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#1 JohnnyMac05
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Hi all, I'm doing my dissertation at University on immersion with technology in video games and need gamers opinions... What helps immersion better and why: -surround sound vs stereo -gaming headset vs sound system -hd tv vs normal tv And can these help experience both online and offline? Any opinions in these would be greatly appreciated, and/or any other views you feel relevant!
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#2 kraken2109
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I find monitors more immersive than TVs because you're closer.

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#3 KHAndAnime
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Stereo is capable of providing sound equally, or arguably even more immersive than surround sound. Especially when dealing with headphones. I feel that surround sound slightly enhances immersion. Why only slightly? Well, obviously having the extra sound channels allows for better emphasis of where the sounds are coming from, but often I find the actual mixing of the surround sound to be immersion-breaking. The reason for this is that the audio engineers mixed the sound differently that how I would have. Often I'll hear sound coming from the rear speakers that obviously wasn't behind the screen, and then I'll hear audio up coming from the fronts that should have come out of the rears. This is a huge issue in movies, shows, and game. I've come to realize a lot of these audio-engineers don't agree with what I consider "realistic soundstage". They use the extra speakers often just because they can, rather than realizing their purpose. HDTVs are generally considered more immersive because they are bigger and have more detail, which makes out gaze into the digital realm seem more "real".
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#4 Masenkoe
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I find monitors more immersive than TVs because you're closer.

kraken2109

Also a headset > sound system. When the sound is really in your ears close to you like that there's just something to be said about it.

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#5 Rusteater
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

I find monitors more immersive than TVs because you're closer.

Masenkoe

Also a headset > sound system. When the sound is really in your ears close to you like that there's just something to be said about it.

I agree with both.^

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#6 bjvill
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I don't have a fancy gaming headset but i personally find even my simple stereo headphones more immersive than big fancy surround sound setups. 1.) The sound does not have to compete with real world ongoing sounds for my eardrum. 2.) when done well, the auditory illusions can really mess with one's head (like the "cetera algorithm" demo with the shaking moving box of matches) they really should use that more in movies/music/games. 3.) don't know bout the rest of you but i only have 2 ears (no offense to any Van Gogh out there) so 2 sound sources should be immersive enough
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#7 NamelessPlayer
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My Stax Lambda headphone setup basically killed all desire for me to get a surround speaker system. There's a particularly ambient, atmospheric quality to its sound delivery (which could be a common trait for electrostatics), and combined with CMSS-3D Headphone, it's like having an aural wallhack. Also, not having to have a room with perfect acoustic properties really helps keep the cost down to...not-so-astronomical levels. (Yeah, even used Stax headphones aren't the cheapest of things, but in the world of audio, things get expensive quick.) As far as displays go, higher resolutions are definitely a benefit because of clarity, especially when I'm trying to identify something that's just a speck in the distance (all too common in WWI/WWII flight simulators, OFP/ArmA, or anything else with huge draw distances)...but do note that I'm also fond of older games from the days when consoles ran in 240p, and those games generally look horrible on your average HDTV because of how they upscale the low resolution. The only way those games really look ideal to me is on an old CRT monitor (usually an arcade monitor or presentation monitor) that accepts 15 KHz RGB input, so that I don't have to put up with the color artifacts and dulling that occurs with S-Video, composite, and RF. Now, as for other aspects of immersion in gaming, a big one for me would have to be the controls. Head-tracking devices like the TrackIR help immensely in flight simulation, seeing as I don't have to futz around with a hat switch to keep my eyes on the target, and it also feels more natural to peer inside a virtual cockpit with it. Then there's the fact that I once owned a HOTAS and rudder pedal setup that was worth at least $500 combined with all the mods installed, and it felt a bit more like I was actually sitting in the cockpit of an F-16C as a result. Likewise, I can't bring myself to play most racing games/sims without a force-feedback steering wheel in front of me.
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A surround sound system may have more channels, but it will not have the sound quality produced by a stereo system for the same price.

I feel that the loss of immersion from low quality sound is much higher than the immersion gained by a surround sound system.

If price is not an issue, a quality surround sound set will create a better sense of immersion.

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A gaming headset or pair of quality headphones will produce a better sound with more detail than an equally priced surround sound system.

Similar to what I said above, quality of sound > quantity of sound.

But one again if price is not an issue, a surround sound system will most defiantly beat out the headphones.

One addition thing to note is that headphones will not give the same feel that you can get from a deep bass produced by a single or multiple subwoofers that can be found in a quality surround sound system.

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#9 JohnnyMac05
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I would just like to thank you all for your input, it was greatly appreciated and very helpful :)