i realize they arent the best but i have a gtx 260 and an athlon x2! money is tight. what do i do!?>!
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i realize they arent the best but i have a gtx 260 and an athlon x2! money is tight. what do i do!?>!
[QUOTE="cabose38"]
[QUOTE="StealthKnife"]hmmm i would... put i might as well play on my ps3 rofl. i guess i have no choice. GTR12
low-medium would still look better than PS3.
Not trying to start a fight, but it also depends what res that low/medium is at.
Consoles are the equivalent of low settings. From a DICE magazine interview "Without going into detail, if you have a PC with equivalent hardware matching the consoles -not CPU per CPU, but matching output, that's your low spec"Hang onto what you have and save up for a quad core. The best llano APU can match an HD3870 so basically you'd be downgrading.
A GTX 260 is much better than an APU, just use that to play it. [QUOTE="GTR12"]Consoles are the equivalent of low settings. From a DICE magazine interview "Without going into detail, if you have a PC with equivalent hardware matching the consoles -not CPU per CPU, but matching output, that's your low spec"Not trying to start a fight, but it also depends what res that low/medium is at.
ferret-gamer
I suppose, but remember its dumbed down for consoles, and if its "low at 720p" or something and comparing that to 1680*960 on PC on low might be a whole different scenario.
Consoles don't run in dx9.also note that the console versions run in dx9, the PC version only supports 10 and 11, so right off the bat at low settings it's already higher than any console can hope to do. The APU should pull a mix of low and medium
wis3boi
[QUOTE="wis3boi"]Consoles don't run in dx9. I thought the 360 version did, PS3 is different though.also note that the console versions run in dx9, the PC version only supports 10 and 11, so right off the bat at low settings it's already higher than any console can hope to do. The APU should pull a mix of low and medium
ferret-gamer
Consoles don't run in dx9. I thought the 360 version did, PS3 is different though. no neither do. The 360's API is based off of dx9, but is very different. Not to mention the developers don't necessarily even need to use the API and can just code directly for hte hardware. You can't compare a consoles capabilities to a PC api like directx.[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]
also note that the console versions run in dx9, the PC version only supports 10 and 11, so right off the bat at low settings it's already higher than any console can hope to do. The APU should pull a mix of low and medium
mitu123
Consoles are the equivalent of low settings. From a DICE magazine interview "Without going into detail, if you have a PC with equivalent hardware matching the consoles -not CPU per CPU, but matching output, that's your low spec"[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]A GTX 260 is much better than an APU, just use that to play it. [QUOTE="GTR12"]
Not trying to start a fight, but it also depends what res that low/medium is at.
GTR12
I suppose, but remember its dumbed down for consoles, and if its "low at 720p" or something and comparing that to 1680*960 on PC on low might be a whole different scenario.
I rather have the 64 player matches on low-medium tbh.[QUOTE="wis3boi"]Consoles don't run in dx9. well yea, but they certainly aren't going to be using any DX10/11 special effectsalso note that the console versions run in dx9, the PC version only supports 10 and 11, so right off the bat at low settings it's already higher than any console can hope to do. The APU should pull a mix of low and medium
ferret-gamer
[QUOTE="cabose38"][QUOTE="StealthKnife"]hmmm i would... put i might as well play on my ps3 rofl. i guess i have no choice. red12355
low-medium would still look better than PS3.
Doubt it.it would. Any resolution higher than 1024X800 and low settings will look better than the ps3
[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]
[QUOTE="red12355"] Doubt it.mitu123
it would. Any resolution higher than 1024X800 and low settings will look better than the ps3
The PS3 version does 1280x704 though, needs 720p at least.meh I doubt it will, most likely it will be sub hd
The PS3 version does 1280x704 though, needs 720p at least.[QUOTE="mitu123"]
[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]
it would. Any resolution higher than 1024X800 and low settings will look better than the ps3
blaznwiipspman1
meh I doubt it will, most likely it will be sub hd
No, console versions have been confirmed at 1280x704. A GTX 260 is gonna look way better than the consoles. Heck and 8800GT is more powerful than consoles by some margin.The PS3 version does 1280x704 though, needs 720p at least.[QUOTE="mitu123"]
[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]
it would. Any resolution higher than 1024X800 and low settings will look better than the ps3
blaznwiipspman1
meh I doubt it will, most likely it will be sub hd
No, it's confirmed. And it's slightly sub HD.[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"][QUOTE="mitu123"] The PS3 version does 1280x704 though, needs 720p at least.
mitu123
meh I doubt it will, most likely it will be sub hd
No, it's confirmed. And it's slightly sub HD.still they sacrifices the image quality to hit that resolution I'm pretty confident the ps3 version will look like the low quality 1024 x 800 for pc.
[QUOTE="GTR12"]I rather have the 64 player matches on low-medium tbh.I suppose, but remember its dumbed down for consoles, and if its "low at 720p" or something and comparing that to 1680*960 on PC on low might be a whole different scenario.
dramaybaz
Yup, thats the best bit, thats why Im gonna get 2 versions, one for PC depending on how the beta goes, and 1 for PS3, so when friends come, its just easy to play.
I rather have the 64 player matches on low-medium tbh.[QUOTE="dramaybaz"][QUOTE="GTR12"]
I suppose, but remember its dumbed down for consoles, and if its "low at 720p" or something and comparing that to 1680*960 on PC on low might be a whole different scenario.
GTR12
Yup, thats the best bit, thats why Im gonna get 2 versions, one for PC depending on how the beta goes, and 1 for PS3, so when friends come, its just easy to play.
I will be doing the same thing. It will give me a good excuse to wipe the dust off my ps3. My brother will be buying the game and I'll make judgement then,
Doubt it.[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="cabose38"]
low-medium would still look better than PS3.
blaznwiipspman1
it would. Any resolution higher than 1024X800 and low settings will look better than the ps3
this.
even if consoles can pull off most of the effects and stuff, the games (except for some 1080p downloadables) just look downright ugly because of the low res. also because of the low res textures they have to use in games.
so i'd definitely be better off with a gtx260 + phenom X4 ? i play at 1600 x 900 and am willing to 720pStealthKnifeAs i said, the GTX260 is more than double the power of a console. You should be able to do high at 1600x900. (Medium/high at worst case). Way better than console.
[QUOTE="wis3boi"]Consoles don't run in dx9. RSX hardware still follows some DX9c limitations e.g. HDR FP + MSAA.also note that the console versions run in dx9, the PC version only supports 10 and 11, so right off the bat at low settings it's already higher than any console can hope to do. The APU should pull a mix of low and medium
ferret-gamer
i realize they arent the best but i have a gtx 260 and an athlon x2! money is tight. what do i do!?>!
StealthKnife
Radeon HD 5770 and BF3 Alpha release results
1. 1280x720p.
2. max details.
3. 40 to 60 FPS.
Your GTX260 should able to play BF3 at reasonably good level.
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AMD plans to release special BF3 drivers.
@CatalystCreator: We'll have a special driver for BF3 next week (along with official Catalyst 11.9 release)
My laptop's Radeon HD 5730M (rename to 6570M) has half the power of desktop 5770 and it should play BF3 reasonably well i.e. beyond consoles.
[QUOTE="StealthKnife"]hmmm i would... put i might as well play on my ps3 rofl. i guess i have no choice. cabose38
low-medium would still look better than PS3.
I can safely say that low-medium will NOT look better than the PS3. On Low especially you will see a lot of pixaliation and jaggies, its not really fun playing on PC unless you have a system that can keep up. I know this when I was staying at a place that had a HD3450 in a PC. - BC2 on ALL LOW, it was terrible. Consoles usually run at a improved medium.[QUOTE="cabose38"][QUOTE="StealthKnife"]hmmm i would... put i might as well play on my ps3 rofl. i guess i have no choice. DeX2010
low-medium would still look better than PS3.
I can safely say that low-medium will NOT look better than the PS3. On Low especially you will see a lot of pixaliation and jaggies, its not really fun playing on PC unless you have a system that can keep up. I know this when I was staying at a place that had a HD3450 in a PC. - BC2 on ALL LOW, it was terrible. Consoles usually run at a improved medium.BC2 PC is not using DX11's compute shaders (CS).
At the same workloads, CS is more efficient than the traditional pixel shaders (PS).
DX11 CS vs DX10.1 GS/VS/PS
Unlike Crysis 2 DX11, BF3 uses DX11 CS for it's deferred rendering. It's an uncharted territory for PC gaming i.e. closer to console style optimisations with modern GPU designs.
Also, AMD's statement also gives us some hints on non-DX10 limited results ie. using custom extensions on DX10.1 Radeon HDs and maybe applicable on Wii U.
PS; Radeon HD DX10.x hardware can run DX11 CS4.x with DX11 middleware. Wii U's RV7x0 GPU includes Fetch-4 hardware feature.
[QUOTE="cabose38"][QUOTE="StealthKnife"]hmmm i would... put i might as well play on my ps3 rofl. i guess i have no choice. DeX2010
low-medium would still look better than PS3.
I can safely say that low-medium will NOT look better than the PS3. On Low especially you will see a lot of pixaliation and jaggies, its not really fun playing on PC unless you have a system that can keep up. I know this when I was staying at a place that had a HD3450 in a PC. - BC2 on ALL LOW, it was terrible. Consoles usually run at a improved medium. BF3 is not BC2. And DICE already said that consoles are equivalent to low settings.Nothing wrong with 260. I don't understand why people make such a fuss over 1080p. Its nice to have, but 720p is still HD and a 260 at 720 can get the highest settings on BC2 (at least, my magical old 260 used to before I upgraded).
BF3 will urn just fine with a 260, but don't expect any fancy Directx 11 or 1080p.
And yeesh, I thought SW was bad enough for the blatant console bashing. I guess its a part of PC elitism then for this to be so acceptable.
[QUOTE="cabose38"][QUOTE="StealthKnife"]hmmm i would... put i might as well play on my ps3 rofl. i guess i have no choice. DeX2010
low-medium would still look better than PS3.
I can safely say that low-medium will NOT look better than the PS3. On Low especially you will see a lot of pixaliation and jaggies, its not really fun playing on PC unless you have a system that can keep up. I know this when I was staying at a place that had a HD3450 in a PC. - BC2 on ALL LOW, it was terrible. Consoles usually run at a improved medium.Dude no offense but you have no clue what you're talking about.
'On Low especially you will see a lot of pixaliation and jaggies'
Pixelation is to do with resolution, not settings.
Jaggies are to do with anti aliasing, again nothing to do with low, medium, high or ultra.
Consoles will run at 1280x720 with no AA. His GTX260 could run that at 60fps no problem, where a console would be stuck at 30. He can also enjoy 32 and 64 players, which the console version doesn't have, as well as mouse and keyboard controls. Not to mention the PC game is 25% cheaper than the console game. As for settings, in pretty much every game mainly low (sometimes a couple of settings at medium) is equivalent to the console game.
Console versions doesn't run in DX9 mode i.e. PS3's BF3's deferred rendering is on done SPEs.also note that the console versions run in dx9, the PC version only supports 10 and 11, so right off the bat at low settings it's already higher than any console can hope to do. The APU should pull a mix of low and medium
wis3boi
[QUOTE="DeX2010"][QUOTE="cabose38"]
low-medium would still look better than PS3.
I can safely say that low-medium will NOT look better than the PS3. On Low especially you will see a lot of pixaliation and jaggies, its not really fun playing on PC unless you have a system that can keep up. I know this when I was staying at a place that had a HD3450 in a PC. - BC2 on ALL LOW, it was terrible. Consoles usually run at a improved medium.Dude no offense but you have no clue what you're talking about.
'On Low especially you will see a lot of pixaliation and jaggies'
Pixelation is to do with resolution, not settings.
Jaggies are to do with anti aliasing, again nothing to do with low, medium, high or ultra.
Consoles will run at 1280x720 with no AA. His GTX260 could run that at 60fps no problem, where a console would be stuck at 30. He can also enjoy 32 and 64 players, which the console version doesn't have, as well as mouse and keyboard controls. Not to mention the PC game is 25% cheaper than the console game. As for settings, in pretty much every game mainly low (sometimes a couple of settings at medium) is equivalent to the console game.
Consoles run BF3 in sub-HD.[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="DeX2010"] I can safely say that low-medium will NOT look better than the PS3. On Low especially you will see a lot of pixaliation and jaggies, its not really fun playing on PC unless you have a system that can keep up. I know this when I was staying at a place that had a HD3450 in a PC. - BC2 on ALL LOW, it was terrible. Consoles usually run at a improved medium.ronvalencia
Dude no offense but you have no clue what you're talking about.
'On Low especially you will see a lot of pixaliation and jaggies'
Pixelation is to do with resolution, not settings.
Jaggies are to do with anti aliasing, again nothing to do with low, medium, high or ultra.
Consoles will run at 1280x720 with no AA. His GTX260 could run that at 60fps no problem, where a console would be stuck at 30. He can also enjoy 32 and 64 players, which the console version doesn't have, as well as mouse and keyboard controls. Not to mention the PC game is 25% cheaper than the console game. As for settings, in pretty much every game mainly low (sometimes a couple of settings at medium) is equivalent to the console game.
Consoles run BF3 in sub-HD. Correct, they are 1280x704.Please Log In to post.
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