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#1 Tim_Millington
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Ive just updated from 3.6 and I'm liking the new interface

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/

You can download from the link or update from your current FF browser

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#2 kraken2109
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I would update but it says like 8 of my addons won't work :(

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#3 swehunt
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Im using it now and i love it, but all colors looks a bit washed out, and the text is blurry?

To me it looks like running a diffrent resolution than native, perhaps even AA, i dont know it looks a bit unsharp, like an interlaced resolution or something.

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#4 Janus67
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Nice, will have to throw it on my test machine. I've moved from FF to Chrome about a year ago and completely love Chrome, but always fun to try out new Browsers.
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#5 XaosII
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Im using it now and i love it, but all colors looks a bit washed out, and the text is blurry?

To me it looks like running a diffrent resolution than native, perhaps even AA, i dont know it looks a bit unsharp, like an interlaced resolution or something.

swehunt

Do you have an ATI video card with MLAA enabled?

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#6 swehunt
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[QUOTE="swehunt"]

Im using it now and i love it, but all colors looks a bit washed out, and the text is blurry?

To me it looks like running a diffrent resolution than native, perhaps even AA, i dont know it looks a bit unsharp, like an interlaced resolution or something.

XaosII

Do you have an ATI video card with MLAA enabled?

Negative, an gtx460. :( It's weird, i just updated the 3.6 to 4 and the screen became blurry. Dont anyone else noticed this?
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#7 osan0
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i was using the beta a lot and am now using v4. however i think i have run into a problem with it. nothing serious but sometimes it seems to cause my GPU to stick at 100% utilisation even when i close FF down. it doesnt always happen and im not 100% sure its FF causing it. i just havent noticed it happen when i use other programs. putting rhe PC into and out of sleep fixes the problem. also hard to say if its AMDs fault with drivers or mozillas fault. im also getting dreadful performance in some videos that use HTML5 (could be related to the above issue). e.g. theres an intro video for FF4 under the explore the cutting edge section. basically it goes at about 1FPS. is my CPU that bad? :S overall though its a great imporvement. needs a few more minor bug fix releases probably but overall very kewl
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#8 swehunt
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Hrm, theres a diffrence alright, i even checked in the controlpanel and disabled anything there for FF.

IE8 to the left, FF4 to the right.

From the picture it looks like the text is clearly much more readable on the IE than on the FF, contrl mousewheel = no diffrence the text is still blurry and the size dont matter it looks "uncrisp" anyway. :(



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#9 kraken2109
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="swehunt"]

Im using it now and i love it, but all colors looks a bit washed out, and the text is blurry?

To me it looks like running a diffrent resolution than native, perhaps even AA, i dont know it looks a bit unsharp, like an interlaced resolution or something.

swehunt

Do you have an ATI video card with MLAA enabled?

Negative, an gtx460. :( It's weird, i just updated the 3.6 to 4 and the screen became blurry. Dont anyone else noticed this?

I read on lifehacker that someone had that problem. They solved it by disabling hardware acceleration or something like that.
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#10 Bikouchu35
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Im using it now and i love it, but all colors looks a bit washed out, and the text is blurry?

To me it looks like running a diffrent resolution than native, perhaps even AA, i dont know it looks a bit unsharp, like an interlaced resolution or something.

swehunt

Turn up the sharpness on your monitor.

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#11 swehunt
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[QUOTE="swehunt"]

Im using it now and i love it, but all colors looks a bit washed out, and the text is blurry?

To me it looks like running a diffrent resolution than native, perhaps even AA, i dont know it looks a bit unsharp, like an interlaced resolution or something.

Bikouchu35

Turn up the sharpness on your monitor.

Look on the picture I link'ed they're taken next to eachother, It clearly shows the diffrence. there is a diffrence within the program that make text blurry compared to the older v3.6 version and compared next to next to IE 8. Something is wrong and its not my monitor, i like the more slimmed FF but the main thing you do with a browser is reading text to me this is unacceptable. On the thumb i provided, click it and see for yourself. :)
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#12 Bikouchu35
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^I know is not, I've seen it, but thats another solution to compensate for certain apps. The lazy way to fix it :)

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#13 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

[QUOTE="swehunt"]

Im using it now and i love it, but all colors looks a bit washed out, and the text is blurry?

To me it looks like running a diffrent resolution than native, perhaps even AA, i dont know it looks a bit unsharp, like an interlaced resolution or something.

swehunt

Turn up the sharpness on your monitor.

Look on the picture I link'ed they're taken next to eachother, It clearly shows the diffrence. there is a diffrence within the program that make text blurry compared to the older v3.6 version and compared next to next to IE 8. Something is wrong and its not my monitor, i like the more slimmed FF but the main thing you do with a browser is reading text to me this is unacceptable. On the thumb i provided, click it and see for yourself. :)

I'm also using it, text seems nice and as sharp as 3.6 and Chrome... Might be something to your issue but as far as my experience goes i don't have it.
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#14 SoraX64
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Been using FF4 for a while, switched from Chrome. Loving it.
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ff4 ownz
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#16 C_Rule
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Is it better than Opera, yet?
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#17 LovePotionNo9
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Also a GTX460 and just upgraded to Firefox 4. I do notice the text looks a little blurry on some sites with non-boldface text. This isn't a problem on every site though, and the textbox I'm typing in now, the text looks fine. Even some sites I've tested with non-boldface text look fine. Seems to vary based on the font.

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#18 Daytona_178
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Tried it yesterday. It is good but its not as fast loading up or loading pages compared to Chrome.

Will definately use it as my backup browser.

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#19 C_Rule
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Tried it yesterday. It is good but its not as fast loading up or loading pages compared to Chrome.

Will definately use it as my backup browser.

Daytona_178
And that's all FireFox will ever be.... Everyone's backup browser... Poor FF. :(
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#20 Sandulf29
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Ive just updated from 3.6 and I'm liking the new interface

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/

You can download from the link or update from your current FF browser

Tim_Millington
thanks. i am still firefox 4 beta 11 version.
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#21 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]

Tried it yesterday. It is good but its not as fast loading up or loading pages compared to Chrome.

Will definately use it as my backup browser.

C_Rule
And that's all FireFox will ever be.... Everyone's backup browser... Poor FF. :(

Well there are still plenty of FF fanboys who will keep using it irrelevant of how much another browser beats it. Thing is I use Chrome because of the following: Fastest to load up, fastest web page loading, Each tab is its own process so if it crashes the others are fine, each plugin runs in its own enviroment so if it crashes the page is still fine, the easiest add-on manager which does not need to restart to install them, auto-flash & other plugins updated without you knowing, Chrome is also updated without you knowing, minimalistic UI, Goggle account sync for bookmakrs, addons, passwords, etc.
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#22 abuabed
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I have just updated mine and wow, it's really impressive, it's GPU acceleration is better than Chrome's, smoother browsing and the new look looks like Chrome's tabs. Overall: Amazing/10
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#23 Sandulf29
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i have used opera too. i think it loads way faster than FF. also i liked 'speed dial' very much. the only thing i hate about opera is that all versions of opera above 10.10, create so many garbage files in my temp folder. i will clear my cookies, browsing but they wont go. i got pretty much sick of all the cleaning of temp folder every few days. have been using FF 4 beta 11 for few days. it looks okay

EDIT: i just checked out chromes newest. its faster than FF too. so i guess i will switch back to opera or chrome.

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#24 kraken2109
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I couldn't never change from firefox, I like my addons too much :(

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#25 Bozanimal
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Anyone know how to check whether certain addons are compatible? I can't live without NoScript and AdBlock Plus.

Boz

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#26 Daytona_178
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Anyone know how to check whether certain addons are compatible? I can't live without NoScript and AdBlock Plus.

Boz

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Chrome has both of those.
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#27 pcgamer_07
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Awesome over 8.2 million downloads and counting. Its showing the strain I was downloading the 15mb update through the browser at 5.5kb/sec;)

Got the direct download instead.

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#28 pcgamer_07
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Anyone know how to check whether certain addons are compatible? I can't live without NoScript and AdBlock Plus.

Boz

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Both are working for me on Firefox 4.

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#29 swehunt
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[QUOTE="Bozanimal"]

Anyone know how to check whether certain addons are compatible? I can't live without NoScript and AdBlock Plus.

Boz

Daytona_178
Chrome has both of those.

If not giggle were so creapy i would use it, i already use it in my phone (android) and that scares the crap outta me. :P
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anyone with AMD cards using it? i posted earlier about the GPU activity in CCC being stuck at 99% after a while but at the time i wasnt sure it was a FF problem. i can replicate the problem in firefox 4 very consistently using the demos on mozillas website (the 360 degree video demo especially). for a while GPu activity will be as expected then it shoots up to 99% and a restart or putting the PC to sleep is required to get it back to normal. closing FF doesnt do a thing for it. ive also tried disabeling the hardware acceleration in FF but that doesnt make a difference either. ive been testing it all day today though. ive been using chrome and enabled the GPU acceleration in it for good measure. ive gone to the same sites (though the 360 degree vid doesnt work in chrome) and thrown all the HTML5 i can at it. the GPU has been behaving normally. ive tried a few games also and everything is working as expected. but i loaded up FF once and within 10 mins the problem came up. poking around dinternet many of the people who are reporting the problem are also using FF4 or a FF4 beta. i have a 5850 and have seen this problem in 11.1 and 11.2 (i removed 11.1 first before installing 11.2). so im just wondering if there are other AMD GPU users here that are having the same problem? if there are, were you beta users also or is it a fresh install of FF4?
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#31 SPBoss
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It's been out for quite a while..
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#32 Bozanimal
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[QUOTE="Bozanimal"]

Anyone know how to check whether certain addons are compatible? I can't live without NoScript and AdBlock Plus.

Boz

pcgamer_07

Both are working for me on Firefox 4.

/salute

Boz

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#33 A_Toda_Madre
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I hope they've eliminated the occasional bog down issues. That is so freaking annoying. It's the only thing that I don't like about the browser. It slows to a crawl sometimes.

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#34 gmaster456
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I downloaded it but for some reason it ended up installing some strange Safari/Opera Hybrid.
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#35 SaltyMeatballs
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Yeah I didn't realise until today. I downloaded it, I like it overall. Only problem which you may know by now is that the text is blurry, I read it is due to hardware acceleration which with the cleartype I already have is a problem. I want hardware acceleration but not blurry text, so I leave it on, I hope they update... only really makes bold text look like crap. My addons work so it's all good. I like Google, but I don't see the point in Chrome TBH, could never get into it.
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#36 istuffedsunny
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. I'll be sticking with Firefox 3.5 for a while. Chrome and new versions of Firefox lack some add-ons I can't live without. Speed is not an issue if you have an SSD

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#37 savis1
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I too moved from Firefox to Chrome and enjoying. I still love IE for so many reasons.
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. I'll be sticking with Firefox 3.5 for a while. Chrome and new versions of Firefox lack some add-ons I can't live without. Speed is not an issue if you have an SSD

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An SSD wont increase web page loading time.
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i have a 5850 and after firefox 4 is running for a while, my gpu starts working 100% and the clocks are maxed. this continues after i close the browser and i have to reboot to get it back to normal.

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And that's all FireFox will ever be.... Everyone's backup browser... Poor FF. :(

C_Rule

Its my main browser Chrome lacks one crucial feature for me being able to select tabs and then rapidly go through them using left and right arrows keys. I was pissed when a firefox update took out the ability to that simply by double clicking on a tab so i was staying on an old version for a while but found a work around to it so i updated. Chrome is nice but i prefer firefox and I have it customized with addons to how i like.

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#41 jedikevin2
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Palemoon + No script + ad block plus + better privacy... Absolutely destroys google chrome.

runs faster, way better web security, and overall just better in my opinion.

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#42 Artekus
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Think I'll be switching to this. The Flash plug-in for Chrome has been crashing non-stop for weeks now with no fix.
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anyone with AMD cards using it? i posted earlier about the GPU activity in CCC being stuck at 99% after a while but at the time i wasnt sure it was a FF problem. i can replicate the problem in firefox 4 very consistently using the demos on mozillas website (the 360 degree video demo especially). for a while GPu activity will be as expected then it shoots up to 99% and a restart or putting the PC to sleep is required to get it back to normal. closing FF doesnt do a thing for it. ive also tried disabeling the hardware acceleration in FF but that doesnt make a difference either. ive been testing it all day today though. ive been using chrome and enabled the GPU acceleration in it for good measure. ive gone to the same sites (though the 360 degree vid doesnt work in chrome) and thrown all the HTML5 i can at it. the GPU has been behaving normally. ive tried a few games also and everything is working as expected. but i loaded up FF once and within 10 mins the problem came up. poking around dinternet many of the people who are reporting the problem are also using FF4 or a FF4 beta. i have a 5850 and have seen this problem in 11.1 and 11.2 (i removed 11.1 first before installing 11.2). so im just wondering if there are other AMD GPU users here that are having the same problem? if there are, were you beta users also or is it a fresh install of FF4?osan0

same problem, sticking with chrome for now

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[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]

If it ain't broke don't fix it. I'll be sticking with Firefox 3.5 for a while. Chrome and new versions of Firefox lack some add-ons I can't live without. Speed is not an issue if you have an SSD

Daytona_178
An SSD wont increase web page loading time.

C'mon, we are talking fractions of milliseconds these days, I don't think people really care about the speed of loading the webpages anymore because there is only so much they can do, they care about the smoothness of the browsing experience.
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[QUOTE="osan0"]anyone with AMD cards using it? i posted earlier about the GPU activity in CCC being stuck at 99% after a while but at the time i wasnt sure it was a FF problem. i can replicate the problem in firefox 4 very consistently using the demos on mozillas website (the 360 degree video demo especially). for a while GPu activity will be as expected then it shoots up to 99% and a restart or putting the PC to sleep is required to get it back to normal. closing FF doesnt do a thing for it. ive also tried disabeling the hardware acceleration in FF but that doesnt make a difference either. ive been testing it all day today though. ive been using chrome and enabled the GPU acceleration in it for good measure. ive gone to the same sites (though the 360 degree vid doesnt work in chrome) and thrown all the HTML5 i can at it. the GPU has been behaving normally. ive tried a few games also and everything is working as expected. but i loaded up FF once and within 10 mins the problem came up. poking around dinternet many of the people who are reporting the problem are also using FF4 or a FF4 beta. i have a 5850 and have seen this problem in 11.1 and 11.2 (i removed 11.1 first before installing 11.2). so im just wondering if there are other AMD GPU users here that are having the same problem? if there are, were you beta users also or is it a fresh install of FF4?ticktocktick201

same problem, sticking with chrome for now

Mine is at 0%
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#46 fishing666
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oh i was using the beta for a long time. i noticed a few changes but essentially it's the same as 4.0 It's reliable and very fast. I think chrome is much faster but i dont like the layout and interface
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[QUOTE="ticktocktick201"]

[QUOTE="osan0"]anyone with AMD cards using it? i posted earlier about the GPU activity in CCC being stuck at 99% after a while but at the time i wasnt sure it was a FF problem. i can replicate the problem in firefox 4 very consistently using the demos on mozillas website (the 360 degree video demo especially). for a while GPu activity will be as expected then it shoots up to 99% and a restart or putting the PC to sleep is required to get it back to normal. closing FF doesnt do a thing for it. ive also tried disabeling the hardware acceleration in FF but that doesnt make a difference either. ive been testing it all day today though. ive been using chrome and enabled the GPU acceleration in it for good measure. ive gone to the same sites (though the 360 degree vid doesnt work in chrome) and thrown all the HTML5 i can at it. the GPU has been behaving normally. ive tried a few games also and everything is working as expected. but i loaded up FF once and within 10 mins the problem came up. poking around dinternet many of the people who are reporting the problem are also using FF4 or a FF4 beta. i have a 5850 and have seen this problem in 11.1 and 11.2 (i removed 11.1 first before installing 11.2). so im just wondering if there are other AMD GPU users here that are having the same problem? if there are, were you beta users also or is it a fresh install of FF4?SaltyMeatballs

same problem, sticking with chrome for now

Mine is at 0%

Yep no problems either I'm fine at my end. I'm on 11.2 btw.

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[QUOTE="ticktocktick201"]

[QUOTE="osan0"]anyone with AMD cards using it? i posted earlier about the GPU activity in CCC being stuck at 99% after a while but at the time i wasnt sure it was a FF problem. i can replicate the problem in firefox 4 very consistently using the demos on mozillas website (the 360 degree video demo especially). for a while GPu activity will be as expected then it shoots up to 99% and a restart or putting the PC to sleep is required to get it back to normal. closing FF doesnt do a thing for it. ive also tried disabeling the hardware acceleration in FF but that doesnt make a difference either. ive been testing it all day today though. ive been using chrome and enabled the GPU acceleration in it for good measure. ive gone to the same sites (though the 360 degree vid doesnt work in chrome) and thrown all the HTML5 i can at it. the GPU has been behaving normally. ive tried a few games also and everything is working as expected. but i loaded up FF once and within 10 mins the problem came up. poking around dinternet many of the people who are reporting the problem are also using FF4 or a FF4 beta. i have a 5850 and have seen this problem in 11.1 and 11.2 (i removed 11.1 first before installing 11.2). so im just wondering if there are other AMD GPU users here that are having the same problem? if there are, were you beta users also or is it a fresh install of FF4?SaltyMeatballs

same problem, sticking with chrome for now

Mine is at 0%

try running some tech demos on mozillas website..especially the video demos. https://demos.mozilla.org/en-US/ it doesnt happen immediately..it can take a few mins to kick in. i can consistently replicate the problem using the 360 degree vid sample. AMD are now aware of it now though and have been able to replicate it on their test systems. http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1336533210 hopefully itll be fixed in their next driver release or the next version of firefox (whichever software is causing the problem).
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#49 pcgamer_07
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I tried a few it didn't get stuck at 99% or anything. Don't know whats happening with other people hope it gets sorted for you guys.

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#50 savis1
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I have just installed FF 4 on my system. I have no clue if I am going to have any compatibility issues. Guys please keep us updated.