Graphics Card Help: What Model Is It?

ok, a while back, my uncle gave me a box full of computer stuff. in it, theres this looks like never used graphics card. but, i can't find anything that says what model it is. all i know is that its an ATI Radeon and that it was made in 2004.

how can i find out what model it is?

and, is it better than the default graphics card i have in my computer?

my current one is a Intel(R) 82815 Graphics Controller (Microsoft Corporation) (Intel(R) 82815).

The problem with GPU z is that it wont tell you what it is until you install it and he may not have the right connector type.

Yeah i fubared up and didnt read he hadnt plugged it in yet.

Get out a tape measurer. If the connector with the gold contacts is 3 inches long, from one , from first contact to the last, its a AGP connector.

If its 3 and 3/8th of a inch, its PCI.

Look CLOSELY on the card. Do you see a long set of digits started with "102"? If so, type it out for us. It might not be 102 if it was just powered by ATI, but not built by them. Like how evga makes nvidia cards, but ATI did make a entire video card by themselves, and also had resellers use their chip and make their own card.

Take a picture and show us, that might help (we can at least tell you what interface the card uses). Or look for a smallish sticker on the card that may list the model type, could be on the back or front of the card.RayvinAzn

Agreed, most will have a model number sticker, although some of those are occasionally reused.

Here's a diagram of the three recent video edge connector arrangements:

http://www.diamondmm.com/images/bustypedrwng.gif

ok, i found out what it is. (i found the package it came in in the box.)

its a Radeon 9200 128M

no idea what that means, but, would it let me play games like crysis or something? or portal?

edit: crap. on the card itself, i looked closer at the sticker on the back.

it says that its an Radeon 7500 64MDDR

i guess thats a bad thing...

The two are practically the same thing, the cheapest that ATI had available in each of 2002 and 2003. The 8500 was the better one in 2002, and the 9200 was sort of a detuned version of that, so it had Dx8 capability, while the 7500 was only Dx7, but both were just too slow to waste time on from a gamers' point of view. I was curious about ATI and Sapphire codes, and looked at an X800 Pro card I have here that started acting badly last summer, so was replaced.

It has a label for an X300 attached to the back. Weird.

great...

but, is it better than my current card?

how about TF2?

great...

but, is it better than my current card?

how about TF2?

zymn1

Of course not. TF2 requires something decent. You can look up the requirements. The only reason either one would be "better" is simply the extremely old and weak chip that Intel provides. ATI and nVIDIA offer onboard chips that blow the 9200 away (if it actually had been one of those).

Didn't you read what I wrote about the worst Radeon from 2002?

82815? 815? Isn't that an old P3 chipset?

There's more wrong with your computer than just the video card, if that's the case...lol.

Major edit: Shoot, that was off. Sorry about that. I was remembering 440 chipsets.

Had we been discussing a desktop, I'm almost certain that Intel wasn't including onboard video for those. You had to get an SiS or VIA chipset back then to get IGPs included (for desktops). At least, that's the way I recall things from back then. The particular 82815 initialy described by the OP was an old laptop, and it was at least relatively possible to swap VGAs in the old laptops.

I had a Dell Latitude I gave to my daughter in law, with a P-II / 266 MHz CPU in it, and a discrete VGA that was replaceable.

Nope, it appears to have been a P4 chipset part all along.

Remember, back when P-IIIs were the top of the line, I'm almost certain that Intel wasn't including onboard video. You had to get an SiS or VIA chipset back then to get IGPs included. At least, that's the way I recall things from back then.

http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intel815/sb/cs-009143.htm

Kiwi_1

Just looked it up "on the Wikipedias."

The i815 is indeed a P3 chipset, and some versions of it did include onboard Intel graphics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Pentium_II.2FIII_Chipsets

well...

i installed it. but, i don't see any difference in the graphics. whats up with it?

and, it seems that i could run CoD.

great.

meh.

it seems to be working fine, why would i need new drivers?

and, my computer is apparently using it.

meh.

it seems to be working fine, why would i need new drivers?

and, my computer is apparently using it.

zymn1

will i see a difference in quake 3?zymn1

Graphics systems always work better when matched to the correct drivers.

Windows XP probably included ATI's own drivers, although likely not specific ones. Something of a conflict is showing up, since the VGA wasn't identified as being a Mobile 7500, and laptop cards of the P-II/ P-III era weren't easily swapped around (more modern laptops are even less adaptable), so a question occurs to me.

Are there in fact two really old computers, a P-III laptop, and an equally elderly desktop as well?

what?

i don't have a laptop. well, i have an old one, but thats not what i'm using.

guess what. i downloaded the tomb raider anniversary demo. it seems to run actually.

i already know about that site. its a life saver.

and, it says that i have installed: RADEON 7500 (Microsoft Corporation) (RADEON 7500 AGP (0x5157))

anyways, isn't tomb raider anniversary next gen?

heres a screenie. you won't believe your eyes. next gen. i bet i CAN run portal or team fortress.

where the portal demo. the one thats not for only the people with nvidia graphics cards?

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x166/zymn1/nextgentest.jpg

anyways, isn't tomb raider anniversary next gen?

zymn1

No chance. The actual game does require at least Dx9 capability, they claim, although by saying that a GF3/Ti will work, they are really saying Dx8. Dx9 is GF 6***. The Radeon 9*** cards, Dx9 excluding the 9200/ 9250, are from 2003, which is three generations backwards (GF3 and Dx8 would be five generations backward).

Minimum Specification
OPERATING SYSTEM:
Microsoft Windows 2000, XP, Vista
CPU:
Pentium 3 1.4GHz or Athlon XP 1500+
RAM:
256MB (for Windows 2000/XP)
512MB (for Windows Vista)
GRAPHICS:
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible 64MB 3D Accelerated Card with TnL (GeForce 3Ti/Radeon 9 series)
SOUND:
Microsoft Windows 2000/XP/Vista compatible sound card (100% DirectX 9.0c compatible)
DVD-ROM:
Quad-speed (4x) DVD-ROM drive
HARD DRIVE:
4GB free disk space
INPUT DEVICES:
100% Windows 2000/XP/Vista compatible mouse and keyboard

The recommended system requirements are as follows:

Recommended Specification
OPERATING SYSTEM:
Microsoft Windows XP, Vista
CPU:
Pentium 4 3.0GHz or Athlon 64 3000+
RAM:
1GB RAM
GRAPHICS:
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible 64MB 3D Accelerated Card with Vertex Shader 2.0 and Pixel Shader 2.0 (GeForce 6000 series/Radeon X series)
SOUND:
Microsoft Windows XP/Vista compatible sound card (100% DirectX 9.0c compatible)
DVD-ROM:
Quad-speed (4x) DVD-ROM drive
HARD DRIVE:
4GB free disk space
INPUT DEVICES:
100% Windows XP/Vista compatible mouse and keyboard/Xbox 360 controller for Windows

but its on the 360...

and the graphics look next gen.

and, i don't even have 1 GHz.

>__>

we don't need your input.

i uninstalled the Tomb Raider demo. i downloaded the Halo Demo. works with absolutely no lag!

quick note: before i had the graphics card, the Halo demo wouldn't work. but, now it does. so, theres a difference...

should i try to run the Crysis demo?

quick note: before i had the graphics card, the Halo demo wouldn't work. but, now it does. so, theres a difference...

should i try to run the Crysis demo?

zymn1

LOL at the tomb raider pic, what resolution u playing 640x480? lololol

but yeah, it esems if you want to play crysis its best looking for a new computer from what i can gather from this fread

sorry for bump, but i just wanted to reply...

yeah.

i can't seem to run the Far Cry demo... it freezes up while loading the level...

i've been thinking about trying the Need For Speed Most Wanted demo...

sorry for bump, but i just wanted to reply...

yeah.

i can't seem to run the Far Cry demo... it freezes up while loading the level...

i've been thinking about trying the Need For Speed Most Wanted demo...

zymn1

Dude zymn, is this honestly a joke. You think a video card, that numerous times you've been told is old and can't run Crysis, yet you persist. I smell something fishy. NO YOU CANNOT RUN CRYSIS, hell you can't run any game good from the past 6 years. Why don't you get A JOB, EARN SOME MONEY (around $1000) and get yourself a decent computer.

What are your specs anyways? A P2? or a P3?

sigh... no one seems to be direct to you, ok here it is

halo runs fine it isnt a current gen game, also that card is NO WHERE CLOSE TO BEING AS POWEFUL AS A 8800GT! in other words, NO CRYSIS for you with that card not only that but you need a much more powerful processor, and more RAM, i know you dont know much about hardware, but just because its better than your onboard doesnt mean you can run every game out there, if its already having issues with farcry... that tells you something there. it is old and outdated by a couple of generations to lazy to count im going to estimate, 8 generations behind? could be more

you can play games made from 2002 and under, lucky if any current gen games even play, but if you dont believe me try downloading Battlefield 2 demo, wont even load the menu screen.

its a rediculous question to ask if u can play crysis now cause of that card... its like asking people could you hike the world's tallest mountain using only a bike... its impossible, you cant, even though there wouldnt be grip logically. also logically you dont meet the requirements to play the game so would be the same thing as trying to bike a mountain (sorry if i dont make sense im tired)

thats not a graphics card you have now its a substitute for a graphics card built into the motherboard ie Integrated graphics, and will have no chance at playing games.

no, it RUNS. i know the difference...

and i'm saying that it was like that before i installed the card...

and, i have a P3.

and, i'm gonna try out battlefield 2. just to see.