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#101 lostrib
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Macs are good, they're just overpriced.

If they sold only the OS and let you use your own hardware I'd go with osx every time.

mrbojangles25

is there any reason they dont?

It only works on certain hardware, and the current OSX mountain lion is only sold in the Mac App Store.  It's called a hackintosh for a reason

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You know what they say. if you buy a mac you must be on *****

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Well I didn't want to judge from the start, but this thread turned out to be exactly what I thought it would. "Hey guys, I jumped ship, payed $2000 for a mac because I got use to exclusive software through school/freind/family and I am now convinced this was a good choice, so I will no aggressively defend my purchase." What specs are your iMac anyway? Crysis 3 on max 30 FPS? "yea sure" I have used bootcamp myself back in college with their titanic 30' imacs and the performance is NOT equal to windows. Especially in the world of games, but its not a massive drop. $2000 for 2 pieces of software and Crysis 3 at 30FPS will not impress anyone here. "$800 dollars worth of components" BS.... an i7 is pretty standard pricing now, RAM is irrelevantly cheap and I bet the graphics card is mediocre...... none of which would be able to overclock well in comparison.
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Playing games on a Mac makes no sense.

Cyberdot
Nonsense. Mac might not have EVERY game out there but it has a vast list. If you buy a Mac you can easily game on it without spending extra money for Windows. Like I said though, just not EVERY game out there.
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Well I didn't want to judge from the start, but this thread turned out to be exactly what I thought it would. "Hey guys, I jumped ship, payed $2000 for a mac because I got use to exclusive software through school/freind/family and I am now convinced this was a good choice, so I will no aggressively defend my purchase." What specs are your iMac anyway? Crysis 3 on max 30 FPS? "yea sure" I have used bootcamp myself back in college with their titanic 30' imacs and the performance is NOT equal to windows. Especially in the world of games, but its not a massive drop. $2000 for 2 pieces of software and Crysis 3 at 30FPS will not impress anyone here. "$800 dollars worth of components" BS.... an i7 is pretty standard pricing now, RAM is irrelevantly cheap and I bet the graphics card is mediocre...... none of which would be able to overclock well in comparison.MBirdy88

 

I'm not agressively defending it, I've just been getting on to different points because people are trying to argue about why its a bad purchase when they know little about it.

Do you know what percentage of the music industry uses Macs? Do you know how many use Logic? It is the latest and greatest and will soon become the biggest thing in music production. Why use anything else?9

I Listed my iMac specs, i5 3.2, 8gb ram, gtx 675mx, and yes I made a mistake I was running Crysis 3 with settings on high (very high textures) at 1440p on my iMac display. It was the original crysis that I ran all maxed, used the wrong word.

I have noticed little to no performance difference between my mac and similarly built PC's (that I made for my friends)

It wouldnt cost 800 eh? let me build it quick...

GTX 660 ti(rough equiv. to GTX 675mx): http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500268  --299

Intel i5 3.2:  http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234  --199

1tb hard drive: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136939  --100

8gb ram 1600mhz: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186  -- 50

Dude thats 650 bucks, no motherboard or case even included BEFORE tax, with tax it is already 800. Plus this isnt some random plastic case, its an ultra-slim aluminum package which is almost worth it on its own because I have no room for a tower in my home studio.

I don't need anything to overclock. My Mac runs everything perfectly and makes my music the way I want it. I couldn't be happier.

and FYI smart***, I didnt say it could run crysis to impress anyone or prove it was the best gaming machine. THIS IS A DAM MAC THAT CAN RUN ANY GAME. That was the point.

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Well I didn't want to judge from the start, but this thread turned out to be exactly what I thought it would. "Hey guys, I jumped ship, payed $2000 for a mac because I got use to exclusive software through school/freind/family and I am now convinced this was a good choice, so I will no aggressively defend my purchase." What specs are your iMac anyway? Crysis 3 on max 30 FPS? "yea sure" I have used bootcamp myself back in college with their titanic 30' imacs and the performance is NOT equal to windows. Especially in the world of games, but its not a massive drop. $2000 for 2 pieces of software and Crysis 3 at 30FPS will not impress anyone here. "$800 dollars worth of components" BS.... an i7 is pretty standard pricing now, RAM is irrelevantly cheap and I bet the graphics card is mediocre...... none of which would be able to overclock well in comparison.Crypt_mx

 

I'm not agressively defending it, I've just been getting on to different points because people are trying to argue about why its a bad purchase when they know little about it.

Do you know what percentage of the music industry uses Macs? Do you know how many use Logic? It is the latest and greatest and will soon become the biggest thing in music production. Why use anything else?9

I Listed my iMac specs, i5 3.2, 8gb ram, gtx 675mx, and yes I made a mistake I was running Crysis 3 with settings on high (very high textures) at 1440p on my iMac display. It was the original crysis that I ran all maxed, used the wrong word.

I have noticed little to no performance difference between my mac and similarly built PC's (that I made for my friends)

It wouldnt cost 800 eh? let me build it quick...

GTX 660 ti(rough equiv. to GTX 675mx): http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500268  --299

Intel i5 3.2:  http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234  --199

1tb hard drive: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136939  --100

8gb ram 1600mhz: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186  -- 50

Dude thats 650 bucks, no motherboard or case even included BEFORE tax, with tax it is already 800. Plus this isnt some random plastic case, its an ultra-slim aluminum package which is almost worth it on its own because I have no room for a tower in my home studio.

I don't need anything to overclock. My Mac runs everything perfectly and makes my music the way I want it. I couldn't be happier.

and FYI smart***, I didnt say it could run crysis to impress anyone or prove it was the best gaming machine. THIS IS A DAM MAC THAT CAN RUN ANY GAME. That was the point.

I don't have anything against apple products.  I actually like them but, your way off on the GTX 675 MX.  It's more comparable to a regular 560 GTX which is around $160.  Newegg has an EVGA one that is out of stock but, went for $139.99.  You are basically paying for the small size of the video card that would of been in a laptop.

http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+675MX/compare

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Well I didn't want to judge from the start, but this thread turned out to be exactly what I thought it would. "Hey guys, I jumped ship, payed $2000 for a mac because I got use to exclusive software through school/freind/family and I am now convinced this was a good choice, so I will no aggressively defend my purchase." What specs are your iMac anyway? Crysis 3 on max 30 FPS? "yea sure" I have used bootcamp myself back in college with their titanic 30' imacs and the performance is NOT equal to windows. Especially in the world of games, but its not a massive drop. $2000 for 2 pieces of software and Crysis 3 at 30FPS will not impress anyone here. "$800 dollars worth of components" BS.... an i7 is pretty standard pricing now, RAM is irrelevantly cheap and I bet the graphics card is mediocre...... none of which would be able to overclock well in comparison.sleepingzzz

I'm not agressively defending it, I've just been getting on to different points because people are trying to argue about why its a bad purchase when they know little about it.

Do you know what percentage of the music industry uses Macs? Do you know how many use Logic? It is the latest and greatest and will soon become the biggest thing in music production. Why use anything else?9

I Listed my iMac specs, i5 3.2, 8gb ram, gtx 675mx, and yes I made a mistake I was running Crysis 3 with settings on high (very high textures) at 1440p on my iMac display. It was the original crysis that I ran all maxed, used the wrong word.

I have noticed little to no performance difference between my mac and similarly built PC's (that I made for my friends)

It wouldnt cost 800 eh? let me build it quick...

GTX 660 ti(rough equiv. to GTX 675mx): http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500268 --299

Intel i5 3.2: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234 --199

1tb hard drive: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136939 --100

8gb ram 1600mhz: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186 -- 50

Dude thats 650 bucks, no motherboard or case even included BEFORE tax, with tax it is already 800. Plus this isnt some random plastic case, its an ultra-slim aluminum package which is almost worth it on its own because I have no room for a tower in my home studio.

I don't need anything to overclock. My Mac runs everything perfectly and makes my music the way I want it. I couldn't be happier.

and FYI smart***, I didnt say it could run crysis to impress anyone or prove it was the best gaming machine. THIS IS A DAM MAC THAT CAN RUN ANY GAME. That was the point.

I don't have anything against apple products. I actually like them but, your way off on the GTX 675 MX. It's more comparable to a regular 560 GTX which is around $160. Newegg has an EVGA one that is out of stock but, went for $139.99. You are basically paying for the small size of the video card that would of been in a laptop.

http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+675MX/compare

No, I'm not way off. Futuremark is innacurate. Notebookcheck has the GTX 675mx getting 40fps on all high settings in crysis 3.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-675MX.82580.0.html

meanwhile these Crysis 3 benchmarks show it comparing to...what gpu? The 660.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-5.html

The GTX 675mx benches alongside the 660 and 660ti in every game. Look it up.

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Well I didn't want to judge from the start, but this thread turned out to be exactly what I thought it would. "Hey guys, I jumped ship, payed $2000 for a mac because I got use to exclusive software through school/freind/family and I am now convinced this was a good choice, so I will no aggressively defend my purchase." What specs are your iMac anyway? Crysis 3 on max 30 FPS? "yea sure" I have used bootcamp myself back in college with their titanic 30' imacs and the performance is NOT equal to windows. Especially in the world of games, but its not a massive drop. $2000 for 2 pieces of software and Crysis 3 at 30FPS will not impress anyone here. "$800 dollars worth of components" BS.... an i7 is pretty standard pricing now, RAM is irrelevantly cheap and I bet the graphics card is mediocre...... none of which would be able to overclock well in comparison.Crypt_mx

 

I'm not agressively defending it, I've just been getting on to different points because people are trying to argue about why its a bad purchase when they know little about it.

Do you know what percentage of the music industry uses Macs? Do you know how many use Logic? It is the latest and greatest and will soon become the biggest thing in music production. Why use anything else?9

I Listed my iMac specs, i5 3.2, 8gb ram, gtx 675mx, and yes I made a mistake I was running Crysis 3 with settings on high (very high textures) at 1440p on my iMac display. It was the original crysis that I ran all maxed, used the wrong word.

I have noticed little to no performance difference between my mac and similarly built PC's (that I made for my friends)

It wouldnt cost 800 eh? let me build it quick...

GTX 660 ti(rough equiv. to GTX 675mx): http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500268  --299

Intel i5 3.2:  http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234  --199

1tb hard drive: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136939  --100

8gb ram 1600mhz: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186  -- 50

Dude thats 650 bucks, no motherboard or case even included BEFORE tax, with tax it is already 800. Plus this isnt some random plastic case, its an ultra-slim aluminum package which is almost worth it on its own because I have no room for a tower in my home studio.

I don't need anything to overclock. My Mac runs everything perfectly and makes my music the way I want it. I couldn't be happier.

and FYI smart***, I didnt say it could run crysis to impress anyone or prove it was the best gaming machine. THIS IS A DAM MAC THAT CAN RUN ANY GAME. That was the point.

Most people know that macs can run games, but obviously a custom built PC that cost equal or less than that iMac can run games better; hence, don't buy macs if your sole purpose is gaming

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[QUOTE="sleepingzzz"]

[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

 

I'm not agressively defending it, I've just been getting on to different points because people are trying to argue about why its a bad purchase when they know little about it.

Do you know what percentage of the music industry uses Macs? Do you know how many use Logic? It is the latest and greatest and will soon become the biggest thing in music production. Why use anything else?9

I Listed my iMac specs, i5 3.2, 8gb ram, gtx 675mx, and yes I made a mistake I was running Crysis 3 with settings on high (very high textures) at 1440p on my iMac display. It was the original crysis that I ran all maxed, used the wrong word.

I have noticed little to no performance difference between my mac and similarly built PC's (that I made for my friends)

It wouldnt cost 800 eh? let me build it quick...

GTX 660 ti(rough equiv. to GTX 675mx): http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500268 --299

Intel i5 3.2: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234 --199

1tb hard drive: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136939 --100

8gb ram 1600mhz: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186 -- 50

Dude thats 650 bucks, no motherboard or case even included BEFORE tax, with tax it is already 800. Plus this isnt some random plastic case, its an ultra-slim aluminum package which is almost worth it on its own because I have no room for a tower in my home studio.

I don't need anything to overclock. My Mac runs everything perfectly and makes my music the way I want it. I couldn't be happier.

and FYI smart***, I didnt say it could run crysis to impress anyone or prove it was the best gaming machine. THIS IS A DAM MAC THAT CAN RUN ANY GAME. That was the point.

Crypt_mx

I don't have anything against apple products. I actually like them but, your way off on the GTX 675 MX. It's more comparable to a regular 560 GTX which is around $160. Newegg has an EVGA one that is out of stock but, went for $139.99. You are basically paying for the small size of the video card that would of been in a laptop.

http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+675MX/compare

 

No, I'm not way off. Futuremark is innacurate. Notebookcheck has the GTX 675mx getting 40fps on all high settings in crysis 3.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-675MX.82580.0.html

meanwhile these Crysis 3 benchmarks show it comparing to...what gpu? The 660.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-5.html

The GTX 675mx benches alongside the 660 and 660ti in every game. Look it up.

 

 

Those arent comparable benchmarks, the 675mx is using 1366x768 with fxaa, the 660 gets above 40fps at 1080p.

At least try to read the sources you cite

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Playing games on a Mac makes no sense.

FelipeInside

Nonsense. Mac might not have EVERY game out there but it has a vast list. If you buy a Mac you can easily game on it without spending extra money for Windows. Like I said though, just not EVERY game out there.

 

I'll fix it:

 

"Buying a mac for games makes no sense"

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Playing games on a Mac makes no sense.

wis3boi

Nonsense. Mac might not have EVERY game out there but it has a vast list. If you buy a Mac you can easily game on it without spending extra money for Windows. Like I said though, just not EVERY game out there.

 

I'll fix it:

 

"Buying a mac for games makes no sense"

"Buying a mac for games makes no sense" THAT I agree with totally. If your MAIN purpose is gaming then a PC or Console is the way to go. If you want/need/bought a Mac but want to also game, it is available as well.
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should just get alienware: http://alienware.com/ top high end models or can even customize your top end quality pc their. Their technology is better than mac and the best

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should just get alienware: http://alienware.com/ top high end models or can even customize your top end quality pc their. Their technology is better than mac and the best

Bieberfan147
Word. Would be a lot better for creative work as well. That reminds me, do Macs still lack the system option to turn off mouse acceleration? Possibly the least helpful thing you could have when manipulating Photoshop with a mouse...
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should just get alienware: http://alienware.com/ top high end models or can even customize your top end quality pc their. Their technology is better than mac and the best

Bieberfan147

Please stop, in case some fool actually believes you

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[QUOTE="sleepingzzz"]

[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

 

I'm not agressively defending it, I've just been getting on to different points because people are trying to argue about why its a bad purchase when they know little about it.

Do you know what percentage of the music industry uses Macs? Do you know how many use Logic? It is the latest and greatest and will soon become the biggest thing in music production. Why use anything else?9

I Listed my iMac specs, i5 3.2, 8gb ram, gtx 675mx, and yes I made a mistake I was running Crysis 3 with settings on high (very high textures) at 1440p on my iMac display. It was the original crysis that I ran all maxed, used the wrong word.

I have noticed little to no performance difference between my mac and similarly built PC's (that I made for my friends)

It wouldnt cost 800 eh? let me build it quick...

GTX 660 ti(rough equiv. to GTX 675mx): http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500268 --299

Intel i5 3.2: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234 --199

1tb hard drive: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136939 --100

8gb ram 1600mhz: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186 -- 50

Dude thats 650 bucks, no motherboard or case even included BEFORE tax, with tax it is already 800. Plus this isnt some random plastic case, its an ultra-slim aluminum package which is almost worth it on its own because I have no room for a tower in my home studio.

I don't need anything to overclock. My Mac runs everything perfectly and makes my music the way I want it. I couldn't be happier.

and FYI smart***, I didnt say it could run crysis to impress anyone or prove it was the best gaming machine. THIS IS A DAM MAC THAT CAN RUN ANY GAME. That was the point.

Crypt_mx

I don't have anything against apple products. I actually like them but, your way off on the GTX 675 MX. It's more comparable to a regular 560 GTX which is around $160. Newegg has an EVGA one that is out of stock but, went for $139.99. You are basically paying for the small size of the video card that would of been in a laptop.

http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+675MX/compare

 

No, I'm not way off. Futuremark is innacurate. Notebookcheck has the GTX 675mx getting 40fps on all high settings in crysis 3.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-675MX.82580.0.html

meanwhile these Crysis 3 benchmarks show it comparing to...what gpu? The 660.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-5.html

The GTX 675mx benches alongside the 660 and 660ti in every game. Look it up.

 

Umm... were you trying to prove my point?  Your sources show the gtx 675mx getting 16 fps on ultra in crysis 3.  The 660TI doesn't dip below 33 fps on ultra.

Edit:  Opps read that wrong myself.  660TI 33 fps on high with 1920 x 1080 while 675mx is getting 40 fps with 1366 x768.  I hope you set your monitor to a better resolution than that other wise you're wasting that 27 inch.

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should just get alienware: http://alienware.com/ top high end models or can even customize your top end quality pc their. Their technology is better than mac and the best

lostrib

Please stop, in case some fool actually believes you

If value wasn't a huge factor, such as the OP's case where brand recognition and software familiarity was the most important factor in his purchase decision, Alienware wouldn't be the worst choice. Their computers are pretty damn fast. You also get to be that guy who brags about his Alienware. :P

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Bieberfan147"]

should just get alienware: http://alienware.com/ top high end models or can even customize your top end quality pc their. Their technology is better than mac and the best

KHAndAnime

Please stop, in case some fool actually believes you

If value wasn't a huge factor, such as the OP's case where brand recognition and software familiarity was the most important factor in his purchase decision, Alienware wouldn't be the worst choice. Their computers are pretty damn fast. You also get to be that guy who brags about his Alienware. :P

Maybe but Alienware PCs aren't what they used to be (since Dell took over and started using cheaper parts).

They are still good PCs, but same with MAC, overpriced and not built as well as before.

EDIT: and it's hard to brag with an Alienware since most knowledgable people would call you stupid since they build the same PC (or better) for a much lower price.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Bieberfan147"]

should just get alienware: http://alienware.com/ top high end models or can even customize your top end quality pc their. Their technology is better than mac and the best

KHAndAnime

Please stop, in case some fool actually believes you

If value wasn't a huge factor, such as the OP's case where brand recognition and software familiarity was the most important factor in his purchase decision, Alienware wouldn't be the worst choice. Their computers are pretty damn fast. You also get to be that guy who brags about his Alienware. :P

But claiming that their "technology" is the best is just asinine

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[QUOTE="sleepingzzz"]

I don't have anything against apple products. I actually like them but, your way off on the GTX 675 MX. It's more comparable to a regular 560 GTX which is around $160. Newegg has an EVGA one that is out of stock but, went for $139.99. You are basically paying for the small size of the video card that would of been in a laptop.

http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+675MX/compare

sleepingzzz

 

No, I'm not way off. Futuremark is innacurate. Notebookcheck has the GTX 675mx getting 40fps on all high settings in crysis 3.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-675MX.82580.0.html

meanwhile these Crysis 3 benchmarks show it comparing to...what gpu? The 660.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-5.html

The GTX 675mx benches alongside the 660 and 660ti in every game. Look it up.

 

Umm... were you trying to prove my point?  Your sources show the gtx 675mx getting 16 fps on ultra in crysis 3.  The 660TI doesn't dip below 33 fps on ultra.

Edit:  Opps read that wrong myself.  660TI 33 fps on high with 1920 x 1080 while 675mx is getting 40 fps with 1366 x768.  I hope you set your monitor to a better resolution than that other wise you're wasting that 27 inch.

 

My buddy has a 660 ti and he needs to knock a few settings down to play over 30fps all the time. Either way im talking about real world performance, performance im seeing with my own eyes. The gtx 675mx has to at least be equal to a 560ti, because that is what my old gaming PC used to have. On my iMac I am getting very similar performance, but on a higher res screen. Im not hallucinating because i spent more money on a mac lol, this is real talk.

also I was in a rush so i didnt read that those benchmarks where not comparable.

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#120 vfibsux
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Playing games on a Mac makes no sense.

FelipeInside

Nonsense. Mac might not have EVERY game out there but it has a vast list. If you buy a Mac you can easily game on it without spending extra money for Windows. Like I said though, just not EVERY game out there.

Again Felipe.......why bother? I am waiting for someone to tell me why, as a gamer, you would choose a Mac over a PC. Dollar for dollar the Mac just cannot compare.

 

I don't understand why this argument has gone 3 pages now, seems pretty simple to me. I don't care if a Mac could play 100% of the PC games out there, there is still no point in having one over a PC.

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#121 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Playing games on a Mac makes no sense.

vfibsux

Nonsense. Mac might not have EVERY game out there but it has a vast list. If you buy a Mac you can easily game on it without spending extra money for Windows. Like I said though, just not EVERY game out there.

Again Felipe.......why bother? I am waiting for someone to tell me why, as a gamer, you would choose a Mac over a PC. Dollar for dollar the Mac just cannot compare.

 

I don't understand why this argument has gone 3 pages now, seems pretty simple to me. I don't care if a Mac could play 100% of the PC games out there, there is still no point in having one over a PC.

...and where did I say as a gamer one should choose a Mac? Exactly, no where. Also read my post after that one instead of just reading random ones.
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#122 Geminon
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you could have built a far better PC, and gotten some really powerful audio/music software for that price... garage band is not what people make professional music on.....

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#123 lostrib
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[QUOTE="sleepingzzz"]

[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

 

No, I'm not way off. Futuremark is innacurate. Notebookcheck has the GTX 675mx getting 40fps on all high settings in crysis 3.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-675MX.82580.0.html

meanwhile these Crysis 3 benchmarks show it comparing to...what gpu? The 660.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-5.html

The GTX 675mx benches alongside the 660 and 660ti in every game. Look it up.

Crypt_mx

 

Umm... were you trying to prove my point?  Your sources show the gtx 675mx getting 16 fps on ultra in crysis 3.  The 660TI doesn't dip below 33 fps on ultra.

Edit:  Opps read that wrong myself.  660TI 33 fps on high with 1920 x 1080 while 675mx is getting 40 fps with 1366 x768.  I hope you set your monitor to a better resolution than that other wise you're wasting that 27 inch.

 

My buddy has a 660 ti and he needs to knock a few settings down to play over 30fps all the time. Either way im talking about real world performance, performance im seeing with my own eyes. The gtx 675mx has to at least be equal to a 560ti, because that is what my old gaming PC used to have. On my iMac I am getting very similar performance, but on a higher res screen. Im not hallucinating because i spent more money on a mac lol, this is real talk.

also I was in a rush so i didnt read that those benchmarks where not comparable.

Um that's what he said originally that it is relative to around a GTX 560 not a 660ti, which you claimed

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#124 yonyz
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I don't see the point in comparing iMacs to Windows PCs. Windows PCs have a huge case you need to place somewhere which big components and all that, and an iMac takes up much less space, has a top notch display and even decent speakers, and is almost completely wire-less. You pay more for that and get less speed, and almost no upgrade-ability at all. It's a matter of which is more important to you. I wouldn't put a Windows PC with a big case in a living room, for example. Then again, I wouldn't buy an iMac for gaming purposes, at least not primarily for gaming. As for Macbooks vs. Windows laptops/notebooks/ultrabooks, no single Windows laptop has the kind of trackpad hardware and software a Macbook has. I can't stand Windows laptops without a mouse, and that makes them useless at school for example, where you have no place for the mouse during classes. Some PC laptops have good-quality trackpad HARDWARE, but Windows lacks many useful gestures OSX has, and the drivers tend to suck to the point of erratic pointer behavior - the most basic thing in a trackpad. But again, gaming wise, Macbooks don't cut it.
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I don't see the point in comparing iMacs to Windows PCs. Windows PCs have a huge case you need to place somewhere which big components and all that, and an iMac takes up much less space yonyz

Thinking before posting is usually a good idea

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#126 FelipeInside
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Windows PCs have a huge case you need to place somewhere which big components and all that, and an iMac takes up much less space, has a top notch display and even decent speakers, and is almost completely wire-less.  yonyz

 

ehhhh.....

s

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[QUOTE="yonyz"]Windows PCs have a huge case you need to place somewhere which big components and all that, and an iMac takes up much less space, has a top notch display and even decent speakers, and is almost completely wire-less. FelipeInside

ehhhh.....

s

Not only is it ugly, but that only has a regular 1080p screen if im not mistaken. The new iMacs are 1440p.

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#128 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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I don't know the percentage of the music industry that uses macs no. But I see the droves of college students especially in most computer based art courses are all using macs despite not using unique software to the platform because its "Trend and makes you look more professional" hella woman I work with's oldest daughter is going to college*UK) communitycollegeUS) for Photography and are saying a Macbook is a REQUIREMENT. how bloody obsurd is that. Asking parents of college students to pay £700+ (thats with what 25% student discount) just to do photo editing ect.... it fkin ridiculous and a load of trending crap.
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#129 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="yonyz"]Windows PCs have a huge case you need to place somewhere which big components and all that, and an iMac takes up much less space, has a top notch display and even decent speakers, and is almost completely wire-less. Crypt_mx

ehhhh.....

s

Not only is it ugly, but that only has a regular 1080p screen if im not mistaken. The new iMacs are 1440p.

How the hell is that ugly? =/ its also, unlike the pointless 1440p full touch screen for windows 8.
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#130 SKaREO
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This thread is fueled by the fanatic few who are experiencing post-purchase rationalization. This happens quite often when inexperienced computer users make purchase decisions based soley on marketing hype. Professionals don't use Macintosh anymore, that was like 20 years ago. Professionals all use PCs in the industry now, trust me. Macintosh is so dumbed down you can't customize them or upgrade them enough to be considered an industry leader anymore. It's a marketing hype that you bought into when you bought this thing, be honest. No rational thinker can argue that a Mac is better than a PC.
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#131 sleepingzzz
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I agree it is pointless. The term is called self-justification. After making a large purchase like that the person usually will deny/block out any negative feedback no matter what evidence you give them. It doesn't really matter what you bring up they will just deny it or say they don't experience such and such like others do.

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#132 lostrib
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This thread is fueled by the fanatic few who are experiencing post-purchase rationalization. This happens quite often when inexperienced computer users make purchase decisions based soley on marketing hype. Professionals don't use Macintosh anymore, that was like 20 years ago. Professionals all use PCs in the industry now, trust me. Macintosh is so dumbed down you can't customize them or upgrade them enough to be considered an industry leader anymore. It's a marketing hype that you bought into when you bought this thing, be honest. No rational thinker can argue that a Mac is better than a PC.SKaREO

What industry? and what professionals?

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#133 _SKatEDiRt_
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="yonyz"]Windows PCs have a huge case you need to place somewhere which big components and all that, and an iMac takes up much less space, has a top notch display and even decent speakers, and is almost completely wire-less. Crypt_mx

 

ehhhh.....

s

 

Not only is it ugly, but that only has a regular 1080p screen if im not mistaken. The new iMacs are 1440p.

lol you dont have to buy a mac to get a NICE SCREEN. 

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#134 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

 

ehhhh.....

s

_SKatEDiRt_

 

Not only is it ugly, but that only has a regular 1080p screen if im not mistaken. The new iMacs are 1440p.

lol you dont have to buy a mac to get a NICE SCREEN. 

I believe the were talking specifically about All in one PCs like the iMac

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#135 way2funny
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]There's nothing wrong with MACs and the OSX Platform, people who say MACs are useless have no idea what they are talking about. The problem I see is that if you go MAC, you are paying over the top prices for the same hardware (since Mac now even uses Intel) and for an OS that does LESS than Windows...mrbojangles25

pretty much this

so, in other words, there is plenty wrong with Mac computers :P

still, I think the rift between mac and PC users is pretty rediculous lol.

Wait, what does it do less than windows?  If anything I'm finding the OS does MORE than windows without having to find and download third party software. Lack of third party software isn't the OS fault if thats what your saying. Things like recording videos of my desktop, zipping and unzipping folders, built in SSH, built in PDF viewer. If anything it is a more complete operating system than windows. Anytime I want to do one of those things on my desktop I need to find third party software to do it for me, when if I'm on my mac, its already there.

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#136 _SKatEDiRt_
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[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

 

Not only is it ugly, but that only has a regular 1080p screen if im not mistaken. The new iMacs are 1440p.

lostrib

lol you dont have to buy a mac to get a NICE SCREEN. 

I believe the were talking specifically about All in one PCs like the iMac

iFail

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#137 yonyz
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[QUOTE="yonyz"]Windows PCs have a huge case you need to place somewhere which big components and all that, and an iMac takes up much less space, has a top notch display and even decent speakers, and is almost completely wire-less.  FelipeInside

 

ehhhh.....

s

That's not a gaming PC. If he's buying something that won't fit for gaming, than it should at least run other stuff he needs, and he says he prefers Mac software for music.
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#138 FelipeInside
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^^ That wasn't the point I was making. Read the whole thing before commenting since you totally missed the subject.
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#139 magicalhobit
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Total over priced bro, should have went alienware if you wanted the bestBieberfan147
I have a m18x alienware is crap i am acttually getn rid of it for a macbook and building a pc for half the cost and twice the power of the m18x