Are you people serious? You doubt companies have viral marketers?:lol:
Anyway, here's some minor proof in favour of this story:
The entire thread can be found in the chanarchive.
There's also a reddit thread but, well, I don't go there:P
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People trust 4Ch*n now?
biggest_loser
i donn't but some people here cleraly show that behaviour, so it wouldn't be surprise.
[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]
People trust 4Ch*n now?
Krelian-co
i donn't but some people here cleraly show that behaviour, so it wouldn't be surprise.
Enough to publish an article clearly. Let's be honest though, do you really doubt them or any major company doing this? Really cheap marketing for them.If you don't want to be a hypocrite then you should know that EA made The Sims, they didn't buy any rights, absolutely any Sims game was funded and entirely owned by EA and the series was always developed this way, the only thing you can say without being a hypocrite is that it lost its charm.
DanielDust
Maxis started the Sims and was bought out by EA - you are not correct. The buyout wasn't entire and Will Wright had developer rights until Sims 2 was finished - when he and his team left was the end of the Sims and the beginning of EA development.
On another note, EA is still in the running for the worst company in america.
http://consumerist.com/2012/03/a-round-of-applause-please-for-your-worst-company-in-america-2012-semifinalists.html
[QUOTE="DanielDust"]
If you don't want to be a hypocrite then you should know that EA made The Sims, they didn't buy any rights, absolutely any Sims game was funded and entirely owned by EA and the series was always developed this way, the only thing you can say without being a hypocrite is that it lost its charm.
Darocy
Maxis started the Sims and was bought out by EA - you are not correct. The buyout wasn't entire and Will Wright had developer rights until Sims 2 was finished - when he and his team left was the end of the Sims and the beginning of EA development.
EA funded and developed the entire Sims series, because they owned Maxis before the first Sims was created and all the expansions that followed, Maxis and DICE are at the core of EA, they were/are entirely owned by EA. Will Wright is just an excuse you're looking for, but it's not a good one, you simply lost interest, because Sims 3 is better than 2 which was better than 1 and they all got a shtload of expansions with only a few patches (they never bothered fixing any Sims, not entirely). Will Wright had good concepts and contributed to a phenomenon (that anyone can easily continue to enhance, all you need is a better engine and even more items), but Will Wright as a game designer is as good as Karmack if he'd still be a genius, they aren't, they're terrible even, they might have good ideas, but they've been incapable of applying them in reality for years, because that's where everyone goes sooner or later, any company or individual will go bad after a while, nobody can be brilliant in entertainment for more than a few titles/projects.On another note, EA is still in the running for the worst company in america.
http://consumerist.com/2012/03/a-round-of-applause-please-for-your-worst-company-in-america-2012-semifinalists.html
xLittlekillx
This is bull****. Whoever pays attention to this "competition" is an idiot.
I don't know if this counts a proof but the guy in the article said EA is going to buy out some Asian company and currently EA is hiring people in Asia or training people.
As for why EA is such an evil company but has all this money its because of, well there is no name for it but here is how I see it. You have Mass Effect and Dragon Age 1. Mass Effect 1 was made before EA and Dragon Age origins was too far into development for EA to change it. So Mass Effect 1 got to be developed as a true RPG and to Biowares intenions and Dragon Age origins was as well. Both games come out and did well. So when it came time for the sequels EA wanted to cash in. The hardcore crowd is going to by the game regardless but now they need to appeal to the cod and gears of war only people. So they make Mass Effect 2 more of a shooter and Dragon Age 2 more action based. The hardcore crowd buys the game because they want to play the sequel and the casual crowd buys Mass Effect 2 for a shooter and Dragon Age 2 for an action game. Then it comes time for part 3. The causals won't play it unless it is like part 2 and to get the hardcores to buy part 3 we are promised the game will go back to its roots or there will be more RPG elements. Plus regardless it is part 3so EA is like "ya they are going to want to see how it ends so even if they don't like what we tried to fix for them they will probably buy the game anyway" That is how I see it at least.
I don't understand how people blame EA for Bioware's games being more dumbed down. They've been doing this since Black Isle imploded. KOTOR was an abomination of DnD rules. NwN was a turd saved by a strong modding capabilities. And don't you people remember Jade Empire?
Bioware makes the games they want, simple as that.
It's worth noting that DA2, after strong initial sales, tanked so bad retailers refused to pick up the potential Ultimate Edition and the expansion was canned.
A shame because it's a better game than DAO:P
I think a few people in this thread are on EA's payroll....
They were a good company but recently in the last year or 2 ive quickly lost faith in them. They are just as bad if not worse then Activision to me. They dont care about games just about $$$[QUOTE="Darocy"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]
If you don't want to be a hypocrite then you should know that EA made The Sims, they didn't buy any rights, absolutely any Sims game was funded and entirely owned by EA and the series was always developed this way, the only thing you can say without being a hypocrite is that it lost its charm.
DanielDust
Maxis started the Sims and was bought out by EA - you are not correct. The buyout wasn't entire and Will Wright had developer rights until Sims 2 was finished - when he and his team left was the end of the Sims and the beginning of EA development.
EA funded and developed the entire Sims series, because they owned Maxis before the first Sims was created and all the expansions that followed, Maxis and DICE are at the core of EA, they were/are entirely owned by EA. Will Wright is just an excuse you're looking for, but it's not a good one, you simply lost interest, because Sims 3 is better than 2 which was better than 1 and they all got a shtload of expansions with only a few patches (they never bothered fixing any Sims, not entirely). Will Wright had good concepts and contributed to a phenomenon (that anyone can easily continue to enhance, all you need is a better engine and even more items), but Will Wright as a game designer is as good as Karmack if he'd still be a genius, they aren't, they're terrible even, they might have good ideas, but they've been incapable of applying them in reality for years, because that's where everyone goes sooner or later, any company or individual will go bad after a while, nobody can be brilliant in entertainment for more than a few titles/projects. I have to disagree here. Will Wright is probaly one of the best game designers out there, who else have made a series that contiune to sell as many units and make that much money? remember people are not doing game design to please a small core of hardcore gamers, they do it to make themself and their company tons of money and if you take The Sims 1+2+3 and add all the expansions and their micro-transactions they have made more money then any other game except Blizzards Wow. I will agree in some sense that he hasn´t brought that much new and inovative into the gaming world but then we are over in a debate about videogames and if its art.I think a few people in this thread are on EA's payroll....
They were a good company but recently in the last year or 2 ive quickly lost faith in them. They are just as bad if not worse then Activision to me. They dont care about games just about $$$IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
Hmm, you think they at one point didn´t care about the money??? if they didnt care about the money i bet we wouldnt have a EA today.
And also who doesnt in the gaming world care about profit?
[QUOTE="Darocy"]You speak the truth? because its a load of BS that you need to validate online each time you play. But i get that EA is the big bad evil company who hate gamers and just want to ruin the life of gamers just because they are, and there is no sound reasoning behind that . still funny tho that most people play it, if it was that bad i wonder why people keep buying their games.I am ashamed to admit that I bought the Sims 3 - in the forums I posted about how EA is selling crap and not fixing it just making more expansions. My forum posting was banned and they blocked me from being able to play Sims (along with the reat of the games by EA) for over a week (requires online validation to play each time you boot it). This was before Origin took over the launcher.
There was no warning or explanation on the ban - BTW I was not the only one this happened to and still happens - if you post negatively on their forums it will be locked and banned without any warning.
I will not after this experience rent (you don't own their games) any games from EA/Origin for the very reason that all games are attched to the launcher and if banned you will not be able to play any of them.
The Sims is a franchise that was a quality product at one time till EA bought the rights and Sims 3 sucs with all the expansions. If you read the forums most of the people who complained or ask for solutions to problems the posts are buried in glowing or positive crap posts.
When any new expansion/stuff pack released they do the same positive spin in the forums to fight against any bad or negative posts about the release and there are plenty.
This is just one franchise of the many that EA/Origin will grind money from till they cannot get anymore from it they choke the crap out of any good material thay get their hands on.
I know steam (and others) has the same kind of launcher but have never banned people from playing all of their games like Origin can and will for any slight breach of their EULA in forums.
Be warned I do speak the truth.
Jacanuk
EA didn't get big by making great games though. EA make a sh!tload of money with years of rehashed, mass marketed, bullsh!t sports games, bought up by the millions by meathead morons and casual gamers. Then they spent that money buying up a whole mess of smaller developing companies, populated with people who knew how to make quality games. Then they mass marketed more games from these developers, using throwing their own, overly commercialized spin into it, resulting in games that people still buy and play, because they belong to loved franchises, even though they are almost universally accepted as being inferior to the games these companies made, prior to becoming EA subsidiaries.
This is unlike companies such as Valve and Blizzard, who made great reputations for themselves with original, well done, fantastic games, many of which are heralded these days as revolutions in their respective genres, and have since gotten huge, by making more great games, and keeping devoted customers by not screwing them with the kind of crap EA does.
Also a funny thing is that the people that work there love it. And EA is one of the best companies to work for if you are gay/lesbian.
But they are such dicks to their customers.
Its pretty low to hire people to downplay competitors products. But I have nothing againts that they hire people to shout out their products, pretty much the same as buying ad time on tv.
Nohtnym
well no it isn't. in an ad on tv you know who is the source of the information so you also know it's not an objective opinion or fact and are more likely to give proper merit to the information. when you don't know who is actually behind the information or the agenda of the person feeding it to you, as you would normally have no reason to think they are much different as yourself posting on a forum, then it goes more towards a situation of manipulation.
i think it is safe to conclude that there is something rotten about your business practice if you need to resort to tactics that incorporate deceit and spreading misinformation to sell your product. i am not that naive to think this can't be true and happening right now but surely it warrants disapproval across the board.
I don't understand how people blame EA for Bioware's games being more dumbed down. They've been doing this since Black Isle imploded. KOTOR was an abomination of DnD rules. NwN was a turd saved by a strong modding capabilities. And don't you people remember Jade Empire?
Bioware makes the games they want, simple as that.
It's worth noting that DA2, after strong initial sales, tanked so bad retailers refused to pick up the potential Ultimate Edition and the expansion was canned.
A shame because it's a better game than DAO:P
Baranga
Agreed.
I'm surprised at how many people still insist that Bioware is pure perfection, and it's only EA that is bringing down their games.
They stopped making really deep RPGs back in 2001, and everything since then has been on a downhill slide towards the pure bro-gaming console action market (with a slight bump when DAO came out, but that was a poor attempt at an Infinity Engine RPG).
I don't understand how people blame EA for Bioware's games being more dumbed down. They've been doing this since Black Isle imploded. KOTOR was an abomination of DnD rules. NwN was a turd saved by a strong modding capabilities. And don't you people remember Jade Empire?
Bioware makes the games they want, simple as that.
It's worth noting that DA2, after strong initial sales, tanked so bad retailers refused to pick up the potential Ultimate Edition and the expansion was canned.
A shame because it's a better game than DAO:P
Baranga
You need someone to throw the blame on, and EA is an easy target.
But yeah, Bioware went downhill after BG2, with their games getting more and more simplified, with the sole exception being DAO. And DAO is dumbed down from Baldur's Gate, and really fails to capture what made the infinity engine games so good.
Its pretty low to hire people to downplay competitors products. But I have nothing againts that they hire people to shout out their products, pretty much the same as buying ad time on tv.
Nohtnym
welcome to 21th century, moral in business means nothing.
The 1-post necroers generally come from Amazon Turk or a similar crowdsourcing service. I use it myself to make a little extra money on the side, but I avoid doing ones that require you to spam forums.I've always had the feeling that a few of these paid-to-post types were on these boards, too.
-wildflower-
Even Baldur's Gate 2 was more action-oriented for its time. It wasn't even turn-based. KotOR had a pretty simplistic character building system but I really liked it regardless. I don't hate Mass Effect just because I want Dragon Age to be as it was originally intended to. I just take it or leave it.I don't understand how people blame EA for Bioware's games being more dumbed down. They've been doing this since Black Isle imploded. KOTOR was an abomination of DnD rules. NwN was a turd saved by a strong modding capabilities. And don't you people remember Jade Empire?
Bioware makes the games they want, simple as that.
It's worth noting that DA2, after strong initial sales, tanked so bad retailers refused to pick up the potential Ultimate Edition and the expansion was canned.
A shame because it's a better game than DAO:P
Baranga
Some people simply refuse to take their sword out of their asses though and let go. You can't always get what you want. Like remember the time I wantedsome people to pull their sword out of their asses and let go? (uh, not you btw) I can't get that
[QUOTE="Baranga"]
I don't understand how people blame EA for Bioware's games being more dumbed down. They've been doing this since Black Isle imploded. KOTOR was an abomination of DnD rules. NwN was a turd saved by a strong modding capabilities. And don't you people remember Jade Empire?
Bioware makes the games they want, simple as that.
It's worth noting that DA2, after strong initial sales, tanked so bad retailers refused to pick up the potential Ultimate Edition and the expansion was canned.
A shame because it's a better game than DAO:P
Maroxad
You need someone to throw the blame on, and EA is an easy target.
But yeah, Bioware went downhill after BG2, with their games getting more and more simplified, with the sole exception being DAO. And DAO is dumbed down from Baldur's Gate, and really fails to capture what made the infinity engine games so good.
I'm just saying, you must really like South Park! I wonder what some people would have thought if BioWare was making a South Park RPG. I think aside from the obvious, they'd say: "Hey, that's Obsidian's job!" At least I would.[QUOTE="Baranga"]
I don't understand how people blame EA for Bioware's games being more dumbed down. They've been doing this since Black Isle imploded. KOTOR was an abomination of DnD rules. NwN was a turd saved by a strong modding capabilities. And don't you people remember Jade Empire?
Bioware makes the games they want, simple as that.
It's worth noting that DA2, after strong initial sales, tanked so bad retailers refused to pick up the potential Ultimate Edition and the expansion was canned.
A shame because it's a better game than DAO:P
Planeforger
Agreed.
I'm surprised at how many people still insist that Bioware is pure perfection, and it's only EA that is bringing down their games.
They stopped making really deep RPGs back in 2001, and everything since then has been on a downhill slide towards the pure bro-gaming console action market (with a slight bump when DAO came out, but that was a poor attempt at an Infinity Engine RPG).
[QUOTE="SPBoss"]No one likes you EAJacanukYet EA sells more games then any other company..... Think its the same as the debate about building/buying a computer, a very small minority is the most vocal about building your own when the majority just goes and buys a prebuilt.
your point being? majority rule sucks? ;)
Yet EA sells more games then any other company..... Think its the same as the debate about building/buying a computer, a very small minority is the most vocal about building your own when the majority just goes and buys a prebuilt.[QUOTE="Jacanuk"][QUOTE="SPBoss"]No one likes you EABLKR4330
your point being? majority rule sucks? ;)
LOL But a majority is still a majority :D[QUOTE="BLKR4330"][QUOTE="Jacanuk"] Yet EA sells more games then any other company..... Think its the same as the debate about building/buying a computer, a very small minority is the most vocal about building your own when the majority just goes and buys a prebuilt.Jacanuk
your point being? majority rule sucks? ;)
LOL But a majority is still a majority :Ddo you work for EA?This is the same company that staged a fake protest againt Dante's Inferno when nobody cared enough to make a real one, and also have 98% of their BF3 marketing basically ripping off CoD's marketing and going for the CoD crowd.
So yeah, I wouldn't put it past them to do this, and that's putting it lightly.
[QUOTE="iwilson1296"]do you work for EA? Yep, and i get paid 200k a year to defend EA :Dthey really pay you that much?, you seem pretty determined to defend them...$=motivaion i guess[QUOTE="Jacanuk"] LOL But a majority is still a majority :DJacanuk
Yep, and i get paid 200k a year to defend EA :Dthey really pay you that much?, you seem pretty determined to defend them...$=motivaion i guess Nah, they don't pay *that* well. :D Games industry, man![QUOTE="Jacanuk"][QUOTE="iwilson1296"]do you work for EA?
iwilson1296
A danish company in Denmark hired 20 employee's to care for - and maintain the company image on the interweb.
Their job was to scout through the interweb on forums, blogs, etc. and look for comments about the company.
They should spread the good image of the company, and leave good comments in discussions about the company.
The company is called El Giganten.
This was in the news last week, im surprised EA's has not listed the job offering for their - what - 5k people large interweb scouting corps.
And yesterday we had a thread defending EA as not being the worst company in america... seems like people are turning yet again lol. It seems stupid to be against the branding of the worst company in america simply because asside from the banking crisis this is a company that takes what is a creative industry based on trying to give people a good experince in a hobby which relaxes people and others super exited to have fun with their friends ans just simply ****s all over it.
I don't see the need for such an aggressive stance from EA towards the gaming community. Its a constantly growing industry and with their wealth they should be investing in development studios that create great games and let them get on with it. They will reap the returns if its a good game.
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