don't buy games from steam

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[QUOTE="StrawberryHill"]

I have over 20 games using Steam and have never had a problem. N.e.v.e.r.

Ditto!!

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game? Just a thought.

Same here. Steam is the best online app for digitally buying games. OP is just venting (sic) over not really knowing what he is doing.

Never had a problem with it. Got l4d and orange box off steam for about 50 bucks or so less than there normal retail value. Nothing wrong with steam in my books

I've purchased a few games from Steam, but the only one that ever gave me any issues is Crysis. It worked for a few days, then one day I decided to run it in DX9. After that, it went "kaput". I was pretty infuriated at the time; I tried to find every possible fix, but to no avail. I wanted a fix or a refund. I tried to take the issue to Crytek, but that didn't help either.

I couldn't get it to run again until I did a clean OS install/upgrade, which is kind of retarded. But I was so happy to get it running again that I almost didn't notice that the Steam version of Crysis doesn't support 64-bit processing. After further googling, I discover that the EA download version doesn't support it either.

I've had a buggy experience with Mass Effect, too. Both games are published by EA, and both games had short lived patch spans. Coincidence? I don't know, but I haven't had any other problems with any other games recently.

So, Steam wins and EA support fails.

I've never had a problem getting my steam games to work.

I can appreciate your situation TC but for what it's worth I've never, ever had a problem with steam games and if you don't like digital distribution well you're in for a spot of both because in five or six year's time it's expected that due to various factors including cost and piracy PC games will be exclusively distributed via services like steam.thekodaman

I've purchased a few games from Steam, but the only one that ever gave me any issues is Crysis. It worked for a few days, then one day I decided to run it in DX9. After that, it went "kaput". I was pretty infuriated at the time; I tried to find every possible fix, but to no avail. I wanted a fix or a refund. I tried to take the issue to Crytek, but that didn't help either.

I couldn't get it to run again until I did a clean OS install/upgrade, which is kind of retarded. But I was so happy to get it running again that I almost didn't notice that the Steam version of Crysis doesn't support 64-bit processing. After further googling, I discover that the EA download version doesn't support it either.

I've had a buggy experience with Mass Effect, too. Both games are published by EA, and both games had short lived patch spans. Coincidence? I don't know, but I haven't had any other problems with any other games recently.

So, Steam wins and EA support fails.

Cherub_Rock

What OS are you using? I'm using Vista HP x64 and have had no problems with Crysis orMass Effect. Of course these are not downloaded versions so that may be the reason.

I really hope the trend isn't for all digital distribution. I like using disks for anything but Valve games and old games. I just feel more secure about this cause I just can't get over the part where if for some unknown reason my account can be locked. I know I can fight the battle to get it back and I would but I want to limit my risk all the same.

And then there is the problem that the downloaded versions are different and don't supportthe samethings as per your example.

All this being said I have absolutely no problems with Steam and I use it where I want.

[QUOTE="Cherub_Rock"]

What OS are you using? I'm using Vista HP x64 and have had no problems with Crysis orMass Effect. Of course these are not downloaded versions so that may be the reason.

I really hope the trend isn't for all digital distribution. I like using disks for anything but Valve games and old games. I just feel more secure about this cause I just can't get over the part where if for some unknown reason my account can be locked. I know I can fight the battle to get it back and I would but I want to limit my risk all the same.

And then there is the problem that the downloaded versions are different and don't supportthe samethings as per your example.

All this being said I have absolutely no problems with Steam and I use it where I want.

Rickylee

I use Vista 64. I can play Crysis, but not in 64 bit mode. EADM and Steam versions of Crysis does not include a Bin64 folder. As for Mass Effect (was Vista32 at the time), I used to get random crashes all of the time, and the initial graphics and sound set up took some workarounds.

They are both great games, but they are 2 of my most buggy games that I own, and they happen to be from the same publisher, Granted, they are Bioware and Crytek developed games; I suppose I just have a bad taste in my mouth from EA support.

I've never had a problem with Steam, and it's sometimes cheaper than other places, so I've got to disagree with this thread.

Planeforger

I've read some bad things on the Steam forums about games not working.

If I were you I'd just buy Valve products L4D, TF2, HL2, ect they support those more.

Anthony01355

Agreed, thats what I do

if you have a problem with steam games installing, they don't help you its just bad luck. So you don't get to play your game, so now you know this is your warning. Crysis wars hasen't worked for days and they ignore me. all my other games work but they only say its my connection, what a joke.

chris24l

I had a similar problem with Bioshock when purchasing it off STEAM. I still can't get it to run properly to this day, which is strange, I also had a problem with the hard copy freezing up, but 2K games tech support was great. They helped me get it solved and it runs fine now...

Back to STEAM...I have purchased a handful of DDL's from them and didn't have any issues except for Bioshock not running, but I received no helpful customer support from them to try and fix it....as opposed to the games developer 2K.

I just prefer to buy the retail copy of a game as opposed to a DDL, though a person can have problems either way, I've experienced better support if need be directly from the game developer....and returning a defective game back to the store has never been a problem for me.

Steam sucks donkey balls! It has ruined PC gaming. Every game that I have bought that requires Steam involves massive problems. Some examples, preparing local cache for installation, - The games will never install. Scanning steam games for updates-It never stops scanning. You are unable to decide when you want to update, -You can't play a game until it has been updated. I bought Left 4 Dead three days ago and I am still unable to play due to updates.I had to reinstall Steam and now I can't reinstall Empire Total War. It is sad when torrented games become more reliable then legal ones. I will never buy a PC game again that requires Steam.

I've been using Steam since 2004 and have never had any problems with the 30+ games I own, most of them not made by valve. It's important to remember that you really need high speed internet to use steam properly, and you must make sure it is not blocked by firewalls and security programs, etc.

I have heard about steam being slow to patch 3rd party games, however, this is the fault of the developers, not steam, as steam puts the patch out as soon as they recieve it from the devs.

Other than that the problem is usually on your end, or on the devs end.

I've been using Steam since 2004 and have never had any problems with the 30+ games I own, most of them not made by valve. It's important to remember that you really need high speed internet to use steam properly, and you must make sure it is not blocked by firewalls and security programs, etc.

I have heard about steam being slow to patch 3rd party games, however, this is the fault of the developers, not steam, as steam puts the patch out as soon as they recieve it from the devs.

Other than that the problem is usually on your end, or on the devs end.

Brendissimo35

It is ridiculous to not be able to play a game because your ISP throttles your service. No amount ofportforwarding or un-blocking firewalls will solve that problem. Even hacking a modem becomes pointless when your service is throttled. Millions of people have ISP providers who throttle which is becoming the norm with most ISP's due to lack of bandwith and increased file sizes. It is bad business tohave a product like Steam that does not work correctly withpeople who have those ISP providers. So no I disagree with you and I feelthe probelm is on Steams end.Hopefully, PC games will find another route to avoid pirating instead of using Steam.

4+ years with steam and not one issue.

Steam is awesome and i hope they are around for years to come, perfect service imo.

4+ years with steam and not one issue.

Steam is awesome and i hope they are around for years to come, perfect service imo.

kozzy1234

I have over 20 games using Steam and have never had a problem. N.e.v.e.r.

StrawberryHill

Ive got 91 games, and never had a problem.

Steam is the future and works problem-free for the majority of the gaming population.

Hail Steam!

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

I've been using Steam since 2004 and have never had any problems with the 30+ games I own, most of them not made by valve. It's important to remember that you really need high speed internet to use steam properly, and you must make sure it is not blocked by firewalls and security programs, etc.

I have heard about steam being slow to patch 3rd party games, however, this is the fault of the developers, not steam, as steam puts the patch out as soon as they recieve it from the devs.

Other than that the problem is usually on your end, or on the devs end.

srbbnd

It is ridiculous to not be able to play a game because your ISP throttles your service. No amount ofportforwarding or un-blocking firewalls will solve that problem. Even hacking a modem becomes pointless when your service is throttled. Millions of people have ISP providers who throttle which is becoming the norm with most ISP's due to lack of bandwith and increased file sizes. It is bad business tohave a product like Steam that does not work correctly withpeople who have those ISP providers. So no I disagree with you and I feelthe probelm is on Steams end.Hopefully, PC games will find another route to avoid pirating instead of using Steam.

[QUOTE="StrawberryHill"]

I have over 20 games using Steam and have never had a problem. N.e.v.e.r.

Ditto!!

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game? Just a thought.

They helped me when I had a problem with HL2.

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

I've been using Steam since 2004 and have never had any problems with the 30+ games I own, most of them not made by valve. It's important to remember that you really need high speed internet to use steam properly, and you must make sure it is not blocked by firewalls and security programs, etc.

I have heard about steam being slow to patch 3rd party games, however, this is the fault of the developers, not steam, as steam puts the patch out as soon as they recieve it from the devs.

Other than that the problem is usually on your end, or on the devs end.

srbbnd

It is ridiculous to not be able to play a game because your ISP throttles your service. No amount ofportforwarding or un-blocking firewalls will solve that problem. Even hacking a modem becomes pointless when your service is throttled. Millions of people have ISP providers who throttle which is becoming the norm with most ISP's due to lack of bandwith and increased file sizes. It is bad business tohave a product like Steam that does not work correctly withpeople who have those ISP providers. So no I disagree with you and I feelthe probelm is on Steams end.Hopefully, PC games will find another route to avoid pirating instead of using Steam.

So that's between you and your ISP. Steam can't fix your internet or pay your bills, nor can they afford to keep speeds blazing fast at peak hours like free weekends. Hence pre-loading. If you don't like your internet service, switch to a new one.

If you purchase a hard copy at the store you should not be required to use Steam. If you choose to download a game and decide to use Steam, because of the low prices then it would be understandable to use Steam. However, I prefer to have a hard copy of the game and the box for my collection, I guess call me old fashioned. I am surprised at how little people care about their consumer rights. Requiring an Internet connection to play console games would be unacceptable and it should be the same for PC games IMO.

I've been buying games off of steam fora long time... and have yet to have a problem! :?

I've been buying games off of steam fora long time... and have yet to have a problem! :?

Curlyfrii87

Me too.

Steam is almost always on when I'm on my PCs. The community features are marvelous along with weekend offerings which are great. I purchased a few games from the Steam service and so far no issues at all.

If you purchase a hard copy at the store you should not be required to use Steam. If you choose to download a game and decide to use Steam, because of the low prices then it would be understandable to use Steam. However, I prefer to have a hard copy of the game and the box for my collection, I guess call me old fashioned. I am surprised at how little people care about their consumer rights. Requiring an Internet connection to play console games would be unacceptable and it should be the same for PC games IMO.

srbbnd

It's not that I don't care about "consumer rights" it's just that I disagree with your premise. Said rights don't emerge for your right to buy the game but rather from the right to not buy the game. The company making the game has no obligation to your right to but the game only to the people making money on the game. If they screw that up they make no money and are held responsable by the share holders. Maybe they make more money this way as a way to prevent piracy soom. I hope so because I think piracy is already having an adverse effect on games, publishers, and more importantly on us.

Anyway, I'm gonna be buying another game from Steam tonight. I dunno, maybe today will be the day problems will start to pop up, since this will be only my third DD purchase ever (After UT3 and SOASE: Entrenchment), I'm just saying I haven't had any major problems with Steam so far.madrocketeer

Don't worry about it. You almost never seem to hear people when things go right, but when things go wrong they all flock together like sheep and make it seem a major problem.

If you purchase a hard copy at the store you should not be required to use Steam. If you choose to download a game and decide to use Steam, because of the low prices then it would be understandable to use Steam. However, I prefer to have a hard copy of the game and the box for my collection, I guess call me old fashioned. I am surprised at how little people care about their consumer rights. Requiring an Internet connection to play console games would be unacceptable and it should be the same for PC games IMO.

srbbnd

I completely agree.....I guess you can call me old fashioned too !

I own 17 games bought from Steam
No problems, or complaints
Don't know what you guys are hearing

[QUOTE="srbbnd"]

If you purchase a hard copy at the store you should not be required to use Steam. If you choose to download a game and decide to use Steam, because of the low prices then it would be understandable to use Steam. However, I prefer to have a hard copy of the game and the box for my collection, I guess call me old fashioned. I am surprised at how little people care about their consumer rights. Requiring an Internet connection to play console games would be unacceptable and it should be the same for PC games IMO.

DieselCat18

I completely agree.....I guess you can call me old fashioned too !

Telling People to not buy games from steam cause i few people have problems with steam is kind of ridiculous.SaintJimmmy

[QUOTE="madrocketeer"] Anyway, I'm gonna be buying another game from Steam tonight. I dunno, maybe today will be the day problems will start to pop up, since this will be only my third DD purchase ever (After UT3 and SOASE: Entrenchment), I'm just saying I haven't had any major problems with Steam so far._Pedro_

Don't worry about it. You almost never seem to hear people when things go right, but when things go wrong they all flock together like sheep and make it seem a major problem.

If you purchase a hard copy at the store you should not be required to use Steam. If you choose to download a game and decide to use Steam, because of the low prices then it would be understandable to use Steam. However, I prefer to have a hard copy of the game and the box for my collection, I guess call me old fashioned. I am surprised at how little people care about their consumer rights. Requiring an Internet connection to play console games would be unacceptable and it should be the same for PC games IMO.

srbbnd

Yes well, when it happens to a lot of people it is a major problem, right? Hence the flocking. Also if everything goes right, what is there to complain about?? Really didn't understand what the point was...chandu83

No it's a major problem when you don't need flocking. Besides there is no business in this world where troubles don't exist. Have you never wondered why you get warranty on your purchases?

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[QUOTE="srbbnd"]

If you purchase a hard copy at the store you should not be required to use Steam. If you choose to download a game and decide to use Steam, because of the low prices then it would be understandable to use Steam. However, I prefer to have a hard copy of the game and the box for my collection, I guess call me old fashioned. I am surprised at how little people care about their consumer rights. Requiring an Internet connection to play console games would be unacceptable and it should be the same for PC games IMO.

I completely agree.....I guess you can call me old fashioned too !

[QUOTE="srbbnd"]

If you purchase a hard copy at the store you should not be required to use Steam. If you choose to download a game and decide to use Steam, because of the low prices then it would be understandable to use Steam. However, I prefer to have a hard copy of the game and the box for my collection, I guess call me old fashioned. I am surprised at how little people care about their consumer rights. Requiring an Internet connection to play console games would be unacceptable and it should be the same for PC games IMO.

chandu83

Thanks, I thought I was the only crazy one.

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[QUOTE="DieselCat18"]

I completely agree.....I guess you can call me old fashioned too !

srbbnd

Include me with you..I didn't get that either..........

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[QUOTE="DieselCat18"]

I completely agree.....I guess you can call me old fashioned too !

srbbnd

It's actualy quite simple. Except the part about it being a small issue, you obviously missed the sarcasim. I mentioned it in my last post that was ignored. Piracy.

Please understand I don't like anything that prohibits me from installing a game from disk and playing it right away but the result of piracy is this new reality. So you see I can be old fashioned and realistic at the same time.And I, like you, don't have to like it I just have to live with it.

oh god why would you buy games from steam they like rip you off... oh i agree steam isnt the best choise in gameing stuffdueithedoughboy

Valve reserves the right to change the TOS for any reason at any time. If at some point Valve were to demand something you found unacceptable (let's say they want to see your internet browsing history), you instantly lose your game collection. LongZhiZi