hd 7950 3gb 1st review! amd burys fermi in a coffin made of sand

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]Ionus is blackIantheone

Reverse oreo?

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="ionusX"] nah im white

Bikouchu35

Reverse oreo?

Has Nabisco sold those?Elann2008

Yes they have and still do.

Anyways to prevent derailing from the thread. Um, I feel the 7950 is an odd model pricing so closely to the gtx 580 and 7970, I was hoping for a sub $400 kind of model with gtx 580 performance.

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I'll stick to my 570 *hugs it*

Elann2008

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

*ahem* Someone's bias towards AMD is showing too much in the title...*ahem*.

Anyway, it seems about equal in performance to the 580, while being priced the same and being cooler and burning less. That's good news, though I wish it was priced even more aggresively, maybe 50$ less than the 580. I can see it dropping to about 350 when Kepler comes around though.

Still, I had hoped it beat the 580, even by a small margin. I really wanted AMD to crush Nvidia, so I can get a second 580 cheap.

All that said, should we really be comparing a 40nm card based on 2 year old technology with a brand new 28nm chip?

And if Nvidias claims are true about Kepler's mid range outperforming the 7970 for 299$...things could get really interesting.

GummiRaccoon

As long as they are competitors, yes.

fun fact you can only compare results from competitors THAT ACTUALLY COMPETED so unless you have a gk104 review i can see RIGHT NOW. your the delusional one

id also like to point out that the gk104 is the sister flag meaning its the gtx 670 if you will. meaning that a tdp of 225 is actually WORSE than before by a small margin (tdp of a 570 was 219 or so)

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

*ahem* Someone's bias towards AMD is showing too much in the title...*ahem*.

Anyway, it seems about equal in performance to the 580, while being priced the same and being cooler and burning less. That's good news, though I wish it was priced even more aggresively, maybe 50$ less than the 580. I can see it dropping to about 350 when Kepler comes around though.

Still, I had hoped it beat the 580, even by a small margin. I really wanted AMD to crush Nvidia, so I can get a second 580 cheap.

All that said, should we really be comparing a 40nm card based on 2 year old technology with a brand new 28nm chip?

And if Nvidias claims are true about Kepler's mid range outperforming the 7970 for 299$...things could get really interesting.

ionusX

As long as they are competitors, yes.

fun fact you can only compare results from competitors THAT ACTUALLY COMPETED so unless you have a gk104 review i can see RIGHT NOW. your the delusional one

id also like to point out that the gk104 is the sister flag meaning its the gtx 670 if you will. meaning that a tdp of 225 is actually WORSE than before by a small margin (tdp of a 570 was 219 or so)

I mean competitors in terms of pricing, which they are, as the 580 and 7950 are occupying the same price range. So it is valid to compare them, regardless of the fact that the 580 is old. Right now someone buying a 580 would be crazy as the 7950 is that much better.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

*ahem* Someone's bias towards AMD is showing too much in the title...*ahem*.

Anyway, it seems about equal in performance to the 580, while being priced the same and being cooler and burning less. That's good news, though I wish it was priced even more aggresively, maybe 50$ less than the 580. I can see it dropping to about 350 when Kepler comes around though.

Still, I had hoped it beat the 580, even by a small margin. I really wanted AMD to crush Nvidia, so I can get a second 580 cheap.

All that said, should we really be comparing a 40nm card based on 2 year old technology with a brand new 28nm chip?

And if Nvidias claims are true about Kepler's mid range outperforming the 7970 for 299$...things could get really interesting.

ionusX

As long as they are competitors, yes.

fun fact you can only compare results from competitors THAT ACTUALLY COMPETED so unless you have a gk104 review i can see RIGHT NOW. your the delusional one

id also like to point out that the gk104 is the sister flag meaning its the gtx 670 if you will. meaning that a tdp of 225 is actually WORSE than before by a small margin (tdp of a 570 was 219 or so)

Reading comprehension fail. he was agreeing with you.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

*ahem* Someone's bias towards AMD is showing too much in the title...*ahem*.

Anyway, it seems about equal in performance to the 580, while being priced the same and being cooler and burning less. That's good news, though I wish it was priced even more aggresively, maybe 50$ less than the 580. I can see it dropping to about 350 when Kepler comes around though.

Still, I had hoped it beat the 580, even by a small margin. I really wanted AMD to crush Nvidia, so I can get a second 580 cheap.

All that said, should we really be comparing a 40nm card based on 2 year old technology with a brand new 28nm chip?

And if Nvidias claims are true about Kepler's mid range outperforming the 7970 for 299$...things could get really interesting.

ionusX

As long as they are competitors, yes.

fun fact you can only compare results from competitors THAT ACTUALLY COMPETED so unless you have a gk104 review i can see RIGHT NOW. your the delusional one

id also like to point out that the gk104 is the sister flag meaning its the gtx 670 if you will. meaning that a tdp of 225 is actually WORSE than before by a small margin (tdp of a 570 was 219 or so)

Wow, chill, where did I call you delusional? And you need to google what 'mid-range' means I think. The gk104 will be the 660. Replacing the 560ti. Huge TDP for a mid range card, I know, but the 670 is expected to be a cut down version of the 680, as it's usually done. We can only speculate, but rumors want the gk104 to carry 768 CUDA cores. Now, Nvidia has a new architecture, but let's use current architecture and, remembering that a 580 has 512, speculate a performance increase based on that. About 30-40% sounds right. Matching the 7970.

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

As long as they are competitors, yes.

QQabitmoar

fun fact you can only compare results from competitors THAT ACTUALLY COMPETED so unless you have a gk104 review i can see RIGHT NOW. your the delusional one

id also like to point out that the gk104 is the sister flag meaning its the gtx 670 if you will. meaning that a tdp of 225 is actually WORSE than before by a small margin (tdp of a 570 was 219 or so)

Wow, chill, where did I call you delusional? And you need to google what 'mid-range' means I think. The gk104 will be the 660. Replacing the 560ti. Huge TDP for a mid range card, I know, but the 670 is expected to be a cut down version of the 680, as it's usually done. We can only speculate, but rumors want the gk104 to carry 768 CUDA cores. Now, Nvidia has a new architecture, but let's use current architecture and, remembering that a 580 has 512, speculate a performance increase based on that. About 30-40% sounds right. Matching the 7970.

im afraid all the "speculation" youve listed came from a hype train that was paid by nvidia to be full of lies off chiphell. so actually no, your as wrong as can be right now

660 =/= 7970 at this time 660 = ????

*ahem* Someone's bias towards AMD is showing too much in the title...*ahem*.

Anyway, it seems about equal in performance to the 580, while being priced the same and being cooler and burning less. That's good news, though I wish it was priced even more aggresively, maybe 50$ less than the 580. I can see it dropping to about 350 when Kepler comes around though.

Still, I had hoped it beat the 580, even by a small margin. I really wanted AMD to crush Nvidia, so I can get a second 580 cheap.

All that said, should we really be comparing a 40nm card based on 2 year old technology with a brand new 28nm chip?

And if Nvidias claims are true about Kepler's mid range outperforming the 7970 for 299$...things could get really interesting.

QQabitmoar

AMD Radeon HD 8000 2nd gen GCN is said to be another 28 nm TSMC fab'ed GPU design

From semiaccurate.com, AMD's far future prototype GPU in MCM format

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

*ahem* Someone's bias towards AMD is showing too much in the title...*ahem*.

Anyway, it seems about equal in performance to the 580, while being priced the same and being cooler and burning less. That's good news, though I wish it was priced even more aggresively, maybe 50$ less than the 580. I can see it dropping to about 350 when Kepler comes around though.

Still, I had hoped it beat the 580, even by a small margin. I really wanted AMD to crush Nvidia, so I can get a second 580 cheap.

All that said, should we really be comparing a 40nm card based on 2 year old technology with a brand new 28nm chip?

And if Nvidias claims are true about Kepler's mid range outperforming the 7970 for 299$...things could get really interesting.

ronvalencia

AMD Radeon HD 8000 2nd gen GCN is said to be another 28 nm TSMC fab'ed GPU design

From semiaccurate.com, AMD's far future prototype GPU in MCM format

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

*ahem* Someone's bias towards AMD is showing too much in the title...*ahem*.

Anyway, it seems about equal in performance to the 580, while being priced the same and being cooler and burning less. That's good news, though I wish it was priced even more aggresively, maybe 50$ less than the 580. I can see it dropping to about 350 when Kepler comes around though.

Still, I had hoped it beat the 580, even by a small margin. I really wanted AMD to crush Nvidia, so I can get a second 580 cheap.

All that said, should we really be comparing a 40nm card based on 2 year old technology with a brand new 28nm chip?

And if Nvidias claims are true about Kepler's mid range outperforming the 7970 for 299$...things could get really interesting.

shakmaster13

AMD Radeon HD 8000 2nd gen GCN is said to be another 28 nm TSMC fab'ed GPU design

From semiaccurate.com, AMD's far future prototype GPU in MCM format

I thought AMD gave up on TSMC and moved all out to Global Foundries due to yield issues.

TSMC returns fire over 28-nm process issues

Maria Marced, president of TSMC Europe, repeated what has been said before by herself and other TSMC executives; that defect density reduction is on track for the 28-nm node and ahead of where TSMC was with 40/45-nm process technology at an equivalent stage in its roll out

ionusX is back! Glad to see you bro. :)

And yes I agree the HD 7950 is awesome! Great bang for the buck if you are looking for a high end GPU. If I didn't have a HD 6970 I would be willing to buy this. I was surprised that it beat out the GTX 580 and cost's $50 less.

And keep on bringing those AMD news. :)