Is BIOS flashed HD 6970 the best bang for your buck Gaming GPU in history?

It's been nearly 7 months since I brought my XFX HD 6950 and BIOS flashed to a HD 6970. After checking the prices the HD 6970's are still more expensive than my BIOS flashed HD 6970. I spent $289.99 for my XFX HD 6950 BIOS flashed to HD 6970, in January while the current price of a XFX HD 6970 now currently $379.99:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150531

It's still $90 more expensive. That's almost unheard of in the Gaming GPU industry. :shock: Even the cheapest HD 6970 is at least $30 more than the price I got my XFX BIOS flased HD 6970 for. If you look at the prices of the 560 Ti or the HD 6950 1 GB, they both used to cost around $260 when they were released in January. 6 Month's later you could buy them for around $200, a drop of nearly $60. I have been following the Gaming GPU industry since I was kid I can't ever remember 6 month's later the price of a Gaming GPU cost MORE than it's release price. Even the legendary 3DFX's Voodoo 2 dropped like $50 6 month's after it's release back in 1998. BIOS flashing a HD 6950 to a HD 6970 is without a doubt the best bang for you buck in Gaming GPU in history. I thought by now it would have easily been cheaper than the price I paid back in January.

Too bad they don't make em like that anymore by the time I needed to purchase :(

6950s haven't been able to be flashed for quite some time now (you'll hear people say that there is a model still sold that can be flashed, but no one can agree on which model it is so...). Also, flagship GPUs tend to hold their prices much better than other GPU tiers. I sold my 5970, for example, for $100 more than I bought for brand-new the previous year.gameguy6700

Best bang for your buck is a way open statement. I could say my gtx 460 768mb video card is the best bang for the buck for me considering I got it almost a year ago for only 100 dollars. (Newegg sale + video card coupon code + free shipping). 6950 bios flash is very nice.. Sadly, many makers cut that ability fairly quickly to not hurt prices of their 6970's. jedikevin2

Well the reason I would say it's the best bang for your buck is because even after 7 month's XFX HD 6970 is $50 more that what I paid for, which is almost UNHEARD of the GPU industry. Your GTX 460 after 7 month's didn't cost $50 MORE than the price you paid for. Plus the GTX 460 doesn't MAX out all games like Metro 2033 and I believe Crysis 2 with DX 11 + Tesselation + High resolution texture pack with everything maxed out minus some AA, while me XFX HD 6970 can.

Just to let you all know, my friend recently bought 2 HIS 6950s and was able to flash them both to 6970s

The radeon 9500pros were able to be turned into 9700pros, which is like turning a 6850 into a 6970.

your calling the 6970 flash better than the deadman of gpu's the 8800gt.. ahahahaha i laugh

the 8800gt is like the ak-47 of gpu's they take a beating and come back for more.. jsut when you think their obsolete they squeeze another year or half year out before they meet overwhelming requirements. their still bloody everywhere lol. their the price vs preformance CHAMP.. PERIOD. they are outstanding value for your dollar and many folks that bought em new still have em and still use em and they're lifespan is the bar by which we will set all future generations of gpu's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RukPr-ZwDfs&feature=related

your calling the 6970 flash better than the deadman of gpu's the 8800gt.. ahahahaha i laugh

the 8800gt is like the ak-47 of gpu's they take a beating and come back for more.. jsut when you think their obsolete they squeeze another year or half year out before they meet overwhelming requirements. their still bloody everywhere lol. their the price vs preformance CHAMP.. PERIOD. they are outstanding value for your dollar and many folks that bought em new still have em and still use em and they're lifespan is the bar by which we will set all future generations of gpu's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RukPr-ZwDfs&feature=related

ionusX

Agree 100% with this.

8800GT and 8800GTS 512 were both the best cards.

I can't flash my XFX HD 6950's... mind you with two of these I'm not really complaining. A part of me wishes I waited for a HD 7970 but its ok. I think the best bang for the buck GPU you can get is if you can find them in stock is the HD 6870 now at £120.

Hello to the 8800GT :)

No one remembers the 7600GT?... that thing was a awesome card for the price as well as its predecessor the 6600GT, but I have to agree the 8800GT is probably the best. Right now though... the HD 6870 but you see its all relevant to how much you can spend if you had £200 the GTX 560ti is phenomenal for its price.

Agree 100% with this.

8800GT and 8800GTS 512 were both the best cards.

GTR12

Yah I still have my 8800gt that I purchased it about 4 years ago.

I have Oced it quite a bit for some games and it still works fine.

I was truly amazed to get that much performance from a cheap card at the time when it's big brother (8800GTX) cost significantly more and was not much better.

Also I was surprised to see it beat the older 8800GTS 640mb model.

I think that was the start of higher end budget video cards.

Before that high end cards would cost 500-600USD.

Now you can pick out a 340USD GTX 570 and OC it to perform as good (or better) than a Stock GTX 580.

your calling the 6970 flash better than the deadman of gpu's the 8800gt.. ahahahaha i laugh

the 8800gt is like the ak-47 of gpu's they take a beating and come back for more.. jsut when you think their obsolete they squeeze another year or half year out before they meet overwhelming requirements. their still bloody everywhere lol. their the price vs preformance CHAMP.. PERIOD. they are outstanding value for your dollar and many folks that bought em new still have em and still use em and they're lifespan is the bar by which we will set all future generations of gpu's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RukPr-ZwDfs&feature=related

ionusX

I am not going to necessarily disagree with, it was without a doubt the best bang for your buck card for 2007. But it still wasn't able to max out Crysis in 1080P, heck it wasn't even able to max out Crysis at 900P and get playable framerates. While with my BIOS flashed XFX HD 6970 I am able to max out all games in FULL HD 1080P. There is not a game I can't max out with at least 2X AA and 16X Anistrophic Filtering. Not to mention the fact that certain models of the card cost $270, only $20 less than what I paid. And 7 month's after it's released the price of the 8800 GT dropped significantly while 7 month's after I brought mine's XFX HD 6970 it still costs more than what I paid. Did you hear that? It cost's more than what I paid. When was the last time were a mid to high-end GPU that cost's more than what you paid 7+ month's later in the history of the GPU industry? I think that happened I don't like.........never?

The radeon 9500pros were able to be turned into 9700pros, which is like turning a 6850 into a 6970.

GummiRaccoon

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

your calling the 6970 flash better than the deadman of gpu's the 8800gt.. ahahahaha i laugh

the 8800gt is like the ak-47 of gpu's they take a beating and come back for more.. jsut when you think their obsolete they squeeze another year or half year out before they meet overwhelming requirements. their still bloody everywhere lol. their the price vs preformance CHAMP.. PERIOD. they are outstanding value for your dollar and many folks that bought em new still have em and still use em and they're lifespan is the bar by which we will set all future generations of gpu's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RukPr-ZwDfs&feature=related

Xtasy26

I am not going to necessarily disagree with, it was without a doubt the best bang for your buck card for 2007. But it still wasn't able to max out Crysis in 1080P, heck it wasn't even able to max out Crysis at 900P and get playable framerates. While with my BIOS flashed XFX HD 6970 I am able to max out all games in FULL HD 1080P. There is not a game I can't max out with at least 2X AA and 16X Anistrophic Filtering. Not to mention the fact that certain models of the card cost $270, only $20 less than what I paid. And 7 month's after it's released the price of the 8800 GT dropped significantly while 7 month's after I brought mine's XFX HD 6970 it still costs more than what I paid. Did you hear that? It cost's more than what I paid. When was the last time were a mid to high-end GPU that cost's more than what you paid 7+ month's later in the history of the GPU industry? I think that happened I don't like.........never?

yes but overall preformance =/= bang for buck.. its about how long its lasted you despite its limitations. and as far as bag for buck videocards.. the geforce 8800 seires overall was nvidia masterpiece. i doubt they will ever have another like it.

I am not going to necessarily disagree with, it was without a doubt the best bang for your buck card for 2007. But it still wasn't able to max out Crysis in 1080P, heck it wasn't even able to max out Crysis at 900P and get playable framerates. While with my BIOS flashed XFX HD 6970 I am able to max out all games in FULL HD 1080P. There is not a game I can't max out with at least 2X AA and 16X Anistrophic Filtering. Not to mention the fact that certain models of the card cost $270, only $20 less than what I paid. And 7 month's after it's released the price of the 8800 GT dropped significantly while 7 month's after I brought mine's XFX HD 6970 it still costs more than what I paid. Did you hear that? It cost's more than what I paid. When was the last time were a mid to high-end GPU that cost's more than what you paid 7+ month's later in the history of the GPU industry? I think that happened I don't like.........never?

Xtasy26

So basically an overclocked 6950 and stock 6970 are not that much apart.

Now your 6950 is not really a 6970. Not only is your warranty void if the card dies but your card also doesnt overclock as much as 6970 so it will still ultimately be a little slower. Try selling your card and then you'll see it wont really be recognised in the market as a 6970. I mean I dont know what you are trying to say but there are many cards who when pushed to the limits can exceed the stock performance of a more expensive card.

An overclocked GTX 570 can match a 580 so that makes the 570 best bang for buck ever no?

No your argument just doesnt make sense. The 6950 is already one of the best bang for buck cards of this gen and it's held up it's price pretty well since launch but the GTX 570 and 580 have held it for even longer.

Btw 8800GTX held it's price for almost a year before the 8800GT came and remained the best GPU till the launch of GTX 280/4870. And that card is still capable of playing most games fairly well almost 5 YEARS into it's life. Now thats what you call best bang for buck ever.

And btw it sure wasnt able to max crysis but I guess you dont remember the sort of image quality boost the 8800 series brought along. You could play games with 16xAF with a negligible performance impact and you could also put 4xAA in 99% of the games, it simply wasnt possible before. It's almost unimaginable to me now playing a game without 16xAF.

And there wasnt a single game that 8800GTX couldnt max out when it was launched but 6970 cannot max metro 2033, a game which was already launched before the card released. And btw 6970 doesnt max crysis 2 DX11 either.

I like this thread - Proud former owner of a 7600GT and 8800GT both were great for the money. However the 8800GT was the better buy, 7600GT had issues running newer games when released (oblivion) where the 8800GT ran everything on high at 1680x1050 - even today it still runs games well on medium to higher settings.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

your calling the 6970 flash better than the deadman of gpu's the 8800gt.. ahahahaha i laugh

the 8800gt is like the ak-47 of gpu's they take a beating and come back for more.. jsut when you think their obsolete they squeeze another year or half year out before they meet overwhelming requirements. their still bloody everywhere lol. their the price vs preformance CHAMP.. PERIOD. they are outstanding value for your dollar and many folks that bought em new still have em and still use em and they're lifespan is the bar by which we will set all future generations of gpu's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RukPr-ZwDfs&feature=related

ionusX

I am not going to necessarily disagree with, it was without a doubt the best bang for your buck card for 2007. But it still wasn't able to max out Crysis in 1080P, heck it wasn't even able to max out Crysis at 900P and get playable framerates. While with my BIOS flashed XFX HD 6970 I am able to max out all games in FULL HD 1080P. There is not a game I can't max out with at least 2X AA and 16X Anistrophic Filtering. Not to mention the fact that certain models of the card cost $270, only $20 less than what I paid. And 7 month's after it's released the price of the 8800 GT dropped significantly while 7 month's after I brought mine's XFX HD 6970 it still costs more than what I paid. Did you hear that? It cost's more than what I paid. When was the last time were a mid to high-end GPU that cost's more than what you paid 7+ month's later in the history of the GPU industry? I think that happened I don't like.........never?

yes but overall preformance =/= bang for buck.. its about how long its lasted you despite its limitations. and as far as bag for buck videocards.. the geforce 8800 seires overall was nvidia masterpiece. i doubt they will ever have another like it.

I would agree that overall 8800 GT was a masterpiece. It still doesn't take away from the fact that BIOS flashing HD 6950 to a HD 6970 is indeed the best bang for your buck eventhough you can't do that with all the 6950's.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

I am not going to necessarily disagree with, it was without a doubt the best bang for your buck card for 2007. But it still wasn't able to max out Crysis in 1080P, heck it wasn't even able to max out Crysis at 900P and get playable framerates. While with my BIOS flashed XFX HD 6970 I am able to max out all games in FULL HD 1080P. There is not a game I can't max out with at least 2X AA and 16X Anistrophic Filtering. Not to mention the fact that certain models of the card cost $270, only $20 less than what I paid. And 7 month's after it's released the price of the 8800 GT dropped significantly while 7 month's after I brought mine's XFX HD 6970 it still costs more than what I paid. Did you hear that? It cost's more than what I paid. When was the last time were a mid to high-end GPU that cost's more than what you paid 7+ month's later in the history of the GPU industry? I think that happened I don't like.........never?

Gambler_3

So basically an overclocked 6950 and stock 6970 are not that much apart.

Now your 6950 is not really a 6970. Not only is your warranty void if the card dies but your card also doesnt overclock as much as 6970 so it will still ultimately be a little slower. Try selling your card and then you'll see it wont really be recognised in the market as a 6970. I mean I dont know what you are trying to say but there are many cards who when pushed to the limits can exceed the stock performance of a more expensive card.

An overclocked GTX 570 can match a 580 so that makes the 570 best bang for buck ever no?

No your argument just doesnt make sense. The 6950 is already one of the best bang for buck cards of this gen and it's held up it's price pretty well since launch but the GTX 570 and 580 have held it for even longer.

Btw 8800GTX held it's price for almost a year before the 8800GT came and remained the best GPU till the launch of GTX 280/4870. And that card is still capable of playing most games fairly well almost 5 YEARS into it's life. Now thats what you call best bang for buck ever.

And btw it sure wasnt able to max crysis but I guess you dont remember the sort of image quality boost the 8800 series brought along. You could play games with 16xAF with a negligible performance impact and you could also put 4xAA in 99% of the games, it simply wasnt possible before. It's almost unimaginable to me now playing a game without 16xAF.

And there wasnt a single game that 8800GTX couldnt max out when it was launched but 6970 cannot max metro 2033, a game which was already launched before the card released. And btw 6970 doesnt max crysis 2 DX11 either.

I was arguing from the prespective that even after 7+ month's HD 6970 is still $50 more than a BIOS flashed HD 6950. As for overclocking potential I could push my HD 6970 too I just have to increase the voltage. A GTX 570 after 7+ month's doesn't cost MORE than it did 7 month's ago like it does with a XFX HD 6970, so your logic fails. A XFX HD 6950 (at least my model) is the EXACT same as a XFX HD 6950 it's just one says HD 6950 on it. And it does max out Metro 2033 minus the DOF (although in certain cases it can max out with DOF on) which doesn't even make much of a difference. As for Crysis 2 I have seen people max it out @1080P and get playable framerates.

And as for your other point about the life span of the card, I am willing to bet my HD 6970 will be able to max out many games 5+ years on just like the 8800 GT.

And as for your other point about the life span of the card, I am willing to bet my HD 6970 will be able to max out many games 5+ years on just like the 8800 GT.

Xtasy26

Your card will be pretty much obsolete when a next gen console comes provided MS and sony dont go the nintendo root and make their consoles fairly powerful for their time.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

And as for your other point about the life span of the card, I am willing to bet my HD 6970 will be able to max out many games 5+ years on just like the 8800 GT.

Gambler_3

Your card will be pretty much obsolete when a next gen console comes provided MS and sony dont go the nintendo root and make their consoles fairly powerful for their time.

That is exactly the reason that the 8800GT lasted so long, it was released immediately after consoles. I'd say the next generation of graphics cards released after the next consoles are released will last just as long.

8800gt by far imo. $270ish at release and was just as powerful as $500+ gpus, and still runs games right now. Have an old 8800 gt in my secondary rig and it runs even newer games like crysis 2.

I think that pretty much all of the G92-based GPUs were the best bang for your buck in retrospect. The 9500 to 9700 was a ridiculous deal as well. You can't seriously compare the 6950 to the 8800gt/GTS 512/9800gt at this point. The G92 is legendary and still runs most games well today. On the negative side, they do seem to live fairly short lives compared to most other high-performance GPUs. I've seen more 8800gt's die within 2-4 years of purchase than any other card that I can think of.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

And as for your other point about the life span of the card, I am willing to bet my HD 6970 will be able to max out many games 5+ years on just like the 8800 GT.

GummiRaccoon

Your card will be pretty much obsolete when a next gen console comes provided MS and sony dont go the nintendo root and make their consoles fairly powerful for their time.

That is exactly the reason that the 8800GT lasted so long, it was released immediately after consoles. I'd say the next generation of graphics cards released after the next consoles are released will last just as long.

And I would also agree that their relatively short lifespans really is quite a bummer for an otherwise perfect series of cards.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

And as for your other point about the life span of the card, I am willing to bet my HD 6970 will be able to max out many games 5+ years on just like the 8800 GT.

Gambler_3

Your card will be pretty much obsolete when a next gen console comes provided MS and sony dont go the nintendo root and make their consoles fairly powerful for their time.

Perhaps..We will have to wait and see. We don't know when the next Xbox or Playstation comes out even if it did, I highly doubt it will have HD 6970 calibre GPU. On the flip side I could make the argument that one of the reasons the 8800 GT lasted so long was because it came within a time period where no new consoles came out.

My point still holds. Name me a GPU where 7+ month's after it's release it still costed $50-$90 more than it the price it realeased initially like my BIOS flashed HD 6970.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

And as for your other point about the life span of the card, I am willing to bet my HD 6970 will be able to max out many games 5+ years on just like the 8800 GT.

Xtasy26

Your card will be pretty much obsolete when a next gen console comes provided MS and sony dont go the nintendo root and make their consoles fairly powerful for their time.

Perhaps..We will have to wait and see. We don't know when the next Xbox or Playstation comes out even if it did, I highly doubt it will have HD 6970 calibre GPU. On the flip side I could make the argument that one of the reasons the 8800 GT lasted so long was because it came within a time period where no new consoles came out.

My point still holds. Name me a GPU where 7+ month's after it's release it still costed $50-$90 more than it the price it realeased initially like my BIOS flashed HD 6970.

Radeon 9500 could be transformed into a 9700. The 9700 was $90 to $100 more than the 9500 back in 2004.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Sorry but are you serious?:?

Your card will be pretty much obsolete when a next gen console comes provided MS and sony dont go the nintendo root and make their consoles fairly powerful for their time.

hartsickdiscipl

Perhaps..We will have to wait and see. We don't know when the next Xbox or Playstation comes out even if it did, I highly doubt it will have HD 6970 calibre GPU. On the flip side I could make the argument that one of the reasons the 8800 GT lasted so long was because it came within a time period where no new consoles came out.

My point still holds. Name me a GPU where 7+ month's after it's release it still costed $50-$90 more than it the price it realeased initially like my BIOS flashed HD 6970.

Radeon 9500 could be transformed into a 9700. The 9700 was $90 to $100 more than the 9500 back in 2004.

Nah, that title goes to the following GPUs.

GeForce Ti4200 (Legend)

Radeon 9500 Pro (Flashed to 9700!)

Geforce GTX460 1GB (The OC to power ratio, holy crap)

There is also the awesom 8800GT to consider. These were rediculously cheap for the enormous power amount they put out.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

And as for your other point about the life span of the card, I am willing to bet my HD 6970 will be able to max out many games 5+ years on just like the 8800 GT.

Gambler_3

Your card will be pretty much obsolete when a next gen console comes provided MS and sony dont go the nintendo root and make their consoles fairly powerful for their time.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Sorry but are you serious?:?

Your card will be pretty much obsolete when a next gen console comes provided MS and sony dont go the nintendo root and make their consoles fairly powerful for their time.

hartsickdiscipl

Perhaps..We will have to wait and see. We don't know when the next Xbox or Playstation comes out even if it did, I highly doubt it will have HD 6970 calibre GPU. On the flip side I could make the argument that one of the reasons the 8800 GT lasted so long was because it came within a time period where no new consoles came out.

My point still holds. Name me a GPU where 7+ month's after it's release it still costed $50-$90 more than it the price it realeased initially like my BIOS flashed HD 6970.

Radeon 9500 could be transformed into a 9700. The 9700 was $90 to $100 more than the 9500 back in 2004.

...But could a 9500 max out all games @1080P like Doom 3 or Far Cry in 2004. ;) The answer is a simply NO.

...But could a 9500 max out all games @1080P like Doom 3 or Far Cry in 2004. ;) The answer is a simply NO.

Xtasy26

1080P wasn't even used alot in 2004...

Can your 6950 max out Metro 2560*1600? ;) The answer is a simply NO.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Perhaps..We will have to wait and see. We don't know when the next Xbox or Playstation comes out even if it did, I highly doubt it will have HD 6970 calibre GPU. On the flip side I could make the argument that one of the reasons the 8800 GT lasted so long was because it came within a time period where no new consoles came out.

My point still holds. Name me a GPU where 7+ month's after it's release it still costed $50-$90 more than it the price it realeased initially like my BIOS flashed HD 6970.

Xtasy26

Radeon 9500 could be transformed into a 9700. The 9700 was $90 to $100 more than the 9500 back in 2004.

...But could a 9500 max out all games @1080P like Doom 3 or Far Cry in 2004. ;) The answer is a simply NO.

haha, in 2002 everyone was rocking 1024x768 or 1280x1024 or at most 1600x1200

Best bang would be grabbing a GTX 295 for $150 off ebay, it's faster than a 6950..

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Radeon 9500 could be transformed into a 9700. The 9700 was $90 to $100 more than the 9500 back in 2004.

GummiRaccoon

...But could a 9500 max out all games @1080P like Doom 3 or Far Cry in 2004. ;) The answer is a simply NO.

haha, in 2002 everyone was rocking 1024x768 or 1280x1024 or at most 1600x1200

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

...But could a 9500 max out all games @1080P like Doom 3 or Far Cry in 2004. ;) The answer is a simply NO.

GTR12

1080P wasn't even used alot in 2004...

Can your 6950 max out Metro 2560*1600? ;) The answer is a simply NO.

Some 19" monitors supported 1920x1200. At least mines got close to that. 9500 didn't even get even close to that. So my point still stands. I may not be able to max out Metro but I could max out....I don't may be MOST GAMES. ;)

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Radeon 9500 could be transformed into a 9700. The 9700 was $90 to $100 more than the 9500 back in 2004.

GummiRaccoon

...But could a 9500 max out all games @1080P like Doom 3 or Far Cry in 2004. ;) The answer is a simply NO.

haha, in 2002 everyone was rocking 1024x768 or 1280x1024 or at most 1600x1200

So?

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

...But could a 9500 max out all games @1080P like Doom 3 or Far Cry in 2004. ;) The answer is a simply NO.

tequilasunriser

haha, in 2002 everyone was rocking 1024x768 or 1280x1024 or at most 1600x1200

I wasn't talking about 1280x1024, I was talking about 1080P or something close to it like 1920x1200.

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

...But could a 9500 max out all games @1080P like Doom 3 or Far Cry in 2004. ;) The answer is a simply NO.

Xtasy26

1080P wasn't even used alot in 2004...

Can your 6950 max out Metro 2560*1600? ;) The answer is a simply NO.

Some 19" monitors supported 1920x1200. At least mines got close to that. 9500 didn't even get even close to that. So my point still stands. I may not be able to max out Metro but I could max out....I don't may be MOST GAMES. ;)

And are you saying that 6950 happens to be the first card that can max MOST GAMES. Oh jeez did you just get a gaming card for the first time and cant get over the excitement?:lol:

8800GTX maxed EVERY game not MOST but EVERY game when it launched and continued to do so for a year when crysis came. 6950 cant even max out games released before it, it barely maxes the original crysis which is a 3 year old game lol and comes to it's knees with metro 2033.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

haha, in 2002 everyone was rocking 1024x768 or 1280x1024 or at most 1600x1200

Xtasy26

I wasn't talking about 1280x1024, I was talking about 1080P or something close to it like 1920x1200.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

And as for your other point about the life span of the card, I am willing to bet my HD 6970 will be able to max out many games 5+ years on just like the 8800 GT.

Xtasy26

Your card will be pretty much obsolete when a next gen console comes provided MS and sony dont go the nintendo root and make their consoles fairly powerful for their time.

Perhaps..We will have to wait and see. We don't know when the next Xbox or Playstation comes out even if it did, I highly doubt it will have HD 6970 calibre GPU. On the flip side I could make the argument that one of the reasons the 8800 GT lasted so long was because it came within a time period where no new consoles came out.

My point still holds. Name me a GPU where 7+ month's after it's release it still costed $50-$90 more than it the price it realeased initially like my BIOS flashed HD 6970.

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

...But could a 9500 max out all games @1080P like Doom 3 or Far Cry in 2004. ;) The answer is a simply NO.

Xtasy26

1080P wasn't even used alot in 2004...

Can your 6950 max out Metro 2560*1600? ;) The answer is a simply NO.

Some 19" monitors supported 1920x1200. At least mines got close to that. 9500 didn't even get even close to that. So my point still stands. I may not be able to max out Metro but I could max out....I don't may be MOST GAMES. ;)

No 19" monitor did 1080P and they never will, because its a 4:3 format. I could also say, my 8800GTS could get close to maxing out most games, thats your own words.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Perhaps..We will have to wait and see. We don't know when the next Xbox or Playstation comes out even if it did, I highly doubt it will have HD 6970 calibre GPU. On the flip side I could make the argument that one of the reasons the 8800 GT lasted so long was because it came within a time period where no new consoles came out.

My point still holds. Name me a GPU where 7+ month's after it's release it still costed $50-$90 more than it the price it realeased initially like my BIOS flashed HD 6970.

Xtasy26

Radeon 9500 could be transformed into a 9700. The 9700 was $90 to $100 more than the 9500 back in 2004.

...But could a 9500 max out all games @1080P like Doom 3 or Far Cry in 2004. ;) The answer is a simply NO.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

1080P wasn't even used alot in 2004...

Can your 6950 max out Metro 2560*1600? ;) The answer is a simply NO.

Gambler_3

Some 19" monitors supported 1920x1200. At least mines got close to that. 9500 didn't even get even close to that. So my point still stands. I may not be able to max out Metro but I could max out....I don't may be MOST GAMES. ;)

And are you saying that 6950 happens to be the first card that can max MOST GAMES. Oh jeez did you just get a gaming card for the first time and cant get over the excitement?:lol:

8800GTX maxed EVERY game not MOST but EVERY game when it launched and continued to do so for a year when crysis came. 6950 cant even max out games released before it, it barely maxes the original crysis which is a 3 year old game lol and comes to it's knees with metro 2033.

My bad with the resolution. But there were 21" CRT monitors that could output higher resolution. And a 6970 can max out pretty much most games minus things like DOF in Metro 2033 @1080P which doesn't make much of a different and the other game is Crysis 2 (but that was because of tesselation bug) which you could get around with by tweaking some settings. So, HD 6970 could do ALL games minus one or two settings in two games @1080P.

And your comment that a 6950 can "barely maxes teh original Crysis" is a LOL fest. First, of all it's not a 6950 it's a 6970, reading comprehension fail, and secondly I could easilty max out Crysis @1080P with silky smooth framerates and not just "barely max it out". And how much did the 8800 GTX cost when it came out? Oh wait, $600 twice the price of what I paid. Not exactly your best bang for your buck. If you want play the resolutoin game then I could easily lower the resolution to say 1050P and I would easily max out ALL games on my HD 6970. I just wouldn't be able to do it @1080P with maybe 2 games, one of which doesn't even make much of a difference such as Metro 2033 with DOF on. So, my point still stands. :)

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

1080P wasn't even used alot in 2004...

Can your 6950 max out Metro 2560*1600? ;) The answer is a simply NO.

GTR12

Some 19" monitors supported 1920x1200. At least mines got close to that. 9500 didn't even get even close to that. So my point still stands. I may not be able to max out Metro but I could max out....I don't may be MOST GAMES. ;)

No 19" monitor did 1080P and they never will, because its a 4:3 format. I could also say, my 8800GTS could get close to maxing out most games, thats your own words.

I wasn't talking about 1080P. Can your 8800 GTX max out 99% of games @1080P? No.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"] Exactly. Also, Xtasy26, yes, my 9700 Pro could max those games back then at my max resolution of 1280 x 1024. I used the card for 6 freakin' years. F****** excellent card.04dcarraher

I wasn't talking about 1280x1024, I was talking about 1080P or something close to it like 1920x1200.

I would not disagree. Point I was making I could do the same for the same price but at higher resolution. For example, 9700 Pro costs $400 when it came out, my BIOS flashed HD 6970 costs me $289.99. Hence my argument it's best bang for your buck, not just it was a good deal but you could push higher resolutions at lower price points that older GPU's couldn't.