Is Intel Evil? They bribed Dell and other PC makers not use AMD chips.

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#51 Xtasy26
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[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]we'd be back to the days where we were spending $300 for mid range intel cpu's and $500 for high end. blaznwiipspman1

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what's it's like right now? lol Hence the reason many people go AMD (price/performance)?

Not really, the sandy bridge processors, the i5 2500k would cost me $260 with tax, but back in the pentium 4 days, a socket 478 prescott 2.66 ghz cpu could cost you approximately the same price but when adjusted for inflation is actually well over $300. Since AMD started woopin intels arse you never see them price their midrange cpu's at that level again. They will only sell their high end cpus at a premium since AMD still can't compete with them there yet. But if AMD bulldozer meets expectations, then intels profit margins are gonna take a beating.

True. Go to Newegg and search their high end processors it costs $999. Seriously? What a bunch of price gouging douchbags. I seriously hope that AMD gives them a beating with their Bulldozer CPUs.

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#52 mrgrins
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If Intel hadn't done this I believe they would not have held on to the significant portion of marketshare during the time when AMD was producing a vastly superior product (around when AMD released the Athlon 64 line). This would have allowed AMD more revenue to research and move their line forward and the two companies would be closer to even footing as far as architecture performance.

This is my relatively uneducated speculation.

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#53 Xtasy26
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If Intel hadn't done this I believe they would not have held on to the significant portion of marketshare during the time when AMD was producing a vastly superior product (around when AMD released the Athlon 64 line). This would have allowed AMD more revenue to research and move their line forward and the two companies would be closer to even footing as far as architecture performance.

This is my relatively uneducated speculation.

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This is exactly the case. AMD would have much greater marketshare during that time, maybe up to 40-45% instead of being stuck at 20% while Intel owns the rest of 80%. They would have made SIGNIFICANTLY more money.

Basically by bribing Dell and other PC makers it was their stop-gap till they had their Core 2's come out in 2006. Then they could stop bribing them and the PC makers would choose Intel by default because they had the better processors. Intel basically played dirty when they were losing.

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#54 James00715
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I think AMD would have done the same if they had the extra money. Intel is no different than Microsoft. They were extremely successful early on when computers were just coming out. Now they just use their big money to keep afloat even if there are other companies with superior products. Intel has lost some anti-trust suits in the last few years, so stop these kinds of practices at least temporarily. Every big company does the same stuff.

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#55 Tauruslink
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Why do people have a problem with business decisions like this? Both companies agreed to it and both are profiting in their own way. The word "bribed" is used in a negative way here, but it is just business as usual. I will give you money if you use my product. I don't see anything wrong with this.

I voted yes anyways because of what they did to Project Offset. They bought Offset software out then shut them down. I wouldn't have a problem with a business decision like this except that they won't allow the original Offset team have the rights to any of the game assets created before and after acquisition.

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Agree. In the business world this "bribe" is called and agreement. ;)
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#56 Xtasy26
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[QUOTE="hoola"]

Why do people have a problem with business decisions like this? Both companies agreed to it and both are profiting in their own way. The word "bribed" is used in a negative way here, but it is just business as usual. I will give you money if you use my product. I don't see anything wrong with this.

I voted yes anyways because of what they did to Project Offset. They bought Offset software out then shut them down. I wouldn't have a problem with a business decision like this except that they won't allow the original Offset team have the rights to any of the game assets created before and after acquisition.

Tauruslink

Agree. In the business world this "bribe" is called and agreement. ;)

And consumers gets screwed in the process. ;)