Gta IV 20FPS?!

[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="sirlag01"]

This game is kind of a joke, it doesn't even support AA, whereas San Andreas did... it's just unbelievable, it's like they're taking steps backwards in terms of world size (only one city, SA had 3 major cities) and of course advanced graphics settings.

sirlag01

LOL yet it doesn't even have AA. I'd rather take SA's graphics with AA over GTAIV's, and GTAIV's graphics aren't even good.

Is the game Cpu or Vga heavy? Specs:

8gb ram

X4 970: 3.2ghz (overclock up to 4.0)

580gtx

[QUOTE="sirlag01"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"] Once again, people don't understand why it doesn't have AA and automatically label it a console port. GTA 4 had very advanced rendering methods for its time. It uses a deffered renderer which makes normal AA very buggy and problematic in DX9. As for graphics settings, obviously has more than SA.kickass1337

LOL yet it doesn't even have AA. I'd rather take SA's graphics with AA over GTAIV's, and GTAIV's graphics aren't even good.

Yeah, but what about Nvidia? There's no real native support for it, whereas San Andreas had an AA option in the game menu, bloody unbelievable.

It's such a shame the game is badly optimized. I really wanted to pick this up for my new rig and play through it again. Perhaps i will just go for the episodes.

It's such a shame the game is badly optimized. I really wanted to pick this up for my new rig and play through it again. Perhaps i will just go for the episodes.

BattleSpectre

Is the game Cpu or Vga heavy? Specs:

8gb ram

X4 970: 3.2ghz (overclock up to 4.0)

580gtx

TailBlood

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

Is the game Cpu or Vga heavy? Specs:

8gb ram

X4 970: 3.2ghz (overclock up to 4.0)

580gtx

mitu123

I didn't play Balad of G Tony. Is it as badly opt. as gta 4?

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]

Is the game Cpu or Vga heavy? Specs:

8gb ram

X4 970: 3.2ghz (overclock up to 4.0)

580gtx

TailBlood

I didn't play Balad of G Tony. Is it as badly opt. as gta 4?

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Cpu by far, loves to eat up quad cores.mitu123

I didn't play Balad of G Tony. Is it as badly opt. as gta 4?

[QUOTE="kickass1337"]

[QUOTE="sirlag01"]

LOL yet it doesn't even have AA. I'd rather take SA's graphics with AA over GTAIV's, and GTAIV's graphics aren't even good.

sirlag01

Yeah, but what about Nvidia? There's no real native support for it, whereas San Andreas had an AA option in the game menu, bloody unbelievable.

[QUOTE="sirlag01"]

[QUOTE="kickass1337"] with amd cards u can have MLAA.....and it works fine

ocstew

Yeah, but what about Nvidia? There's no real native support for it, whereas San Andreas had an AA option in the game menu, bloody unbelievable.

Oh no way, i heard the episodes were different compared to GTA IV.

It's at least playable on high settings at 1080p right?

[QUOTE="BattleSpectre"]

It's such a shame the game is badly optimized. I really wanted to pick this up for my new rig and play through it again. Perhaps i will just go for the episodes.

realguitarhero5

[QUOTE="sirlag01"]

[QUOTE="kickass1337"] with amd cards u can have MLAA.....and it works fine

ocstew

Yeah, but what about Nvidia? There's no real native support for it, whereas San Andreas had an AA option in the game menu, bloody unbelievable.

Yes I'd rather take GTA SA's graphics with high AA than GTAIV's stock, which doesn't look that much better than San Andreas IMO. I don't care why it doesn't have AA, such an innovative renderer without AA? What a joke. And who the hell do you think you are calling me a PC elitist? I am definitely not, just in this day and age, all games should fully support AA. Why don't you get out of here?

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="BattleSpectre"]

It's such a shame the game is badly optimized. I really wanted to pick this up for my new rig and play through it again. Perhaps i will just go for the episodes.

Elann2008

It plays worse with AMD GPU's... I have two HD 6950's and im getting 40-50FPS average with 4x AA at 1920-1080.Grey_Eyed_Elf

Download some mods and it makes it run 10x better and also major improvement in the graphics. Ex. Realistic IV, Visual IV, + get ENB series.

Download some mods and it makes it run 10x better and also major improvement in the graphics. Ex. Realistic IV, Visual IV, + get ENB series.

KABCOOL

[QUOTE="ocstew"]

[QUOTE="sirlag01"]

Yeah, but what about Nvidia? There's no real native support for it, whereas San Andreas had an AA option in the game menu, bloody unbelievable.

sirlag01

Yes I'd rather take GTA SA's graphics with high AA than GTAIV's stock, which doesn't look that much better than San Andreas IMO. I don't care why it doesn't have AA, such an innovative renderer without AA? What a joke. And who the hell do you think you are calling me a PC elitist? I am definitely not, just in this day and age, all games should fully support AA. Why don't you get out of here?

You sir, are abslolutely blind.

San Andreas is one of the ugliest games I have ever played, even for it's time. I mean, in GTAIV, hands are actually hands...

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]It plays worse with AMD GPU's... I have two HD 6950's and im getting 40-50FPS average with 4x AA at 1920-1080.ocstew

pretty sure he ment AF

[QUOTE="sirlag01"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"] I've already told you why GTA 4 didn't have AA. It's method of rendering at the time did not support MSAA in any form. It was innovative and AA would cause artifacts and murder performance. Today we have solutions like MLAA. What is your point? You would rather take SA's graphics with 24 x MSAA rather than stock GTA 4 without any AA which looks much better anyway? Get out of here. I know this is a poorly concealed attempt at PC elitism, with you trying to call out GTA 4 for its lack of AA, just stop.

theafiguy

Yes I'd rather take GTA SA's graphics with high AA than GTAIV's stock, which doesn't look that much better than San Andreas IMO. I don't care why it doesn't have AA, such an innovative renderer without AA? What a joke. And who the hell do you think you are calling me a PC elitist? I am definitely not, just in this day and age, all games should fully support AA. Why don't you get out of here?

You sir, are abslolutely blind.

San Andreas is one of the ugliest games I have ever played, even for it's time. I mean, in GTAIV, hands are actually hands...

Go frak yourself.

[QUOTE="KABCOOL"]

Download some mods and it makes it run 10x better and also major improvement in the graphics. Ex. Realistic IV, Visual IV, + get ENB series.

SPBoss

[QUOTE="theafiguy"]

[QUOTE="sirlag01"]

Yes I'd rather take GTA SA's graphics with high AA than GTAIV's stock, which doesn't look that much better than San Andreas IMO. I don't care why it doesn't have AA, such an innovative renderer without AA? What a joke. And who the hell do you think you are calling me a PC elitist? I am definitely not, just in this day and age, all games should fully support AA. Why don't you get out of here?

sirlag01

You sir, are abslolutely blind.

San Andreas is one of the ugliest games I have ever played, even for it's time. I mean, in GTAIV, hands are actually hands...

Go frak yourself.

So you have nothing to add? There is no way on earth San Andreas looks anything like GTA IV...

Yes I'd rather take GTA SA's graphics with high AA than GTAIV's stock, which doesn't look that much better than San Andreas IMO. I don't care why it doesn't have AA, such an innovative renderer without AA? What a joke. And who the hell do you think you are calling me a PC elitist? I am definitely not, just in this day and age, all games should fully support AA. Why don't you get out of here?

sirlag01

This is San Andreas, no mods:

This is GTA IV (Not sure about the settings, but it still proves my point):

Seriously?

[QUOTE="sirlag01"]

Yes I'd rather take GTA SA's graphics with high AA than GTAIV's stock, which doesn't look that much better than San Andreas IMO. I don't care why it doesn't have AA, such an innovative renderer without AA? What a joke. And who the hell do you think you are calling me a PC elitist? I am definitely not, just in this day and age, all games should fully support AA. Why don't you get out of here?

KillerJuan77

This is San Andreas, no mods:

This is GTA IV (Not sure about the settings, but it still proves my point):

Seriously?

Seriously what??? If I like GTA:SA's graphics with AA over GTAIV's graphics without AA, that's just me. You people can't accept that? Jeez, screw you.

It's not so much that as you're presenting your arguments in a childish fashion.theafiguy

Exactly, if we were going to judge a game's overall technical achievements in whether they have AA or not then Crysis would suck (Lets face it, AA is a BEAST in Crysis and it end ups being more demanding to enable 4XAA than running the game on high settings), F.E.A.R. 3 would be unwatchable in DX9, almost every UE3 game would look horrendous and the less said about old games the better.

It's not so much that as you're presenting your arguments in a childish fashion.theafiguy

Whatever, I don't care about you guys anymore, honestly. Go and jump off a bridge. It's my opinion, nothing more. You guys obviously can't handle that.

[QUOTE="SPBoss"][QUOTE="KABCOOL"]

Download some mods and it makes it run 10x better and also major improvement in the graphics. Ex. Realistic IV, Visual IV, + get ENB series.

mitu123

Running on a GTX 460 and an i5 2310 Quad, I get around 20 frames per second with everything on very high(And the settings are within the GPU memory limits), at 1080p.

WTF is wrong with this game? Picked it up on steam during the summer sale. The game runs fine on a mixture of high/very high with 33 Draw distance, at 60fps, but when I up a few more settings, it goes ballistic.

Any patches?

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