HD3850 vs 8600GT

1. I know the HD3850 is allot better but is it worth spending the extra $100?

(Ceapest 8600GT $97 US, Cheapest HD3850 $195 US..in Australia)

2. Also is the a difference in graphics not just performance?

3. And if im going to spend an extra $100 bucks i could afford to get 2 8600GT's and set up SLI....is that a better idea ?

4. Or is there a price cut coming soon or a new budget card i should wait for?

I got the XFX 8600GT XXX for $109. It runs at 620/1600 compared to 540/1400. I play every game on high (except Crysis on medium) with no problems. If you play at 1024x768 - 1280x1024 then the 8600GT is enough. It also comes with Company of Heroes for free. In SLI it will be just as good as an 8800GTS 320MB.

Visual Representation in preformance

8600gt --->

HD3850------------------------>

8800gt-------------------------------------->

Visual Representation in preformance

8600gt --------------->

HD3850------------------------>

8800gt-------------------------------------->

Luminouslight

8600GT SLI @ 540/1400 ------------------------>

8600GT SLI @ 620/1600 ------------------------------>

HD3850 256MB @ stock ----------------------------->

The second one is XFX XXX.

These benchies from Anandtech should give you a idea of how well HD 3850 beats 8600's:

This was done with release drivers for the HD 3850 and the 8600GT is very slightly weaker than the GTS,so the difference in eprformance should be slightly bigger,so if you can afford it without sacirficing a arm and leg,definitely get the HD 3850 :)

1. I know the HD3850 is allot better but is it worth spending the extra $100?

(Ceapest 8600GT $97 US, Cheapest HD3850 $195 US..in Australia)

2. Also is the a difference in graphics not just performance?

3. And if im going to spend an extra $100 bucks i could afford to get 2 8600GT's and set up SLI....is that a better idea ?

4. Or is there a price cut coming soon or a new budget card i should wait for?

cyprusxx

3850 would not only perform better but it would look better than the 8600. For a while now ATi cards have displayed a better "picture quality" than nVidia cards.

[QUOTE="cyprusxx"]

1. I know the HD3850 is allot better but is it worth spending the extra $100?

(Ceapest 8600GT $97 US, Cheapest HD3850 $195 US..in Australia)

2. Also is the a difference in graphics not just performance?

3. And if im going to spend an extra $100 bucks i could afford to get 2 8600GT's and set up SLI....is that a better idea ?

4. Or is there a price cut coming soon or a new budget card i should wait for?

tequilasunriser

3850 would not only perform better but it would look better than the 8600. For a while now ATi cards have displayed a better "picture quality" than nVidia cards.

3850 would not only perform better but it would look better than the 8600. For a while now ATi cards have displayed a better "picture quality" than nVidia cards.

tequilasunriser

That's a bunch of BS. The image quality difference is EXTREMELY unoticable, and you could never tell the difference while the image was moving in a game.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]

3850 would not only perform better but it would look better than the 8600. For a while now ATi cards have displayed a better "picture quality" than nVidia cards.

Fignewton50

That's a bunch of BS. The image quality difference is EXTREMELY unoticable, and you could never tell the difference while the image was moving in a game.

Its still there and it is noticeable especially if you are motionless and admiring a scene, say a scene of the beach in Crysis. I didn't say it to knock nVidia or anything, hell nVidia has the performance crown, but ATi has the image quality crown.

[QUOTE="Fignewton50"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]

3850 would not only perform better but it would look better than the 8600. For a while now ATi cards have displayed a better "picture quality" than nVidia cards.

tequilasunriser

That's a bunch of BS. The image quality difference is EXTREMELY unoticable, and you could never tell the difference while the image was moving in a game.

Its still there and it is noticeable especially if you are motionless and admiring a scene, say a scene of the beach in Crysis. I didn't say it to knock nVidia or anything, hell nVidia has the performance crown, but ATi has the image quality crown.

There was just a thread on this.

Check this out:

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AMD_Radeon_HD3850_and_HD3870_-_AMD%27s_salvation%3F/5392-14.html

Can you honestly tell me you'd notice a difference in those two images when "standing there admiring a scene of the beach in Crysis"?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129102

That's the absolute best ya can do here ;)

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="Fignewton50"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]

3850 would not only perform better but it would look better than the 8600. For a while now ATi cards have displayed a better "picture quality" than nVidia cards.

Fignewton50

That's a bunch of BS. The image quality difference is EXTREMELY unoticable, and you could never tell the difference while the image was moving in a game.

Its still there and it is noticeable especially if you are motionless and admiring a scene, say a scene of the beach in Crysis. I didn't say it to knock nVidia or anything, hell nVidia has the performance crown, but ATi has the image quality crown.

There was just a thread on this.

Check this out:

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AMD_Radeon_HD3850_and_HD3870_-_AMD%27s_salvation%3F/5392-14.html

Can you honestly tell me you'd notice a difference in those two images when "standing there admiring a scene of the beach in Crysis"?

Well its not going to be a night and day difference. Actually the link you provided demonstrates and confirms what I was saying. The colors look less washed on ATi and the shadows look slightly better.

Now is it enough of a difference to to make me choose an ATi card over a similarly performing nVidia card say if the price was $25 more? No, I'd take the nVidia card for $25 less as long as it performed the same as the ATi card.

However, if both cards are the same price and perform the same then I'm going with ATi for the better picture quality. I mean its common sense.

Well its not going to be a night and day difference. Actually the link you provided demonstrates and confirms what I was saying. The colors look less washed on ATi and the shadows look slightly better.

Now is it enough of a difference to to make me choose an ATi card over a similarly performing nVidia card say if the price was $25 more? No, I'd take the nVidia card for $25 less as long as it performed the same as the ATi card.

However, if both cards are the same price and perform the same then I'm going with ATi for the better picture quality. I mean its common sense.

tequilasunriser

Fair enough. Although I don't think you'll really ever have an ATi and nVidia card performing the exact same at the same price point. Even in cards priced the same, there is almost always a performance advantage (HD3870 vs 8800 GT).

Those image discrepancies were very minor even on extremely blown up images. It is so minimal, I think you'd be much better off not worrying about the image quality and instead focusing on best performance for your money.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]

Well its not going to be a night and day difference. Actually the link you provided demonstrates and confirms what I was saying. The colors look less washed on ATi and the shadows look slightly better.

Now is it enough of a difference to to make me choose an ATi card over a similarly performing nVidia card say if the price was $25 more? No, I'd take the nVidia card for $25 less as long as it performed the same as the ATi card.

However, if both cards are the same price and perform the same then I'm going with ATi for the better picture quality. I mean its common sense.

Fignewton50

Fair enough. Although I don't think you'll really ever have an ATi and nVidia card performing the exact same at the same price point. Even in cards priced the same, there is almost always a performance advantage (HD3870 vs 8800 GT).

Those image discrepancies were very minor even on extremely blown up images. It is so minimal, I think you'd be much better off not worrying about the image quality and instead focusing on best performance for your money.

Of course performance will ALWAYS be issue #1. Becasue who wants to play a slide show? If you can get a card that not only performs well but also has superior image quality then go for it. In the OP's case that would be the 3850.

The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.mastershake575

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.nVidiaGaMer

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

EDIT- every benchmark ive been strolling through shows the 3850 getting for the most part double the performance of a single 8600gt doesn't look like sli can compete with this one since your not gettings double the performance its most like 30-60%

I got the XFX 8600GT XXX for $109. It runs at 620/1600 compared to 540/1400. I play every game on high (except Crysis on medium) with no problems. If you play at 1024x768 - 1280x1024 then the 8600GT is enough. It also comes with Company of Heroes for free. In SLI it will be just as good as an 8800GTS 320MB.

nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.nVidiaGaMer

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

Its also funny that you don't have a source to back your claim up.

Even if it is true I'm willing to bet Oblivion (and any other game running on it's engine for that matter) is the one and only game that sees sli 8600 out performing the 3850 just becasue Oblivion is a picky brat of a game to benchmark with.

I dare you to choose ANY other game than Oblivion where we would see sli 8600 beating 3850 and I want to see proof of it (from a non-biased source).

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.mastershake575

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

EDIT- every benchmark ive been strolling through shows the 3850 getting for the most part double the performance of a single 8600gt doesn't look like sli can compete with this one since your not gettings double the performance its most like 30-60%

LOL I was going to say the SAME DAMN THING! but chose the latter in the end.

EDIT: I was going to use the Anand benches though.

Don't listen to anyone saying that the 8600 series is better.

I have owned XFX 8600GT XXX 256MB GDDR3, and actually upgraded to a GeCube HD3850 256MB. No comparison.

With a AMD Athlon X2 4600+, 2GB 800 RAM, 80GB HDD, and the 8600 I was getting about 5800 in 3Dmark06. With the same set up only with my new HD3850, I am getting about 9000. The memory might not be different, but the hardware of the cards sure are.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.tequilasunriser

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

Its also funny that you don't have a source to back your claim up.

Even if it is true I'm willing to bet Oblivion (and any other game running on it's engine for that matter) is the one and only game that sees sli 8600 out performing the 3850 just becasue Oblivion is a picky brat of a game to benchmark with.

I dare you to choose ANY other game than Oblivion where we would see sli 8600 beating 3850 and I want to see proof of it (from a non-biased source).

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.tequilasunriser

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

EDIT- every benchmark ive been strolling through shows the 3850 getting for the most part double the performance of a single 8600gt doesn't look like sli can compete with this one since your not gettings double the performance its most like 30-60%

LOL I was going to say the SAME DAMN THING! but chose the latter in the end.

EDIT: I was going to use the Anand benches though.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.yoyo462001

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

EDIT- every benchmark ive been strolling through shows the 3850 getting for the most part double the performance of a single 8600gt doesn't look like sli can compete with this one since your not gettings double the performance its most like 30-60%

LOL I was going to say the SAME DAMN THING! but chose the latter in the end.

EDIT: I was going to use the Anand benches though.

I'm going to make 2 suggestions about your comment:

First, read the quoted field again.

Second, actually follow my link, it says "Anand," so I'm not sure how you were confused on where it leads...

P.S. After looking at your sig I realize why you are so defensive. :P

The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.nVidiaGaMer

im pretty shocked actually, cos everyone except u say not to SLI the 8600 and just the the much better HD3850

i don't get why you compared the 8600gt in US dollars and the hd3850 in AUS, i take it that you are in australia? (soz if a bit slow)

but if you can get the 3850 for $200 then it is defintely worth it as the 8600gt's are around the $150 +/- mark (depending on manafacturer, RAM size, and clock speeds)

i will be getting the 3850 too hopefully

Strange, in my counrty the HD3850 is €30 cheaper than the 8800GTS, and they both have 256MB DDR3.

My brother got an 8600GT and i own a HD3850, my card knocks the S*it out of his.

My specs are: Core 2 duo E4500 2.2ghz 2GB Ram ECS Mobo HD3850 256mb

His Specs are: AMD x2 64 6000+ 3ghz 2GB Ram and ASUS Mobo. 8600GT

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.tequilasunriser

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

EDIT- every benchmark ive been strolling through shows the 3850 getting for the most part double the performance of a single 8600gt doesn't look like sli can compete with this one since your not gettings double the performance its most like 30-60%

LOL I was going to say the SAME DAMN THING! but chose the latter in the end.

EDIT: I was going to use the Anand benches though.

I'm going to make 2 suggestions about your comment:

First, read the quoted field again.

Second, actually follow my link, it says "Anand," so I'm not sure how you were confused on where it leads...

P.S. After looking at your sig I realize why you are so defensive. :P

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.nVidiaGaMer

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

I think it's funny how you're trying to be a voice of unbiased opinion with a screen name like nVidiaGaMer.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.yoyo462001

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

EDIT- every benchmark ive been strolling through shows the 3850 getting for the most part double the performance of a single 8600gt doesn't look like sli can compete with this one since your not gettings double the performance its most like 30-60%

LOL I was going to say the SAME DAMN THING! but chose the latter in the end.

EDIT: I was going to use the Anand benches though.

I'm going to make 2 suggestions about your comment:

First, read the quoted field again.

Second, actually follow my link, it says "Anand," so I'm not sure how you were confused on where it leads...

P.S. After looking at your sig I realize why you are so defensive. :P

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6183967/p-4.html

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.Thinker_145

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

EDIT- every benchmark ive been strolling through shows the 3850 getting for the most part double the performance of a single 8600gt doesn't look like sli can compete with this one since your not gettings double the performance its most like 30-60%

LOL I was going to say the SAME DAMN THING! but chose the latter in the end.

EDIT: I was going to use the Anand benches though.

I'm going to make 2 suggestions about your comment:

First, read the quoted field again.

Second, actually follow my link, it says "Anand," so I'm not sure how you were confused on where it leads...

P.S. After looking at your sig I realize why you are so defensive. :P

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6183967/p-4.html

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.yoyo462001

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

EDIT- every benchmark ive been strolling through shows the 3850 getting for the most part double the performance of a single 8600gt doesn't look like sli can compete with this one since your not gettings double the performance its most like 30-60%

LOL I was going to say the SAME DAMN THING! but chose the latter in the end.

EDIT: I was going to use the Anand benches though.

I'm going to make 2 suggestions about your comment:

First, read the quoted field again.

Second, actually follow my link, it says "Anand," so I'm not sure how you were confused on where it leads...

P.S. After looking at your sig I realize why you are so defensive. :P

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6183967/p-4.html

In UT3 the 256MB 3850 is again 75% faster.All high end cards with more than 256MB give 2.5x the performance of the 8600GT as opposed to what you said about the 8800GT not being twice faster.

Than we see in bioshock that the 640GTS is more than twice faster than an 8600GTS.

I guess it's enough proof?

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The HD3850 gets around 16,000-17,000 in 3DMark05. I get 10,500 with one XFX XXX 8600GT. When I SLI them I will be getting over 20,000. In 3DMark06 I get 5760. The HD3850 gets around 9000-10000. With SLI 8600GT's I will get around 10,000-11,000. The 8600GT I got was $79 after rebate. I will be getting another one so it actaually costs less after rebates then one HD3850. And XFX has a double lifetime warrenty.Thinker_145

Its kind of funny that a HD3850 gets under 30fps in a 3 year old game like Oblivion on max settings @ 1280x1024. 8600GT in SLI gets 40 fps.

EDIT- every benchmark ive been strolling through shows the 3850 getting for the most part double the performance of a single 8600gt doesn't look like sli can compete with this one since your not gettings double the performance its most like 30-60%

LOL I was going to say the SAME DAMN THING! but chose the latter in the end.

EDIT: I was going to use the Anand benches though.

I'm going to make 2 suggestions about your comment:

First, read the quoted field again.

Second, actually follow my link, it says "Anand," so I'm not sure how you were confused on where it leads...

P.S. After looking at your sig I realize why you are so defensive. :P

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6183967/p-4.html

In UT3 the 256MB 3850 is again 75% faster.All high end cards with more than 256MB give 2.5x the performance of the 8600GT as opposed to what you said about the 8800GT not being twice faster.

Than we see in bioshock that the 640GTS is more than twice faster than an 8600GTS.

I guess it's enough proof?

Exactly. It's pretty obvious that in the majority of games, the 3850 is going to be a good deal faster than the 8600. You only need to take a quick glance at some benchies on some tech sites to work that out!! :P

The hd3850 is obviously better than the 8600gt and 8600gts and may be worth even that big difference in money.

To yoyo, thinker and opethpwn please dont do so long quotes :P

...you guys are straying from the orginal question. The question was is paying an extra 100 bucks worth the extra performance vesus the less than 100 dollar 8600GT? Newegg.com currently has a 30 dollar rebate for the E-VGA's video cards which include the 8600GT. (just noticed he's in Australia...so I guess that point is mute.)

So, it's like $90 dollars versus $190.

Personally, I think either is a good deal... On one you'll have satisfing performance at an excellent cost, and the other you'll have excellent performance at a reasonable cost. Whichever you pick...you won't feel ripped-off.

sli/crossfire is kinda a mute point too.... First you need a motherboard that supports either format of SLI versus Crossfire (it's most often a choice of one or the other...don't know of any boards that support both) Second... just about all of todays cards are able to run in tandom like that, at double the cost. And Third...performance increase varies from game to game, and the increase will most likely be around 30%, not 100%.

whether you care or not me nothing to me, i will not take your argument seriously when quoted from sources who usually have crappy benchs ( i remember last time they claimed the 2900XT was better than 8800GTX), its kool if you like misinformed benchmarks i just like to knwo what im talking about and liek to quote reliable sources. now thinker if you would read the title you would see that its comparing the hd 3850 and the 8600 so bringing in the 640gts has no relevance in this dicussion. if you looked at some good benchmarks youd see that the 8800GT is 150% quicker in only a very small number of games ( half life2 last time i checked) but like i said this has nothing to do with the arugment so ill leave that out... whilst keeping to the topic your post has absouletly no relevance to the topic youve mentioned that its 75% in one game.. yeah thats nice so are you telling me that the card is 75% is quicker than the 8600GTS? if you have a calculater go and get it and work out some averages over a collection of games then only that way you can justify what your saying.yoyo462001

And i brought in the 640GTS to furthur prove your claim of the 8800GT not being twice faster to be false.They didnt have the 8800GT over there and if the 640GTS is more than twice faster than obviously the GT is as well.

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]whether you care or not me nothing to me, i will not take your argument seriously when quoted from sources who usually have crappy benchs ( i remember last time they claimed the 2900XT was better than 8800GTX), its kool if you like misinformed benchmarks i just like to knwo what im talking about and liek to quote reliable sources. now thinker if you would read the title you would see that its comparing the hd 3850 and the 8600 so bringing in the 640gts has no relevance in this dicussion. if you looked at some good benchmarks youd see that the 8800GT is 150% quicker in only a very small number of games ( half life2 last time i checked) but like i said this has nothing to do with the arugment so ill leave that out... whilst keeping to the topic your post has absouletly no relevance to the topic youve mentioned that its 75% in one game.. yeah thats nice so are you telling me that the card is 75% is quicker than the 8600GTS? if you have a calculater go and get it and work out some averages over a collection of games then only that way you can justify what your saying.Thinker_145

And i brought in the 640GTS to furthur prove your claim of the 8800GT not being twice faster to be false.They didnt have the 8800GT over there and if the 640GTS is more than twice faster than obviously the GT is as well.

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]whether you care or not me nothing to me, i will not take your argument seriously when quoted from sources who usually have crappy benchs ( i remember last time they claimed the 2900XT was better than 8800GTX), its kool if you like misinformed benchmarks i just like to knwo what im talking about and liek to quote reliable sources. now thinker if you would read the title you would see that its comparing the hd 3850 and the 8600 so bringing in the 640gts has no relevance in this dicussion. if you looked at some good benchmarks youd see that the 8800GT is 150% quicker in only a very small number of games ( half life2 last time i checked) but like i said this has nothing to do with the arugment so ill leave that out... whilst keeping to the topic your post has absouletly no relevance to the topic youve mentioned that its 75% in one game.. yeah thats nice so are you telling me that the card is 75% is quicker than the 8600GTS? if you have a calculater go and get it and work out some averages over a collection of games then only that way you can justify what your saying.yoyo462001

And i brought in the 640GTS to furthur prove your claim of the 8800GT not being twice faster to be false.They didnt have the 8800GT over there and if the 640GTS is more than twice faster than obviously the GT is as well.

]This article was done a while back by gamespot and they declare the 2900XT as inferior to the 8800 GTS 640MB so i dont know what you are saying.

Thinker_145

Not this silly argument again...

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]whether you care or not me nothing to me, i will not take your argument seriously when quoted from sources who usually have crappy benchs ( i remember last time they claimed the 2900XT was better than 8800GTX), its kool if you like misinformed benchmarks i just like to knwo what im talking about and liek to quote reliable sources. now thinker if you would read the title you would see that its comparing the hd 3850 and the 8600 so bringing in the 640gts has no relevance in this dicussion. if you looked at some good benchmarks youd see that the 8800GT is 150% quicker in only a very small number of games ( half life2 last time i checked) but like i said this has nothing to do with the arugment so ill leave that out... whilst keeping to the topic your post has absouletly no relevance to the topic youve mentioned that its 75% in one game.. yeah thats nice so are you telling me that the card is 75% is quicker than the 8600GTS? if you have a calculater go and get it and work out some averages over a collection of games then only that way you can justify what your saying.Thinker_145

And i brought in the 640GTS to furthur prove your claim of the 8800GT not being twice faster to be false.They didnt have the 8800GT over there and if the 640GTS is more than twice faster than obviously the GT is as well.

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]whether you care or not me nothing to me, i will not take your argument seriously when quoted from sources who usually have crappy benchs ( i remember last time they claimed the 2900XT was better than 8800GTX), its kool if you like misinformed benchmarks i just like to knwo what im talking about and liek to quote reliable sources. now thinker if you would read the title you would see that its comparing the hd 3850 and the 8600 so bringing in the 640gts has no relevance in this dicussion. if you looked at some good benchmarks youd see that the 8800GT is 150% quicker in only a very small number of games ( half life2 last time i checked) but like i said this has nothing to do with the arugment so ill leave that out... whilst keeping to the topic your post has absouletly no relevance to the topic youve mentioned that its 75% in one game.. yeah thats nice so are you telling me that the card is 75% is quicker than the 8600GTS? if you have a calculater go and get it and work out some averages over a collection of games then only that way you can justify what your saying.yoyo462001

And i brought in the 640GTS to furthur prove your claim of the 8800GT not being twice faster to be false.They didnt have the 8800GT over there and if the 640GTS is more than twice faster than obviously the GT is as well.