. I thought everyone here understood that, You cannot multiply the cores by the speed. With a dual core @3 GHz, you have two cores at 3GHz, you just can't add them together. With a quad you have 4 core capable of 3GHz. Again you cannot just add them together. It does not work that way.

This is what con-men and noobs say to push sales or make things sound better. But it is incorrect.

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#34 kemar7856
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they can charge alot just to fix simple pc errors

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#35 drkstorm37
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I am glad someone else spoke up about adding the cores together and that geek squad is wrong in telling people that. looks like I wasnt the one wrong in this post after all, thanks
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#36 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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no, but i can see how some truly computer illiterate people would pay that. i may join the geek squad someday.
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#37 Ravirr
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no, but i can see how some truly computer illiterate people would pay that. i may join the geek squad someday.paullywog

I am part of that team(Currently going to college for my RN degree). Its not a bad gig and some pretty good pay. It mainly sucks being a psuedo sales team / computer fixer. I have seen some really stupid get put on the geek squad but overall our store is good. Yeah they are over priced and looking from outside it seems crazy but once you see the people we work with it becomes pretty appearnt. I had a guy walk into my store and ask me where the internet is located on his computer. Its things like that. And also to the people that lost there ram, GS just handles the shipping that would be the service center that lost your ram :P

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#38 machiavell8x8
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[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]and you mentioned how a 3ghz quad core was = to 12 ghz like it was wrong.....thats right lol. 4 x 3 = 12ghz of power to use. which is exactly twice as powerful as a 3ghz dualcore 3x2= 6ghz. oh and yes sales people do tend to try and sell you things...go figuer. and like i said it could very well be semantics, there really isn't a whole lot of difference between a "processor" and a "core". he could have very well mixed the two together....for the simple fact that it would be easier to explain to someone. the fact that he dwelled on "seperate" ..........OH i dunno maybe that was so she didn't think a quadcore was a 12ghz processor??? yah just maybe that was it. infact i guarantee that was the case based on the previous paragraph above regarding you. and how do you know she's never seen a computer before? you already told us that this was going to be her FIRST.opamando

No, just NO!. I thought everyone here understood that, You cannot multiply the cores by the speed. With a dual core @3 GHz, you have two cores at 3GHz, you just can't add them together. With a quad you have 4 core capable of 3GHz. Again you cannot just add them together. It does not work that way.

This is what con-men and noobs say to push sales or make things sound better. But it is incorrect.

do please tell why 4 cores arn't 2x as powerful as a dualcore. each core is capable of 3ghz of power , so you have a total of 12ghz of power to use like i said. i never said nor implied you could run a game at 12ghz, and even if you had 4 seperate chips you still wouldn't be able to ....because it all comes down to the software being able to use it all and any hardware limitations. but games like crysis, and video editing you do see a large performance gain. and it will improve even farther as they increase support and design the software better. again i never said it ran at 12ghz, i said you had 4 Processors running at 3 ghz. 4 x 3 = 12 you have 12 ghz to use. you just have to find something to use it all with. and if you do use each processor at 100% load IT IS 2x as powerful as a dual core!!

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#39 DemetriP790
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I had a guy walk into my store and ask me where the internet is located on his computer.

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remind me of that south park episode

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#40 Sentinel672002
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[QUOTE="opamando"]

[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]and you mentioned how a 3ghz quad core was = to 12 ghz like it was wrong.....thats right lol. 4 x 3 = 12ghz of power to use. which is exactly twice as powerful as a 3ghz dualcore 3x2= 6ghz. oh and yes sales people do tend to try and sell you things...go figuer. and like i said it could very well be semantics, there really isn't a whole lot of difference between a "processor" and a "core". he could have very well mixed the two together....for the simple fact that it would be easier to explain to someone. the fact that he dwelled on "seperate" ..........OH i dunno maybe that was so she didn't think a quadcore was a 12ghz processor??? yah just maybe that was it. infact i guarantee that was the case based on the previous paragraph above regarding you. and how do you know she's never seen a computer before? you already told us that this was going to be her FIRST.machiavell8x8

No, just NO!. I thought everyone here understood that, You cannot multiply the cores by the speed. With a dual core @3 GHz, you have two cores at 3GHz, you just can't add them together. With a quad you have 4 core capable of 3GHz. Again you cannot just add them together. It does not work that way.

This is what con-men and noobs say to push sales or make things sound better. But it is incorrect.

do please tell why 4 cores arn't 2x as powerful as a dualcore. each core is capable of 3ghz of power , so you have a total of 12ghz of power to use like i said. i never said nor implied you could run a game at 12ghz, and even if you had 4 seperate chips you still wouldn't be able to ....because it all comes down to the software being able to use it all and any hardware limitations. but games like crysis, and video editing you do see a large performance gain. and it will improve even farther as they increase support and design the software better. again i never said it ran at 12ghz, i said you had 4 Processors running at 3 ghz. 4 x 3 = 12 you have 12 ghz to use. you just have to find something to use it all with. and if you do use each processor at 100% load IT IS 2x as powerful as a dual core!!

A 3.0Ghz quad rig performs roughly as well as a rig with two 3.0Ghz dual cores (in a dual socket board). Both systems can perform four seperate tasks (execution threads) at 3.0Ghz. So, from that stand point, you could say a quad is twice as capable as a single dual core of the same frequency/brand/architecture. The frequencies do not stack however (ie. 3.0Ghz quad = 12Ghz single core). Apples and oranges that. In a single threaded application a 3.0Ghz quad core would be left dust by a (theoretical) 12Ghz single core processor of the same brand/architecture. This is because the quad would only use one of it's 3.0Ghz cores on the single threaded app, while the 12Ghz single core would be entirely devoted to the task at hand. Hope this helps.

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the same thing happens over by the tv section at best buy too. they still go around telling everyone plasma's suck and get burn in really easy...which is completely false.

NotAFurry

Ummmm, why is it false? Isn't it the truth?

Yeah, that's what I though too. That's why we got an LCD over a Plasma. Anyone know?
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[QUOTE="opamando"]

[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]and you mentioned how a 3ghz quad core was = to 12 ghz like it was wrong.....thats right lol. 4 x 3 = 12ghz of power to use. which is exactly twice as powerful as a 3ghz dualcore 3x2= 6ghz. oh and yes sales people do tend to try and sell you things...go figuer. and like i said it could very well be semantics, there really isn't a whole lot of difference between a "processor" and a "core". he could have very well mixed the two together....for the simple fact that it would be easier to explain to someone. the fact that he dwelled on "seperate" ..........OH i dunno maybe that was so she didn't think a quadcore was a 12ghz processor??? yah just maybe that was it. infact i guarantee that was the case based on the previous paragraph above regarding you. and how do you know she's never seen a computer before? you already told us that this was going to be her FIRST.machiavell8x8

No, just NO!. I thought everyone here understood that, You cannot multiply the cores by the speed. With a dual core @3 GHz, you have two cores at 3GHz, you just can't add them together. With a quad you have 4 core capable of 3GHz. Again you cannot just add them together. It does not work that way.

This is what con-men and noobs say to push sales or make things sound better. But it is incorrect.

do please tell why 4 cores arn't 2x as powerful as a dualcore. each core is capable of 3ghz of power , so you have a total of 12ghz of power to use like i said. i never said nor implied you could run a game at 12ghz, and even if you had 4 seperate chips you still wouldn't be able to ....because it all comes down to the software being able to use it all and any hardware limitations. but games like crysis, and video editing you do see a large performance gain. and it will improve even farther as they increase support and design the software better. again i never said it ran at 12ghz, i said you had 4 Processors running at 3 ghz. 4 x 3 = 12 you have 12 ghz to use. you just have to find something to use it all with. and if you do use each processor at 100% load IT IS 2x as powerful as a dual core!!

OK, I will say this one more time. A quad core at 3GHZ is not equal to 12GHz. I do not care how you make your argument, it is just not. It is 4 cores running at 3GHz, period.

You are just clueless as your posts in other threads have shown. It is a waste of time debating with you I can see.

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#43 opamando
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[QUOTE="NotAFurry"]

[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]

the same thing happens over by the tv section at best buy too. they still go around telling everyone plasma's suck and get burn in really easy...which is completely false.

Auraknight1

Ummmm, why is it false? Isn't it the truth?

Yeah, that's what I though too. That's why we got an LCD over a Plasma. Anyone know?

Yup, plasma sucks, that is why they are going to quit making them.

But what do you expect from a guy that says you need a 50inch TV for High Definition. Accrding to this fella a 20" monitor cannot be HD, LOL. I do not think he fully understands pixles and resolution, or much else for that matter :lol:

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#44 machiavell8x8
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[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]

[QUOTE="opamando"]

No, just NO!. I thought everyone here understood that, You cannot multiply the cores by the speed. With a dual core @3 GHz, you have two cores at 3GHz, you just can't add them together. With a quad you have 4 core capable of 3GHz. Again you cannot just add them together. It does not work that way.

This is what con-men and noobs say to push sales or make things sound better. But it is incorrect.

opamando

do please tell why 4 cores arn't 2x as powerful as a dualcore. each core is capable of 3ghz of power , so you have a total of 12ghz of power to use like i said. i never said nor implied you could run a game at 12ghz, and even if you had 4 seperate chips you still wouldn't be able to ....because it all comes down to the software being able to use it all and any hardware limitations. but games like crysis, and video editing you do see a large performance gain. and it will improve even farther as they increase support and design the software better. again i never said it ran at 12ghz, i said you had 4 Processors running at 3 ghz. 4 x 3 = 12 you have 12 ghz to use. you just have to find something to use it all with. and if you do use each processor at 100% load IT IS 2x as powerful as a dual core!!

OK, I will say this one more time. A quad core at 3GHZ is not equal to 12GHz. I do not care how you make your argument, it is just not. It is 4 cores running a 3GHz, period.

You are just clueless as your posts in other threads have shown. It is a waste of time debating with you I can see.

so your saying a quad coreI7 or a phenom II with a rated speed of 3ghz, is using 4 processors running at 750mhz?

because im noticeing alot of "very little knowledge and information from you" and lots of "naner naner im 12 years old and your wrong"

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bestbuy is so overpriced they are a joke.Their computer parts generally cost about $100 more than the stuff on newegg.Sadly, Im not exaggerating either.
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#46 machiavell8x8
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[QUOTE="Auraknight1"][QUOTE="NotAFurry"]

Ummmm, why is it false? Isn't it the truth?

opamando

Yeah, that's what I though too. That's why we got an LCD over a Plasma. Anyone know?

Yup, plasma sucks, that is why they are going to quit making them.

But what do you expect from a guy that says you need a 50inch TV for High Definition. Accrding to this fella a 20" monitor cannot be HD, LOL. I do not think he fully understands pixles and resolution, or much else for that matter :lol:

no its 90% wrong, the companys that HAVE stopped production did so because of cost. LCD's are cheaper to make, because well, they are lower quality.....but they are getting much much better. but for right now the bottom line is the top end plasma's are better than the top end lcd's. the other reason some have stopped production of plasma's is because of places like best buy that try to sell lcd's because of higher profits, and tell people about burn in to scare them away. plasma's used to have lots of trouble with burn in but that is NOT the case anymore. some of the bottom of the bin plasma's might. the newer pioneer kuro's are pretty much immune to it unless you display the same image for a month or something crazy like that.

oh and i never said a monitor couldn't display higher resolutions, i was just debating weither you would notice the difference....which we've been over and that debate is over now....i was prob wrong on that for the most part, but in kind...you guys said you can't notice the difference between a dvd and a bluray on a 60in....so i think were even. and now your trying to say a quad core I7 or a quad core phenom II only has 3ghz of power to work with.

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OK, I will say this one more time. A quad core at 3GHZ is not equal to 12GHz. I do not care how you make your argument, it is just not. It is 4 cores running at 3GHz, period.

You are just clueless as your posts in other threads have shown. It is a waste of time debating with you I can see.

opamando

I don't see how clearer I can put it.

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[QUOTE="opamando"]

[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"] do please tell why 4 cores arn't 2x as powerful as a dualcore. each core is capable of 3ghz of power , so you have a total of 12ghz of power to use like i said. i never said nor implied you could run a game at 12ghz, and even if you had 4 seperate chips you still wouldn't be able to ....because it all comes down to the software being able to use it all and any hardware limitations. but games like crysis, and video editing you do see a large performance gain. and it will improve even farther as they increase support and design the software better. again i never said it ran at 12ghz, i said you had 4 Processors running at 3 ghz. 4 x 3 = 12 you have 12 ghz to use. you just have to find something to use it all with. and if you do use each processor at 100% load IT IS 2x as powerful as a dual core!!

machiavell8x8

OK, I will say this one more time. A quad core at 3GHZ is not equal to 12GHz. I do not care how you make your argument, it is just not. It is 4 cores running a 3GHz, period.

You are just clueless as your posts in other threads have shown. It is a waste of time debating with you I can see.

so your saying a quad coreI7 or a phenom II with a rated speed of 3ghz, is using 4 processors running at 750mhz?

because im noticeing alot of "very little knowledge and information from you" and lots of "naner naner im 12 years old and your wrong"

Well you can't add GHz from another processor...

It's like saying 4 cars going at 120mph = 480mph. WHAT?

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[QUOTE="opamando"]

OK, I will say this one more time. A quad core at 3GHZ is not equal to 12GHz. I do not care how you make your argument, it is just not. It is 4 cores running at 3GHz, period.

You are just clueless as your posts in other threads have shown. It is a waste of time debating with you I can see.

opamando

I don't see how clearer I can put it.

because you know you just got owned.
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#50 machiavell8x8
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[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]

[QUOTE="opamando"]

OK, I will say this one more time. A quad core at 3GHZ is not equal to 12GHz. I do not care how you make your argument, it is just not. It is 4 cores running a 3GHz, period.

You are just clueless as your posts in other threads have shown. It is a waste of time debating with you I can see.

Bebi_vegeta

so your saying a quad coreI7 or a phenom II with a rated speed of 3ghz, is using 4 processors running at 750mhz?

because im noticeing alot of "very little knowledge and information from you" and lots of "naner naner im 12 years old and your wrong"

Well you can't add GHz from another processor...

It's like saying 4 cars going at 120mph = 480mph. WHAT?

and yes i know this, i mentioned in a previous post that i wasn't talking about making it a magical 12ghz processor