Frostbite II vs CryEngine II.

Bad Company's new Frostbite 2 engine vs Crysis CryEgine 2 who wins?

I know technically the CryEngine 2 is superior over Dices new Frostbite 2 Engine. But it pains me to say this as a crysis fanboy but i prefer the Frostbite 2 Egine. Its easy on the hardware despite looking amazing. The HDR sound effects are incredible and the physx tho not as realistic as the Cryengine are more fun to play with.

Bad Company's new Frostbite 2 engine vs Crysis CryEgine 2 who wins?

I know technically the CryEngine 2 is superior over Dices new Frostbite 2 Engine. But it pains me to say this as a crysis fanboy but i prefer the Frostbite 2 Egine. Its easy on the hardware despite looking amazing. The HDR sound effects are incredible and the physx tho not as realistic as the Cryengine are more fun to play with.

mattuk69

I wondered when this comparison would be made.

When I started up Bad Company's single player I too was impressed at the graphics and the similarities between it and the cryengine 2. It was the first time since playing crysis that I saw an engine that was comparable and surpirsed that not many have made much mention of it, at least on the PC. Yeah, the physics aren't as realistic and the overall technical accomplishment probably also isn't as great, but the package as a whole certainly is worthy as a contender for 2nd best pc graphics.

Frostbite is weaker but makes better use of the scripted physics and environment destruction to take advantage it in the gameplay. I'm talking about the mp. I would love to see in the Crysis 2 multiplayer the same degree of interactivity. Honestly, will be very hard to play another mp without environment destructibility after BC 2. The amount of deep that adds to the amusement is too much to be ignored.

Can't agree on its ease on hardware. Its performance to visual fidelity ratio isn't anywhere near that of Crysis on the high end. Its DX10 optimization is pretty terrible (looks mostly entirely identical without HBAO yet performs notably worse), HBAO gives a nice, minor visual improvement but floors the performance even beyond what just running in DX10 does. Also, mouse input lag takes effect at much higher framerates in this game than in most others (V-sync off). Where the mouse responsiveness in most games doesn't start to decrease substantially until you get to 25-30 and below, in this game it becomes a small hindrance at about 35-40 and below. Far Cry 2 had the same problem. This coming from someone who finds an average of 30-35 in Crysis very playable and smooth.

Its optimization when maxed out in DX9 is quite good it seems, but at that level it only looks comparable to something like Crysis on a mix of medium and high settings (not that DX10 with HBAO looks much better, it's a very minor visual improvement for performance a little worse than Crysis maxed out). Not to say it's not a well-crafted and nice-looking game at that level, but it's really nothing special if you ask me.

crysis is still graphicsking period

Have you seen the new Crysis 2 screens? lol looks amazing if those are really in game. Crazy good and it looks better than Crysis 1 while promising to run way better. Gamesterpheonix

I think that crysis and far cry 2 have amazing graphics, but they are definitely dependant on your hardware, the game engine isnt that amazing.Treytastic

I would think BC2 's engine cause in that one you can blow up buildings for real CE2 is ok.Hekynn

A better comparison would be between MW 2 and BC 2 since the engines look pretty much the same, it's a joke to compare it with CE 2.DanielDust

I think that crysis and far cry 2 have amazing graphics, but they are definitely dependant on your hardware, the game engine isnt that amazing.Treytastic

Frostbrite 2's Horizon-Based Ambient Occlusion really had me. It makes the game look just as polished. For those of you scratching your heads about HBAO, Ambient occlusion basically adds dark values to areas that are enclosed or where they logically should have a gradience of darkness and adds more realism to the visual. So when saying Horizon-based, meaning that it generates ambient occlusion on the spot ( I noticed that when players huddle walls, AO geneartes ).

Usually most games pre-generate the AO. But the CryEngine is sorta somewhere in the middle of normal AO and HBAO.

I find the lighting in frostbite 2, especially when running in the jungle, to be very eye-candy. Still doesn't mean I don't like CryEngine though.

frostbite is a better engine, Crysis multiplayer skips around it's prob prettier but the Frostbite is more effiecent and the vehicles work better.

Meh, I like the visuals of the frostbite, but on a technical level... it's not that impressive. I say this because the destruction is limited and a lot of the cool effects seem to be 'placed' instead of rendered by the engine. For example, sometimes you'll see 'placed' sun shafts due to lighting. These aren't due the engine, but placed by developers during the making of the map. The graphics and physics are definitely well suited for this game. The developers certainly put a lot of time into figuring out how to make this game look and run like a dream.

Crysis, on the other hand, is almost entirely done by the engine and very impressive on a technical level. It's impressive all-around, except the physics hardly affect the gameplay at all, unlike BC2.

It's hard to explain, but you'll know it when you see it in-game.

the cry engine does it right, it has a real working in game physics and is a lot better at chipping away realsticcly however the scripted bc 2 wins handsdown in overall destruction even if it has little realisim.

i see the frostbite to be the better option for xbox and ps3 games due to the weaker hardware as it allows multiplayer madness abiet a little scripted it can make a great workable game which is eye candy although static.

Crysis2 seems to have a lot more smaller scale destruction and is a better pc choice as it can front the power to have proper physics and to have a monster. Of course crysis is better overall but in terms of console gaming i will have to give it to bc2 for dumbing it down and making it playable on the consoles, still we will have to see how crysis2 deals with the consoles..

[QUOTE="Treytastic"]I think that crysis and far cry 2 have amazing graphics, but they are definitely dependant on your hardware, the game engine isnt that amazing.chandu83

CryEngine II is still on top, the whole engine runs extremely smooth, and its one of the few engines that started to use particles. It looks, sounds and feels amazing!

but cryengine is largley future tech or very high end (yet again awaiting console and therefore i belive mainstream use to be seen)

best game engine ever and yet hardly playable to most

but cryengine is largley future tech or very high end (yet again awaiting console and therefore i belive mainstream use to be seen)

best game engine ever and yet hardly playable to most

dunndude2

crysis is still graphicsking period

SLIisaownsystem

this.

Crysis w/ Ultra High Quality Mods tears the the s*** out of BFBC2. I have both.

Far Cry 2 is on the Dunia engine not on CryEngine.

Far Cry 2 is on the Dunia engine not on CryEngine.

B45AK

Aswell is Far Cry 2 very easy on the hardware, would be nice to see more games on it.

Ok here's what i think, Cry Engine 1 pushed everyone else down a hill, CryEngine 2 shoved others into the ocean, CryEngine 3 shoved them off the edge of a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyy steep cliff.

The CryEngine wins easily.

[QUOTE="Gamesterpheonix"]Have you seen the new Crysis 2 screens? lol looks amazing if those are really in game. Crazy good and it looks better than Crysis 1 while promising to run way better. millerlight89

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON8fU2RWyK4

[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

crysis is still graphicsking period

this.

Crysis w/ Ultra High Quality Mods tears the the s*** out of BFBC2. I have both.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Gamesterpheonix"]Have you seen the new Crysis 2 screens? lol looks amazing if those are really in game. Crazy good and it looks better than Crysis 1 while promising to run way better. firefluff3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON8fU2RWyK4

Looks amazing, but it's not better than Crysis.

[QUOTE="firefluff3"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yea, I will believe that when I see videos.ChubbyGuy40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON8fU2RWyK4

Looks amazing, but it's not better than Crysis.

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

Bad Company's new Frostbite 2 engine vs Crysis CryEgine 2 who wins?

I know technically the CryEngine 2 is superior over Dices new Frostbite 2 Engine. But it pains me to say this as a crysis fanboy but i prefer the Frostbite 2 Egine. Its easy on the hardware despite looking amazing. The HDR sound effects are incredible and the physx tho not as realistic as the Cryengine are more fun to play with.

spacedog1973

I wondered when this comparison would be made.

When I started up Bad Company's single player I too was impressed at the graphics and the similarities between it and the cryengine 2. It was the first time since playing crysis that I saw an engine that was comparable and surpirsed that not many have made much mention of it, at least on the PC. Yeah, the physics aren't as realistic and the overall technical accomplishment probably also isn't as great, but the package as a whole certainly is worthy as a contender for 2nd best pc graphics.

[QUOTE="firefluff3"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yea, I will believe that when I see videos.ChubbyGuy40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON8fU2RWyK4

Looks amazing, but it's not better than Crysis.

Of course, C2 has no sand and ocean, so the graphics aren't better, makes sense. It also makes sense to think that before those improvements, the features that got improved already made Crysis 1 look pathetic (buildings and detail).DanielDust

Art style preferences. The whole setting is boring to look at and the aliens changed for the worse IMO. I absolutely hate the new Nanosuit design and the gun models suck.

I never said it wasn't better than vanilla Crysis. It is, but modded Crysis still wins. Yeah it has better tech, but having the better tech doesn't mean it automatically looks better.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Of course, C2 has no sand and ocean, so the graphics aren't better, makes sense. It also makes sense to think that before those improvements, the features that got improved already made Crysis 1 look pathetic (buildings and detail).ChubbyGuy40

Art style preferences. The whole setting is boring to look at and the aliens changed for the worse IMO. I absolutely hate the new Nanosuit design and the gun models suck.

I never said it wasn't better than vanilla Crysis. It is, but modded Crysis still wins. Yeah it has better tech, but having the better tech doesn't mean it automatically looks better.

Bad Company's new Frostbite 2 engine vs Crysis CryEgine 2 who wins?

I know technically the CryEngine 2 is superior over Dices new Frostbite 2 Engine. But it pains me to say this as a crysis fanboy but i prefer the Frostbite 2 Egine. Its easy on the hardware despite looking amazing. The HDR sound effects are incredible and the physx tho not as realistic as the Cryengine are more fun to play with.

mattuk69

CryEngine 2. But in all honesty thiswins.

Theme doesn't automatically make it better looking either and mods don't change a thing, they only bring it closer to Crysis 2 (vanilla that is).

DanielDust

Crysis 2 vanilla was a joke. Nothing about it was impressive. One of the things I hate most are low-res and ugly textures. Crysis wasn't even that bad with them, but Crysis 2 was. EIM, in combination with a few other mods, makes Crysis still the best looking game today.

It's called preference. A lush jungle setting on an island is far more interesting to look at than the corridor streets in NYC.

Lol at people not realizing this is a thread from over a year ago. Necrothread FTW

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