Dual GTX 260's SLI or Dual 4870's Crossfire?

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#1 Digital_DJ_00
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Which of those two would perform better on games on a Dual 3.0 GHz CPU?
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Which of those two would perform better on games on a Dual 3.0 GHz CPU?Digital_DJ_00

I am going to say 4870 Crossfire since they work very well with my e8400. Overall the setups should be comparable, with one or the other winning certain games but overall equal.

If you want some benchies i got abunch of demos of games i dont own and others if they helps your decision making. I am sure someone else here has 260gtx sli and should give you a better idea.

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#3 Digital_DJ_00
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[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]Which of those two would perform better on games on a Dual 3.0 GHz CPU?CreasianDevaili

I am going to say 4870 Crossfire since they work very well with my e8400. Overall the setups should be comparable, with one or the other winning certain games but overall equal.

If you want some benchies i got abunch of demos of games i dont own and others if they helps your decision making. I am sure someone else here has 260gtx sli and should give you a better idea.



I'm deciding on which model of Alienware product I need to buy for gaming. The Aurora is cheaper but doesn't have as good specs as the Area-51, but the Aurora's specs are only a shade under the Area-51's and it's considerably cheaper. ($900) And I've been hearing the Dual 4870's are cheap and perform marvelously for their price. So I can't decide. Maybe I'll post my personalized specs of the Aroura and the Area-51 and see what everyone thinks I should go for.
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#4 CreasianDevaili
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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]Which of those two would perform better on games on a Dual 3.0 GHz CPU?Digital_DJ_00

I am going to say 4870 Crossfire since they work very well with my e8400. Overall the setups should be comparable, with one or the other winning certain games but overall equal.

If you want some benchies i got abunch of demos of games i dont own and others if they helps your decision making. I am sure someone else here has 260gtx sli and should give you a better idea.



I'm deciding on which model of Alienware product I need to buy for gaming. The Aurora is cheaper but doesn't have as good specs as the Area-51, but the Aurora's specs are only a shade under the Area-51's and it's considerably cheaper. ($900) And I've been hearing the Dual 4870's are cheap and perform marvelously for their price. So I can't decide. Maybe I'll post my personalized specs of the Aroura and the Area-51 and see what everyone thinks I should go for.

I havent met a game that I cant do extremely well in. The two gpu setups will trade blows overall. So it is good to say what type of games out right now and what ones coming out that you want to play as a main interest.

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#5 Wesker776
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I thought you were never going to buy ATI. Have benchmarks changed your mind?

Anyway, here are some R700 previews:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/15105
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3354

HD4870 CrossFire or R700 competes with GTX 280 SLI. Crysis seems to currently be the exception, however.

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#6 Digital_DJ_00
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I thought you were never going to buy ATI. Have benchmarks changed your mind?

Anyway, here are some R700 previews:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/15105
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3354

HD4870 CrossFire or R700 competes with GTX 280 SLI. Crysis seems to currently be the exception, however.

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Alright. I'm going to post the specs of my personalized Aroura and the Area-51. I'll need everyone's input.

Aroura Personalized Specs:

AMD Athlon X2 5800+ 3.0GHz Dual Core 2 x 1MB L2 Cache
Alienware High-Performance Liquid Cooling
Alienware 1000 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Dual 512MB GDDR5 ATI Radeon HD 4870 with CrossFire Technology
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 x 1024MB
Alienware Approved AMD 790FX Motherboard
Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1
500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD - RW)
Killer K1 Gaming Network Interface Card
McAfee VirusScan Plus - 24-Month Subscription

Sub-total $2,469

Area-51 Personalized Specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz 6MB Cache 1333MHz FSB
Alienware High-Performance Liquid Cooling
Alienware 1000 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Dual 896MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 2 x 2048MB
Alienware Approved NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard
Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1
500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
20X Dual Layer Burner (DVD - RW) w/ Lightscribe
Killer K1 Gaming Network Interface Card
McAfee VirusScan Plus - 24-Month Subscription

Sub-total $3,268

Which one should I go for?


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#7 Wesker776
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Why the **** would Alienware mix a HD4870 with an Athlon X2? :| :| :|

Out of those two, go for the GTX 260. The E8500 will easily push the rig faster than the 5800+.

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#8 Elann2008
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Why the **** would Alienware mix a HD4870 with an Athlon X2? :| :| :|

Out of those two, go for the GTX 260. The E8500 will easily push the rig faster than the 5800+.

Wesker776

Because retail sucks! :P jk jk. No flaming. :P

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#9 Elann2008
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But seriously, TC. Those rigs are WAY overpriced... build your own. Customize your PC to your liking and it would be much better than those Alienware PCs, hands down. The last time I ever thought about buying Alienware, I was way too young and stupid... Not saying that you are... it's just that you're not informed just like I wasnt. So yeah, build your own PC. It's fun too. I had a blast putting mine together and I'm looking forward to building my next one. If you're going to buy it anyways despite what I said.. Best of luck.. even if you have lots of money, I wouldnt throw my money away like that and I'd rather donate the difference to charity.
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#10 D_Knight_Nik
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go with ati. I've heard the nvida chipsets are buggy as of now.
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#11 Digital_DJ_00
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Hmmm... Would it be better to have Dual GTX 260's or a Single 9800 GX2?

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#12 Wesker776
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Hmmm... Would it be better to have Dual GTX 260's or a Single 9800 GX2?

Digital_DJ_00

Dual GTX 260's.

But I would seriously ignore Alienware's offerings, if I were you. I would seriously contemplate waiting for the HD4870 X2 or possibly Diamond's HD4870 Black Edition (in CrossFire).

If you're determined to go for a prebuild, go buy a PC from a brand like Falcon Northwest.

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#13 kodex1717
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Holy hell, those configurations easily cost twice what they're worth! I would strongly recommend that you at least consider building your own computer. It's way easier than it sounds and it usually takes less than two hours. There's also the striking monetary benefit; verses those configurations, you'd save at least $1000!
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#14 Digital_DJ_00
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Holy hell, those configurations easily cost twice what they're worth! I would strongly recommend that you at least consider building your own computer. It's way easier than it sounds and it usually takes less than two hours. There's also the striking monetary benefit; verses those configurations, you'd save at least $1000!kodex1717


I don't know how to assemble and configure parts into a chassis, I don't know ANYTHING about that kind of stuff. I'd end up breaking stuff in the process.
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[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]

Hmmm... Would it be better to have Dual GTX 260's or a Single 9800 GX2?

Wesker776

Dual GTX 260's.

But I would seriously ignore Alienware's offerings, if I were you. I would seriously contemplate waiting for the HD4870 X2 or possibly Diamond's HD4870 Black Edition (in CrossFire).

If you're determined to go for a prebuild, go buy a PC from a brand like Falcon Northwest.

Falcon NW, although they are very good custom builts, are even more over priced than Alienware. As for which set-up to go with....SLI 260's or CF 4870's......your going to get great performance either way...

I do think you should consider some of the previous suggestions about buying your parts and assembling it yourself or the very least finding a computer shop or possibly a friend with computer knowledge to build it for you. The cash you would save is just to much to ignore and you would no doubt end up with a superior system.

Just to give you an idea..... I'm building a new system this week, ordered all the parts, which will arrive on Monday. (this will be the 1st computer I'm building myself).... GPU-ASUS 4780( 255 )...Mobo-Gigabyte GA-X48 DS4 (225 )...RAM-G.Skill 4GB DDR-2 PC28500 (104 )...PSU-ABS Tagan BZ Series 900w Modular (219)...CPU-Intel C2D E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz (190 )...CPU cooler- Zalman CNPS 9700 (54)...HHD- (2) WD 640G SE16 Caviar SATA 7200 (174)...DVD-LITE-ON 20x burner w/ Light Scribe (38 )...O/S- Win Vista Ultimate x64 retail version (226)...Case-NZXT Apollo mid-tower (69)...Sound Card-X-Fi Titanium Fatality (130)....

Total 1684.00 + 30.00 S&H (Assembly not included)....and if I add a 2nd 4870 for CF, I still come in under 2K

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#16 kodex1717
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I don't know how to assemble and configure parts into a chassis, I don't know ANYTHING about that kind of stuff. I'd end up breaking stuff in the process.Digital_DJ_00

It's really far easier than it seems. The following would be a simplified list of steps:

1.) Install power supply into case (4 screws)

2.) Install motherboard into case (6 - 8 screws)

3.) Push RAM sticks into the slots on the motherboard

4.) Place the CPU in the socket on the motherboard and install the cooler (push in 4 pins or flip a lever)

5.) Install hard drive and optical drives into case (4 screws each)

6.) Push the graphics card(s) into the PCI-Express slot(s) on the motherboard and tighten one screw into the case

7.) If present, install a sound card in the same manner as a graphics card

8.) Plug 2 - 3 power connections into the motherboard and one to each drive and graphics card

9.) Connect the data cables between the drives and the motherboard

10.) Connect the power & reset buttons to the motherboard along with power/hard disk LEDs.

11.) Turn on computer and install Windows

The process, in a word, is fool-proof. Your motherboard will probably come with assembly instructions, or you could use any one of thousands of guides on the internet.

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#17 xialon
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I would go with the dual 4870's for right now since the 2 series costs a lot of money, unless you really want to spend like 800-900 dollars on a graphics card.

You can always get a 9800GX2, and if you want to SLi them then you can have 4 graphics cards. The 9800GX2 does better then the 4870x2, but I don't know about a dual 260. But you can get another 9800GX2, and I assure you that Dual 9800GX2 will do better then dualing any other graphics cards on the market.

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Last time I checked dual HD 4870's were more comparable to GTX 280's in SLI.
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#19 Elann2008
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Last time I checked dual HD 4870's were more comparable to GTX 280's in SLI.Jamiemydearx3

Yep.

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#20 CreasianDevaili
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Last time I checked dual HD 4870's were more comparable to GTX 280's in SLI.Jamiemydearx3

Without AA comparable to the 260gtx SLI. WITH AA they are closer and comparable to 280gtx. ATI really improved the AA and as such suffer less from AA being put on. CFAA also is wicked in how little hit you take and how awsome it looks.

Of course.. who here spends 500+ on GPU setup and not plan to use AA?