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#1 FunkMasterE3
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Yeah i ordered a comp from Dell for $2052 AU.It comes with Vistaand specs of 256MB Nivida 8600GT,4 Gigs o Ram 667Mhz And a Intel Core Duo E6320...Anyway! getting to the point see Vista is full of bugs (So i've heard) and it has problems running certain games so will it have any problems running Comany of Heroes,Stalker and Bioshock? (i also have Aoe3,Warcraft and nuemerous other games but i suspect they'll have no problems)

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#2 Hewkii
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Company of Heroes and Bioshock are both GFW, so they should work just fine. STALKER, I don't know.
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#3 instantdeath999
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They all work fine.
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#4 xxPanicxx
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Doesn't dell custom build?
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#5 GeForce2187
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You got that for $2000?
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You got that for $2000?GeForce2187
2000 austrailian. Its still a bad deal though. That 8600gt is pretty underpowered.
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You paid $2000 that that? It really sounds like you got ripped off. My computer in my sig cost me $2k, and that included an Antec Nine case and a 800 watt single rail power supply.

With the latest drivers, Vista will run fine. With STALKER, make sure you do the following:
1. Right click the shortcut and click properties
2. Set it to run as administrator.

If you do not do this, your game will play really wierd because the developer's who made STALKER are kinda noob.

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#8 syngaming
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Is dell a good brand to go for? how does to compare with HP, Toshiba ect?

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#9 berobnx
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Is dell a good brand to go for? how does to compare with HP, Toshiba ect?

syngaming

just put together your own computer instead

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Is dell a good brand to go for? how does to compare with HP, Toshiba ect?

syngaming

none of them build your own pc e.g select your own parts... if u really hav to go down to a local pc store and get some help from them

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for example, i got this for only 1379 USD:

Cooler Master Centurion 534 Svart Aluminium Front (utan nätagg)
Apevia 550W Chameleon Alu, Blå/Grön/Röd LED, 2xSATA, PCI-E, ATX/EPS, 20/24pin
XFX GeForce 8800GTS 500M 320MB GDDR3, PCI-Express, 2xDVI/HDTV/HDCP,500/1600Mhz
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.67GHz 1333Mhz Socket LGA775, 4MB, BOXED m/fläkt
Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 Kit w/two matched CM2X1024A-6400 Dimm's
Asus P5K, P35, Socket-775, DDR2, ATX, GbLAN, PCI-Ex16
LG DVD-brännare GSA-H54N IDE svart OEM
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB SATA2 16MB

some stuff there is in swedish, but whatever, i just copy and pasted everything :p

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#12 SgtSilock
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Since the patch, Stalker works.
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#13 osan0  Online
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well if u have vista already stick with it. no point worrying about getting XP back on it or anything as eventually u will go back to vista anyway. i havent tried it since my disaster at launch but i hear its much better now than it was then. so yea stick with it.
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Yeah i ordered a comp from Dell for $2052 AU.It comes with Vistaand specs of 256MB Nivida 8600GT,4 Gigs o Ram 667Mhz And a Intel Core Duo E6320...Anyway! getting to the point see Vista is full of bugs (So i've heard) and it has problems running certain games so will it have any problems running Comany of Heroes,Stalker and Bioshock? (i also have Aoe3,Warcraft and nuemerous other games but i suspect they'll have no problems)

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Wow, they saw you coming didn't they. You got ripped off. My system is alot better than that, and I only payed $1,300. You should have built your own instead of buying from Dell. Or at least ordered from somebody else other than dell. Dell sucks.

P.S. I haven't had any issues with Vista. I am convinces that the issues is from the person operating the computer, not from Vista.

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#15 gamerchris810
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Vista isnt that bad, plus you get dx10 goodness!

The comp is pretty good but you should have got someone to make your own that way you could ahve made it better for the same price.

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Yeah i ordered a comp from Dell for $2052 AU.It comes with Vistaand specs of 256MB Nivida 8600GT,4 Gigs o Ram 667Mhz And a Intel Core Duo E6320...Anyway! getting to the point see Vista is full of bugs (So i've heard) and it has problems running certain games so will it have any problems running Comany of Heroes,Stalker and Bioshock? (i also have Aoe3,Warcraft and nuemerous other games but i suspect they'll have no problems)

FunkMasterE3

cancel your order immediately!!!!

4Gb of slow RAM???????

GeForce 8600???????

E6320???????

you call that uber computer?

ok i wouldn't say it's bad one but it sure sounds like bad order

instead of the 4 slow Gb RAM get yourself 2Gb of 800Mhz, and instead of crappy 8600 get some 8800

if you'll have few dollars left replace the 6300 dude to 6600 or better

oh and Vista is the last thing you'll have to be worried about...1st deal with the crap you've ordered - coz it's waste of money

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[QUOTE="FunkMasterE3"]

Yeah i ordered a comp from Dell for $2052 AU.It comes with Vistaand specs of 256MB Nivida 8600GT,4 Gigs o Ram 667Mhz And a Intel Core Duo E6320...Anyway! getting to the point see Vista is full of bugs (So i've heard) and it has problems running certain games so will it have any problems running Comany of Heroes,Stalker and Bioshock? (i also have Aoe3,Warcraft and nuemerous other games but i suspect they'll have no problems)

PredatorRules

cancel your order immediately!!!!

4Gb of slow RAM???????

GeForce 8600???????

E6320???????

you call that uber computer?

ok i wouldn't say it's bad one but it sure sounds like bad order

instead of the 4 slow Gb RAM get yourself 2Gb of 800Mhz, and instead of crappy 8600 get some 8800

if you'll have few dollars left replace the 6300 dude to 6600 or better

oh and Vista is the last thing you'll have to be worried about...1st deal with the crap you've ordered - coz it's waste of money

ditto

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#18 Gog
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I only had problems with STALKER on Vista, but there is a patch.
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#19 FunkMasterE3
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Ok so i could ONLY spend $2000 for start and hell i've been waiting for a new comp for 2 years asides the specs (for me at least)will do me fine and i'll upgrade it soon(espically that processor) but is there any games that i said that it can MAX out?
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#20 Zero_Space
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Instead of picking apart his order stay on topic folks.

Anyhow. I haven't played STALKER but the other games should work just fine.

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#21 rob1101
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if thats USD then you got ripped and if you have doubts you can dual boot.
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#22 Platearmor_6
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STALKER is strictly not supported for Vista. But I think there is a patch now (1.4 I think).

On a side note why do some of these manufactuerors use 4GBs of 667Mhz RAM, when just 2GBs of 800Mhz is more than enough? And would leave a little money for a better CPU/GPU

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#23 syngaming
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STALKER works like a charm - of course with the latest patch :D. Honestly i havnt had any trouble with my Vista. All the games that i have been playing on XP work with Vista with no problem. Mind you there are some patches to make them work better with the new improvments ect. Even some of the old games like Starcraft, and Diablo 2 ect work with np. All i gotta personally get use to is the screen res :P lol. Seeing im playing D2 on 800*600 on a widescreen 22" lol.

With the computer specs, don't always go for higher the gigs the better it is kinda thing. With hardware there are lots of things contribute to the speed and performance, like some users have already said that 2Gb of 800is just as good as the 4Gb of 667 - while the 2gb is still cheaper.

When i choose hardware to upgrade, think smart and see what is best suited for A) buget B) value and C) performance. But your comp looks but not "uber".
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#24 AfterTheFall
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Thank you Syngaming! you've come up with a great response adise from saying "Your comp is pathatic" it's slightly above average to me now then for my LAST question can my comp max out any of these games? Company of Heroes,Bioshock (Note:The card i have 8600GT is in the reconmended for Bioshock) and STALKER also don't thrash my machine it will be upgaded anlong the way
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#25 AfterTheFall
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Whops! wrong account! don't worry it's still Funk MasterE3
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[QUOTE="FunkMasterE3"]

Yeah i ordered a comp from Dell for $2052 AU.It comes with Vistaand specs of 256MB Nivida 8600GT,4 Gigs o Ram 667Mhz And a Intel Core Duo E6320...Anyway! getting to the point see Vista is full of bugs (So i've heard) and it has problems running certain games so will it have any problems running Comany of Heroes,Stalker and Bioshock? (i also have Aoe3,Warcraft and nuemerous other games but i suspect they'll have no problems)

PredatorRules

cancel your order immediately!!!!

4Gb of slow RAM???????

GeForce 8600???????

E6320???????

you call that uber computer?

ok i wouldn't say it's bad one but it sure sounds like bad order

instead of the 4 slow Gb RAM get yourself 2Gb of 800Mhz, and instead of crappy 8600 get some 8800

if you'll have few dollars left replace the 6300 dude to 6600 or better

oh and Vista is the last thing you'll have to be worried about...1st deal with the crap you've ordered - coz it's waste of money

Yeah it's a complete ripoff, but I disagree with one of your points.

He should not replace the E6320 with the E6600, the only reason why the E6600 was so popular before was because it as the cheapest core 2 duo with 4mb l2cache, that's what it's about. Everyone knows you can overclock Core 2 duos mad, my friend overclocked his E6320 from 1.8 to 3.6 ghz.

Stick with the E6320, get 2 gb of ddr2800 instead of 4 gb of crap.

Definately replace that 8600 with 8800gts and that should only cost you about 2000 australian dollars... what you ARE getting should cost about 500 less.

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#27 kmagika
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STALKER is strictly not supported for Vista. But I think there is a patch now (1.4 I think).

On a side note why do some of these manufactuerors use 4GBs of 667Mhz RAM, when just 2GBs of 800Mhz is more than enough? And would leave a little money for a better CPU/GPU

Platearmor_6

Stalker works on vista even with the v1003 patch.

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#28 douglassaisho
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since when did uber mean peice of ****
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#29 speed1
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Also people please note it's AUD, not American dollars. For that price, I don't think he got ripped off, considering how expensive stuff is in Australia.

Don'tworrymateyou'rerigwillrunallthegameyoulistedprettydamnwell.Mylaptop(AsusG1s),hasthesamecardanditrunsthemprettywellatalmostanyresolution(upto1680x1050).AndyesIwouldalsorecommend2/3GigsoffasterRAM,as4GBisprettyuselessunlessyouhaveanx64system.Vistareadsupto3.2GBonly,so3GBistherealsweetspot(IMO).

STALKERwillrunmaxedoutuptoaresolutionof1440x900.Afterthatyoumightwanttolowershadows, AA and AF.

CoHrunsonmaxatDX9settingsuptoaresolutionof1440x900, at a very good and stable FPS.OnceyouputDX10settings,yougetamajorperformancehit.SoIwon'trecommendusingit.

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WTF ^ that's some weird **** you got going on there Speed1.
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Yeah i ordered a comp from Dell for $2052 AU.It comes with Vistaand specs of 256MB Nivida 8600GT,4 Gigs o Ram 667Mhz And a Intel Core Duo E6320...Anyway! getting to the point see Vista is full of bugs (So i've heard) and it has problems running certain games so will it have any problems running Comany of Heroes,Stalker and Bioshock? (i also have Aoe3,Warcraft and nuemerous other games but i suspect they'll have no problems)

FunkMasterE3

I'd wipe that ***** and load up Windows XP if I were you.

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#32 FunkMasterE3
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Can people PLEASE stay on the frigging topic rather than thrashing my machine!!! hell speed1 has had the BEST respose yet!NOW then can it max out any of those games that i've said alsospeed1 is right it's australian dollars so i think people have mistaken it for american
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#33 ElectricNZ
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Also people please note it's AUD, not American dollars. For that price, I don't think he got ripped off, considering how expensive stuff is in Australia.

Don'tworrymateyou'rerigwillrunallthegameyoulistedprettydamnwell.Mylaptop(AsusG1s),hasthesamecardanditrunsthemprettywellatalmostanyresolution(upto1680x1050).AndyesIwouldalsorecommend2/3GigsoffasterRAM,as4GBisprettyuselessunlessyouhaveanx64system.Vistareadsupto3.2GBonly,so3GBistherealsweetspot(IMO).

STALKERwillrunmaxedoutuptoaresolutionof1440x900.Afterthatyoumightwanttolowershadows, AA and AF.

CoHrunsonmaxatDX9settingsuptoaresolutionof1440x900, at a very good and stable FPS.OnceyouputDX10settings,yougetamajorperformancehit.SoIwon'trecommendusingit.

speed1

I've acknowledged the fact it's AUD, and it's still a rip off. I live in New Zealand, the Australian dollar is worth slightly more than the New Zealand dollar and for 2000 NZD you can get a Q6600, 8800GTX, 2gb 1066 ram...

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#34 Platearmor_6
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[QUOTE="Platearmor_6"]

STALKER is strictly not supported for Vista. But I think there is a patch now (1.4 I think).

On a side note why do some of these manufactuerors use 4GBs of 667Mhz RAM, when just 2GBs of 800Mhz is more than enough? And would leave a little money for a better CPU/GPU

kmagika

Stalker works on vista even with the v1003 patch.

I haven't played it in a while so I was just guessing.

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Can people PLEASE stay on the frigging topic rather than thrashing my machine!!! hell speed1 has had the BEST respose yet!NOW then can it max out any of those games that i've said alsospeed1 is right it's australian dollars so i think people have mistaken it for american FunkMasterE3

I'm not sure what frequency the E6320 runs at. But it should run Bioshock fine, I'm not sure about absolute max because it will force you to run it in DX10 (which if I'm mistaken is slightly more of a resource hog than DX9), but you will be able to run it high/almost max at the least. And STALKER should run fine to but like Bioshock, probably not maxed, I can't even COMPLETELY max STALKER and my computer is a beast. I'm not sure about Company of Heroes, as I said I don't actually know what frequency your CPU runs at but its a dual core so it will probably run pretty good. I've run CoH on a 2.8Ghz single core and a 2.4Ghz dual core and the diffrence between the two is astounding, I had to run it on low on the single core but the dual run it flat out maxed so it should run well. Answer your questions?

Also people are only trying to help. $2000Aus is a steep price for those specs. At that price you could have an E6600, 8800GTX, 2GBs 800Mhz RAM and a 320GB HDD. We are only trying to get you the best specs for your money. Also you don't have to worry to much about a pre-built with Vista, since the hardware with the best Vista compatibility should be selected if there a decent PC builder.

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You paid $2000 that that? It really sounds like you got ripped off. My computer in my sig cost me $2k, and that included an Antec Nine case and a 800 watt single rail power supply.

With the latest drivers, Vista will run fine. With STALKER, make sure you do the following:
1. Right click the shortcut and click properties
2. Set it to run as administrator.

If you do not do this, your game will play really wierd because the developer's who made STALKER are kinda noob.

rimnet00

and not just for stalker, all online games, you have to do this, you have to give the computer permission to go online. and to do this you have to run as administrator, so just do it for all your games, all you do is right click and click run as administrator.

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#37 FunkMasterE3
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Thanks Everyone! now i know it's not the BEST comp ever but im 14 and still ruled by my parents who wouldn't trust a small retailer buying a UBER comp from some online store and i know you were all trying to help and you all did a good job of that but i want to play the games i love not on MAX but still high(ish?)even if it can run them with horrible grapichs i would still be happy!(not saying that the card is horrible or anything)anyway if i weren't ruled by my parents.......THEN it might reach the rank of UBER playing the games i love on MAX
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#38 Skullheart
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Can people PLEASE stay on the frigging topic rather than thrashing my machine!!! hell speed1 has had the BEST respose yet!NOW then can it max out any of those games that i've said alsospeed1 is right it's australian dollars so i think people have mistaken it for american FunkMasterE3

They're just warning you that if you proceed with Vista then you're going to regret it.

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Ok so i could ONLY spend $2000 for start and hell i've been waiting for a new comp for 2 years asides the specs (for me at least)will do me fine and i'll upgrade it soon(espically that processor) but is there any games that i said that it can MAX out?FunkMasterE3
People were not saying the pc itself was particularly crap, but for the money your paying for it its crap...especially since your paying all that for it and then planning upgrades on top....
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#40 rimnet00
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Thanks Everyone! now i know it's not the BEST comp ever but im 14 and still ruled by my parents who wouldn't trust a small retailer buying a UBER comp from some online store and i know you were all trying to help and you all did a good job of that but i want to play the games i love not on MAX but still high(ish?)even if it can run them with horrible grapichs i would still be happy!(not saying that the card is horrible or anything)anyway if i weren't ruled by my parents.......THEN it might reach the rank of UBER playing the games i love on MAXFunkMasterE3
You are going to have a great time with that computer, no worries :D
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#41 BDL91
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i have a AMD 3500+ with an 8800gts 640mb and it maxes every one of those game out, pretty good for a single core . very happy with my pc even though its a bit old besides my gpu but it runs bioshock at a good 60 Fps and stalker well cuople gliches with dynamic lighting but runs up to 100fps:D
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#42 kervy
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I got the pc in my sig for roughly $1,400 so you pretty much over paid a lot..anyway, don't get vista unless you just want DX10 or the new feel of the vista interface. Other than that, reformat it and install xp sp2 :)