I am new to PC Gaming, how will this cope?

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#1 addonai
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Hey guys, i am enw to PC Gaming. Well, i have played alot of pc games but mainly older ones as my pc can't run anything higher than oblivion on low.

I am due a new PC however i am on a budget so won't be able to get the beast first time around.

How will this PC cope? I want to play newish games ( The Witcher etc) on medium right off the bat and will be upgrading componenets as and when i can to become more powerfull.

- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 8MB Cache

- 3GB RAM

- nVidia GeForce 8500 GT 256MB

- Vista

When i can i will first upgrade the GFX card but how will this run as a starting point? Thanks :D

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#2 sammysalsa
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umm i take it that is a pre built?

sorry to say the 8500 isnt meant for gaming, for a small amount more you could easily upgrade to an 8600gt at least or even an 8800gs. If cash is a problem just goto a dual instead of a quad and get a better graphics card, you won't notice any difference unless playing something like really heavy on physics in crysis...

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#3 addonai
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Well yh teh GDFX would be the first thing i would upgrade in a month or so.

But can this play current games on med settings?

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#4 Alter_Echo
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Change the cpu to a dualcore.

Only get 2 gigs of ram.

Take the money you save there and get a better graphics card.

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#5 swehunt
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Well yh teh GDFX would be the first thing i would upgrade in a month or so.

But can this play current games on med settings?

addonai

By current games you mean neew games?

Probably on low.

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#6 Odysseus145
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I agree with these guys. Get an e8400, 2gb of ram, and a 9600gt. At what resolution are you playing?
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#7 Odysseus145
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[QUOTE="addonai"]

Well yh teh GDFX would be the first thing i would upgrade in a month or so.

But can this play current games on med settings?

swehunt

By current games you mean neew games?

Probably on low.

On Crysis sure, but I think that rig could pull off at least mostly medium settings.

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#8 swehunt
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="addonai"]

Well yh teh GDFX would be the first thing i would upgrade in a month or so.

But can this play current games on med settings?

Odysseus145

By current games you mean neew games?

Probably on low.

On Crysis sure, but I think that rig could pull off at least mostly medium settings.

Medium on Pro street, medium on Dirt, medium on GRID, medium on fuel of war, medium on the latest games? I would say no...

This is a card with less performance than 6600gt, the 8500Gt is no way near the performance of a 8600GT.

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#9 imprezawrx500
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will run games but wont run them above low-med settings. if your on a buget get a e7200 2gb ram and 8800gt/9600gt
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#10 wklzip
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What is your budget?

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#11 kodex1717
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I hope you didn't already buy this, because you're going to be damn disappointed.
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#12 nikeswoosh
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Go AMD man get a am2+ mobo get a dual core for now and down the road get a phenom and id think 2 gigs would be fine im running fine vista 64 then add more ram down the road plus the 4850 is a good card or even the 3850 or 70 there pretty cheap. idk thats my thought if i was getting a new computer.
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Go AMD man get a am2+ mobo get a dual core for now and down the road get a phenom and id think 2 gigs would be fine im running fine vista 64 then add more ram down the road plus the 4850 is a good card or even the 3850 or 70 there pretty cheap. idk thats my thought if i was getting a new computer.nikeswoosh

NO AMDFAN FORGET THE AM2 ! you are freaking nut !
am2 is dead not for gaming at all
read that review ? you seem the cpu to be good for witch at medium setting yo ?
want a pc that work ?
Put a e8400 or stronger . a Hd4870 : A P35 or P45 motherboard then overclock that cpu with an after-market cooler
and that would be impresisve build under that you will be felling dissapointed. for new game and stuff
so a 160$ CPU : A 300$ Video card : A 150-200$ mobo : you put other piece together and you get someting that run smooth
that what you get that are amazing from intel
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wolfdale-shrinks-transistors,1773-5.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300_9.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/phenom-x3-8750_6.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e8600_6.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e7200_6.html#sect0

so if you get any of those intel cpu you would pwn amd in the nut
even the famous black edition 9950 of Phenom is not a match to E8400-E8500 Easy overclock
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[QUOTE="nikeswoosh"]Go AMD man get a am2+ mobo get a dual core for now and down the road get a phenom and id think 2 gigs would be fine im running fine vista 64 then add more ram down the road plus the 4850 is a good card or even the 3850 or 70 there pretty cheap. idk thats my thought if i was getting a new computer.marcthpro

NO AMDFAN FORGET THE AM2 ! you are freaking nut !
am2 is dead not for gaming at all
read that review ? you seem the cpu to be good for witch at medium setting yo ?
want a pc that work ?
Put a e8400 or stronger . a Hd4870 : A P35 or P45 motherboard then overclock that cpu with an after-market cooler
and that would be impresisve build under that you will be felling dissapointed. for new game and stuff
so a 160$ CPU : A 300$ Video card : A 150-200$ mobo : you put other piece together and you get someting that run smooth
that what you get that are amazing from intel
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wolfdale-shrinks-transistors,1773-5.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300_9.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/phenom-x3-8750_6.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e8600_6.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e7200_6.html#sect0

so if you get any of those intel cpu you would pwn amd in the nut
even the famous black edition 9950 of Phenom is not a match to E8400-E8500 Easy overclock

So ur not a intel fan are u??

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#15 marcthpro
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a Gamer not a fan. benchmark can't lie specially in 5 different benchmark your the one to blame ;)
so nikewoosh if ur a gamer how can you awsner this mathematic Equation is 30fps under 60fps ?
what is the difference beetween 30fps gameplay and 60fps gameplay ?
A : maximum speed of eye is 60 fps : B reduce lag : C no lag at all
and who do 120fps does that 60 dps can't do ? A : nothing B : amazing number C : reduce lagspike
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#16 wklzip
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a Gamer not a fan. benchmark can't lie specially in 5 different benchmark your the one to blame ;)marcthpro

I believe you are more pc hardware enthusiast than a gamer.

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#17 marcthpro
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;) I know wklzip just saying still. what is the best according you amd or intel when fps ? does better.
but any gamer that know there limit wouldn't want to go below 30 frame rate per second
 and is cpu would be under 30fps at witcher
according FPS & Gameplay Graphic relative of the witcher unless lowered spec but if he ad a 8800GT OR HD4850 / 4870 he would run witcher quite not so bad. but the witcher is amazing how gpu requirement it is for a game

mean while I warn you people 8500GT IS below 7600GS. and 8600GT IS a little better hten 7600GT . 8800GT IS about 2.7x more frame rate per second then 7600GT XXX ediiton Overclocekd. that is my current gpu
i may switch to 4870x2 cause im more an enthousiast gamer tough. but i know allot about gpu. and benchmark
that is irrevelent. when poeple say Oh Spend a 500$ pre-build pc with amd. when intel will simply cost you about same for 90% more performances ain't it logic to recommend intel ?
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#18 sihunt
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Hi Ya the Intel processors are the way to go if you want to play games. Used to be AMD processors were better in the XP types over the Pentium 4 for games. But I have a question. If one upgrades the video card to a HD 4870X2,would it be necessary to have a motherboard that supports PCI Express 16 version 2 to get the most out of the card?
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#19 kodex1717
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Hi Ya the Intel processors are the way to go if you want to play games. Used to be AMD processors were better in the XP types over the Pentium 4 for games. But I have a question. If one upgrades the video card to a HD 4870X2,would it be necessary to have a motherboard that supports PCI Express 16 version 2 to get the most out of the card?sihunt

There haven't been any benchmarks on that, so I couldn't say for sure. I would doubt that it would be much problem though, as there's already a PCI-e bridge on the PCB, so that will handle any cross-talk between the two cores.

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#20 wklzip
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;) I know wklzip just saying still. what is the best according you amd or intel when fps ? does better.
but any gamer that know there limit wouldn't want to go below 30 frame rate per second

marcthpro

:)
Well AMD is still lacking behind, but i would recommend a AMD phenom if you already have a AM2 socket and a small budget.

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#21 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="marcthpro"]a Gamer not a fan. benchmark can't lie specially in 5 different benchmark your the one to blame ;)wklzip

I believe you are more pc hardware enthusiast than a gamer.

LOL! Yes he is.

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#22 nikeswoosh
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;) I know wklzip just saying still. what is the best according you amd or intel when fps ? does better.
but any gamer that know there limit wouldn't want to go below 30 frame rate per second
 and is cpu would be under 30fps at witcher
according FPS & Gameplay Graphic relative of the witcher unless lowered spec but if he ad a 8800GT OR HD4850 / 4870 he would run witcher quite not so bad. but the witcher is amazing how gpu requirement it is for a game

mean while I warn you people 8500GT IS below 7600GS. and 8600GT IS a little better hten 7600GT . 8800GT IS about 2.7x more frame rate per second then 7600GT XXX ediiton Overclocekd. that is my current gpu
i may switch to 4870x2 cause im more an enthousiast gamer tough. but i know allot about gpu. and benchmark
that is irrevelent. when poeple say Oh Spend a 500$ pre-build pc with amd. when intel will simply cost you about same for 90% more performances ain't it logic to recommend intel ?marcthpro

But u know it ur benchmark u have the phenom 9600.. that was like the first generation of phenoms check out some phenom 9950 benchmarks they beat the e8400 in almost every game.

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#23 marcthpro
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did you read what i say ? IF you overclock e8400 to 3.6ghz safe with an after-market cooler you defeat any phenom on market while phenom can't be overclocked more then he Black edition Phenom Black Edition Check out il send benchmark you made me do that. let see that again
http://www.techspot.com/review/93-amd-phenom-9850-black-edition/page10.html
unless you already got a socket am2+ you should go for intel benchmark can't lies ask elann and other people im pretty sure
they are toward intel not because they are intel fan i believe but because the benchmark shown you get better in everyway not only gaming. application : Encoding Video&Audio : in the end of the line amd aim 30-40% Less powerfull engine for half money
mean while intel aim gaming & enthusiast user i know im an enthusiast but it like that once you taste big graphic
and have the money. you want something at 1500-2000$ that kick ass mean while im pretty sure a 500-700$ intel would still kick ass for 1280x1024 & 1680x1050 Resolution users
But Elann2008 & me Are enthusiast who aim 1920x1200 gaming ain't im right Elann ?

but a 500-700$ build what you think of that ?from pre-build vs Own build ? I would defiantly go own build if you already got a
1280x1024 monitor and the bundle don't come with one. that is 1680x1050+ and instead put some video power & CPu power
& motherboard Qualtiy Nfroce 570's in your bundle is not even 16x Two Slot at 16X for sli. in future.
and not only that for today you get P35-P45 even tough it ati the build is way more powerfull Which kick ass of 650-680.nfroce who was a weakness to amd for a whole year
but now amd as there Special 780a. but that still not enough but there on the way if amd can revolution anew architecture with 15-20% overclock such as Elann2008 did with is E8500 at 4.0ghz and you could do that with a phenom think of possibility ?
if you could put a 3.0ghz Phenom at 4.0ghz. and it would run smooth. and done easily. i bet performances would get as Close as E8500 4.0ghz. but that not the case :(
mean while at Stock Cpu I find it amazing from amd to make it but the price is a bit high for it compare to E8400-e8500 with overclock feature without special ram / voltage you can do it 3.6ghz the e8500

and if you want review for Overclocking i got few and posted ealrier in Q9300 Benchmark showing it worth it to overclock to gain abiltiy that are way better on 1280x1024 resolution