GTA IV Struggling FPS Graphics Wise

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#1 FamilyGuyFan507
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I bought GTA IV hoping to run this baby, and I know it can be done with a 650M (tons of visual proof on the internet) but it on mine is struggling. Apparently it is poorly optimized and has tons of issues. Anyway to fix this? I haven't found a way to patch it, but I'm not sure if that was it. I defragged the folder which helped a LITTLE but there has to be a way I can fully run this game on Max without getting destroyed (I seriously have like 2 fps at high).

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#2 Twisted14
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What CPU do you have? Pretty sure GTA4 was more CPU intensive because of the open world.
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#3 FamilyGuyFan507
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i5 overlocked to a 3.1. It should be able to handle the game A LOT better than 2 frames per second. Even Medium it just hovers around 25.

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#4 gamebreakerz__
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Game is terribly unoptimized, patch it up (although assuming you actually bought it then it will automatically do this) and run it on lowest settings except resolution. It's practically the only way it will be playable with that graphics card.
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#5 FamilyGuyFan507
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I did not download any updates for it. Maybe that is the reason.

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#6 gamebreakerz__
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I did not download any updates for it. Maybe that is the reason.

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Did you actually buy the game?
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#7 FamilyGuyFan507
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[QUOTE="FamilyGuyFan507"]

I did not download any updates for it. Maybe that is the reason.

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Did you actually buy the game?

Yes, I did. Although I didn't get anything for patches or downloads for that. Hmm.

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#8 FamilyGuyFan507
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Great. Now it won't run. It keeps coming up with some damn error. Ugh.

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I did not download any updates for it. Maybe that is the reason.

FamilyGuyFan507

considering all the patches dramatically increase the fps and alter the graphics options, this would be the case

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#10 FamilyGuyFan507
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[QUOTE="FamilyGuyFan507"]

I did not download any updates for it. Maybe that is the reason.

wis3boi

considering all the patches dramatically increase the fps and alter the graphics options, this would be the case

For some reason, Patch 7 completely screwed my **** up. I don't know. I'm going to re-install the game. I've seen people with my exact computer run this at ultra at 35-60 FPS. 2 FPS is just ridiculous.

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#11 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="FamilyGuyFan507"]

I did not download any updates for it. Maybe that is the reason.

FamilyGuyFan507

considering all the patches dramatically increase the fps and alter the graphics options, this would be the case

For some reason, Patch 7 completely screwed my **** up. I don't know. I'm going to re-install the game. I've seen people with my exact computer run this at ultra at 35-60 FPS. 2 FPS is just ridiculous.

Yeah from what I experienced only go up to patch 6. If you get good frames after that I recommend playing on medium with the enb series graphics mod, it's a tiny download but it doesn't even look like the same game.
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#12 FamilyGuyFan507
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[QUOTE="FamilyGuyFan507"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

considering all the patches dramatically increase the fps and alter the graphics options, this would be the case

gamebreakerz__

For some reason, Patch 7 completely screwed my **** up. I don't know. I'm going to re-install the game. I've seen people with my exact computer run this at ultra at 35-60 FPS. 2 FPS is just ridiculous.

Yeah from what I experienced only go up to patch 6. If you get good frames after that I recommend playing on medium with the enb series graphics mod, it's a tiny download but it doesn't even look like the same game.

I'm hoping to do this now. Install just finished. I know my computer can do a lot better than what it is now. I'm hoping to download it, patch it and then mod it. No point in modding it if I cannot even run it without mods. Ugh.

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#13 FamilyGuyFan507
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I don't understand the patches at all. I get two executable files to run, one says I need to do the installer? The other runs fine (asks me to remove the SC?) and I have a zip file full of files...I ran the one file that asks to remove the SC...now what!?

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#14 FamilyGuyFan507
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Now it won't run and keeps giving me the option to log into my Social Club, whether I decline it or not...nothing changes...UGH!

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#15 wis3boi
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if it's of any help..probably not...my boxed copy of gta4 stopped working altogether too and I got the full set on steam for $5 without the crappy drm and patching

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Badly optimized game is badly optimized. What can you do i hear you ask?

Nothing! just hope GTA V will be a better optimized game when it comes for the PC.

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#17 FamilyGuyFan507
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Updated. Nothing changed. No patch. It just keeps popping up Social Club wanting me to join. If I click yes, nothing changes. If I click no, nothing changes. I patched the 6th patch, as well as the 7th patch. It keeps popping up with some error if I try the game launcher. So...I have NO idea what to do now.

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GTAIV will be used for years to come to teach developers why optimization is necessary what happens if you don't do it.
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Fixed it. After an hour of messing with it, two uninstall/installs and I figured it out. Just had to download Windows Live Games for it. Ultra settings (minus night shadows) and I play the game at 42 FPS. I still have yet to OC my GPU or CPU. I am so happy. Here comes the mods. ;)

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Fixed it. After an hour of messing with it, two uninstall/installs and I figured it out. Just had to download Windows Live Games for it. Ultra settings (minus night shadows) and I play the game at 42 FPS. I still have yet to OC my GPU or CPU. I am so happy. Here comes the mods. ;)

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not surpruised that sh!t Live caused it. I removed it from my game with Xliveless.dll

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#21 Twisted14
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I was going to say that GFWL should do patching for you. Had I brought it up I may have saved you a couple of hours of messing around, sorry. But at least now you've got it working.
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#22 FamilyGuyFan507
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I tried to put in the mods, then it stopped working.

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#23 FamilyGuyFan507
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I tried to put in the mods, then it stopped working.

FamilyGuyFan507

What I did was download a couple of the mods, copy and pasted. I went into the game, into the options and everything was set at the ABSOLUTE WORST quality possible, including resolution. Nothing could be changed. I tried to play the game at the play game function and it stayed black. Nothing. So, here I go uninstalling it AGAIN. Haha.

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what mods you are using can have all the difference, because a lot of the patches broke a lot of mods unless you like to spend a long period of time sorting through them.

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#25 Elann2008
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I hate Social Club and GFWL when they're together. xD

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#26 Cwagmire21
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Badly optimized game is badly optimized. What can you do i hear you ask?

Nothing! just hope GTA V will be a better optimized game when it comes for the PC.

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If it comes to the PC. :(

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#27 FamilyGuyFan507
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what mods you are using can have all the difference, because a lot of the patches broke a lot of mods unless you like to spend a long period of time sorting through them.

wis3boi

Just placed random mods in there. Hahahaha. Modding has always been that easy, and it just stopped working. So, I went through and uninstalled again.

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and then the tc realizes the game is not even good the end
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#29 Cwagmire21
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and then the tc realizes the game is not even good the endJigglyWiggly_

Wel yahz it gotz nuthin on Quak Liv3

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GTA is hit and miss.
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#31 Ross_the_Boss6
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I feel for you. I got GTAIV and spent hours trying to get it looking and running nicely and eventualy gave up. Never touched the game again.

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[QUOTE="FamilyGuyFan507"]

Fixed it. After an hour of messing with it, two uninstall/installs and I figured it out. Just had to download Windows Live Games for it. Ultra settings (minus night shadows) and I play the game at 42 FPS. I still have yet to OC my GPU or CPU. I am so happy. Here comes the mods. ;)

wis3boi

not surpruised that sh!t Live caused it. I removed it from my game with Xliveless.dll

GFWL is the scourge of PC gaming. Just an unnecessary piece of garbage that belongs on Xbox only.
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Edit: saw you got it figure out. yeah, GFWL is sh!t. I also took it out with the xliveless.dll