Worse things have been done I suppose.
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What, are you crazy! I've been waiting for this title for six months! I'm now counting the hours! Tuesday night (when I get to play) cannot come quickly enough.
The Sims 3, by the way, has just received its third review - it got a 90.
So that's two 92's and a 90 - not bad at all. In fact that's awesome. The reviewers are all saying the same thing, that the game is damned difficult to walk away from once you commence trying to satisfy you 'life goals'. They're also saying that it's easily the best Sims game to date, and that the freedom of movement throughout the city is wonderful.
Trust me, you did the right thing. You should get drunk more often.
Whats with all the hate towards the Sims 3?
Phoenix534
The E.A. Redwood team that worked on The Sims 3 is frickin' huge - this is going to be a very in-depth title.
And the reviewers, so far, have all said the same thing, that The Sims 3 is incredibly deep - and their scores so far, 92, 92, and 90 are obviously incredibly promising.
Yeah, the attitudes that we're seeing in this thread are baffling. The Sims is all about creation, and examining life from a point of abstraction, and this third in the series is going to release us from the bonds of our own lots and release us into the freedom of an entire city in which every single Sim is being simulated - all the other sims are going to grow up, get jobs, get married, have kids, live their lives' alongside the lives' of our own sims, and eventually die. It's going to be awesome.
But what does this title lack: Think about it, it's about creativity, not destruction.
Call Of Duty, Crysis, Halo, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock. GTA, Stalker, The Witcher, Far Cry and Far Cry 2, Dead Space - the chief mechanic in each of these games, regardless of the genre, is about killing somebody or some thing. Here, at long last, we have a title... and not just any old title, but a Triple-A title... that's not about killing, but about creation, and some people... males, chiefly... don't understand it.
To me, that's just sad.
And I mean really sad.
This is the one time, thankfully, that I don't have to feel that I have to defend a game though - because it's going to sell millions of copies. Thank god.
[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]
Whats with all the hate towards the Sims 3?
Charles_Dickens
The E.A. Redwood team that worked on The Sims 3 is frickin' huge - this is going to be a very in-depth title.
And the reviewers, so far, have all said the same thing, that The Sims 3 is incredibly deep - and their scores so far, 92, 92, and 90 are obviously incredibly promising.
Yeah, the attitudes that we're seeing in this thread are baffling. The Sims is all about creation, and examining life from a point of abstraction, and this third in the series is going to release us from the bonds of our own lots and release us into the freedom of an entire city in which every single Sim is being simulated - all the other sims are going to grow up, get jobs, get married, have kids, live their lives' alongside the lives' of our own sims, and eventually die. It's going to be awesome.
But what does this title lack: Think about it, it's about creativity, not destruction.
Call Of Duty, Crysis, Halo, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock. GTA, Stalker, The Witcher, Far Cry and Far Cry 2, Dead Space - the chief mechanic in each of these games, regardless of the genre, is about killing somebody or some thing. Here, at long last, we have a title... and not just any old title, but a Triple-A title... that's not about killing, but about creation, and some people... males, chiefly... don't understand it.
To me, that's just sad.
And I mean really sad.
This is the one time, thankfully, that I don't have to feel that I have to defend a game though - because it's going to sell millions of copies. Thank god.
It's amazing what the media has done to corrupt the minds of human beings. It seems that a video game can make up for generic cliches and bad design choices by adding extra blood, gore, and violence. Thank God that there are still pure people in the world that don't have to carry a nuke launcher to have fun.
I dont't know. I think its cheaper to buy a doll house than to buy all of the sims games. oooohhhh. thats right, dolls are for sissies, and virtual doll houses are for grown men? :(
I'm on the fence with Sims 3, I used to be a huge fan 8 years ago when i was 12 with the original Sims. Ultimately sold all my Sims games when I realised how childish they were, I never even thought about picking up Sims 2 but I saw a video for Sims 3 the other day and the graphics looked quite good, the character animations in the character creator thingy looked great. The visuals reminded me a lot of Team Fortress 2 for some reason. But I'm fully not sure if I want to pick it up on release..
[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]
[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]
Whats with all the hate towards the Sims 3?
Phoenix534
The E.A. Redwood team that worked on The Sims 3 is frickin' huge - this is going to be a very in-depth title.
And the reviewers, so far, have all said the same thing, that The Sims 3 is incredibly deep - and their scores so far, 92, 92, and 90 are obviously incredibly promising.
Yeah, the attitudes that we're seeing in this thread are baffling. The Sims is all about creation, and examining life from a point of abstraction, and this third in the series is going to release us from the bonds of our own lots and release us into the freedom of an entire city in which every single Sim is being simulated - all the other sims are going to grow up, get jobs, get married, have kids, live their lives' alongside the lives' of our own sims, and eventually die. It's going to be awesome.
But what does this title lack: Think about it, it's about creativity, not destruction.
Call Of Duty, Crysis, Halo, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock. GTA, Stalker, The Witcher, Far Cry and Far Cry 2, Dead Space - the chief mechanic in each of these games, regardless of the genre, is about killing somebody or some thing. Here, at long last, we have a title... and not just any old title, but a Triple-A title... that's not about killing, but about creation, and some people... males, chiefly... don't understand it.
To me, that's just sad.
And I mean really sad.
This is the one time, thankfully, that I don't have to feel that I have to defend a game though - because it's going to sell millions of copies. Thank god.
It's amazing what the media has done to corrupt the minds of human beings. It seems that a video game can make up for generic cliches and bad design choices by adding extra blood, gore, and violence. Thank God that there are still pure people in the world that don't have to carry a nuke launcher to have fun.
Hey, I'm not the one with the sig saying RE fan...
[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]
[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]
The E.A. Redwood team that worked on The Sims 3 is frickin' huge - this is going to be a very in-depth title.
And the reviewers, so far, have all said the same thing, that The Sims 3 is incredibly deep - and their scores so far, 92, 92, and 90 are obviously incredibly promising.
Yeah, the attitudes that we're seeing in this thread are baffling. The Sims is all about creation, and examining life from a point of abstraction, and this third in the series is going to release us from the bonds of our own lots and release us into the freedom of an entire city in which every single Sim is being simulated - all the other sims are going to grow up, get jobs, get married, have kids, live their lives' alongside the lives' of our own sims, and eventually die. It's going to be awesome.
But what does this title lack: Think about it, it's about creativity, not destruction.
Call Of Duty, Crysis, Halo, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock. GTA, Stalker, The Witcher, Far Cry and Far Cry 2, Dead Space - the chief mechanic in each of these games, regardless of the genre, is about killing somebody or some thing. Here, at long last, we have a title... and not just any old title, but a Triple-A title... that's not about killing, but about creation, and some people... males, chiefly... don't understand it.
To me, that's just sad.
And I mean really sad.
This is the one time, thankfully, that I don't have to feel that I have to defend a game though - because it's going to sell millions of copies. Thank god.
pvtdonut54
It's amazing what the media has done to corrupt the minds of human beings. It seems that a video game can make up for generic cliches and bad design choices by adding extra blood, gore, and violence. Thank God that there are still pure people in the world that don't have to carry a nuke launcher to have fun.
Hey, I'm not the one with the sig saying RE fan...
So?
[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]
[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]
The E.A. Redwood team that worked on The Sims 3 is frickin' huge - this is going to be a very in-depth title.
And the reviewers, so far, have all said the same thing, that The Sims 3 is incredibly deep - and their scores so far, 92, 92, and 90 are obviously incredibly promising.
Yeah, the attitudes that we're seeing in this thread are baffling. The Sims is all about creation, and examining life from a point of abstraction, and this third in the series is going to release us from the bonds of our own lots and release us into the freedom of an entire city in which every single Sim is being simulated - all the other sims are going to grow up, get jobs, get married, have kids, live their lives' alongside the lives' of our own sims, and eventually die. It's going to be awesome.
But what does this title lack: Think about it, it's about creativity, not destruction.
Call Of Duty, Crysis, Halo, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock. GTA, Stalker, The Witcher, Far Cry and Far Cry 2, Dead Space - the chief mechanic in each of these games, regardless of the genre, is about killing somebody or some thing. Here, at long last, we have a title... and not just any old title, but a Triple-A title... that's not about killing, but about creation, and some people... males, chiefly... don't understand it.
To me, that's just sad.
And I mean really sad.
This is the one time, thankfully, that I don't have to feel that I have to defend a game though - because it's going to sell millions of copies. Thank god.
pvtdonut54
It's amazing what the media has done to corrupt the minds of human beings. It seems that a video game can make up for generic cliches and bad design choices by adding extra blood, gore, and violence. Thank God that there are still pure people in the world that don't have to carry a nuke launcher to have fun.
Hey, I'm not the one with the sig saying RE fan...
It's not a question of us vs them. You can like The Sims 3 and still like a lot of other games that are violent - but to dislike a game, simply because it's about creativity, and because it's not about destruction and killing, is just... childish. I suspect that a lot of the haters here are young males in their early to mid teens.you can't cuz he bought the digital copy, failThats y the commercials say drink responsibly. lol. I say burn the game
painguy1
[QUOTE="pvtdonut54"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]
It's amazing what the media has done to corrupt the minds of human beings. It seems that a video game can make up for generic cliches and bad design choices by adding extra blood, gore, and violence. Thank God that there are still pure people in the world that don't have to carry a nuke launcher to have fun.
Charles_Dickens
Hey, I'm not the one with the sig saying RE fan...
It's not a question of us vs them. You can like The Sims 3 and still like a lot of other games that are violent - but to dislike a game, simply because it's about creativity, and because it's not about destruction and killing, is just... childish. I suspect that a lot of the haters here are young males in their early to mid teens.That's my age...But I agree with you. I like the Sims, but I also like things like Resident Evil and Fallout because of the gameplay choices and innovation. I could care less if they were super violent. Although, it would make them a little awkward to play.
[QUOTE="pvtdonut54"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]
It's amazing what the media has done to corrupt the minds of human beings. It seems that a video game can make up for generic cliches and bad design choices by adding extra blood, gore, and violence. Thank God that there are still pure people in the world that don't have to carry a nuke launcher to have fun.
Charles_Dickens
Hey, I'm not the one with the sig saying RE fan...
It's not a question of us vs them. You can like The Sims 3 and still like a lot of other games that are violent - but to dislike a game, simply because it's about creativity, and because it's not about destruction and killing, is just... childish. I suspect that a lot of the haters here are young males in their early to mid teens. Uh no, most guys dislike it because it is a virtual dollhouse. Now, whether men should be playing around with barbies and dollhouses is another philosophical debate entirely, but that is what Sims essentially is. Taking your sims to the toilet and watching them take a dump, having tea parties, and banging them together to make pretend babies.[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"][QUOTE="pvtdonut54"]It's not a question of us vs them. You can like The Sims 3 and still like a lot of other games that are violent - but to dislike a game, simply because it's about creativity, and because it's not about destruction and killing, is just... childish. I suspect that a lot of the haters here are young males in their early to mid teens. Uh no, most guys dislike it because it is a virtual dollhouse. Now, whether men should be playing around with barbies and dollhouses is another philosophical debate entirely, but that is what Sims essentially is. Taking your sims to the toilet and watching them take a dump, having tea parties, and banging them together to make pretend babies.Hey, I'm not the one with the sig saying RE fan...
F1_2004
You've described The Sims 2.
The Sims 3 is a much better representation of the original idea as envisioned by Will Wright, which was to create an abstraction of life, as we live it. Both of the first two Sims games, I felt, were massive teases, because they were kind of shallow, and only offered glimpses into what a great game it could be. I think of The Sims 3 as really being the first game in the series, and I can't wait to see where the developer goes next in The Sims 4.
As far as your argument is concerned, I can assure you that I've never played with dolls, nor have I ever played with a doll house - and my guess is that I'm going to love The Sims 3 for the thousands of ideas that have gone into this game. One of the developers was talking about that very notion: he said that hundreds of people have been working on this game for years, and that each person has advanced dozens of ideas. This means that there are literally thousands of things to discover in this game.
The PC Gamer reviewer wrote in his review that he had been playing The Sims 3 for days, and yet felt that he was only just scratching the surface. If you want to think of The Sims 3 as being 'just a virtual doll-house' then that's your business. In my opinion... and I'll admit up front that I haven't even played this title yet... that playing The Sims 3 is going to be a much, much, much deeper experience than 'playing with a doll house'.
Being a PC gamer - and loving all types of games - this is not a title I would want to miss. It's going to be so refreshing playing a game in which I don't have to kill people and destroy things.
Hugely looking forward to the release on Tuesday.
Personally, that's not something I would tell the world. In fact, I think I'd rather gouge my eyes out and puncture my ear drums before I told the world I was stupid and ordered Sims 3. That's just me.Worse things have been done I suppose.
Mr__Peanut
Uh no, most guys dislike it because it is a virtual dollhouse. Now, whether men should be playing around with barbies and dollhouses is another philosophical debate entirely, but that is what Sims essentially is. Taking your sims to the toilet and watching them take a dump, having tea parties, and banging them together to make pretend babies.[QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"] It's not a question of us vs them. You can like The Sims 3 and still like a lot of other games that are violent - but to dislike a game, simply because it's about creativity, and because it's not about destruction and killing, is just... childish. I suspect that a lot of the haters here are young males in their early to mid teens. Charles_Dickens
You've described The Sims 2.
The Sims 3 is a much better representation of the original idea as envisioned by Will Wright, which was to create an abstraction of life, as we live it. Both of the first two Sims games, I felt, were massive teases, because they were kind of shallow, and only offered glimpses into what a great game it could be. I think of The Sims 3 as really being the first game in the series, and I can't wait to see where the developer goes next in The Sims 4.
As far as your argument is concerned, I can assure you that I've never played with dolls, nor have I ever played with a doll house - and my guess is that I'm going to love The Sims 3 for the thousands of ideas that have gone into this game. One of the developers was talking about that very notion: he said that hundreds of people have been working on this game for years, and that each person has advanced dozens of ideas. This means that there are literally thousands of things to discover in this game.
The PC Gamer reviewer wrote in his review that he had been playing The Sims 3 for days, and yet felt that he was only just scratching the surface. If you want to think of The Sims 3 as being 'just a virtual doll-house' then that's your business. In my opinion... and I'll admit up front that I haven't even played this title yet... that playing The Sims 3 is going to be a much, much, much deeper experience than 'playing with a doll house'.
Being a PC gamer - and loving all types of games - this is not a title I would want to miss. It's going to be so refreshing playing a game in which I don't have to kill people and destroy things.
Hugely looking forward to the release on Tuesday.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
Uh no, most guys dislike it because it is a virtual dollhouse. Now, whether men should be playing around with barbies and dollhouses is another philosophical debate entirely, but that is what Sims essentially is. Taking your sims to the toilet and watching them take a dump, having tea parties, and banging them together to make pretend babies.[QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"] It's not a question of us vs them. You can like The Sims 3 and still like a lot of other games that are violent - but to dislike a game, simply because it's about creativity, and because it's not about destruction and killing, is just... childish. I suspect that a lot of the haters here are young males in their early to mid teens. Charles_Dickens
You've described The Sims 2.
The Sims 3 is a much better representation of the original idea as envisioned by Will Wright, which was to create an abstraction of life, as we live it. Both of the first two Sims games, I felt, were massive teases, because they were kind of shallow, and only offered glimpses into what a great game it could be. I think of The Sims 3 as really being the first game in the series, and I can't wait to see where the developer goes next in The Sims 4.
As far as your argument is concerned, I can assure you that I've never played with dolls, nor have I ever played with a doll house - and my guess is that I'm going to love The Sims 3 for the thousands of ideas that have gone into this game. One of the developers was talking about that very notion: he said that hundreds of people have been working on this game for years, and that each person has advanced dozens of ideas. This means that there are literally thousands of things to discover in this game.
The PC Gamer reviewer wrote in his review that he had been playing The Sims 3 for days, and yet felt that he was only just scratching the surface. If you want to think of The Sims 3 as being 'just a virtual doll-house' then that's your business. In my opinion... and I'll admit up front that I haven't even played this title yet... that playing The Sims 3 is going to be a much, much, much deeper experience than 'playing with a doll house'.
Being a PC gamer - and loving all types of games - this is not a title I would want to miss. It's going to be so refreshing playing a game in which I don't have to kill people and destroy things.
Hugely looking forward to the release on Tuesday.
Growing up as a kid, you never once had a Cabbage Patch Kid? Or maybe a Garbage Pail Kid? Or you never played with GI Joe figures? Or Transformers? You do realize that all these things are c|assfied as "dolls" don't you? But to get a boy to play with a doll - which they associate as a girl toy, the toy industry started using the term "Action Figure".
You can call them what you want, in the end, they're all dolls.
[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]
[QUOTE="F1_2004"] Uh no, most guys dislike it because it is a virtual dollhouse. Now, whether men should be playing around with barbies and dollhouses is another philosophical debate entirely, but that is what Sims essentially is. Taking your sims to the toilet and watching them take a dump, having tea parties, and banging them together to make pretend babies.neatfeatguy
You've described The Sims 2.
The Sims 3 is a much better representation of the original idea as envisioned by Will Wright, which was to create an abstraction of life, as we live it. Both of the first two Sims games, I felt, were massive teases, because they were kind of shallow, and only offered glimpses into what a great game it could be. I think of The Sims 3 as really being the first game in the series, and I can't wait to see where the developer goes next in The Sims 4.
As far as your argument is concerned, I can assure you that I've never played with dolls, nor have I ever played with a doll house - and my guess is that I'm going to love The Sims 3 for the thousands of ideas that have gone into this game. One of the developers was talking about that very notion: he said that hundreds of people have been working on this game for years, and that each person has advanced dozens of ideas. This means that there are literally thousands of things to discover in this game.
The PC Gamer reviewer wrote in his review that he had been playing The Sims 3 for days, and yet felt that he was only just scratching the surface. If you want to think of The Sims 3 as being 'just a virtual doll-house' then that's your business. In my opinion... and I'll admit up front that I haven't even played this title yet... that playing The Sims 3 is going to be a much, much, much deeper experience than 'playing with a doll house'.
Being a PC gamer - and loving all types of games - this is not a title I would want to miss. It's going to be so refreshing playing a game in which I don't have to kill people and destroy things.
Hugely looking forward to the release on Tuesday.
Growing up as a kid, you never once had a Cabbage Patch Kid? Or maybe a Garbage Pail Kid? Or you never played with GI Joe figures? Or Transformers? You do realize that all these things are c|assfied as "dolls" don't you? But to get a boy to play with a doll - which they associate as a girl toy, the toy industry started using the term "Action Figure".
You can call them what you want, in the end, they're all dolls.
Very true.
Will Wright's not even involved in the 3rd one so I don't know what you're all excited about, it's just a souless sequel the company forced out for more money and won't contain any of the charm or inovation of the originals.
Well, I haven't played the game yet, obviously, so I can only quote from people who have actually spent time playing The Sims 3. But here's what Eurogamer wrote: "In short: enormously promising. I just don't know if it will be enough to convert those who fill comment threads whining about the stream of add-on packs, and that's a shame. Without losing any of the construction and personalisation elements which have attracted the huge casual audience for The Sims, this is as gamer-centric as the series has ever been. Unless something goes drastically wrong in the next two weeks, I really can't see this not being the best yet." Soulless? Doesn't sound soulless to me. Three scores are in, by the way. Those scores are 92, 92, and 90 - not exactly low. Also, this particular writer's opinion has harmonized with the other three writers, who wrote the three reviews - he's saying that 'he really can't see this as not being the best yet'. I'm not surprised that you're bashing a game you haven't even played yet, even in the face of all these positive reviews. Because this is exactly what I'm seeing at gaming forums everywhere - people are wanting to bash certain games for no reason whatsoever, other than to draw attention to themselves. How the hell can you be so negative about a game that you haven't even played yet! I don't mind a debate - but for crying out loud! Can we at least wait until the game has been released, and we've all played it, before we start bashing it like this! And yeah, I realize that I'm kind of promoting a game that I haven't played yet - but at least there's some pretty strong evidence... I mean, obviously... to suggest that this third in the series is going to be pretty great. Jeepers. (I don't know. Maybe I just shouldn't have even responded to that?)Will Wright's not even involved in the 3rd one so I don't know what you're all excited about, it's just a souless sequel the company forced out for more money and won't contain any of the charm or inovation of the originals.
Mr__Peanut
You didn't even acknowledge that Will Wright isn't on board.
And as for the advance reviews I could care less, I don't know why people put editor's reviews on a pedastal all the time, they're just someone else's opinions and they're too scared to be controversial to the general public to be reliable.
You didn't even acknowledge that Will Wright isn't on board.
And as for the advance reviews I could care less, I don't know why people put editor's reviews on a pedastal all the time, they're just someone else's opinions and they're too scared to be controversial to the general public to be reliable.
Mr__Peanut
The designers at Redwood discussed the game extensively with Will Wright.
There's an article in which one of the producers said that he had been in a meeting with Will Wright, and that there was a fifteen minute break in the meeting during which they both went down to the men's room - the producer jokingly said that Will Wright never stopped talking about the game and that his mind was working the entire time. He added, again jokingly, that he was going to have to try to train himself to think about games even while taking a pee. I'm not quite sure why it matters though? Hundreds of talented people worked on this title - it's no longer about just one person.
And if you want to scoff at three review scores of 92, 92, and 90 then that's your business - I think that you're opening yourself up for a lot of criticism though. You're discrediting three perfectly legitimate review scores with a wave of the hand, simply because it conveniently fits your argument.
What I find really alarming, though, is the way you're bashing this game ("It's just a souless sequel the company forced out for more money and won't contain any of the charm or inovation of the originals") without ever having played it. It's a bit silly, actually. But again, maybe I'm the silly one for even responding to this. To me, this is yet another example of how people will come to a forum to argue and complain about something just for the sake of complaining about it. I mean, seriously, let's wait until the game has been released before we start to bash it like this.
Have you ever created anything in your entire life? How would you like it if you wrote a novel, say, and somebody critiqued your novel, and said it was 'soulless', without ever having read it? I know exactly what you would do: You'd attack them like a madman, saying, how dare you be critical of my novel without ever even having read it. You don't have a leg to stand on.
I shouldn't even be responding to this - this is just plain stupid.
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