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#1 ydnarrewop
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A Happy Friday to All! So far all is well with my experience. I'm liking some of the interface improvements..mini map for one :) However, still getting booted off unexpectedly. Odd since they said they were doubling server size? Still Beta I know I know. I'm still enjoying it :)

Any comments so far?

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Performance wise I can max it out now and it runs SO MUCH better. Before, I would get the same performance no matter what the settings were.

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#3 JohnF111
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Yeah a few times i've been booted off the server but don't see any performance improvements, it was always good for me anyway. Seems they changed the Skills section as well where you can choose what Skills you have on the right hand side UI. Not bad at all I say, as soon as they fix those damn connection issues I recon it'll be good to go unless there have been other issues reported.
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Performance wise I can max it out now and it runs SO MUCH better. Before, I would get the same performance no matter what the settings were.

Beetroot502
Yep I agree. The performance is much much better. However, it's still not refined. I'm running max settings and getting 40-60fps. IMO it shouldn't drop below 50 fps lol. Maybe I'm dreaming :D lol Happy Friday!
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#5 LiftedHeadshot
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they changed the traits around and it nerfed my warrior build, so sad
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#6 C_Rule
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Wish I could get in with a pre-order. :(
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#7 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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I wish I could get in without having to pre-order :(
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#8 LiftedHeadshot
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i think they removed the racial elite skills too
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#9 JohnF111
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Oh yeah and it seems they deleted some items, i had an "Unkown Item" or something. Sooo wish I could have these in the final game I bet the value would skyrocket.
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#10 C_Rule
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Oh yeah and it seems they deleted some items, i had an "Unkown Item" or something. Sooo wish I could have these in the final game I bet the value would skyrocket.JohnF111
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I loving it so far; Definitely is more MMO than the first one. I like the random events that are around in some areas and how you can craft your story in a few ways. Probably can't max the graphics but medium settings still looks nice. I should give my charr ranger some more love, but I like playing as my human guardian a lot.

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#12 Priapus101
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[QUOTE="Beetroot502"]

Performance wise I can max it out now and it runs SO MUCH better. Before, I would get the same performance no matter what the settings were.

ydnarrewop

Yep I agree. The performance is much much better. However, it's still not refined. I'm running max settings and getting 40-60fps. IMO it shouldn't drop below 50 fps lol. Maybe I'm dreaming :D lol Happy Friday!

"We are currently optimizingGuild Wars 2, making ongoing improvements to the game?s frame rate. Presently, the game is CPU-bound on most high-end systems, so lowering graphics settings or upgrading your video card may not have a large impact on performance."


Source:

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/news/Known-Issues/page/1#post176506

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#13 Elann2008
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I have played in two beta's so far but I think I'm going to skip this one. I want to be completely surprised when I have the game.
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#14 nutcrackr
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Runs a lot better, I might be able to play some of the game and comment on it now :P
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#15 HyperWarlock
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It's good just the fact that there is no monthly fees is good enough reason to buy it. Even if I don't play it for a year I will not be wasting any money as it will always be there. I can also still have a subscription MMO at the same time so it's all good :)

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#16 Gladestone1
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First time ill be enjoying it...Not sure what class ill want to play though..Enchanter is my first choice, shamon maybe next, or dps hunter...Id really like to do dps at one time in my life..Im done with healing..So many players complain about healing that ive given up..Last game put a sour taste to it..Shame really love healing..Id like to do some dmg once though for a game like guild wars...

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#17 Prexxus
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One thing I don't like at the momment is the command/squad functions. Sucks not being able to invite people yourself and they need to add some sort of markers to show who is in your squad.

Also defaulting squad chat to be on would be nice for all the people who do not know it is not.

Oh well, it's a new system and I'm sure they will work on it.

Loving BWE2!

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#18 BSC14
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It could end up being a great game but at the moment it needs a lot of work.

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#19 QQabitmoar
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You beta guys, tell me everything there is to know about this game's PvP. How does the WvWvW work? What are the options outside of that? I know there is no PKing, but how instanced is the PvE? Is it possible to kill other players outside of duels and WvWvW?

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#20 Maroxad
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You beta guys, tell me everything there is to know about this game's PvP. How does the WvWvW work? What are the options outside of that? I know there is no PKing, but how instanced is the PvE? Is it possible to kill other players outside of duels and WvWvW?

QQabitmoar

There are 2 kinds of PvP in the beta soo far.

World vs World mass PvP. With Fortresses, siege vehicles control over fortresses.
Structured PvP: Instanced, hotjoinable games. Conquest mode only.

I recall hearing that Duels will be added in later. And structured PvP will be expanded upon later on, to allow for things such as private matches, modifiers, ect.

As for WvWvW

  • You Will be bumped up to level 80, BUT you will use whatever gear you use for PvE and you will have the same skills unlocked. High level characters are at an advantage over lower leveled characters, but not to SWTOR's extent.
  • Since a lot of new servers were added, imbalance is heavy atm due to population imbalances.
  • You can level up in WvW
  • There are resource nodes and monsters in the WvW area. I got jumped once while mining.
  • WvW heavily favors AoE atm, a common issue with mass PvP
  • Holding fortresses gives you points and resoruces.

How instanced is the PvE? Not much, instancing occurs during your home instance (which is useless btw), storyline events (easily ignorable once you hit level 2) and dungeons. As for instanced dungeons, they are there, but the game isn't centered around them like in WoW. The game is gonna launch with 8 dungeons and what happens in the dungeon is supposedly affected by dynamic events in the outside world.

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#21 ydnarrewop
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I still haven't done WvW. I've been addicted to PvE :D. You can't kill other players in PvE. As for the instances...they're just pre scripted events that cycle along a time line :)
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#22 BSC14
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I just don't really want to play the game in the condition that it's in at the moment. It really does not look that good and still runs at about 20-30 fps for me.

That said I did enjoy it more this time than the last, it just needs a lot of polish and clean up at the moment.

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#23 trastamad03
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Hate to say it, but at the moment, GW2 is very boring. NONE of the classes have attracted me. NONE. How many grueling boring levels do I have to level a character till it starts getting interesting? I'm still keeping my copy, I won't ask for a refund, maybe later on i'll find a class that i'll be interested in. I think it sucks that can't get into the game cause I loved GW1 and I'm liking this game too it's just... classes are so boring.
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#24 QQabitmoar
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[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

You beta guys, tell me everything there is to know about this game's PvP. How does the WvWvW work? What are the options outside of that? I know there is no PKing, but how instanced is the PvE? Is it possible to kill other players outside of duels and WvWvW?

Maroxad

There are 2 kinds of PvP in the beta soo far.

World vs World mass PvP. With Fortresses, siege vehicles control over fortresses.
Structured PvP: Instanced, hotjoinable games. Conquest mode only.

I recall hearing that Duels will be added in later. And structured PvP will be expanded upon later on, to allow for things such as private matches, modifiers, ect.

As for WvWvW

  • You Will be bumped up to level 80, BUT you will use whatever gear you use for PvE and you will have the same skills unlocked. High level characters are at an advantage over lower leveled characters, but not to SWTOR's extent.
  • Since a lot of new servers were added, imbalance is heavy atm due to population imbalances.
  • You can level up in WvW
  • There are resource nodes and monsters in the WvW area. I got jumped once while mining.
  • WvW heavily favors AoE atm, a common issue with mass PvP
  • Holding fortresses gives you points and resoruces.

How instanced is the PvE? Not much, instancing occurs during your home instance (which is useless btw), storyline events (easily ignorable once you hit level 2) and dungeons. As for instanced dungeons, they are there, but the game isn't centered around them like in WoW. The game is gonna launch with 8 dungeons and what happens in the dungeon is supposedly affected by dynamic events in the outside world.

Thank you. Doesn't sound like my cup of tea from the looks of it. After being dissapointed by Tera, I'm still looking for an MMO to spend my time till Archeage...playing L2 in private servers can only go for so long...

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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Oh yeah and it seems they deleted some items, i had an "Unkown Item" or something. Sooo wish I could have these in the final game I bet the value would skyrocket.C_Rule
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I know which is why i said "i wish".
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i've been noticing some questing glitches more often now (more specifically, invincible enemies and glitched spawns). didn't see any difference in performance. but the lag issue is mostly solved, i can play the game smoothly now.
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i've been noticing some questing glitches more often now (more specifically, invincible enemies and glitched spawns).BrunoBRS

Ha ha yeah I noticed that once:

8496BA0FD7018E206109C3E258B7C8C79AECAF05

I also noticed quite a few times in those conversation scenes in the story missions where there no VA for some of the lines.

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#28 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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Going to attract the internet hate machine, but here I go: I can't really say I'm impressed. The targeting system is sometimes bonkers, my ranged shots shoot at unintended targets when kiting, grinding is boring with the group quests and monster kills and PvP is still terrible for me/my class's setup.

I'll play it as I've already bought the game, but I don't have much faith in it.

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#29 vfibsux
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Having a blast, love the game and can't wait for release.

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#30 vfibsux
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[QUOTE="trastamad03"]Hate to say it, but at the moment, GW2 is very boring. NONE of the classes have attracted me. NONE. How many grueling boring levels do I have to level a character till it starts getting interesting? I'm still keeping my copy, I won't ask for a refund, maybe later on i'll find a class that i'll be interested in. I think it sucks that can't get into the game cause I loved GW1 and I'm liking this game too it's just... classes are so boring.

There are tons of combinations of your class depending on what weapons you are carrying, did you try every one?
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[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="trastamad03"]Hate to say it, but at the moment, GW2 is very boring. NONE of the classes have attracted me. NONE. How many grueling boring levels do I have to level a character till it starts getting interesting? I'm still keeping my copy, I won't ask for a refund, maybe later on i'll find a class that i'll be interested in. I think it sucks that can't get into the game cause I loved GW1 and I'm liking this game too it's just... classes are so boring.

There are tons of combinations of your class depending on what weapons you are carrying, did you try every one?

Since I liked the game, I persevered through the boring bit and continued to play with my Engy... Now it's starting to grow on me. I did try and unlocked all the skill for every weapon combo for the Engy and the only one that I like was the rifle.
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#32 lordreaven
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I liked it. However I still don't like he combat much, but the game is fun enough for me to look over it.

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I had some good fun with the fact that I was basically the first person to find the Vanilla Bean Karma Vendor in Gendarran Fields(stumbled upon it about 15 minutes into the BWE). Ran a solid monopoly on Vanilla Beans at the Trading Post for a good 20 hours. 1 Silver per Vanilla Bean. Cash money coming back to me(I made 10 Gold selling Vanilla Beans).

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]i've been noticing some questing glitches more often now (more specifically, invincible enemies and glitched spawns).Wanderer5

Ha ha yeah I noticed that once:

8496BA0FD7018E206109C3E258B7C8C79AECAF05

I also noticed quite a few times in those conversation scenes in the story missions where there no VA for some of the lines.

that's EXACTLY what i'm talking about. i even took a screenshot of it, but was too lazy to do something about it :P
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#35 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="trastamad03"]Hate to say it, but at the moment, GW2 is very boring. NONE of the classes have attracted me. NONE. How many grueling boring levels do I have to level a character till it starts getting interesting? I'm still keeping my copy, I won't ask for a refund, maybe later on i'll find a class that i'll be interested in. I think it sucks that can't get into the game cause I loved GW1 and I'm liking this game too it's just... classes are so boring.

I feel exactly the same way. SADLY... I loved GW1... so many awesome moments.. great fun. I just can't grasp my hands around GW2 at the moment. Nothing strikes me as spectacular. I'm still keeping my pre-order just because I love the goodies that come with it. I might even end up giving away my code.
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#36 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="trastamad03"]Hate to say it, but at the moment, GW2 is very boring. NONE of the classes have attracted me. NONE. How many grueling boring levels do I have to level a character till it starts getting interesting? I'm still keeping my copy, I won't ask for a refund, maybe later on i'll find a class that i'll be interested in. I think it sucks that can't get into the game cause I loved GW1 and I'm liking this game too it's just... classes are so boring.Elann2008
I feel exactly the same way. SADLY... I loved GW1... so many awesome moments.. great fun. I just can't grasp my hands around GW2 at the moment. Nothing strikes me as spectacular. I'm still keeping my pre-order just because I love the goodies that come with it. I might even end up giving away my code.

I have to say that I agree to an extent.

Guild Wars 2 just doesnt have me as hooked as the original. I suppose the reason for this is because Guild Wars 1 had much stronger skill design and pacing as well as allowing for more customizability with each skill being changeable.

That said, I am still having a blast, but I do feel that Guild Wars 1 was the better game.

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#37 BSC14
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Well the has been hyped beyond....I don't know what. Still it's is beta so by the time it's done you might feel better about it.

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#38 vfibsux
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Well the has been hyped beyond....I don't know what. Still it's is beta so by the time it's done you might feel better about it.

BSC14

Aren't you the one who made this poll which easily won out with "Really Good" or better votes? Yes....you are.

I know you want GW2 to fail because you brought it up in every SWTOR criticism thread (how is that game working out for you btw?) The majority of people are still extremely excited about GW2, including myself. I love the beta and this is the most fun I have had in an MMO since I can remember. I thoroughly enjoy the questing system, something I typically do as a chore to get to pvp. Perhaps I enjoy it because it is not required to pvp, I don't know. Either way the game is awesome despite the beta issues (hello, it is beta) and I expect it to be a huge hit despite the haters. Either

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[QUOTE="BSC14"]

Well the has been hyped beyond....I don't know what. Still it's is beta so by the time it's done you might feel better about it.

vfibsux

Aren't you the one who made this poll which easily won out with "Really Good" or better votes? Yes....you are.

I know you want GW2 to fail because you brought it up in every SWTOR criticism thread (how is that game working out for you btw?) The majority of people are still extremely excited about GW2, including myself. I love the beta and this is the most fun I have had in an MMO since I can remember. I thoroughly enjoy the questing system, something I typically do as a chore to get to pvp. Perhaps I enjoy it because it is not required to pvp, I don't know. Either way the game is awesome despite the beta issues (hello, it is beta) and I expect it to be a huge hit despite the haters. Either

Look at what I said in that poll.

"But based off of what I did get to play I would have to go with Really good."

^ that is how I voted in my poll.

In this topic I said "Still it's is beta so by the time it's done you might feel better about it".

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#40 BSC14
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[QUOTE="BSC14"]

Well the has been hyped beyond....I don't know what. Still it's is beta so by the time it's done you might feel better about it.

vfibsux

Aren't you the one who made this poll which easily won out with "Really Good" or better votes? Yes....you are.

I know you want GW2 to fail because you brought it up in every SWTOR criticism thread (how is that game working out for you btw?) The majority of people are still extremely excited about GW2, including myself. I love the beta and this is the most fun I have had in an MMO since I can remember. I thoroughly enjoy the questing system, something I typically do as a chore to get to pvp. Perhaps I enjoy it because it is not required to pvp, I don't know. Either way the game is awesome despite the beta issues (hello, it is beta) and I expect it to be a huge hit despite the haters. Either

Something crazy is happening w/ my last reply so let me finish here.

Just because I'm not calling it the WoW killer does nto mean I want it to fail. I bought it and love MMOs so yeah....I do not think it will fail and I don't want it to.

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#41 vfibsux
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Fair enough. Just whenever anyone would criticize SWTOR you would bring up how GW2 is overhyped, you went there in this thread as well. Always appeared negative about it to me.

In my opinion there is no MMO king right now, WoW is not the game to beat anymore because its recipe is old and dry, no one cares anymore. As far as that style of MMO goes WoW will always be king, but that style of MMO is gone. No one wants more of the same. Guild Wars 2 is a refreshing blast to the MMO market imo. I am enjoying every aspect thus far. Been doing alot of WvW pvp this weekend and having a blast despite not know wtf is going on.

So in my opinion, and for myself, the hype has been well placed.

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#42 The_Capitalist
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This is going on? Aww, crap. I've missed most of it...

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#43 Wanderer5
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that's EXACTLY what i'm talking about. i even took a screenshot of it, but was too lazy to do something about it :PBrunoBRS

Just encounter it again in that same event. Man that needs to be fix lol.:P

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#44 trastamad03
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So while playing my engie a bit more, I ended up in the Swamp area. Luckily for me the the Shadow Behemoth spawned... At first I didn't understand why my camera zoomed out on it's own, not to mention at a distant that I couldn't achieve manually... Then saw people running towards something moving in the distance... Curious, I decided to follow the other players and saw the scale of the beast... That thing was HUGE! It was also fun to fight against him too :D Seeing as how Thief wasn't impressing me, switching to Engineer for main when they game releases. Overcharge Shot animation never gets old! As for an alt, it'll most probably be Warrior.
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#45 BSC14
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Fair enough. Just whenever anyone would criticize SWTOR you would bring up how GW2 is overhyped, you went there in this thread as well. Always appeared negative about it to me.

In my opinion there is no MMO king right now, WoW is not the game to beat anymore because its recipe is old and dry, no one cares anymore. As far as that style of MMO goes WoW will always be king, but that style of MMO is gone. No one wants more of the same. Guild Wars 2 is a refreshing blast to the MMO market imo. I am enjoying every aspect thus far. Been doing alot of WvW pvp this weekend and having a blast despite not know wtf is going on.

So in my opinion, and for myself, the hype has been well placed.

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That is because I get annoyed with people on this board sometimes and I felt like SWTOR was getting unfairly bashed into the ground. Yet at the same time people are acting as if GW2 has already raised the bar for MMOs when it has not. The fact is, the graphics leave a lot to be desired, it's still full of bugs, it still runs pretty poorly but better and no one has played any kind of endgame content. Now TOR has it's own issues and I know that but people just jump on whatever hate wagon and ride it like sheep. TOR is not nearly as bad as a lot of people act so yeah...that's all.

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#46 Kh1ndjal
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i absolutely loved this beta. last time i tried warrior, guardian, and a bit of mesmer on a machine that was running the game at around 15-20 fps. this weekend i maxed the game out and was playing with an elementalist and loved it. i didn't manage to play much but i did get into the crafting. i played as much as i could right up until the servers shut me out which was about 4 hours. i was pleasently surprised to learn that some choices you make in your personal story during the story itself lets you play certain missions differently. i haven't even scratched the surface of the game and i'm loving what i'm seeing so far. i tried going into WvW but i had no idea what was going on and the tutorials didnt help much. being on limited time, i didn't bother to figure anything out. i have honestly not been this excited for a game for a long time. i cannot wait to play GW2 again.
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#47 Prexxus
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GW2FU BWE2 video, enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQoZ7KriIx8

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#48 illmatic87
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Mostly did sPVP. Its great, despite the change to those random reward chests. At least it's cosmetic stuff, but still... Will wait to hear how the mystic forge comes into play. I sure hope that there isnt a microtransaction step in order to use it.

Some things like kicking, cooldowns for drop-bears needs to be implemented, the hud for cap points need feedback and the usual balance tweaks.

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As far as PVE, things like respwarn rates, mob density and XP distribution need some tuning. I wish more DEs could be more player centric though, as in you pick up a bundle and dynamically start the quest, with others coming to your aid naturally.

I actually liked the tiered skills system, I wouldnt have found use for signets and mantras otherwise, the problem is though is that it makes the later traits more important more than others, when I think each utility skill should have equal value and importance.

Not sure how I feel about the new trait system, I didnt really know how the old one worked. It needs templates for PVP.

The new chat system feels great and polished, same goes with the keybinding system. Party system needs work, still.

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#49 illmatic87
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[QUOTE="trastamad03"]So while playing my engie a bit more, I ended up in the Swamp area. Luckily for me the the Shadow Behemoth spawned... At first I didn't understand why my camera zoomed out on it's own, not to mention at a distant that I couldn't achieve manually... Then saw people running towards something moving in the distance... Curious, I decided to follow the other players and saw the scale of the beast... That thing was HUGE! It was also fun to fight against him too :D Seeing as how Thief wasn't impressing me, switching to Engineer for main when they game releases. Overcharge Shot animation never gets old! As for an alt, it'll most probably be Warrior.

One thing I never really saw: Engineers in sPVP. tis' ashame as I did encounter a good one, it pretty much tore us apart with map control and quelling ninja cap attempts.
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#50 trastamad03
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[QUOTE="illmatic87"][QUOTE="trastamad03"]So while playing my engie a bit more, I ended up in the Swamp area. Luckily for me the the Shadow Behemoth spawned... At first I didn't understand why my camera zoomed out on it's own, not to mention at a distant that I couldn't achieve manually... Then saw people running towards something moving in the distance... Curious, I decided to follow the other players and saw the scale of the beast... That thing was HUGE! It was also fun to fight against him too :D Seeing as how Thief wasn't impressing me, switching to Engineer for main when they game releases. Overcharge Shot animation never gets old! As for an alt, it'll most probably be Warrior.

One thing I never really saw: Engineers in sPVP. tis' ashame as I did encounter a good one, it pretty much tore us apart with map control and quelling ninja cap attempts.

Hopefully I'll be able to as well :P but I was never into PvP in MMOs... Might change when GW2 comes out though.