Got all my pc parts set, but don't know which processor to get

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#1 illusion4657
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I'm confused between two procesors, should I get the new 45nm e8400 dual core 3.0ghz or should I get an older 65nm quad core q6600 2.4ghz. Keep in mind on most sites the q6600 is only 50$ more than new e8400.

thanks for the help

edit: I want this processor for mainly gaming, like crysis

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Perhaps you would be better served by going with the E8400 and overclocking it to 4.0 GHz or more, seeing that most games are only starting to become optimized for dual-cores, let alone quad-cores. Also, since it's a Wolfdale chip, you get SSE4, which speeds up video encoding tasks significantly. On the other hand, the Q6600 was shown to have quite a performance boost over the older E6850 in applications that were quad-core-optimized, even at stock clock speeds. However, the E6850 is not a E8400, with the latter having much higher overclocking potential, 2 MB more cache, and SSE4. If you want a quad-core, I would suggest to wait for the Yorkfield quad-cores that AREN'T overpriced Core 2 Extreme models at this point in time.
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DON"T BUY THE E8400 !!!!

it has a cooling flaw from the factroy....once you try to overclock it it will become way too hot (100C + )

you should wait until they fix this issue if you want this CPU

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#4 ndrewn
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Well if you want it to last then get the quad core, but if you just want something now to game on any dual core cpu will be fine.
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#5 illusion4657
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thanks for the help, any other opinions?
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#6 Brainkiller05
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DON"T BUY THE E8400 !!!!

it has a cooling flaw from the factroy....once you try to overclock it it will become way too hot (100C + )

you should wait until they fix this issue if you want this CPU

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I bought an E8400 on Friday, havn't got it yet (1 day shipping ¬_¬)... plus I might need to buy a new motherboard cause this one is sucky and it says on the site it supports 8400 and other 45nm chips with a bios update but you need to overclock FSB and something else, so to get best performance looks like i need a new mobo.

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Perhaps you would be better served by going with the E8400 and overclocking it to 4.0 GHz or more, seeing that most games are only starting to become optimized for dual-cores, let alone quad-cores. Also, since it's a Wolfdale chip, you get SSE4, which speeds up video encoding tasks significantly. On the other hand, the Q6600 was shown to have quite a performance boost over the older E6850 in applications that were quad-core-optimized, even at stock clock speeds. However, the E6850 is not a E8400, with the latter having much higher overclocking potential, 2 MB more cache, and SSE4. If you want a quad-core, I would suggest to wait for the Yorkfield quad-cores that AREN'T overpriced Core 2 Extreme models at this point in time.NamelessPlayer
The Q9450 would be the ideal choice if you wish to go quad, then. I'm waiting on it myself. It's about 12% slower base against the 8400, but you do get the two additional cores. It's also supposed to street for only a modest premium over the E8400. Thing is, quads are a little harder to OC vs. duals. Weigh your pros and cons and decide between the E8400 and the Q9450.
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#8 dayaccus007
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E8400 with a good cooler is a much better choice than quad
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You won't tell a difference between a quad and dual when gaming. The only game out that utilizes quad cores to their full potential is Supreme Commander and there is a significant increase in performance w/ a quad in that particular game. But for every other game like Crysis, Half Life, COD4, Bioshock, etc, a quad will give no noticable increase and in some cases actually worse performance than a higher clocked dual core. Higher clocks = better for gaming rather than more cores, but we may see games in the near future using quads to their full potential in which case would outperform duals significantly. My advice to you is to buy a decent dual core like the e6850 or 8400 and put the rest of the money into a very high end video card 8800gtx/ultra or hd3870.
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There are some strategy titles that bottleneck at the CPU but most gaming (particularly FPS) is better served by higher clock speed on the rendering core. Between AI and pathfinding the upcoming Sins of a Solar Empire supposedly saturates modern quads (which means it brings dual cores to their knees) when you run with a large 'galaxy' and multiple AI's with large fleets. Essentially it depends on the kind of gaming you do, most gamers will be better served by the higher clock speed rather than more cores at this point in time.
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Part of it depends on what you plan to do outside of gaming. Me, I plan to do a lot of media work (editing, encoding, etc.). These tasks have been MT-friendly for a while now, so they'll naturally work better with a quad than with a dual. This is influencing my decision to wait for the Q9450. Also, quad-friendly games are bound to come sooner rather than later. Take Alan Wake. It'll be a Vista-exclusive game, and Remedy is pegging a dual-core as the minimum processor for the job--quad as recommended. Current games like those in Orange Box, yes, probably won't benefit much from quads (But I don't know about Crysis--it's still early in the lifecycle and could see an upgrade that can give quads a boost. We'll have to see), but since quads have been out for a while now, expect more and more games to take advantage of them. After all, going from 2-CPU coding to 4-CPU isn't as big a stretch as it was going from 1 to 2. IOW, a nice quad will probably make for a better long-term investment.

PS. As for the video card, go high but don't max out. If you ask me, a 512MB 8800GTS looks like the optimal bang for the buck. GTX costs quite a bit more for not that much benefit over the GTS, last I checked. Also, if you can afford to wait, let the GeForce 9 series come out in the next month or so. This should help drop prices on the 8's. (An exception to the not maxing out rule: if you have a high-res LCD, say 30 inches, then you'll probably need to max out to get full resolution on it)

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for gaming the e8400 is much better due to being clocked much higher and games lack support for more than 2 cores (many can't even use 2 fully) but for video the q6600 is better. I'd say get the e8400 and upgrade to the 45nm quad if you find you want quad
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#13 HuusAsking
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for gaming the e8400 is much better due to being clocked much higher and games lack support for more than 2 cores (many can't even use 2 fully) but for video the q6600 is better. I'd say get the e8400 and upgrade to the 45nm quad if you find you want quadimprezawrx500
Those quads you mentioned are due out this month, and the Q9450 looks like the best bang for the buck. If you want to go quad, I suggest being patient and waiting just a little longer.