Duke Nukem Forever at PAX - Release Date: 2011

Just wait, 2011 comes around and it will somehow get delayed...AGAIN!

THGarrett

Always bet on Duke!

Duke Nukem is like Piranha 3D. Both are generally stupid but you just have so much fun with them. Not every game need be Mass Effect or Dragon Age. Sometimes you just want to have a bloody good time! I will definitely get this game. After 13 years, I think they deserve my 50 bucks! =D

Surely that's because it's a generic console FPS.

Regeneration (and don't tell me about that EGO crap. It's the same thng). No health bar, the screen just turns red when you get hurt. Modern-style sprint. Gamepad controls. YOU CANT CARRY MORE THAN TWO WEAPONS HURRR.

It's everything bad that happened to the FPS genre.

NThenIHadSumTea

- gaining health when dealing damage is not the same thing. It encourages combat, not taking cover.

- there's a big EGO bar. Who cares if the screen turns red? It's a problem when they also throw strawberry jam in your eyes, like in MW2.

- what's a modern-style sprint? Fatigue or what?

- and gamepad controls. Surely that's because they used gamepads. Or are we complaining about button prompts?

Carrying only two weapons is a shame though.

[QUOTE="NThenIHadSumTea"]

Surely that's because it's a generic console FPS.

Regeneration (and don't tell me about that EGO crap. It's the same thng). No health bar, the screen just turns red when you get hurt. Modern-style sprint. Gamepad controls. YOU CANT CARRY MORE THAN TWO WEAPONS HURRR.

It's everything bad that happened to the FPS genre.

Baranga

- gaining health when dealing damage is not the same thing. It encourages combat, not taking cover.

- there's a big EGO bar. Who cares if the screen turns red? It's a problem when they also throw strawberry jam in your eyes, like in MW2.

- what's a modern-style sprint? Fatigue or what?

- and gamepad controls. Surely that's because they used gamepads. Or are we complaining about button prompts?

Carrying only two weapons is a shame though.

Now, Im all hyped for the game, aliens and naked women yay, but Im worried that the long development cycle will make the game fail in term of graphics and other departments. Does anyone care to explain how they are going to bypass this?

Now, Im all hyped for the game, aliens and naked women yay, but Im worried that the long development cycle will make the game fail in term of graphics and other departments. Does anyone care to explain how they are going to bypass this?

GazaAli

Considering the fact that there were literally hundreads of people playing and enjoying the game at the PAX live stream, that alone dissolves the point made by haters that its going to be another Daikana. Case closed about that, if it would have failed, those hundreats of gamers would have not enjoyed the game as they did there.

Now in terms of graphics, they look good, we saw some from the low quality live stream, and they look up to date, though ofcourse not as updated as Killzone or Crisys, but nontheless good, and we still need to see HD gameplay to make a valid opinion.

Gameplay wise, like i said above, seems good.

Realistically, i expect a 8.5 out of it, hopefully a 9. :P

So, all things considered, its going to rock.

After 13 years, I think they deserve my 50 bucks! =Dspiderman120988

If it doesn't look like the 2001 trailer with the casino strip, the gunboat ride, the floating giant head aliens & the hillbilly, I'll wait until the price drop ; I want THAT game, which is forever for me. I don't mind if the franchise realse soemthing else of the franchise but I'd mind passing it under an awaited title with expectations set a while back.

I didn't care 10 years ago and I don't care now. Games that get delayed once or twice show the trouble in the development cycle usually by having a lot of issues. 10 years of delays? I can't imagine this being anything but insanely overhyped and horrible.

I didn't care 10 years ago and I don't care now. Games that get delayed once or twice show the trouble in the development cycle usually by having a lot of issues. 10 years of delays? I can't imagine this being anything but insanely overhyped and horrible.

DigitalExile

My BS meter went crazy.

One of the biggest behemoths of this generation has been released a month and a week ago following that very development cycle.

TF2 has been in development for 9 years.

Wow, talk about disappointing. The game looks like typical watered-down, mainstream garbage to me. The slow run speed and weak jump height, the limit on how many weapons you can carry, the lame health regeneration, the stupid scripted sequences replacing real exploration and interactivity... Boo. It seems as though absolutely nothing has been carried over from the original game, and the result looks just like any other generic FPS. Even the shooting looked dull. Major boo. Essentially, it took them thirteen years to get to where we already were six years ago. What a joke. I hope it flops.

Hey, what do you get when you mix everything people hated about Halo with some cheesy nudity and lame stabs at toilet humor? Well, I don't know, but I'll tell you what you don't get: my money.

Lol.

[QUOTE="spiderman120988"]After 13 years, I think they deserve my 50 bucks! =DDynV

If it doesn't look like the 2001 trailer with the casino strip, the gunboat ride, the floating giant head aliens & the hillbilly, I'll wait until the price drop ; I want THAT game, which is forever for me. I don't mind if the franchise realse soemthing else of the franchise but I'd mind passing it under an awaited title with expectations set a while back.

Hell, I want the game shown in the 1998 E3 trailer. How in the world they got from that piece of gold to this piece of you-know-what, I can only imagine.JN_Fenrir

That is someACTION-PACKED game! Shooting all those fighter jets was something. The boulder rolling down made me thing of Tomb Raider.

Wow, talk about disappointing. The game looks like typical watered-down, mainstream garbage to me. The slow run speed and weak jump height, the limit on how many weapons you can carry, the lame health regeneration, the stupid scripted sequences replacing real exploration and interactivity... Boo. It seems as though absolutely nothing has been carried over from the original game, and the result looks just like any other generic FPS. Even the shooting looked dull. Major boo. Essentially, it took them thirteen years to get to where we already were six years ago. What a joke. I hope it flops.

Hey, what do you get when you mix everything people hated about Halo with some cheesy nudity and lame stabs at toilet humor? Well, I don't know, but I'll tell you what you don't get: my money.

JN_Fenrir

1. Didn't play the game.

2.Obviously didn't check out the FULL PAX live stream.

3. Have no idea of its features, or its gameplay in general.

4. Refuse to aknowledge the fact that FUN is subjective, and no one gives a f-k. Because IF the game will be fun, it will be played. Proof of that is that old games from the 90's are still being played despite so many cutting age new games.

Why i know you didn't check out the entire stream? That's not health generation, if you don't kill, you'll be killed. :P

I didn't care 10 years ago and I don't care now. Games that get delayed once or twice show the trouble in the development cycle usually by having a lot of issues. 10 years of delays? I can't imagine this being anything but insanely overhyped and horrible.DigitalExile

Considering the fact that there were literally hundreads of people playing and enjoying the game at the PAX live stream, that alone dissolves the point made by haters that its going to be another Daikana. Case closed about that, if it would have failed, those hundreats of gamers would have not enjoyed the game as they did there.

You have to be objective, and analize every situation possible. :P

[QUOTE="NThenIHadSumTea"]

Surely that's because it's a generic console FPS.

Regeneration (and don't tell me about that EGO crap. It's the same thng). No health bar, the screen just turns red when you get hurt. Modern-style sprint. Gamepad controls. YOU CANT CARRY MORE THAN TWO WEAPONS HURRR.

It's everything bad that happened to the FPS genre.

Baranga

- gaining health when dealing damage is not the same thing. It encourages combat, not taking cover.

- there's a big EGO bar. Who cares if the screen turns red? It's a problem when they also throw strawberry jam in your eyes, like in MW2.

- what's a modern-style sprint? Fatigue or what?

- and gamepad controls. Surely that's because they used gamepads. Or are we complaining about button prompts?

Carrying only two weapons is a shame though.

-Okay, that doesn't sound bad

-As long as I don't go blind and slow the hell down when I'm hurt, I'm okay with this too

-Fatigue + YOUR MOUSE SENSIVITY CHANGES TO 0.5 WHEN YOU SPRINT

-Gamepad adaptation dumbs down the controls.

old games from the 90's are still being played despite so many cutting age new gamesLucianu

>implying new games are fun

I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT! ALWAYS BET ON THE DUKE! The snobbish people who say "I couldn't care less about this game" were obviously not around when Duke 3d was ruling the streets. BLOW IT OUT YOUR $4$#!!!!!kimkim01

If it actually comes out this time and gets good reviews I will consider buying it. I am not holding my breath though on it actually being released as its been cancelled way to many times for that. It could happen again no one can predict the future in any certainty

My interest in this game peaked in 2001. Unfortunately, it has waned over the years.
I like Gearbox as a developer, but I'm far more interested in hearing about Aliens: Colonial Marines at this point.

Some of us actually gave up on the Duke awhile ago. I was around when Duke Nukem 3D came out so your logic is faulty. A game can only be delayed so long before we just stop caring. That doesn't go for everyone

If it actually comes out this time and gets good reviews I will consider buying it. I am not holding my breath though on it actually being released as its been cancelled way to many times for that. It could happen again no one can predict the future in any certainty

testfactor888

Also, this.

[QUOTE="JN_Fenrir"]

Wow, talk about disappointing. The game looks like typical watered-down, mainstream garbage to me. The slow run speed and weak jump height, the limit on how many weapons you can carry, the lame health regeneration, the stupid scripted sequences replacing real exploration and interactivity... Boo. It seems as though absolutely nothing has been carried over from the original game, and the result looks just like any other generic FPS. Even the shooting looked dull. Major boo. Essentially, it took them thirteen years to get to where we already were six years ago. What a joke. I hope it flops.

Hey, what do you get when you mix everything people hated about Halo with some cheesy nudity and lame stabs at toilet humor? Well, I don't know, but I'll tell you what you don't get: my money.

Lucianu

1. Didn't play the game.

2.Obviously didn't check out the FULL PAX live stream.

3. Have no idea of its features, or its gameplay in general.

4. Refuse to aknowledge the fact that FUN is subjective, and no one gives a f-k. Because IF the game will be fun, it will be played. Proof of that is that old games from the 90's are still being played despite so many cutting age new games.

Why i know you didn't check out the entire stream? That's not health generation, if you don't kill, you'll be killed. :P

1. Playing the game was not required to make the observations I made.

2. That's where I made my observations. Obviously.

3. Except for the features and gameplay I observed in the PAX videos.

4. If "fun" is subjective, then you can't prove or disprove that a game is fun. Therefore, your logic eats itself. That said, the game does not look "fun" to me, based on the observations I made regarding the PAX videos I watched. People still play old games because they offer something newer games do not, and since the majority of people interested in the follow-up to Duke3D are old-school gamers, it makes sense that the new game should, in following in its predecessor's footsteps, be more "old-school" in its design, which it clearly is not.

And yes, it's health regeneration. Just because you gain health by killing enemies rather than by standing around doesn't make it not health regeneration. It's still a lame way of holding the player's hand so they never have to actually watch their health or find medkits. It caters entirely to newer or less skilled players, and rips off the old-school gamers, to whom the series is most relevant.

The full game might end up being half-way decent overall, but what the videos have shown is downright terrible as a follow-up to Duke3D, and a stab in the back to those of us who've been waiting for it since 1997. It's kind of like waiting for the follow-up to Metallica's "...And Justice For All" and getting "The Black Album". And look, I haven't been expecting DNF to be a "second coming" level release or anything, but I hoped it would at least avoid most of the "streamlined" (read: dumbed-down) gameplay mechanics that drag down today's FPSs, and instead it seems to have adopted those on every level.

Next time, come to the table with real arguments instead of just attempting to discredit me with your empty assumptions.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="JN_Fenrir"]

Wow, talk about disappointing. The game looks like typical watered-down, mainstream garbage to me. The slow run speed and weak jump height, the limit on how many weapons you can carry, the lame health regeneration, the stupid scripted sequences replacing real exploration and interactivity... Boo. It seems as though absolutely nothing has been carried over from the original game, and the result looks just like any other generic FPS. Even the shooting looked dull. Major boo. Essentially, it took them thirteen years to get to where we already were six years ago. What a joke. I hope it flops.

Hey, what do you get when you mix everything people hated about Halo with some cheesy nudity and lame stabs at toilet humor? Well, I don't know, but I'll tell you what you don't get: my money.

JN_Fenrir

1. Didn't play the game.

2.Obviously didn't check out the FULL PAX live stream.

3. Have no idea of its features, or its gameplay in general.

4. Refuse to aknowledge the fact that FUN is subjective, and no one gives a f-k. Because IF the game will be fun, it will be played. Proof of that is that old games from the 90's are still being played despite so many cutting age new games.

Why i know you didn't check out the entire stream? That's not health generation, if you don't kill, you'll be killed. :P

1. Playing the game was not required to make the observations I made.

2. That's where I made my observations. Obviously.

3. Except for the features and gameplay I observed in the PAX videos.

4. If "fun" is subjective, then you can't prove or disprove that a game is fun. Therefore, your logic eats itself. That said, the game does not look "fun" to me, based on the observations I made regarding the PAX videos I watched. People still play old games because they offer something newer games do not, and since the majority of people interested in the follow-up to Duke3D are old-school gamers, it makes sense that the new game should, in following in its predecessor's footsteps, be more "old-school" in its design, which it clearly is not.

And yes, it's health regeneration. Just because you gain health by killing enemies rather than by standing around doesn't make it not health regeneration. It's still a lame way of holding the player's hand so they never have to actually watch their health or find medkits. It caters entirely to newer or less skilled players, and rips off the old-school gamers, to whom the series is most relevant.

The full game might end up being half-way decent overall, but what the videos have shown is downright terrible as a follow-up to Duke3D, and a stab in the back to those of us who've been waiting for it since 1997. It's kind of like waiting for the follow-up to Metallica's "...And Justice For All" and getting "The Black Album". And look, I haven't been expecting DNF to be a "second coming" level release or anything, but I hoped it would at least avoid most of the "streamlined" (read: dumbed-down) gameplay mechanics that drag down today's FPSs, and instead it seems to have adopted those on every level.

Next time, come to the table with real arguments instead of just attempting to discredit me with your empty assumptions.

1. Playing the game is necessary, so you can base your opinion on something more valid rather then a low quality live-stream, you can not judge how a game will be played, if you have not played it yourself, hence the saying "Don't judge it, before you play it".

2. Yeah, my bad. :P

3. Which is a small fraction, and ofcourse only have ben seen on a low quality live-stream with a shaky camera. That's hardly a valid point to base a entire opinion on.

4. Ofcourse i can't, neither can you prove then a game is terible or fun. Depends on how your experience is with the game, hence the terms "Fun is subjective", hence why you cannot judge it, if you have not played it. The only thing you have, is a prejudgment, and a flawed one at that, because : ->

Observing a well made review is one thing, and observing a low quality live stream with a shaky camera is another. Your base for your opinion is flawed and biased.

Next time, learn to understand the flaws of having a biased prejudice about a game that you have barely seen, and never played. Shows only childish ignorance, my friend..

[QUOTE="JN_Fenrir"]

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

1. Didn't play the game.

2.Obviously didn't check out the FULL PAX live stream.

3. Have no idea of its features, or its gameplay in general.

4. Refuse to aknowledge the fact that FUN is subjective, and no one gives a f-k. Because IF the game will be fun, it will be played. Proof of that is that old games from the 90's are still being played despite so many cutting age new games.

Why i know you didn't check out the entire stream? That's not health generation, if you don't kill, you'll be killed. :P

Lucianu

1. Playing the game was not required to make the observations I made.

2. That's where I made my observations. Obviously.

3. Except for the features and gameplay I observed in the PAX videos.

4. If "fun" is subjective, then you can't prove or disprove that a game is fun. Therefore, your logic eats itself. That said, the game does not look "fun" to me, based on the observations I made regarding the PAX videos I watched. People still play old games because they offer something newer games do not, and since the majority of people interested in the follow-up to Duke3D are old-school gamers, it makes sense that the new game should, in following in its predecessor's footsteps, be more "old-school" in its design, which it clearly is not.

And yes, it's health regeneration. Just because you gain health by killing enemies rather than by standing around doesn't make it not health regeneration. It's still a lame way of holding the player's hand so they never have to actually watch their health or find medkits. It caters entirely to newer or less skilled players, and rips off the old-school gamers, to whom the series is most relevant.

The full game might end up being half-way decent overall, but what the videos have shown is downright terrible as a follow-up to Duke3D, and a stab in the back to those of us who've been waiting for it since 1997. It's kind of like waiting for the follow-up to Metallica's "...And Justice For All" and getting "The Black Album". And look, I haven't been expecting DNF to be a "second coming" level release or anything, but I hoped it would at least avoid most of the "streamlined" (read: dumbed-down) gameplay mechanics that drag down today's FPSs, and instead it seems to have adopted those on every level.

Next time, come to the table with real arguments instead of just attempting to discredit me with your empty assumptions.

1. Playing the game is necessary, so you can base your opinion on something more valid rather then a low quality live-stream, you can not judge how a game will be played, if you have not played it yourself, hence the saying "Don't judge it, before you play it".

2. Yeah, my bad. :P

3. Which is a small fraction, and ofcourse only have ben seen on a low quality live-stream with a shaky camera. That's hardly a valid point to base a entire opinion on.

4. Ofcourse i can't, neither can you prove then a game is terible or fun. Depends on how your experience is with the game, hence the terms "Fun is subjective", hence why you cannot judge it, if you have not played it. The only thing you have, is a prejudgment, and a flawed one at that, because : ->

Observing a well made review is one thing, and observing a low quality live stream with a shaky camera is another. Your base for your opinion is flawed and biased.

Next time, learn to understand the flaws of having a biased prejudice about a game that you have barely seen, and never played. Shows only childish ignorance, my friend..

My opinion is perfectly valid, thank you. Forming an opinion about something that is clearly demonstrated fact is neither "biased" or "prejudiced," and what I have a problem with are things that are clearly demonstrated in the PAX videos. That includes the slow run speed, low jump height, the fact that you can only carry two weapons, and the regenerating health system. These are all serious negative points in my opinion, and I don't have to play the game or see high-quality video to observe them, just as I don't have to actually go see the Mona Lisa or get a high-res photo of it to know that she's a brunette, or that I think it's a boring painting.

Since you haven't actually addressed any of the points I've made about the game, I'm going to assume you are just arguing with me for the sake of defending it. Hey, I can understand that, and I'm sorry I don't share your enthusiasm for the game, but my opinion, based on the points I've made, is that it looks stupid, watered-down and boring. I wish I had a different opinion too, believe me. This certainly isn't the way I wanted to see the long-awaited sequel to one of my favorite games of all time treated. If you are taking the stance of trying not to form an opinion yet, then more power to you, but don't try to discredit my opinion just because you don't happen to like it.

Why do people care about this game? it looks nothing special.

Considering the fact that there were literally hundreads of people playing and enjoying the game at the PAX live stream, that alone dissolves the point made by haters that its going to be another Daikana. Case closed about that, if it would have failed, those hundreats of gamers would have not enjoyed the game as they did there.

You have to be objective, and analize every situation possible. :P

Lucianu

What exactly about it is groundbreaking? What's new? What's in this that I can't get from other shooters or games? Crude and immature humour?

Exactly. All this has going for it is the amount of hype surrounding its incredibly long development cycle.

You have never played Duke 3D if you're wondering why people are so hyped.

What we saw yesterday - not to mention the leaked info from last year - shows this is the sequel every Duke fan has been waiting for.

Blame Gearbox for weapon selection though. It originally had a HL2-styIe weapon menu.

[QUOTE="NThenIHadSumTea"]

Hey look! They ruined the series by making the new game generic and brown!

I sure didn't expect that!

This is not duke. This is an autistic child of MW2 and Borderlands.

Thank you, consoles.

Baranga

Surely that's because half of the demo was set in a desert?

Also, Borderlands is colourful.

[QUOTE="spiderman120988"]After 13 years, I think they deserve my 50 bucks! =DDynV

If it doesn't look like the 2001 trailer with the casino strip, the gunboat ride, the floating giant head aliens & the hillbilly, I'll wait until the price drop ; I want THAT game, which is forever for me. I don't mind if the franchise realse soemthing else of the franchise but I'd mind passing it under an awaited title with expectations set a while back.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="NThenIHadSumTea"]

Hey look! They ruined the series by making the new game generic and brown!

I sure didn't expect that!

This is not duke. This is an autistic child of MW2 and Borderlands.

Thank you, consoles.

dakan45

Surely that's because half of the demo was set in a desert?

Also, Borderlands is colourful.

Except that there are gadgets, big maps with jumping around, varied weapons and there's no health regen.

Next time you play Borderlands try not to look only at the ground.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Considering the fact that there were literally hundreads of people playing and enjoying the game at the PAX live stream, that alone dissolves the point made by haters that its going to be another Daikana. Case closed about that, if it would have failed, those hundreats of gamers would have not enjoyed the game as they did there.

You have to be objective, and analize every situation possible. :P

DigitalExile

What exactly about it is groundbreaking? What's new? What's in this that I can't get from other shooters or games? Crude and immature humour?

Exactly. All this has going for it is the amount of hype surrounding its incredibly long development cycle.

Ofcourse not like me, i am not objective, can't be. And i never said i was.

What exactly is groundbreaking? New? I don't care, you don't understand. If its fun, and if it gets at least a 8 from major gaming sites, i am buying it, regardless of any inovation, regardless of anything new because the fundamental reason of a game is entertainment, and one must play it to see if it is entertaining.

Do you comprehend now the basic understanding of subjectivity? You may have high standards for a game, but that does not mean other people have the same standards you do, that's why we have human diversity. I hope you understand, because i'm to old to argue with strangers on the net...

About the crude and immature humour.. ? Well, i'm 32, have a job & family, and i happen to like crude and immature humour. Sue me. :P

Since you haven't actually addressed any of the points I've made about the game, I'm going to assume you are just arguing with me for the sake of defending it. Hey, I can understand that, and I'm sorry I don't share your enthusiasm for the game, but my opinion, based on the points I've made, is that it looks stupid, watered-down and boring. I wish I had a different opinion too, believe me. This certainly isn't the way I wanted to see the long-awaited sequel to one of my favorite games of all time treated. If you are taking the stance of trying not to form an opinion yet, then more power to you, but don't try to discredit my opinion just because you don't happen to like it.JN_Fenrir

I'm sorry, without you playing the game itself and judging it from small live-stream low quality videos is what bothered me.. But i guess i have to stop here, since now i understand what your saying, well made constructive post.

Why do people care about this game? it looks nothing special.

Daytona_178

If you were gaming 15 years ago, you would know the answer to this question.

Amazing news.

Although Gearbox tampering with it leaves me skeptical, I doubt any developer would be stupid enough to throw away such an occasion to earn a name.

The limit of 2 weapons at time is the only thing that bothers me of what we've seen so far.

Amazing news.

Although Gearbox tampering with it leaves me skeptical, I doubt any developer would be stupid enough to throw away such an occasion to earn a name.

The limit of 2 weapons at time is the only thing that bothers me of what we've seen so far.

Mograine

I'm not really too worried about Gearbox. They have made some excellent games, IMO.

The one thing i'm irritated about is the changes the made to the game due to the consoles. Duke has always been a PC game and should have remained a PC game.

I pulled this quote out of system wars. Some big 3DR developer posted it at shacknews.

Yeah, blame us for it if you want. It may change in the future and I don't know what will happen with it, but it was us. I stand by it too, as you cannot discount designing games for a modern world and part of that world is consoles where the bulk of the sales can be. And on those consoles you have a controller. We tried for a long time to support lots of guns but we simply could not find a nice way to map it to a controller, despite trying 4-5 designs. We gave it enough time and decided to stop swimming against the current and adopt what was basically the "standard".

:(

I'm not really too worried about Gearbox. They have made some excellent games, IMO.

The one thing i'm irritated about is the changes the made to the game due to the consoles. Duke has always been a PC game and should have remained a PC game.

I pulled this quote out of system wars. Some big 3DR developer posted it at shacknews.

Yeah, blame us for it if you want. It may change in the future and I don't know what will happen with it, but it was us. I stand by it too, as you cannot discount designing games for a modern world and part of that world is consoles where the bulk of the sales can be. And on those consoles you have a controller. We tried for a long time to support lots of guns but we simply could not find a nice way to map it to a controller, despite trying 4-5 designs. We gave it enough time and decided to stop swimming against the current and adopt what was basically the "standard".

:(

mkaliaz

Seriously?

^This is a wheel. It was invented thousands of years ago.

It amazes me how some people cannot grasp such a single design.

That^ is the concsole version as far as i remember in the pc version the hud is diffirent and not a wheel.dakan45

That's the point.

If they wanted to make a decent control scheme instead of limiting the weapon choice to two at a time, they would have put numerical selection on PC and a wheel on consoles.

[QUOTE="kimkim01"]I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT! ALWAYS BET ON THE DUKE! The snobbish people who say "I couldn't care less about this game" were obviously not around when Duke 3d was ruling the streets. BLOW IT OUT YOUR $4$#!!!!!testfactor888

If it actually comes out this time and gets good reviews I will consider buying it. I am not holding my breath though on it actually being released as its been cancelled way to many times for that. It could happen again no one can predict the future in any certainty

Forgive the faulty logic, it was all the excitement.

At least the devs aren't going to make us their beech.

In my eyes, it doesn't need a good review. The mere fact that it was able to push out of the gates after all this time is reason enough for me to get this game.