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#1 -Unreal-
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Kevin VanOrd has given his review for Square Enix's new MMORPG.

What do you think of the score? Have you played the game? Have you bought the game? What did you think of it?

Personally he pretty much sums up everything I noticed from the beta and confirmed my suspicions that they wouldn't change it in the small amount of time they had before it would launch.

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#2 AfroPirate
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I giggled when i saw it.

I lol'd to bad. APB had a higher score and failed in a few months.

Now let us wait for the servers to shut down.

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#3 StopThePresses
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I'm not very surprised, given that this is the company behind Final Fantasy XI. "This isn't fun. It's work." Sounds about right. (Seems a little early to have a review for this game though, with it being a MMORPG, doesn't it?)
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#4 psp_mtness
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im enjoying it, i do agree with a lot of the difficulty issues brought up in the review, its a nightmare to learn the game if you dont have help, fortunately i did and im actually enjoying it, its got a steep learning curve and as its a grinding rpg can see why some might be put off by it, im around 35-40hrs into it and i think its one of those the more you play it the more enjoyable it gets, at the moment ive given it a 7.5/10, with the two main grips i have being the Buy/sell of items and the p2p patch method, other than that ive gotten used to the laggy interface and for me ill see if the issue gets addressed over the next months, ive paid for a 6 month subscription and that will give me time to see if things are addressed and if so, it will continue to get my support.

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#5 neatfeatguy
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I laughed at the score and skimmed through the review...I'm kind of shocked it was such a shoddy setup. It's also a shame to see such a well known name from a game franchise being tied to something that scored so low. I mean, hey, Aion was given a better score and that MMO tends to be bashed more then praised on Gamespot forums. Hopefully the kinks are worked out and FFXIV gets improved upon drastically and soon. It's always nice to have a larger pool to pick from when it comes to MMOs, instead of constantly hearing crap about WoW. So here's hoping that FFXIV gets off the ground and keeps on running.
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#6 Vexx88
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There is an article floating around some where if I can find it...about Amazon.jp and a bunch of people already rating it badly in Japan before this review even hit. That article is only like 2 days old. Square basically said: "Don't judge it yet give a month!" I don't know what they could do in a month to this game to bring it up from the hatestorm its in right now.

EDIT - Here it is. Ok maybe I over exaggerated but they still wanted to wait basically until the end of October for reviews.

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#7 -Unreal-
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They should have just waited longer to release it and test it properly.

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#8 SkyWard20
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I didn't expect that. I actually wanted to buy the game, but then I saw the Gamespot user score. -_-

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#10 Birdy09
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Released too early, though the core concept is just work? I guess our freind kevin didnt play any MMO pre-WoW? I was expecting a similar score to EVE ONLINE, since 6.6 on release was ridiculously low for what it is now, I expect the same to happen with this. Most of the complaints are fixable, but im sorry "the map is a abomination" and alto of his nitpicks are incredible overblown. though "searching for needed items" is an incredible accurate statement. There is quest writing... its in the damn leve, just like in WoWs quest discription window. nitpicks maybe, hes right, its current state is poor, but majority of it is fixable, and I'd request a re-review in a few months, such potential shouldnt be wasted.
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#11 IU_Stizzal
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I just saw the review. I was expecting a 6 or 6.5, but wow thats just a big disappointment. I'm interested in seeing how IGN scores it.

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#12 PcGamingRig
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I giggled when i saw it.

I lol'd to bad. APB had a higher score and failed in a few months.

Now let us wait for the servers to shut down.

AfroPirate

i doubt the servers will shut completely down because japanese people will probably still play it in their hordes, maybe the american/uk servers.

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#13 Nino_ze
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it'll go f2p in a couple of months, probably
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#14 masterdrat
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Released too early, though the core concept is just work? I guess our freind kevin didnt play any MMO pre-WoW? I was expecting a similar score to EVE ONLINE, since 6.6 on release was ridiculously low for what it is now, I expect the same to happen with this. Most of the complaints are fixable, but im sorry "the map is a abomination" and alto of his nitpicks are incredible overblown. though "searching for needed items" is an incredible accurate statement. There is quest writing... its in the damn leve, just like in WoWs quest discription window. nitpicks maybe, hes right, its current state is poor, but majority of it is fixable, and I'd request a re-review in a few months, such potential shouldnt be wasted.

Problem is, the list of easy to fix issues very very long and more importantly, SE is ignoring it and makes no effort into trying to convince us they are working on these issues, instead they release non-sense information about incoming features that we don't care about. And worst, they are trying to sell us a fix which we know is going to be a complete failure even before it's been done, it's kind of throwing gas on the fire.
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#15 Vexx88
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I just saw the review. I was expecting a 6 or 6.5, but wow thats just a big disappointment. I'm interested in seeing how IGN scores it.

IU_Stizzal
As of late with Japanese devs they have been giving the same scores. IT might be higher on IGN but not much higher.
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#16 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="AfroPirate"]i doubt the servers will shut completely down because japanese people will probably still play it in their hordes, maybe the american/uk servers.

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There are no american or uk servers, we all play together. [QUOTE="masterdrat"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]Released too early, though the core concept is just work? I guess our freind kevin didnt play any MMO pre-WoW? I was expecting a similar score to EVE ONLINE, since 6.6 on release was ridiculously low for what it is now, I expect the same to happen with this. Most of the complaints are fixable, but im sorry "the map is a abomination" and alto of his nitpicks are incredible overblown. though "searching for needed items" is an incredible accurate statement. There is quest writing... its in the damn leve, just like in WoWs quest discription window. nitpicks maybe, hes right, its current state is poor, but majority of it is fixable, and I'd request a re-review in a few months, such potential shouldnt be wasted.

Problem is, the list of easy to fix issues very very long and more importantly, SE is ignoring it and makes no effort into trying to convince us they are working on these issues, instead they release non-sense information about incoming features that we don't care about. And worst, they are trying to sell us a fix which we know is going to be a complete failure even before it's been done, it's kind of throwing gas on the fire.

You have a very good point. though I believe market wards can work with a search function, and some relatively more impactful features, I dont know what features your talking about though, to each his own. im annoyed that they think teleport with anima is more reliable than chocobo mounts... obsurd. Theres 6 metacritic reviews right now 3 positive, 1 middle, 2 negative, its going to be a love hate title. and whiel I like Kevins reviews, he comes off heavily as a blizzard fan, which just tells me he likes blizzards direction much better. "It lacks character; bare-bones quests and audiovisual repetition fail to instill a sense of fantasy wonder. It lacks cohesion; communication failures, economic oddities, and stringent limitations leave you constantly directionless. And it lacks joy; the abysmal interface and boring monsters make it a struggle to stay invested." Bare-bones quests in a game, where leves are just a bonus? its not aimed at the fed ex quest lovers.... and excuse me but I didnt see any kind of central story line in WoW other than what they shove in 1 cgi, or a trailer at the endgame, theres only 1 every 5 levels at the moment, but the guilds arnt unlocked (not kevins fault, thats squares). I disagree with large world (and im sorry, theres plenty of copy and paste in World of Warcraft, not as much.... but its noticable) also crafting every single peice made the world look small and overly deliberate, I was much more immersed in a larger world. but anyway, yes the game shouldn't of released yet, but like EVE, the potential is there, kevin has done whats necessary, but seriously, this review is harsh.
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#17 JERONIMO888
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I couldnt agree more with this review thank God people like him still exist to save our money from buying crap games, i saw a lot of gameplay videos even from beta and i never liked this mmo for all the reasons Kevin said and my number one reason is NO PVP.... Carebear mmo with crap gameplay and nice graphics nothing more.
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#18 N30F3N1X
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Forget WoW, FF14 is a real cataclysm.

Seems like the more MMOs try to compete with WoW, the more WoW gets free advertising. It's hilarious.

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#19 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Released too early, though the core concept is just work? I guess our freind kevin didnt play any MMO pre-WoW? I was expecting a similar score to EVE ONLINE, since 6.6 on release was ridiculously low for what it is now, I expect the same to happen with this. Most of the complaints are fixable, but im sorry "the map is a abomination" and alto of his nitpicks are incredible overblown. though "searching for needed items" is an incredible accurate statement. There is quest writing... its in the damn leve, just like in WoWs quest discription window. nitpicks maybe, hes right, its current state is poor, but majority of it is fixable, and I'd request a re-review in a few months, such potential shouldnt be wasted.

Any MMO is fixable, but it sounds like this game is just rubbish. Its going to take some mighty large patches to get this a score where its anything close to even average.
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#20 MyopicCanadian
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I've been playing it.. the review is overly harsh. Let's ignore the fact that at least the game works and has worked since launch, and that's a lot more than can be said about other MMO's that have scored higher on this site.

The main problems with the game as of now, are that the UI is awful, ahd there's too much lag during combat. Also the game desperately needs an auction house. I just think that too many people have now been trained into thinking that MMO = quest grind, and that you'll be led by the hand from quest to quest to quest, until the endgame. Well there aren't that many quests, and there is no endgame. So people come in expecting one thing and find something else.

But what IS there is actually fairly enjoyable. The world is fresh and interesting, the class system and mixing of skills is unbeatable, and overall the game can suck you in really easily. I rarely get that feeling from MMO's these days.

I also wish, though, that the world was much bigger than it is. I haven't explored *every* area but I have been through most of the zones, and there isn't all that much to see. I think I'm still chasing something like Everquest and I'm probably never going to find it.

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#21 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Not surprised based on my experience of FF 11...
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#22 Buttons1990
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Dang man... Dozens of hours in and you are still killing rats? In virtually all other MMOs you are doing end game content at that point...?

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#23 XaosII
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The fact that this was made by both an RPG veteran development studio and an MMO veteran development studio only makes these amateurish mistakes even more inexcusable.

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#24 masterdrat
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"] You have a very good point. though I believe market wards can work with a search function, and some relatively more impactful features, I dont know what features your talking about though, to each his own. im annoyed that they think teleport with anima is more reliable than chocobo mounts... obsurd.

I was talking about Path Companion.
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#25 StopThePresses
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Not surprised based on my experience of FF 11... sSubZerOo

Yeah, that's pretty much what I said. We live in a post-WoW world. Most people aren't going to deal with this crap anymore, at least in the Western game market. There are reasons WoW blew everything away that came before it. At least you can play this one without standing around for an hour to find a tank and healer every time I guess.

Guild Wars 2 is practically guaranteed to be far superior, and there won't be a subscription for that.

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#26 wis3boi
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They should have just waited longer to release it and test it properly.

-Unreal-
not sure if that would have helped. They would need to completely redo all the questing, limits, crafting, and especially the interface to make FF14 any fun at all. I played the betas and alpha and I really wanted to get into it, but I just couldn't......i almost felt like SE should have given me a salary to play the game, because it was indeed a job, not a game. It's sad to see such a beautiful world and great looking characters and classes go to waste like that.
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#27 Kh1ndjal
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i think i can agree with this review. lets look at things i cannot tolerate in an mmo. 1. interface. you spend hours and hours and hours looking at it during your play time. why can't the inventory be opened with a single key? there is no excuse for this, you do not need to wait a month to fix this, this should be in pre-pre-pre-pre-alpha. can't even zoom the map out. 2. grinding. when i see the icon of an mmo on my desktop, i think what i will be doing for the next 40 minutes. if it involves something ridiculously tedious like watching the same animation over and over i am not going to click that icon. all mmos have some kind of grind, but some disguise it better than others, FFXIV doesn't seem to try. 3. killing rats. i dont know what else to call this. in the video, a character is seen killing 1 (one) rat the size of his shoe, with a weapon 25 times the length of the rat, by poking it for half a minute. this is plain silly. cant they have giant rats? bears? tigers? compare this with guildwars, in which 20 minutes into the game you FEEL like a hero. not an inexperienced exterminator. 4. not knowing what to do. questhelper is an insanely popular addon for WoW. Guildwars allows you to see A TON of help topics from within the game that are on the wiki (not that there is any confusion about it). LOTRO has similar interface additions. GW2 will take this further. i think the majority of the players enjoy having some sense of direction of what to do or where to go. from what i can tell, this really is a step backwards for the genre. you know when you see a new mmo and you suddenly you get hyped about it, but when you think about it for a bit longer you realize it's not really as good as you want it to be (APB for example). with FFXIV you know EXACTLY what's wrong with it. some people are going to say that im a different player looking for a different mmo. they would be right, because i don't think this is what anyone is looking for, least of all myself.
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#28 asphoRe
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To the people saying how we're pro-blizzard because we dislike the game, it's really not the case.

Let's forget about story, content, overall cohesion of the game for a second. Squeenix REALLY needs to take some lessons on Human User Interface Design. The game can have an awesome story, be rich in content for all types of players and therefore deliver an immersive experience - but if the UI sucks, it really makes playing the game a chore.

Is it necessary to have to browse through menus just to open up your inventory? Why are different in-game functions nested behind multiple layers of menus? What was the rationale behind the cumbersome minimap - not only has it got a terrible refresh rate, but lacks basic functions such as zooming in?

Really, as gamers we might be content with what was given to us back in FFXI, but the genre as a whole has evolved. Consider that we would be spending hours upon hours (and then some) with our online avatars, MMOs in general NEED to be functionally efficient.

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#29 icyseanfitz
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the only mmo im looking forward to is the old republic as i loved the single player games and i love bioware if it tanks i might try guild wars 2 but tbh mmo's are just getting lame these days

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#31 shakmaster13
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Game looks bad :?
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#32 kozzy1234
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Kevin also gave Elemental a low score and Its one of my fav games this year.

With that said, I did try some of the beta of thsi game and it was not very good.

Maybe not 4/10 bad, but I would have given it 5/10 for the beta.

Int he end just try the game yourself, you might not have hte exact same opinion as Kevin V does.

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#33 Vexx88
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I just watched the video review. Jesus.
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#34 entropyecho
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In Kevin I trust.

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#35 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Kevin also gave Elemental a low score and Its one of my fav games this year.

With that said, I did try some of the beta of thsi game and it was not very good.

Maybe not 4/10 bad, but I would have given it 5/10 for the beta.

Int he end just try the game yourself, you might not have hte exact same opinion as Kevin V does.

kozzy1234

Tell me whats the difference between 4/10 and 5/10? Both games the vast majority of people are not going to buy anything below 6 or 7 out of 10..

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#36 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Kevin also gave Elemental a low score and Its one of my fav games this year.

With that said, I did try some of the beta of thsi game and it was not very good.

Maybe not 4/10 bad, but I would have given it 5/10 for the beta.

Int he end just try the game yourself, you might not have hte exact same opinion as Kevin V does.

sSubZerOo

Tell me whats the difference between 4/10 and 5/10? Both games the vast majority of people are not going to buy anything below 6 or 7 out of 10..

There is very little difference between a 4 adn 5, I was jsut saying in my opinion what I played of the beta was a 5/10 for me personally.

Me and Kevin agree on this game, I dont agree with alot of his other scores though.

I said 5/10 for me because it shows how I thought the game was abotu the same as he did, where as Elemental he gave 4/10 and I gave 9/10.

I agree with Kevin V on some games, but defiantly dont on some others (Elemental and Alpha PRotocol I loved, he didnt, the new FF we both didnt like much).

I was jsut saying that peopel in general should try gaems first instead of just goign by one sties reviews, we all dont have the same opinions on things, what one person hates another might LOVE. In Alpha PRotocol I loved the story, choices and gameplay, I can look passed some Optimization issues if a game gives me high fun factor, godo story and what not. Some others want graphcis and optimization. Everyone is differnt is what im trying to get across.

Some of my favorite games are rated 7 or lower, so I pay ZERO attention to reviews, I try the games myself.

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#37 StopThePresses
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Kevin also gave Elemental a low score and Its one of my fav games this year.

With that said, I did try some of the beta of thsi game and it was not very good.

Maybe not 4/10 bad, but I would have given it 5/10 for the beta.

Int he end just try the game yourself, you might not have hte exact same opinion as Kevin V does.

kozzy1234

Tell me whats the difference between 4/10 and 5/10? Both games the vast majority of people are not going to buy anything below 6 or 7 out of 10..

There is very little difference between a 4 adn 5, I was jsut saying in my opinion what I played of the beta was a 5/10 for me personally.

Me and Kevin agree on this game, I dont agree with alot of his other scores though.

I said 5/10 for me because it shows how I thought the game was abotu the same as he did, where as Elemental he gave 4/10 and I gave 9/10.

I agree with Kevin V on some games, but defiantly dont on some others (Elemental and Alpha PRotocol I loved, he didnt, the new FF we both didnt like much).

I was jsut saying that peopel in general should try gaems first instead of just goign by one sties reviews, we all dont have the same opinions on things, what one person hates another might LOVE. In Alpha PRotocol I loved the story, choices and gameplay, I can look passed some Optimization issues if a game gives me high fun factor, godo story and what not. Some others want graphcis and optimization. Everyone is differnt is what im trying to get across.

Some of my favorite games are rated 7 or lower, so I pay ZERO attention to reviews, I try the games myself.

The whole point of reviews is to determine whether or not to buy a game in the first place, so it's a little odd to say that people should try it. I'm not trying every game that is released. That's just conceptually ludicrous, even if money was not an issue. If this is some kind of code for, "Pirate the game first," well, no.
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#38 MyopicCanadian
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Kevin also gave Elemental a low score and Its one of my fav games this year.

With that said, I did try some of the beta of thsi game and it was not very good.

Maybe not 4/10 bad, but I would have given it 5/10 for the beta.

Int he end just try the game yourself, you might not have hte exact same opinion as Kevin V does.

kozzy1234

Tell me whats the difference between 4/10 and 5/10? Both games the vast majority of people are not going to buy anything below 6 or 7 out of 10..

There is very little difference between a 4 adn 5, I was jsut saying in my opinion what I played of the beta was a 5/10 for me personally.

Me and Kevin agree on this game, I dont agree with alot of his other scores though.

I said 5/10 for me because it shows how I thought the game was abotu the same as he did, where as Elemental he gave 4/10 and I gave 9/10.

I agree with Kevin V on some games, but defiantly dont on some others (Elemental and Alpha PRotocol I loved, he didnt, the new FF we both didnt like much).

I was jsut saying that peopel in general should try gaems first instead of just goign by one sties reviews, we all dont have the same opinions on things, what one person hates another might LOVE. In Alpha PRotocol I loved the story, choices and gameplay, I can look passed some Optimization issues if a game gives me high fun factor, godo story and what not. Some others want graphcis and optimization. Everyone is differnt is what im trying to get across.

Some of my favorite games are rated 7 or lower, so I pay ZERO attention to reviews, I try the games myself.

Very true, and honestly I think that goes double for a site like gamespot. Rarely will a lower budget game get a decent score.. but they toss 9's and 10's to big budget games like they're going out of style.
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#39 NeoStar9
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Kevin VanOrd has given his review for Square Enix's new MMORPG.

What do you think of the score? Have you played the game? Have you bought the game? What did you think of it?

Personally he pretty much sums up everything I noticed from the beta and confirmed my suspicions that they wouldn't change it in the small amount of time they had before it would launch.

-Unreal-

The review was pretty accurate when it comes to the problems the game has.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to review a MMORPG this quickly. People have to understand there are certain aspects that are completely open to review. Sound, graphics, user interface, quest, combat, etc systems. These are the core of the game. All improves build off these unless a complete replacement is done. Just because MMORPGs change over time that doesn't mean the product they decided to sell for money gets a pass.

Many of FFXIV's problems are design related. We aren't simply talking about server lag. That can be expected. FFXIV's problems go beyond that.

The actually user interface for example, the first thing and most important aspect a player will interact with is horrible. What makes matters worse is that they've failed to include many of the advances they made in their own other MMORPG, Final Fantasy XI. The UI should be polished and better then FFXI's not significantly worse. That's just one element. Another thing is just because FFXI or other games had issues when they launched doesn't excuse FFXIV's or theirs. This is SE's second game. This is 2010.

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#40 Birdy09
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I would like to post this, just an objective conversation with one of my freinds, smart guy, masters in computer science, plays a good ammount of games, we basically discussed this.

it may be 2 years, but i think it will be less id like to wait for the first content patch as an indication of how fast its getting sorted but that gamespot review. the more i think aobut it, the more i think what a waste of an opinion it was: Bad UI biggest issue. the world has no eye candy.... jus stop your camera and look, its all candy. to NOOB unfreindly, fixed by reading or asking. 5 mins creates a community. no content. like i said, i was busy today with 5 hours of content. i cud grind 5 hours 2morrow and still say thats content.... 5 hours questing, 5 hours grinding, thats not unusual or a idication of lack of content even if his opinions where all right, he didnt touch on anything like partying, leaving out a hell of a lot of the mechanics, and the deep trade skill system. i should imagine he had a 1 hour playing during the time it was unplyably laggy. and seems to me he didnt even try to find the fun in the game

Font Sized increased for enphasis, because everything about this is true, gamespot are usually one of the last to post reviews on games, it seems to be a case of he was thrown this title to do, had no interest in it whatsoever (probably hyping GW2 or Catacalysm like every typical mainstream gamer) and yet this review is already out ( I might add is the only negative review on Metacritic at this moment in time, halfing the other 2s scores" ) Elemental's review score is another source of this, kevin doesnt like complexity, which would explain why he picks a somewhat simple game like Starcraft 2 top hype up to high heaven and brag about build orders of a very old and simplistic RTS dolled up with blizzards "charm" Dont mean to come off as agressive to kevin as such, but please. freely come here and retort, you sometimes do.
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#41 MyopicCanadian
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Agree with comparing questing and grinding. I'm not sure I understand the mindset that quests = content, because all it is, is a different type of grind. Only the quest grind shows you exactly where to go and what to kill and where you should be at your level.. FF14 is more open than that.

Not saying the game doesn't have issues, the largest problems I have with the game are the UI and combat lag, but the combat system itself and the world and such are all pretty good.

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#42 Vax45
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So FFXIV isn't all that different from FFXI as far as grinding and bad interfaces go?
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Mate FFXI is 10 steps ahead on all aspects from this sorry excuse for a game, trust me.
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So FFXIV isn't all that different from FFXI as far as grinding and bad interfaces go?Vax45
Except the interface is worst.
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#45 V4LENT1NE
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FF has been recycled crap for years, they are just milking it for all its worth.
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#46 Birdy09
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Mate FFXI is 10 steps ahead on all aspects from this sorry excuse for a game, trust me.fanisl
Both Combat and Tradeskills are better in FFXIV than FFXI, you know, the 2 core segements of the game. though I guess its fare to compare an 8 year old refined game to one thats not ready for release? With refinement it makes FFXI look like a turd.
[QUOTE="Vax45"]So FFXIV isn't all that different from FFXI as far as grinding and bad interfaces go?Vexx88
Except the interface is worst.

Falls under the same category really. something that will be fixed.
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#47 Skeptomania
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Final Fantasy XIV is clealry a stellar example of game making. Kevin Vanord is clearly just a Final Fantasy hater with an agenda.

Not.

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[QUOTE="fanisl"]Mate FFXI is 10 steps ahead on all aspects from this sorry excuse for a game, trust me.Birdy09
Both Combat and Tradeskills are better in FFXIV than FFXI, you know, the 2 core segements of the game. though I guess its fare to compare an 8 year old refined game to one thats not ready for release?

Yes, it is fair to compare a game that is not ready to release to other stuff when they did, in fact, release it, especially when it is so clearly inspired by the game it is being compared to.

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Hey Developers !!! - - How about some high quality single player games?!?

This is getting stupid. . . I don't want my gaming to be dependent on a temporary server in cyberspace, populated with people who flunked remedial English.

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#50 StopThePresses
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Hey Developers !!! - - How about some high quality single player games?!?

This is getting stupid. . . I don't want my gaming to be dependent on a temporary server in cyberspace, populated with people who flunked remedial English.

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