I'm sick of games with lack of intro story...

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="d-rtyboy"]Games are about gameplay. If I want a good story I'll read a book. I do actually read. Seriously.d-rtyboy

Well that's you, but video games aren't just about gameplay imo.

A game can concentrate more on it's gameplay mechanics (like shooting), another can concentrate more on story telling, another can concentrate more on puzzle solving, yet another can concentrate more on making the graphics the best.

The BEST games have a nice mixture of all these (for example Half Life 2).

You talked about Metal Gear Solid. Although the story is awesome, yes, I agree with you that some cutscenes drag on too long... it doesn't have a good balance of gameplay and story telling, but they have all been like that.

I believe a game can have it's strong points but also balance other things into it. A shooting game is great fun, but if you keep the pace at 100% people will get tire/bored, you need to slow down the pace or have different speeds. A BOOK does this too.

I think video games are whatever you want them to be about. There's tons of different types of games with different focuses...any given gamer can find tons of games that align with their preferences...that's what I love about gaming.

Personally I love games that don't bash you over the head with a story. My idea of a great RPG? Hmm...something like Arx Fatalis! Sure, there's a story there but really they plop you down in a dungeon and the world of Arx and it's amazing atmosphere is the real "story" and to me that's bliss.

I don't mind a good story once in a while though...just picked up The Witcher 2 today and you know what? Pretty damn good!

Anyways point is games aren't only about X and they don't need to have Y to be great...games can be anything. Find what you like and enjoy :)

Or (like in the case of myself and TW2) try something different too...don't always stick to what's comfortable! I think there's a lot of grumpy gamers that would be a lot happier if they kept an open mind and looked at what a particular game offered, instead of what it doesn't.

I think video games are whatever you want them to be about. There's tons of different types of games with different focuses...any given gamer can find tons of games that align with their preferences...that's what I love about gaming.

Personally I love games that don't bash you over the head with a story. My idea of a great RPG? Hmm...something like Arx Fatalis! Sure, there's a story there but really they plop you down in a dungeon and the world of Arx and it's amazing atmosphere is the real "story" and to me that's bliss.

I don't mind a good story once in a while though...just picked up The Witcher 2 today and you know what? Pretty damn good!

Anyways point is games aren't only about X and they don't need to have Y to be great...games can be anything. Find what you like and enjoy :)

Or (like in the case of myself and TW2) try something different too...don't always stick to what's comfortable! I think there's a lot of grumpy gamers that would be a lot happier if they kept an open mind and looked at what a particular game offered, instead of what it doesn't.

Renevent42

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]...don't know what's going on but I will gladly grab this gun and go kill people.masterdrat

I'm down for killing WEREwolves. :D

On topic, I like just exploring a huge world where (different) stories are told through NPC's. They might not all interconnect but they're very unique and interesting in their own ways. :)

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Back in my day, I was handed a pistol and was thrown into some sort of mars station fighting hordes of enemies. Good enough.

lil_d_mack_314

Agreed. It's the worst when a games story has been told 50 times before....Oh you have amnesia? You don't know how you got here/there and you forgot all your "moves" leading up to a tutorial. Now that you have learned your basic moves...again track down that/those bad guy(s) who wronged you in some way. :roll:....

I'm currently playing Dark Souls. Hardly any story at all (or maybe I was texting while the intro was playing :P) and I can't put it down.

There is always an exception to the rule though. Planescape Torment starts you off with amnesia, but it has one of the greatest stories in a video game. Although, the use of the cliche was very well done.

[QUOTE="lil_d_mack_314"]

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"] I loved it too, give me atmosphere and cool characters but spare me b-movie story.ArchonOver

Agreed. It's the worst when a games story has been told 50 times before....Oh you have amnesia? You don't know how you got here/there and you forgot all your "moves" leading up to a tutorial. Now that you have learned your basic moves...again track down that/those bad guy(s) who wronged you in some way. :roll:....

I'm currently playing Dark Souls. Hardly any story at all (or maybe I was texting while the intro was playing :P) and I can't put it down.

There is always an exception to the rule though. Planescape Torment starts you off with amnesia, but it has one of the greatest stories in a video game. Although, the use of the cliche was very well done.

[QUOTE="lil_d_mack_314"]

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"] I loved it too, give me atmosphere and cool characters but spare me b-movie story.ArchonOver

Agreed. It's the worst when a games story has been told 50 times before....Oh you have amnesia? You don't know how you got here/there and you forgot all your "moves" leading up to a tutorial. Now that you have learned your basic moves...again track down that/those bad guy(s) who wronged you in some way. :roll:....

I'm currently playing Dark Souls. Hardly any story at all (or maybe I was texting while the intro was playing :P) and I can't put it down.

There is always an exception to the rule though. Planescape Torment starts you off with amnesia, but it has one of the greatest stories in a video game. Although, the use of the cliche was very well done.

It was still an overused cliche even back then, but now it's just beaten to death.ArchonOver

Funny thing - so many people hate DA2, yet it has a very good intro.topsemag55

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]Funny thing - so many people hate DA2, yet it has a very good intro.FelipeInside

Well, I never played Grim Fandango. I'll avoid it though. Thanks. Like Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater, I know it's not a PC game but w/e, that game put me to sleep even though it had an awesome storyline. The first night I "played" it, 95% of the three hours was just storyline. I'd rather have used that three hours to read a Tom Clancy or WEB Griffin novel. What is a video game without gameplay? That's the whole point of video games. Storyline is for books and movies. You can add a good storyline if it adds to the gameplay, but take away the gameplay and you have a poorly scripted/acted movie that nobody would watch if it was in the theater or DVD. You don't need a good storyline in a shooter. You have to save the princess/Earth/whatever singlehandedly and you have to kill a bunch of people/zombies/aliens/whatever to do that. Anything deeper is just a waste of resources. Resources that should be put into making the gameplay. AFA making a shooter is concerned, some games like RPG's you can't really get away with that. Saving the Earth/princess/whatever is just an excuse to blow stuff up, nobody actually cares why they are blowing stuff up.d-rtyboy

look at Hard REset.

lame game with cool (max payne like) intro :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nODJBSZ0xK4

Back in my day, I was handed a pistol and was thrown into some sort of mars station fighting hordes of enemies. Good enough.

Wasdie