How can I change my graphic card, i need help~~

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#1 Keith-L
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Friends, I bought a brand computer which is ACER Aspire X3810 last week. And I'm a gamer for WOW. But the graphic card of this computer is not good, it is Integrated graphics, so I want to add a Independent Graphics. Some hardware information below: CPU: Inter Core 2 Duo E7400 Main board: Acer WG43M (Chipset: Inter P45/P43) Graphic card: Inter G45/G43 Express Chipset Memory: Kingston DDR3 1333H MHz 2GB x 2 I've asked friend today, he told me to add the graphic card ATI 4850 of 4870... But I'm not sure. Because I bought a brand computer, so i had not opened the chassis... So I don't know if I can put the 4850/4870 in the chassis. So I need your help: What kind of graphics card can I change. If someone want to help me, you can reply me or send e-mail to me ( lingxiao8769@hotmail.com)
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#3 Daytona_178
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Can you find out how powerful the power supply unit is?

If its over 450w then i would suggest a ATI 4770 or 4870 depending on budget.

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#4 Keith-L
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sorry, i haven't opened the chassis... Is there some other methods that I can know the power supply unit? If no...I think I must open my chassis....
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#5 chefkw
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If no...I think I must open my chassis....Keith-L

You're going to have to do it sooner or later - how do you expect to upgrade the video card otherwise?

I did a quick search on the x3810 and looks like it is a small form-factor (SFF) system. You are going to have to find a "low-profile" or "low-profile ready" PCI-express video card. Newegg can help you by allowing you to specify low-pro or low-pro ready video cards.

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If u want to put in a 4850/4870 your probably gonna have to get a new PSU, because prebuilt pc's usually don't come with that great of a PSU, i personally would recommend this PSU. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003
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#7 Keith-L
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Okey..you are right...chefkw... Indeed...if I have some super power, I will use it to put the video card into the chassis... Then..I opened the chassis..and I saw the details on the power supply unit. MODEL: DPS-220UB-1 A, REV:05F INPUT: 220-240V ~/ 3.0A 50-60 Hz OUTPUT: CONTIUE POWER 220W +3.3V (Unknown symbol) /13A, +5V (Unknown symbol) /14A, +12V (Unknown symbol) /14A, +5VSB (Unknown symbol) /2.0A, -12V (Unknown symbol) / 0.3A +3.3V &+5V total output not exceed 80W +3.3V &+5V &+12V &-12V &+5VSB total outut not exceed 220W Okey...I don't know what's mean by this information... And to chefkw: I think the "low-pro" means not too wide graphics cards, does it? If you can, could you give me some example for this kind of video card? And then..I'm a student from China and I arrived in London for one week..The Newegg, which you said, I can find it, but I don't know how to use it to help me.
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#8 Keith-L
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[QUOTE="vhtboomer"]If u want to put in a 4850/4870 your probably gonna have to get a new PSU, because prebuilt pc's usually don't come with that great of a PSU, i personally would recommend this PSU. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

Thank you for your suggestion.. After I saw the information on the power supply unit, I think I need to change it... And I've looked your PSU, I think it is too thick... PSU in the computer now, the thickness is just only about 5CM... I'm sorry..
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14amps... is all you're showing for a single 12V rail. An 8600GT is about all I'd venture to try with something that weak.... That is.. .if you even have a slot for a video card, PCI-e or AGP....
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#11 Keith-L
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Okey,,,I think I bought a strange computer...I can not find its picture on acer's website.... But I find a website has a detail for it, it's below... This is the website: http://www.johnlewis.com/230641425/Product.aspx And its dimensions: H26.5 x W10 x D35cm I think this will be good for helping me for you all...
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#12 Keith-L
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Enn...can I submit a picture for the internal composition of the computer on forums? If I can...I want to show it to you and then you will help me easily...
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#13 Daytona_178
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Enn...can I submit a picture for the internal composition of the computer on forums? If I can...I want to show it to you and then you will help me easily...Keith-L
you can upload a picture to your gamespot account then link to it in this topic if you want.
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#14 Keith-L
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Thank you... I'm trying..
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#15 Keith-L
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http://userimage.gamespot.com/images/blog/8/1/23160540878326372301539332663718/blog.jpg I think this link can be looked by you...but it is a little small....
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#16 Keith-L
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Ok..I upload my picutres to an other place..and I link them to here.. http://fmn037.xnimg.cn/fmn037/20091015/0625/p_large_LCfc_63700001ed1a2d13.jpg this one is including a slot, but I don't know if this is a PCI or AGP http://fmn039.xnimg.cn/fmn039/20091015/0625/p_large_J1CJ_71220001e10b2d0c.jpg this one is including the PSU...you can look the size of it...
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#17 Daytona_178
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Well to begin with your going to need a low profile video card because of your case. Secondly you need to look at how many watts your power supply is pumping out, although because iam not expecting it to be much so your options are probably very limited.

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[QUOTE="Keith-L"]Then..I opened the chassis..and I saw the details on the power supply unit. MODEL: DPS-220UB-1 A, REV:05F INPUT: 220-240V ~/ 3.0A 50-60 Hz OUTPUT: CONTIUE POWER 220W +3.3V (Unknown symbol) /13A, +5V (Unknown symbol) /14A, +12V (Unknown symbol) /14A, +5VSB (Unknown symbol) /2.0A, -12V (Unknown symbol) / 0.3A +3.3V &+5V total output not exceed 80W +3.3V &+5V &+12V &-12V &+5VSB total outut not exceed 220W Okey...I don't know what's mean by this information...

well...this is the information of the PUS...
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Ok..I upload my picutres to an other place..and I link them to here.. http://fmn037.xnimg.cn/fmn037/20091015/0625/p_large_LCfc_63700001ed1a2d13.jpg this one is including a slot, but I don't know if this is a PCI or AGP http://fmn039.xnimg.cn/fmn039/20091015/0625/p_large_J1CJ_71220001e10b2d0c.jpg this one is including the PSU...you can look the size of it...Keith-L

judging by the pics u have showed us it looks like u wont be able to fit much in there, low profile cards are pretty spendy u should buy a new case (if u can swap out the parts and put them in) and a new PSU u could fit a 4850/4870 fine

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#20 Keith-L
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Well...it is said....If I do not care about the appearance of the computer...I can change a new PSU and let it outside the chassis, than I can add the 4850 or 4870 for this computer? Another approach is add a low-pro video card and I need not change the PSU?
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#21 vhtboomer
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what i was trying to say if that a 4850/4870 will not fit into your PC case and does it have a PCI-E slot or no?
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#22 willx10121013
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what i was trying to say if that a 4850/4870 will not fit into your PC case and does it have a PCI-E slot or no?vhtboomer

google says he does have a PCI-E slot, but a 220w PSU so thats a definite upgrade....

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#23 Keith-L
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I find a slot on the main board...but I don't know if it's a PCI-E slot or not... I've checked by Everest, but it didn't find the motherboard physical information...so...I am very confused.. And my friend said, this is the motherboard of G45, there will be a PCI-E slot. But I'm not sure if it is true or not..
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#24 vhtboomer
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okay u have a PCI-E slot, thats good but i dont think u can fit a 4850/4870 in that case
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#25 Keith-L
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Oh..no..I'm so poor... because of the PUS?
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Oh..no..I'm so poor... because of the PUS?Keith-L
1. Case is too small 2. Power supply is too weak. Your upgrade wont go as smooth. sorry
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#28 Keith-L
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Okey...I think I know...thanks every one... And then, I think, can I sell the computer which I bought on the Ebay...and then buy the computer accessories on Newegg?