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#1 Hashim19
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man i am the biggest fan of gta but hate to say that gta 4 is piece of crap .. it was fun for 1 week but after that it bores me alot

the fun factor was gone .. repetative gameplay and the biggest problem with gta 4 is the map same old liberty city

i enjoyed godfather 2 more then gta 4 .Godfather 2 have something new and unique and i enjoyed that game alot

gta 4 is all about graphics ..

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#2 fudgeblood
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Not sure what version of GTA 4 you were playing, but everyone I know loves GTA 4. It's an absolutely amazing game.
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#3 Nino_ze
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pal if you don't like it don't play it, but I think the game is good, much better than San Andreas

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#4 Hashim19
Member since 2007 • 1324 Posts

rockstar made effort but same liberty map comon and no planes

did u play godfather 2 .. the customization in that game was great

but in gta 4 there only few clothes withe no hair change same face :(

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#5 godofwar2610
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I agree, thats what happens when games rely on graphics and realism more than gameplay, sure san andreas had blocky character model heads, and you could travel the across whole world in 30 seconds but it was fun and amazing, there were jets, jetpacks, flamethrowers, quadbikes, taxi missions, cop missions, and a whole lot of other stuff that GTA4 didnt have. Once you finish gta 4 theres nothing to do, san andreas had at least 20 more hours than its prequel.
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#6 Hashim19
Member since 2007 • 1324 Posts

atleast they should changed the map .. :

and no customization in gta 4 was really sad thing this is next generation but we need fun not realism

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#7 siddarthshetty
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For me too GTA IV is the biggest disappointment...

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#8 ManicAce
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Yeah it gets boring rather quickly, I loved the first 15 hours or so but after you've done everything once it goes downhill fast, it's just not as much fun to mess around as in the old ones.
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#9 GazaAli
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its really sad when developers do a sequel for a famous succsseful title horribly.i didnt play the game,but from what i hear from people,they changed the overall theme and feeling of the game.ijust dont understand why developers have to do this sometimes.i mean come on the title is good,it has a large fan base,why trying something completly new and ruin the game?????
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#10 SavageM2
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I actually liked Grand Theft Auto IV better then San Andreas. I thought the whole body upkeep thing was annoying. Although I thought the customization was cool I honestly didn't use it much.

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#11 Tresca_
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I'm glad they took a serious approach this time round. Hopefully they will keep it up.

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#12 andy_lyall
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I'm surprised that you're comparing it to Godfather 2. GTA 4 didn't hold my attention for very long it's true (although I did enjoy it) but Godfather 2 sucked....... Royally...... I mean it was really really bad.
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#13 555SSOO
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man i am the biggest fan of gta but hate to say that gta 4 is piece of crap .. it was fun for 1 week but after that it bores me alot

the fun factor was gone .. repetative gameplay and the biggest problem with gta 4 is the map same old liberty city

i enjoyed godfather 2 more then gta 4 .Godfather 2 have something new and unique and i enjoyed that game alot

gta 4 is all about graphics ..

Hashim19
U R wrong
Not sure what version of GTA 4 you were playing, but everyone I know loves GTA 4. It's an absolutely amazing game. fudgeblood
U R right:D
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I'm guessing he's pissed about the performance of the game.

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#15 funked_up
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If you enjoyed the Godfather 2, you're a lost cause.
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#16 HenriH-42
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I respect your opinion but I disagree. GTA 4 is my favorite game in the series and I've played every one of them.

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#17 rmfd341
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[QUOTE="Hashim19"]

man i am the biggest fan of gta but hate to say that gta 4 is piece of crap .. it was fun for 1 week but after that it bores me alot

the fun factor was gone .. repetative gameplay and the biggest problem with gta 4 is the map same old liberty city

i enjoyed godfather 2 more then gta 4 .Godfather 2 have something new and unique and i enjoyed that game alot

gta 4 is all about graphics ..

555SSOO
U R wrong
Not sure what version of GTA 4 you were playing, but everyone I know loves GTA 4. It's an absolutely amazing game. fudgeblood
U R right:D

This.. Know what would be the best thing ever? San Andreas with the Rage Engine. THAT would be pur fu**ing oursom!
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#18 Delphanius
Member since 2008 • 1176 Posts

I think GTA IV is amazing...

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#19 dsgsdfgf
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I couldn't agree more. I find GTA 4 very boring and I haven't bothered finishing it since almost every mission feels the same. And that's only after about a third of the game.

They took away most of the things that made GTA fun to play just to make it more realistic.

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#20 Macutchi
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I actually liked Grand Theft Auto IV better then San Andreas.

SavageM2

me too. the first third of gta iv was amazing, the 2nd third humdrum, the last third pretty damn good, especially towards the end

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#21 dakan45
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Not sure what version of GTA 4 you were playing, but everyone I know loves GTA 4. It's an absolutely amazing game. fudgeblood
really... weird chek the user ratings...
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#22 dakan45
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pal if you don't like it don't play it, but I think the game is good, much better than San Andreas

Nino_ze
HMM there was a thread in ps3 forum about how inferior gta iv is from san andreas... worse story, smaller map, less vehicles and weapons, less quests... i guess you are talking about the combat which i agree its better.
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#23 dakan45
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In any case i found it less borring than mass effect, whic was a bore also its better than assasin creed, i wouldnt say its borring its just doesnt grab you in to keep playing, but it does a better effort than far cry 2
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#24 Solid_Snake56
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To each his own I guess, but GTA 4 is awesome.

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#25 dakan45
Member since 2009 • 18819 Posts

To each his own I guess, but GTA 4 is awesome.

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yeah there are too many diffirent opinions about this game, for me its ok better than some other AAs, to some other people ts the best game ever and there are also people who find it deathborring or people who hate it for its graphical problems also we got those who find it inferior from san andreas...
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#26 gamer_96
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No way man its best in the series

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#27 dakan45
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No way man its best in the series

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So i got to ask, why is it better than san andreas?
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#28 oldogg
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me too, ugh... HUGE letdown. i had way more FUN and fonder memories of vice city, frankly. gta4 had terrible music, boring story, boring quests.... the cellphone was not fun to use.... so disappointed.

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#29 RyuRanVII
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It was a huge disappointment.

GTA IV has some impressive animations and lots of cool details, but Rockstar focused too much on the visuals and so little on gameplay and fun. The game has the worse missions and secondary characters on the series. The first part was fun, but it got boring after a quarter of the game. I tried so hard to finish it, but I couldn't stand the lack of creativity for the missions and dialogs/cutscenes.

I won't even mention the blurry/aliased image quality nor the **** performance.

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#30 Andrewz24
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i think GTA 2 was the best of them all
(the one where you see yourself from above but with enhanced graphics)

sure there were no shipsairplains
but there were trains, street gangs, clans
you could put a mine in your car and let other players "drive" it >)

there were cool electric weapons and flamthrowers where you see cops runnin in circles burning >)
mass destraction was really a beautiful thing... (when you see it from above with all the bodys)

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#31 FamiBox
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I didn't like it at first... then I got addicted to it.... now I see it as a mixed bag.

I like it, but it does piss me off sometimes. It is repetitive for sure, but the story always makes up for it.

I can understand someone thinking it was boring. I used to think so... and I'm sure I will get bored of it again.

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#32 Kaelken
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Not sure what version of GTA 4 you were playing, but everyone I know loves GTA 4. It's an absolutely amazing game. fudgeblood

Not sure what version your playing but everyone I know recognize GTA IV as haivng the weakest gameplay, weakest radio stations, weakest optmiazation, weakest story, weasket number of vehicles

Hell, they chose to copy a city they've already used just to brag about how ORIGINAL and INNOVATIVE they have become

Is this guy kidding or what

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#33 dakan45
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[QUOTE="fudgeblood"]Not sure what version of GTA 4 you were playing, but everyone I know loves GTA 4. It's an absolutely amazing game. Kaelken

Not sure what version your playing but everyone I know recognize GTA IV as haivng the weakest gameplay, weakest radio stations, weakest optmiazation, weakest story, weasket number of vehicles

Hell, they chose to copy a city they've already used just to brag about how ORIGINAL and INNOVATIVE they have become

Is this guy kidding or what

True look at the user scores.
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#34 Charles_Dickens
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I respect your opinion but I disagree. GTA 4 is my favorite game in the series and I've played every one of them.

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A game you actually like! Excuse me for just a second, I have to go over here and pass out.
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#35 HenriH-42
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[QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

I respect your opinion but I disagree. GTA 4 is my favorite game in the series and I've played every one of them.

Charles_Dickens

A game you actually like! Excuse me for just a second, I have to go over here and pass out.

:D I actually like a lot of games, just not a lot of the modern ones.

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#36 deactivated-5f3fa34a024b3
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its really sad when developers do a sequel for a famous succsseful title horribly.i didnt play the game,but from what i hear from people,they changed the overall theme and feeling of the game.ijust dont understand why developers have to do this sometimes.i mean come on the title is good,it has a large fan base,why trying something completly new and ruin the game?????GazaAli

I don't understand, people always go on about how sequels are just milking the franchise and how these games just keep getting churned out as the same old stuff but in a different setting, and now that Rockstar tries to take a different direction it's a bad thing?

for those who say it's a "piece of crap"... well I'm afraid you are just wrong, even if you didn't like the game personally, just from playing surely you can see just how much quality there is in this game. The animation is fantastic, the characters are varied and often funny, the world is incredibly detailed, the combat is well doneand there are a lot of missions that are genuinely original... and there is quite a lot of stuff to do after finishing the story (addmittedly, not as much as some of the previous games) such as the random friends dotted about the place, the missions for little jacob AND of course, the whole multiplayer suite...

so maybe it isn't as crazy or silly as some of the older games, if that's what you want in a game, go buy Saints Row 2... its generally a more wacky game and there is a lot of customization for you to play around with if that's what you are really bothered about...

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#37 hama666
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I agree with OP, but I wouldnt say it was totally crap, just severely overrated. GTA IV on its own is a great game, but is a very poor sequel to San Andreas considering that they removed most the fun activities and replaced them with this silly gimmicky relationship system which gets tedious after the first time. Better graphics and presentation doesn't justify weaker gameplay for me....ever. Personally I had a LOT more fun playing Saints Row 2 which ironically enough felt like it was the proper sequel to San Andreas considering the huge number of diversions available ontop of the main missions. It also had that typical cranky humour associated with the GTA games, which in GTA IV was swapped for a more gritty and realistic tone.

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#38 Macutchi
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[QUOTE="gamer_96"]

No way man its best in the series

dakan45

So i got to ask, why is it better than san andreas?

its just personal preference really, both had their fair share of faults, it just depends which faults annoyed you the most, in my case it was the the faults of sa.

my main reasons for preferring gta iv are:

i much preferred niko to cj (ive had turds with more intelligence and charisma than carl johnson)

i loved the fast travel system in gta iv, san andreas was too big for me, driving became a chore

i much preferred the smaller, more compact game area in gta iv. easier to memorise and become familiar with

i preferred the story and main characters in gta iv, despite some questionable character contradictions

im a bit of a graphics whore and loved the visuals (and attention to detail, which was stunning) in gta iv

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#39 vj02
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For me too GTA IV is the biggest disappointment...

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Nah...It's not a disappointment. The gameplay is definitely better than San Andreas.
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#40 1kalli1
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The game sucked, stop being in denial. Really. I mean 10? For a game that is like all the other gtas, just less stuff to do and boring character. Gta 4 is a 7,5-8.
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#41 True_Sounds
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Vice City was rockstar at their pinnacle. Nothing they've put out since that game has met the standards that game set.

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#42 F1_2004
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God, Vice City was great. 80's music, Miami, beaches and speedboats, cocaine trafficking. What beats that? Instead I've now got GTA4 with some chick who won't stop calling me for dates and the neediest cousin I've ever had.
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#43 MrWednesday14
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="gamer_96"]

No way man its best in the series

Macutchi

So i got to ask, why is it better than san andreas?

its just personal preference really, both had their fair share of faults, it just depends which faults annoyed you the most, in my case it was the the faults of sa.

my main reasons for preferring gta iv are:

i much preferred niko to cj (ive had turds with more intelligence and charisma than carl johnson)

i loved the fast travel system in gta iv, san andreas was too big for me, driving became a chore

i much preferred the smaller, more compact game area in gta iv. easier to memorise and become familiar with

i preferred the story and main characters in gta iv, despite some questionable character contradictions

im a bit of a graphics whore and loved the visuals (and attention to detail, which was stunning) in gta iv

^^ I agree with you although for me SA was superior to IV. Free roaming around the massive map was just way more fun and there was a hell of a lot to do. GTA IV still had lots of strengths though such as the story, the main character, the wanted level system, the graphics (obviously), and just the grittier feel...all of which I liked a lot.
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#44 fighter91
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GTA IV is one of the most disappointing games IMO. I was expecting it to be one of the best games of this gen because of the reviews it got and because I'm a big GTA fan. However, this game was a huge letdown for me.
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#45 mo0ksi
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I can't even go back to play the previous GTA game after 4. I've followed the series for years and GTA4 is easily the best in the series. Much greater, more detailed city, better variety in the radio stations, much better writing than in the other games, greatly refined gamplay, and unlike the previous GTA games, this one actually has good graphics. I put in more than 300 hours in the game, and I was very skeptic about the hype that followed too.

Really, I think that people were expecting somewhere between a San Andreas 2 or Vice City 2, but San Andreas put the wacky GTA formula to its highest potential, and instead of R* dragging on with the same gameplay, they refined and matured the design of the series. Some people loved it, some people hated it. But what I'm not getting is how people actually call it crap when there's nothing in the game that resembels below average quality. It's fine if you were diappointed but calling it crap is just an exaggeration.

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God, Vice City was great. 80's music, Miami, beaches and speedboats, cocaine trafficking. What beats that? Instead I've now got GTA4 with some chick who won't stop calling me for dates and the neediest cousin I've ever had.F1_2004

You bring up the lamest reasons for Vice City being better and GTA 4 worse. So every game should be in a tropical location with 80's music?

All it takes is a simple press of the ignore button to get rid of someone calling to hang out.

How about we directly compare the gameplay? Both games have a bank robbery mission. GTA 4's bank robbery was far better and much more fleshed out.

I was so tired of the horrible ai in past GTA's. Even when randomly going postal the cops know how to take cover. No other sandbox game comes anywhere close to GTA 4's ai. I'l take the ai improvements over San Andreas's frills anyday.

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#47 True_Sounds
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]God, Vice City was great. 80's music, Miami, beaches and speedboats, cocaine trafficking. What beats that? Instead I've now got GTA4 with some chick who won't stop calling me for dates and the neediest cousin I've ever had.Cranler

You bring up the lamest reasons for Vice City being better and GTA 4 worse. So every game should be in a tropical location with 80's music?

All it takes is a simple press of the ignore button to get rid of someone calling to hang out.

How about we directly compare the gameplay? Both games have a bank robbery mission. GTA 4's bank robbery was far better and much more fleshed out.

I was so tired of the horrible ai in past GTA's. Even when randomly going postal the cops know how to take cover. No other sandbox game comes anywhere close to GTA 4's ai. I'l take the ai improvements over San Andreas's frills anyday.

I think he sums it up perfectly. It's taste I guess. And you're reading past the humor in his post, I didn't read those as being the key reasons why it was better.

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#48 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]God, Vice City was great. 80's music, Miami, beaches and speedboats, cocaine trafficking. What beats that? Instead I've now got GTA4 with some chick who won't stop calling me for dates and the neediest cousin I've ever had.True_Sounds

You bring up the lamest reasons for Vice City being better and GTA 4 worse. So every game should be in a tropical location with 80's music?

All it takes is a simple press of the ignore button to get rid of someone calling to hang out.

How about we directly compare the gameplay? Both games have a bank robbery mission. GTA 4's bank robbery was far better and much more fleshed out.

I was so tired of the horrible ai in past GTA's. Even when randomly going postal the cops know how to take cover. No other sandbox game comes anywhere close to GTA 4's ai. I'l take the ai improvements over San Andreas's frills anyday.

I think he sums it up perfectly. It's taste I guess.

It doesnt make sense to bring up the location. Surely they'll make another based in a similar local.

The only thing I found better about Vice was the radio commercials. With the pc version you can play whatever music you want.

The only thing bad thing he said about GTA 4 is something thats easily taken care of. Shouldnt even be brought up.

I want to hear some real details why Vice is better. I'll give some reasons why its not. Vice Citys motorcycle crash damage was too realistic. When you die in Vice you lose all your weaps.

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#49 Carminesqueez
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gta 4 = amazing

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#50 REforever101
Member since 2005 • 11223 Posts

yea, gta4 is superior to all other gta games on paper....in practice its just not nearly as exciting

probably because its not fun to do virtual chores and hang out with virtual people in order to gain minor perks from them