I think Age of Conan is very under-rated....

[QUOTE="MotherRussia"]

Hello, I have been playing AoC for the last month (38 level ranger in Indomitus server PvP) and I have to say I am having a really good time. I think that the game still needs to be polish a bit more (although they have done a good time since May) and it is much more stable now. I havent got a single crash or memory leak in the last two weeks. The combat is the best combat of any MMO so far (I hate autoattack), the graphics are outstanding (if your computer can handle it) the world feels alive and fun, it has a more mature touch and the PvP is competitive and addictive (190 kkills so far...).

But I am amazed that noone talks about this game anymore. People is back to the old debate about LOTRO and WOW. I played both LOTRO and WOW in the last 3 years...I have to recognise WOW is a great game but after playing AoC for a while, it will be tough to get back to Wow. The graphic engine is really old and that cartoon look kills it for me.

Dont take AoC out of the MMO battle so far, I am sure this game will be up there in the battle for best MMO.

SEANMCAD

Interesting. I noticed you didnt mention anything about crafting, game economics or complexity.

I understand this game does have the first two items but if players dont mention them as a highlight of the game I wonder if the game is for me.

Not being sarcastic here I am serious becuase I am intrested but the game but have very good aspects beyond just combat and pvp for me personally.

Some of the crafting still needs wrok I believe such as gem cutting,

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"][QUOTE="MotherRussia"]

Hello, I have been playing AoC for the last month (38 level ranger in Indomitus server PvP) and I have to say I am having a really good time. I think that the game still needs to be polish a bit more (although they have done a good time since May) and it is much more stable now. I havent got a single crash or memory leak in the last two weeks. The combat is the best combat of any MMO so far (I hate autoattack), the graphics are outstanding (if your computer can handle it) the world feels alive and fun, it has a more mature touch and the PvP is competitive and addictive (190 kkills so far...).

But I am amazed that noone talks about this game anymore. People is back to the old debate about LOTRO and WOW. I played both LOTRO and WOW in the last 3 years...I have to recognise WOW is a great game but after playing AoC for a while, it will be tough to get back to Wow. The graphic engine is really old and that cartoon look kills it for me.

Dont take AoC out of the MMO battle so far, I am sure this game will be up there in the battle for best MMO.

Stargate_SG-1_

Interesting. I noticed you didnt mention anything about crafting, game economics or complexity.

I understand this game does have the first two items but if players dont mention them as a highlight of the game I wonder if the game is for me.

Not being sarcastic here I am serious becuase I am intrested but the game but have very good aspects beyond just combat and pvp for me personally.

Some of the crafting still needs wrok I believe such as gem cutting,

Id like to know how the PvP is more Competitive than say WoW? Its identical, oh except WoW doesnt have real world spawn killing.

And Autoattack? most of the classes bar the melee play exactly like WoWs ( Only healing is rather passive in comparison ), Auto Attack or CHEATING with G11/G15 keyboards pressing 1 button makes you do the best combos? how is that balanced?

Finishing Combos are nice but unbalanced, come to think of it, all the classes are poorly balanced with one another.

[QUOTE="MotherRussia"]

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Age of Conan for me had more problems than it was worth. I was having a great time at launch but by the time I got to level 40, they released some terrible patches. My FPS was cut in half, weird glitches, and infinite loading times. I haven't played it since.DanielDust

I think they released some patches and fixed most of the memory leaks, I was having some (grey map) when I started playing but they dissappeared in the last weeks...It is a pity the game was not very stable at the begining cause some people got tired of tech issues even if they enjoyed the game....anyone knows how many suscribers this game has now?

Underrated my ass. That game was hyped to epic levels. Hell I fell into it as well. The game is all flash. I tell my friends to steer clear of that pile of mess.

[QUOTE="Stargate_SG-1_"][QUOTE="SEANMCAD"][QUOTE="MotherRussia"]

Hello, I have been playing AoC for the last month (38 level ranger in Indomitus server PvP) and I have to say I am having a really good time. I think that the game still needs to be polish a bit more (although they have done a good time since May) and it is much more stable now. I havent got a single crash or memory leak in the last two weeks. The combat is the best combat of any MMO so far (I hate autoattack), the graphics are outstanding (if your computer can handle it) the world feels alive and fun, it has a more mature touch and the PvP is competitive and addictive (190 kkills so far...).

But I am amazed that noone talks about this game anymore. People is back to the old debate about LOTRO and WOW. I played both LOTRO and WOW in the last 3 years...I have to recognise WOW is a great game but after playing AoC for a while, it will be tough to get back to Wow. The graphic engine is really old and that cartoon look kills it for me.

Dont take AoC out of the MMO battle so far, I am sure this game will be up there in the battle for best MMO.

PC360Wii

Interesting. I noticed you didnt mention anything about crafting, game economics or complexity.

I understand this game does have the first two items but if players dont mention them as a highlight of the game I wonder if the game is for me.

Not being sarcastic here I am serious becuase I am intrested but the game but have very good aspects beyond just combat and pvp for me personally.

Some of the crafting still needs wrok I believe such as gem cutting,

Id like to know how the PvP is more Competitive than say WoW? Its identical, oh except WoW doesnt have real world spawn killing.

And Autoattack? most of the classes bar the melee play exactly like WoWs ( Only healing is rather passive in comparison ), Auto Attack or CHEATING with G11/G15 keyboards pressing 1 button makes you do the best combos? how is that balanced?

Finishing Combos are nice but unbalanced, come to think of it, all the classes are poorly balanced with one another.

AoC is a fine game, my friends and I are having a blast playing it (just left the Pyramid!!) if it sucks after level 50 I dont know cause I havent reached that level but so far it is a better more intense experience for me than Wow. That is just my opinion. Also , I dont know if the people is leaving or not but my server is very alive and full of people...

[QUOTE="leper-messiahs"]

http://news.bigdownload.com/2008/08/01/blizzard-admits-age-of-conan-stealing-wow-players/

Anyone can find Info or a blog to support their arguments. The facts is, AOC is doing well, more players are joining every day, despite what a minority of whiners and haters are trying to spread.

PC360Wii

Stocks are plummeting, 40% have returned to WoW, Funcom has financial problems and a poor backround.

Your wrong in all accounts, talk about ignorant.

If you even bothered reading the thread, many stocks plummett, that is the ups and downs of the stock market, and you call me ignorant? Shoe me one source that shows AOC is the cause of the stock, or that it is failing or dieing? Don't call someone ignorant when it is obvious you have no clue how the stock market works. This subject has already been discussed in the thread, the stock has no bearing on AOC right now, stocks go up and down, that is the nature of the beast. Take 2's stock has plummetted, despite GTA breaking records. Don;t comment on somethign you know nothing about.

As soon as AoC patches up a few more things, I'm definitely getting this game. I'm not going to be swayed by a few vocal naysayers.

I'd much rather play AoC than WoW.

People got tired of premature launches.RK-Mara

So very true, AoC felt like i had paid to play the beta....

As soon as AoC patches up a few more things, I'm definitely getting this game. I'm not going to be swayed by a few vocal naysayers.

I'd much rather play AoC than WoW.

AFBrat77

By a few? .... its not a few, this is the reality.

And your saying that considering you havnt even played it? Great Logic.

Look what I found in my bloomberg, AoC is moving to Russia, if Funcom is doing so bad and they dont have money, why are they moving to Russia? the haters got owned... It may be true that the higher levels may lack content (as I said I am only level 38 so I dont know) but AoC has some bright future (take into account that it has been out only for a couple of months...)

Russian Version of Age of Conan Coming in Q4 Page 1/5

- 1C Company to Run and Operate a Fully Localized Version in
Partnership with Funcom -

DURHAM, N.C.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 31, 2008
Funcom and 1C Company announce the signing of a Service
Partnership Agreement for a Russian version of Age of Conan: Hyborian
Adventures. According to the agreement 1C will fully localize voice
and text and operate local customer service, communities, websites and
in-game support for Age of Conan in Russian, while Funcom takes care
of back-end technology, server infrastructure and continuous
development of the game. A dedicated Russian realm is to be created,
giving the Russian community an opportunity to stay together and
communicate with each other in their native language.

The agreement shows Funcom and 1C Company's full dedication to the
growing Eastern European market, and is another important step in
ensuring long-term success for Age of Conan throughout numerous
languages and regions.

"1C Company is a clear leader in the Russian speaking regions, and
we are confident we have found the perfect partner," said Trond Arne
Aas, CEO of Funcom. "We have already shipped a substantial amount of
English boxes into Russia, Ukraine and Belarus, but we know that the
real key to success is achieved through localized servers and
services. Together with 1C Company we will do our uttermost to make
Age of Conan a success for many years to come."

"We are happy working together with Funcom on bringing Age of
Conan to Russia. The game has already gained success here, reaching
top places in many retail charts. With an already established fan base
in Russia I'm sure it will become even bigger after the localized
version appears on the market," said Nikolay Baryshnikov,
International Sales Director of 1C Company. "Age of Conan is a great
mix of action, RPG elements and adventure. I believe that the game has
the potential to become a big hit in Russia."

Age of Conan launched this spring, and instantly became one of the
fastest selling PC Games of all times, topping the charts in more than
17 countries. The unique mix of real-time action combat, incredible

Russian gamers will get access to the same version, and all updates
and additions to the game will be released in Russian at the same time
as other languages. The final release date for the Russian version is
still to be set, but the game will come out during Q4 2008.

Russian will be the sixth language Age of Conan becomes available
in, and launch in additional languages and territories is actively
pursued by Funcom. For more information or to order Age of Conan -
either in English, German, French or Spanish - visit the official
website at www.ageofconan.com where you also can access the respective
community websites.

About Funcom - Funcom is an independent developer and publisher of
online games for PC, consoles and mobile platforms. Funcom has
provided outstanding entertainment since 1993 and continues to expand
its track-record of more than twenty released games. Recent titles
include 'The Longest Journey,' 'Anarchy Online,' 'Dreamfall: The
Longest Journey' and 'Age of Conan.' For corporate information please
visit www.funcom.com. For information about Funcom games visit
www.anarchy-online.com, www.dreamfall.com, www.darkdaysarecoming.com
or www.ageofconan.com. Funcom is listed on the Oslo Stock Exchange

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

As soon as AoC patches up a few more things, I'm definitely getting this game. I'm not going to be swayed by a few vocal naysayers.

I'd much rather play AoC than WoW.

PC360Wii

By a few? .... its not a few, this is the reality.

And your saying that considering you havnt even played it? Great Logic.

I'll go by the GS reviewer thank you. He said personally in a thread, that with a few patches the game will be the best MMRPG to date....and I think it will be.

Reality? thats doubtfull, only your opinion. I've seen people in here constantly trash GW, when I think its an excellent game.

Look what I found in my bloomberg, AoC is moving to Russia, if Funcom is doing so bad and they dont have money, why are they moving to Russia? the haters got owned... It may be true that the higher levels may lack content (as I said I am only level 38 so I dont know) but AoC has some bright future (take into account that it has been out only for a couple of months...)

Russian Version of Age of Conan Coming in Q4 Page 1/5

- 1C Company to Run and Operate a Fully Localized Version in
Partnership with Funcom -

DURHAM, N.C.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 31, 2008
Funcom and 1C Company announce the signing of a Service
Partnership Agreement for a Russian version of Age of Conan: Hyborian
Adventures. According to the agreement 1C will fully localize voice
and text and operate local customer service, communities, websites and
in-game support for Age of Conan in Russian, while Funcom takes care
of back-end technology, server infrastructure and continuous
development of the game. A dedicated Russian realm is to be created,
giving the Russian community an opportunity to stay together and
communicate with each other in their native language.

The agreement shows Funcom and 1C Company's full dedication to the
growing Eastern European market, and is another important step in
ensuring long-term success for Age of Conan throughout numerous
languages and regions.

"1C Company is a clear leader in the Russian speaking regions, and
we are confident we have found the perfect partner," said Trond Arne
Aas, CEO of Funcom. "We have already shipped a substantial amount of
English boxes into Russia, Ukraine and Belarus, but we know that the
real key to success is achieved through localized servers and
services. Together with 1C Company we will do our uttermost to make
Age of Conan a success for many years to come."

"We are happy working together with Funcom on bringing Age of
Conan to Russia. The game has already gained success here, reaching
top places in many retail charts. With an already established fan base
in Russia I'm sure it will become even bigger after the localized
version appears on the market," said Nikolay Baryshnikov,
International Sales Director of 1C Company. "Age of Conan is a great
mix of action, RPG elements and adventure. I believe that the game has
the potential to become a big hit in Russia."

Age of Conan launched this spring, and instantly became one of the
fastest selling PC Games of all times, topping the charts in more than
17 countries. The unique mix of real-time action combat, incredible

Russian gamers will get access to the same version, and all updates
and additions to the game will be released in Russian at the same time
as other languages. The final release date for the Russian version is
still to be set, but the game will come out during Q4 2008.

Russian will be the sixth language Age of Conan becomes available
in, and launch in additional languages and territories is actively
pursued by Funcom. For more information or to order Age of Conan -
either in English, German, French or Spanish - visit the official
website at www.ageofconan.com where you also can access the respective
community websites.

About Funcom - Funcom is an independent developer and publisher of
online games for PC, consoles and mobile platforms. Funcom has
provided outstanding entertainment since 1993 and continues to expand
its track-record of more than twenty released games. Recent titles
include 'The Longest Journey,' 'Anarchy Online,' 'Dreamfall: The
Longest Journey' and 'Age of Conan.' For corporate information please
visit www.funcom.com. For information about Funcom games visit
www.anarchy-online.com, www.dreamfall.com, www.darkdaysarecoming.com
or www.ageofconan.com. Funcom is listed on the Oslo Stock Exchange

MotherRussia

Hellgate London was moved to Korea and Japan before finally going under (well...they still aren't technically under yet, but they fired all their employees and have since stopped subscriptions to the game).

I really don't know the success or failures of Funcom (not enough info), but one thing I will say is that what is seemingly going on currently with the game is almost EXACTLY like what was happening with FSS and HG:L.

It's actually pretty comical, reading the AoC official forums is exactly like reading the HG:L forums prior to it's demise.

[QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Stargate_SG-1_"]

K, you said it is a failure? How so? You hve the sales figures? know how many people are playing or how well it may or may not do in the future? Once again, prove it is a failuire before sprewing nonsense.

SEANMCAD

sales figures to justify the quality of a game is so anyonying. Even more so given the fact that AoC has a HUGE advertising campagin so of course a lot of people are going to buy it to see what all the talk is about.

I only view the quality of a game from the game description and other players...nothing else, not even review ratings

I never said quality, I said failure, re-read my post, a game that is a financial success, cannot be called a failure can it, that's what gaming is, a business. Simple concept.

[QUOTE="MotherRussia"]

Look what I found in my bloomberg, AoC is moving to Russia, if Funcom is doing so bad and they dont have money, why are they moving to Russia? the haters got owned... It may be true that the higher levels may lack content (as I said I am only level 38 so I dont know) but AoC has some bright future (take into account that it has been out only for a couple of months...)

Russian Version of Age of Conan Coming in Q4 Page 1/5

- 1C Company to Run and Operate a Fully Localized Version in
Partnership with Funcom -

DURHAM, N.C.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 31, 2008
Funcom and 1C Company announce the signing of a Service
Partnership Agreement for a Russian version of Age of Conan: Hyborian
Adventures. According to the agreement 1C will fully localize voice
and text and operate local customer service, communities, websites and
in-game support for Age of Conan in Russian, while Funcom takes care
of back-end technology, server infrastructure and continuous
development of the game. A dedicated Russian realm is to be created,
giving the Russian community an opportunity to stay together and
communicate with each other in their native language.

The agreement shows Funcom and 1C Company's full dedication to the
growing Eastern European market, and is another important step in
ensuring long-term success for Age of Conan throughout numerous
languages and regions.

"1C Company is a clear leader in the Russian speaking regions, and
we are confident we have found the perfect partner," said Trond Arne
Aas, CEO of Funcom. "We have already shipped a substantial amount of
English boxes into Russia, Ukraine and Belarus, but we know that the
real key to success is achieved through localized servers and
services. Together with 1C Company we will do our uttermost to make
Age of Conan a success for many years to come."

"We are happy working together with Funcom on bringing Age of
Conan to Russia. The game has already gained success here, reaching
top places in many retail charts. With an already established fan base
in Russia I'm sure it will become even bigger after the localized
version appears on the market," said Nikolay Baryshnikov,
International Sales Director of 1C Company. "Age of Conan is a great
mix of action, RPG elements and adventure. I believe that the game has
the potential to become a big hit in Russia."

Age of Conan launched this spring, and instantly became one of the
fastest selling PC Games of all times, topping the charts in more than
17 countries. The unique mix of real-time action combat, incredible

Russian gamers will get access to the same version, and all updates
and additions to the game will be released in Russian at the same time
as other languages. The final release date for the Russian version is
still to be set, but the game will come out during Q4 2008.

Russian will be the sixth language Age of Conan becomes available
in, and launch in additional languages and territories is actively
pursued by Funcom. For more information or to order Age of Conan -
either in English, German, French or Spanish - visit the official
website at www.ageofconan.com where you also can access the respective
community websites.

About Funcom - Funcom is an independent developer and publisher of
online games for PC, consoles and mobile platforms. Funcom has
provided outstanding entertainment since 1993 and continues to expand
its track-record of more than twenty released games. Recent titles
include 'The Longest Journey,' 'Anarchy Online,' 'Dreamfall: The
Longest Journey' and 'Age of Conan.' For corporate information please
visit www.funcom.com. For information about Funcom games visit
www.anarchy-online.com, www.dreamfall.com, www.darkdaysarecoming.com
or www.ageofconan.com. Funcom is listed on the Oslo Stock Exchange

dnuggs40

Hellgate London was moved to Korea and Japan before finally going under (well...they still aren't technically under yet, but they fired all their employees and have since stopped subscriptions to the game).

I really don't know the success or failures of Funcom (not enough info), but one thing I will say is that what is seemingly going on currently with the game is almost EXACTLY like what was happening with FSS and HG:L.

It's actually pretty comical, reading the AoC official forums is exactly like reading the HG:L forums prior to it's demise.

What a bunch of crock, how many game forums you been on? game forums are a cess pool of whiners and people who exaggerate. Not to mention, forums are a small minority of the actual gaming populace. All game forums, especially MMO's. Hell, if you listened to game forums all games are bad.

What a bunch of crock, how many game forums you been on? game forums are a cess pool of whiners and people who exaggerate. Not to mention, forums are a small minority of the actual gaming populace. All game forums, especially MMO's. Hell, if you listened to game forums all games are bad.leper-messiahs

Actually, it's not a bunch of crock. Look up the history on HG:L...you will clearly see exactly what I said is what occured. Also, I have been gaming for 20 years and have been on countless game forums.

Believe whatever you want, though, doesn't make a difference. And again, I am not saying the game is dying, going under, ect...I am just saying the so far the events and observations of AoC is VERY similar. In my personal opinion, I think the game is in big trouble, but I won't state that as fact (yet).

Under rated? Not likely

Overrated and hyped up the *? Hell yea

Do you even know what the term under-rated means? When AoC was in development the whole game was marketed like Halo 3 (Thanks to Microsoft) By the time the game released and the first 80s came out, there was NOTHING. It may or may not be good now but first impressions are really important for anything. They lost my $15 sub after a shaft from CE rewards, invisible npcs and players, and instancing (HGL instancing was better since they don't crash every 3hrs)

I list everything that failed in this game but if you like it its your opinion but don't say it was under rated because it certainly was not!

Under rated? Not likely

Overrated and hyped up the *? Hell yea

Do you even know what the term under-rated means? When AoC was in development the whole game was marketed like Halo 3 (Thanks to Microsoft) By the time the game released and the first 80s came out, there was NOTHING. It may or may not be good now but first impressions are really important for anything. They lost my $15 sub after a shaft from CE rewards, invisible npcs and players, and instancing (HGL instancing was better since they don't crash every 3hrs)

I list everything that failed in this game but if you like it its your opinion but don't say it was under rated because it certainly was not!

modai119

You talking about HG:L instancing now, or when it was released (like AoC currently is)?

[QUOTE="modai119"]

Under rated? Not likely

Overrated and hyped up the *? Hell yea

Do you even know what the term under-rated means? When AoC was in development the whole game was marketed like Halo 3 (Thanks to Microsoft) By the time the game released and the first 80s came out, there was NOTHING. It may or may not be good now but first impressions are really important for anything. They lost my $15 sub after a shaft from CE rewards, invisible npcs and players, and instancing (HGL instancing was better since they don't crash every 3hrs)

I list everything that failed in this game but if you like it its your opinion but don't say it was under rated because it certainly was not!

dnuggs40

You talking about HG:L instancing now, or when it was released (like AoC currently is)?

Now of course. HGL suffered the same effect as AoC (Memory Leaks etc.) But eventually its fixed and is pretty stable.

As of now AoC is following up on HGLs path, and wouldn't be surprised if AoC was bought out by SOE or something....

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="modai119"]

Under rated? Not likely

Overrated and hyped up the *? Hell yea

Do you even know what the term under-rated means? When AoC was in development the whole game was marketed like Halo 3 (Thanks to Microsoft) By the time the game released and the first 80s came out, there was NOTHING. It may or may not be good now but first impressions are really important for anything. They lost my $15 sub after a shaft from CE rewards, invisible npcs and players, and instancing (HGL instancing was better since they don't crash every 3hrs)

I list everything that failed in this game but if you like it its your opinion but don't say it was under rated because it certainly was not!

modai119

You talking about HG:L instancing now, or when it was released (like AoC currently is)?

Now of course. HGL suffered the same effect as AoC (Memory Leaks etc.) But eventually its fixed and is pretty stable.

As of now AoC is following up on HGLs path, and wouldn't be surprised if AoC was bought out by SOE or something....

Ya, I agree. It's just a feeling based on observations of course, but what's happening with AoC seems so similar to HG:L.

i think its funny how AoC had 500,000 subscribers two weeks after launch and 40% of those left. lotro which was not hyped up even the tiniest bit still stands strong with 300,000-400,000 subscriptions right now(and they're not all chinese gold farmers like in everquest and lineage) and it is still growing and the expansion is due soon. i'm glad that at least one mmo hasn't been totally destroyed by wow. WAR will be fun, but im sensing a pre-mature launch that will fare no better than aoc. i guess i just have to wait until the old republic comes out because the only thing that can top wow is a universe that everyone knows, and what better than star wars to turn the tide of blizzards dominance?shakmaster13

BWHAHA, where is the proof to these "So Called" figures? Someone pulling figures out of thin air.

I was the 3rd on my server to reach level 80 on AoC. And I can tell you end-game is a joke, and is very broken. I won't be checking this game out again for another 6 months. I've had such a bad time with all the bugs lack of content and other things that I don't want to login anymore (I still have an active subscription and I do still login to check patches so don't tell me things have changed, I know they havent)

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

As soon as AoC patches up a few more things, I'm definitely getting this game. I'm not going to be swayed by a few vocal naysayers.

I'd much rather play AoC than WoW.

AFBrat77

By a few? .... its not a few, this is the reality.

And your saying that considering you havnt even played it? Great Logic.

I'll go by the GS reviewer thank you. He said personally in a thread, that with a few patches the game will be the best MMRPG to date....and I think it will be.

Reality? thats doubtfull, only your opinion. I've seen people in here constantly trash GW, when I think its an excellent game.

Its the population of the game dwindeling away, its the poor way the game works, its the company going under.

GS Reviewer? What credibility does he have that we dont? He gave probably the highest review for it in the industry , because the average is 81%.

"Potential to be one of the best MMO's" ... yea and they blew it.

Its almost as bad as the World of Warcraft "Virtually removes the grind" :lol:.

Reviewers are hyped and like anyone else. he didnt even play to 80.

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

As soon as AoC patches up a few more things, I'm definitely getting this game. I'm not going to be swayed by a few vocal naysayers.

I'd much rather play AoC than WoW.

PC360Wii

By a few? .... its not a few, this is the reality.

And your saying that considering you havnt even played it? Great Logic.

I'll go by the GS reviewer thank you. He said personally in a thread, that with a few patches the game will be the best MMRPG to date....and I think it will be.

Reality? thats doubtfull, only your opinion. I've seen people in here constantly trash GW, when I think its an excellent game.

Its the population of the game dwindeling away, its the poor way the game works, its the company going under.

GS Reviewer? What credibility does he have that we dont? He gave probably the highest review for it in the industry , because the average is 81%.

"Potential to be one of the best MMO's" ... yea and they blew it.

Its almost as bad as the World of Warcraft "Virtually removes the grind" :lol:.

Reviewers are hyped and like anyone else. he didnt even play to 80.

Still waiting for PROOF of these dwindling numbers.

Doesnt take a genius to work out, that if your stock value has halfed, your not getting nearly as many subscribers who actually bought the game.

That 750ksales? where did they go? Monthly subscriptions should greatly improve thier revanue and stock value, BUT OH WAIT... turns out most MMO fans, including me, decieded the game was too BROKEN to pay after the trial ended.

Type, I meant 750k not a million :P

LOL...I don't even care to argue the point, it's just funny the same EXACT arguments are being used against the "dwindling numbers".

I swear, this is HG:L all over again.

Doesnt take a genius to work out, that if your stock value has halfed, your not getting nearly as many subscribers who actually bought the game.

That 750 million sales? where did they go? Monthly subscriptions should greatly improve thier revanue and stock value, BUT OH WAIT... turns out most MMO fans, including me, decieded the game was too BROKEN to pay after the trial ended.

PC360Wii

Dude, read the whole post, we already told you that the stock market or the equity of a company dosent move in line with game sales...there are TONS of other factors out there...AGAIN, look at Take two performance and the SALES OF 5m OF GTA4... the correlation is not there...

Also it is FUNNY how some people critize the game because "two weeks after lunch I was level 80 and there was no content after that"... I mean , do you expect an MMO that has just been launched to have infinite content you reach level 80 TWO WEEKS AFTER BEING LAUNCH? Imagine you were level 80 (or whatever the limit was...) in WOW 15 days after it was launch...I bet you the content there rerally sucked cause there was not even PvP... give Funcom some more time, they are doing a good job with the patches and the game is much more stable now...then they will add more content...in the meantime, I take it easy, level slowly enjoying the game and I try different classes (so far I have a ranger, a bear shaman and a necromancer...it rocks). It is funny how all the Wow-boys try to spit at any other MMO that is launched, I think there is enough room for 3 or 4 MMOs, that market is huge

Doesnt take a genius to work out, that if your stock value has halfed, your not getting nearly as many subscribers who actually bought the game.

That 750ksales? where did they go? Monthly subscriptions should greatly improve thier revanue and stock value, BUT OH WAIT... turns out most MMO fans, including me, decieded the game was too BROKEN to pay after the trial ended.

Type, I meant 750k not a million :P

PC360Wii

Welcome to page one, and this tutorial on how to prove you have ZERO understanding of the stock market.

Case in point, with RECORD BREAKING sales of GTA IV, Take 2's stock has still dropped. Sigh, read the damn thread.

LOL...I don't even care to argue the point, it's just funny the same EXACT arguments are being used against the "dwindling numbers".

I swear, this is HG:L all over again.

dnuggs40

But, HGL is actually pretty good now (My drone doesn't eat my guns anymore yay!!!) I actually started playing this again and having a blast after the truckload of nerfs/fails patches Funcom decided to dish out... Too bad FSS screwed up big time with NA/Europe leaving bad impression of the game being unplayable and dull.

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Doesnt take a genius to work out, that if your stock value has halfed, your not getting nearly as many subscribers who actually bought the game.

That 750 million sales? where did they go? Monthly subscriptions should greatly improve thier revanue and stock value, BUT OH WAIT... turns out most MMO fans, including me, decieded the game was too BROKEN to pay after the trial ended.

MotherRussia

Dude, read the whole post, we already told you that the stock market or the equity of a company dosent move in line with game sales...there are TONS of other factors out there...AGAIN, look at Take two performance and the SALES OF 5m OF GTA4... the correlation is not there...

Also it is FUNNY how some people critize the game because "two weeks after lunch I was level 80 and there was no content after that"... I mean , do you expect an MMO that has just been launched to have infinite content you reach level 80 TWO WEEKS AFTER BEING LAUNCH? Imagine you were level 80 (or whatever the limit was...) in WOW 15 days after it was launch...I bet you the content there rerally sucked cause there was not even PvP... give Funcom some more time, they are doing a good job with the patches and the game is much more stable now...then they will add more content...in the meantime, I take it easy, level slowly enjoying the game and I try different classes (so far I have a ranger, a bear shaman and a necromancer...it rocks). It is funny how all the Wow-boys try to spit at any other MMO that is launched, I think there is enough room for 3 or 4 MMOs, that market is huge

"Some more time" are you aware that its been a few months now? and for the record i was not 80.

WoW did have PvP on release.... it wasnt "zomg stick you in a sandbox and accumalate score" it was city raids, as it should always have been.

Honour came in 2-3 months later yes, and battlegrounds.

At elast WoW has all its endgame instances done and plenty to do.

"They will add new content, they will make it better" When? and how? How are thye going to make Raiding difficult? With a freaking healerless ( to the extent of dedicated to healing ) class system, where there is no movement calculation its based on physics, making bosses buggy/abusable/childsplay.

The game, should never of released even in its CURRENT condition, it was done, and its still broken.

As for stocks, well I cant prove im right, and you cant prove your right, its all theory.

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LOL...I don't even care to argue the point, it's just funny the same EXACT arguments are being used against the "dwindling numbers".

I swear, this is HG:L all over again.

modai119

But, HGL is actually pretty good now (My drone doesn't eat my guns anymore yay!!!) I actually started playing this again and having a blast after the truckload of nerfs/fails patches Funcom decided to dish out... Too bad FSS screwed up big time with NA/Europe leaving bad impression of the game being unplayable and dull.

It's much improved, agreed. And 2.0 looked really good as well...too little too late though. Sucks too...HG:L was really one of my most anticipated games of 2007.

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As soon as AoC patches up a few more things, I'm definitely getting this game. I'm not going to be swayed by a few vocal naysayers.

I'd much rather play AoC than WoW.

PC360Wii

By a few? .... its not a few, this is the reality.

And your saying that considering you havnt even played it? Great Logic.

I'll go by the GS reviewer thank you. He said personally in a thread, that with a few patches the game will be the best MMRPG to date....and I think it will be.

Reality? thats doubtfull, only your opinion. I've seen people in here constantly trash GW, when I think its an excellent game.

Its the population of the game dwindeling away, its the poor way the game works, its the company going under.

GS Reviewer? What credibility does he have that we dont? He gave probably the highest review for it in the industry , because the average is 81%.

"Potential to be one of the best MMO's" ... yea and they blew it.

Its almost as bad as the World of Warcraft "Virtually removes the grind" :lol:.

Reviewers are hyped and like anyone else. he didnt even play to 80.

Well, like i said as soon as they patch some things up, I'll get the game. If they don't make significant patches, I won't. Simple as that.

The game has a great premise, especially for a Robert E. Howard fan like myself. We'll see if they finish it up to greatness.

Its a very good game, and i also like how Funcom has stayed commited to making changes and adding content.

Awesome game imo!

Its a very good game, and i also like how Funcom has stayed commited to making changes and adding content.

Awesome game imo!

kozzy1234

Funcom's commitment is trash.

Notice they have decreased the number of patches?

Notice how instead of working on actual bugs they are fixing " your hair now shows up as it's actual color!Your Welcome!~"

Its a very good game, and i also like how Funcom has stayed commited to making changes and adding content.

Awesome game imo!

kozzy1234

The game is awesome, I just hope people dont believe the haters and give it a try... Also, noone was able to proof with REAL FIGURES that Funcom or AoC is going down in suscribers, they have proof nothing except that it is tough for them to relaise that WoW will be surpass in terms of gameplay... They will continue to HATE any other MMO that comes to the market just becuase in their dirty small minds they have to be sure that WOW is the BEST THING ON EARTH and that they are not devoting their hours and lives to a second class game full of casual gamers with a 4 year old graphic engine...

My comments had nothing to do with being a "hater", nor does it have anything to do with WoW. I haven't played WoW for over two years. I was very excited for AoC in fact...and I even enjoyed the heck out of it until around level 60...and that's where the issues start really becomming apparent.

Take that how you want to...

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Its a very good game, and i also like how Funcom has stayed commited to making changes and adding content.

Awesome game imo!

MotherRussia

The game is awesome, I just hope people dont believe the haters and give it a try... Also, noone was able to proof with REAL FIGURES that Funcom or AoC is going down in suscribers, they have proof nothing except that it is tough for them to relaise that WoW will be surpass in terms of gameplay... They will continue to HATE any other MMO that comes to the market just becuase in their dirty small minds they have to be sure that WOW is the BEST THING ON EARTH and that they are not devoting their hours and lives to a second class game full of casual gamers with a 4 year old graphic engine...

It seems like us "haters" have all played the game though and giot pass a 38 ranger-_-

If you werent prepared for this you shouldnt of started this thread.I think your just a fanboy that won't listen to others opinions without classifying us has haters or whiners

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Its a very good game, and i also like how Funcom has stayed commited to making changes and adding content.

Awesome game imo!

MotherRussia

The game is awesome, I just hope people dont believe the haters and give it a try... Also, noone was able to proof with REAL FIGURES that Funcom or AoC is going down in suscribers, they have proof nothing except that it is tough for them to relaise that WoW will be surpass in terms of gameplay... They will continue to HATE any other MMO that comes to the market just becuase in their dirty small minds they have to be sure that WOW is the BEST THING ON EARTH and that they are not devoting their hours and lives to a second class game full of casual gamers with a 4 year old graphic engine...

Yes, everyone who disagrees is a hater :roll: ... the game is not underated, the score was generous.

I'll say number of topics/replies in the AoC thread speaks for themselves. When it launched if you made a topic and no one replied it'll be on page 3 in 5mins. Theres STILL topics about "I'm quitting!" "GIVING AWAY FREE ITEMS!" etc etc. 2/3s of my guild left this game because sieges were broken and there was absolutely NOTHING to do (unless your into pking) with no rewards to PvP. Funcom will not reveal their numbers because they know the game fell flat on its * like Vanguard. You think the server is populated because its instanced. Have you ever checked the little button near your map, how many instances are there?

I was fed up when I couldn't see who the hell was attacking me until I have a quarter of my HP left (NO it wasn't a range class attacking) Then assassins being completely broken since all other profs can stealth, survive longer, AND have more area attacks and CC. Funcom promised too much and failed to deliver thats that.

I guessed if you rolled a Ranger Barb or any type of priest you would say its fun but for DTs Conqs Guardians and the rest of us it kinda sucks. Only thing I think is good. The first 20 levels are fun and immersive. But once you get out of Tortage it all ends.

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I never said quality, I said failure, re-read my post, a game that is a financial success, cannot be called a failure can it, that's what gaming is, a business. Simple concept.

SEANMCAD

In the context of this conversation financial success of a game doesn't mean D**k. At least in my view.

A terrible game can still be a huge success in the market place and I personally dont care about the success of a game in that context

wait a minute why are you quoting things I never said???The person that said that quote is the AoC fanboy.Not me