Is it any wonder retail sales are declining?

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#1 AnnoyedDragon
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Or so I hear...

I went down to my local GameStation and had a hunt around the second hand PC area, I'm reminded why I don't buy from the shops anymore. Most of these games cost as much second hand in the shops as they were brand new online.

Take Avatar for example, they were selling a second hand copy of Avatar for £24; with the new copy being £32. Is this some sort of a joke? Take your pick.

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LINK - these guys actually own GameStation!

All selling cheaper brand new than this 'second hand copy'.

Honestly unless you are desperate to get a game 'right now' why would you bother with shop level retail these days? They're a rip off.

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#2 millerlight89
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Retail stores around where I live in the states do not sale second hand copies of PC games.
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#3 o0squishy0o
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wait for the "PC gaming isnt dying" post...

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#4 albi321
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Here in Canada, the PC section at every retail store has steadily shrunk to what now is an unorganized rack. At the same time the xbox 360 gets 2 full walls.
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#5 AnnoyedDragon
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Here in Canada, the PC section at every retail store has steadily shrunk to what now is an unorganized rack. At the same time the xbox 360 gets 2 full walls.albi321

That too, there is far better selection online because they don't have to allocate shelf space for the console majority.

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#6 Einhanderkiller
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In the US, games are usually priced decently at retail. Online physical copies and retail copies tend to be equal in price if they're not on sale. It's mostly the console games that get special sales at retail stores, but they happen sometimes for PC games, too. One time, Best Buy had The Orange Box, Crysis, and Red Alert 3 Premier Edition for $10 each. Also, the PC games sections in stores like Best Buy, Fry's, and Target aren't too bad. Best Buy's and Fry's are actually sometimes as large as the console sections, though there typically isn't a PC which you can play games on like there are PS3s or 360s.
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#7 k0r3aN_pR1d3
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Selling software at retail is getting very outdated. It is one of the top 20 trends that will disappear in a decade or so, or so studies say.
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#8 harjyotbanwait
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I still bought a decent amount of games at retail. I managed to get Spore for $5 at a Staples bargain bin, so it was a much better retail deal. Also got Dragon Age for $30 at Futureshop among others. But digital is growing and the deals are amazing sometimes.

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Selling software at retail is getting very outdated. It is one of the top 20 trends that will disappear in a decade or so, or so studies say. k0r3aN_pR1d3
I really hope not. I really like owning physical copies of my games.
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#10 k0r3aN_pR1d3
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[QUOTE="k0r3aN_pR1d3"]Selling software at retail is getting very outdated. It is one of the top 20 trends that will disappear in a decade or so, or so studies say. millerlight89
I really hope not. I really like owning physical copies of my games.

Companies want to stay cost efficient. Software is something virtualized. It isn't like a bar of candy. By putting it on a disc, something tangible, the cost goes up (even if it is only by a couple pennies). But you have to count in distribution, boxes, stuff like that. By going online which most people basically have, they can cut out that large portion of cost for a greater profit. So technically all the games that Steam sells are at a great profit margin.
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#11 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="k0r3aN_pR1d3"]Selling software at retail is getting very outdated. It is one of the top 20 trends that will disappear in a decade or so, or so studies say. k0r3aN_pR1d3
I really hope not. I really like owning physical copies of my games.

Companies want to stay cost efficient. Software is something virtualized. It isn't like a bar of candy. By putting it on a disc, something tangible, the cost goes up (even if it is only by a couple pennies). But you have to count in distribution, boxes, stuff like that. By going online which most people basically have, they can cut out that large portion of cost for a greater profit. So technically all the games that Steam sells are at a great profit margin.

Well I am not disagreeing it will happen. I just hope it won't for awhile as I like collecting and owning physical copies helps that.
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#12 attirex
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Two words: digital distribution. Get used to both of them. :-)
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#13 millerlight89
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Two words: digital distribution. Get used to both of them. :-)attirex
I will never get used to it. It is a great thing, but I want my hard copies.
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#14 xeekthecatx
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welll... it'a doing much better than the film industry. gaming industry made more money than the film industry for the first time in history

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#15 Franko_3
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In Canada price are exactly like that in retail. The cdn$ is the same as the us one, yet we pay 10-20$ more for every retail games than them. So now I alway order online from place like amazon or interactcd, where the shipping price to Canada is cheap (*glance* at eb games 15$us per item shipping)
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#16 thusaha
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[QUOTE="k0r3aN_pR1d3"]Selling software at retail is getting very outdated. It is one of the top 20 trends that will disappear in a decade or so, or so studies say. millerlight89
I really hope not. I really like owning physical copies of my games.

Same here.
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#17 Boomer
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Well the past few games I have got which are always Collector edition I go through Amazon cheap and easy and a real copy, if I am going to pay for a download I can get it for free elsewhere I pay for that box and disc not something I have to burn myself can do that for free.

Sad that Best Buy, Target and other stores have been better at buying PC Games for along time than Gamestop or other video game stores.

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#18 StrawberryHill
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="k0r3aN_pR1d3"]Selling software at retail is getting very outdated. It is one of the top 20 trends that will disappear in a decade or so, or so studies say. thusaha
I really hope not. I really like owning physical copies of my games.

Same here.

Same here. I order my games online, but I still like the hard copies.

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#19 jamyskis
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Selling software at retail is getting very outdated. It is one of the top 20 trends that will disappear in a decade or so, or so studies say. k0r3aN_pR1d3
Oh right. That wouldn't be the same studies commissioned and conducted by companies like Microsoft, would it? Those companies that have a vested interest in DD? Digital distribution is an accompaniment to retail, not a replacement. The music industry, in spite of claiming otherwise, sells barely 20% via download after ten years of legal downloads, and these are files that are 5-6Mb in size. The film industry has hardly managed to sell any download movies (rentals are a different kettle of fish). It harks back to the early days of pay-per-view movies on cable TV. I remember back then that movie execs were also claiming that pay-per-view was the future of the film market..
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#20 HenriH-42
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Here in Finland a lot of retail stores have a healthy PC game section. Most stores have a PC section that is larger than any single console. Even Gamestop has some good PC games (rarely though.) The only things that are annoying are that 1. It sometimes takes a really long time for games to get released here - like Cryostasis, which was released over 4 months after the Euro release, 2. The games are expensive as hell, with 50€ being the default for PC games and 70€ for console games. Luckily I can always order from UK, that's what pretty much everyone does.

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#21 RK-Mara
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Here in Finland a lot of retail stores have a healthy PC game section. Most stores have a PC section that is larger than any single console. Even Gamestop has some good PC games (rarely though.) The only things that are annoying are that 1. It sometimes takes a really long time for games to get released here - like Cryostasis, which was released over 4 months after the Euro release, 2. The games are expensive as hell, with 50€ being the default for PC games and 70€ for console games. Luckily I can always order from UK, that's what pretty much everyone does.

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Finnish Gamestops have some pretty good deals on cheaper PC games. They don't advertise it (it's best to ask the clerk first) but every PC game that costs 15 euros or less is part of the three for the price of two deal. I remember that a year ago you could buy Company of Heroes, Supreme Commander and Medieval 2 for 20e total. How great is that for retail? But with game retailers such as Gamestop and Tilt, the prices can be quite staggering. PC games selling for 60 euros, Wii games for 70 (I think both stores are still selling Twilight Princess for 70) and 360&PS3 games 80 euros. Compared to them Stockmann has low standard prices. Normal people don't know about Play.com, they go to the nearest Gamestop and buy the latest Pixar movie-to-game adaption for 80 euros.
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#22 tester962
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[QUOTE="attirex"]Two words: digital distribution. Get used to both of them. :-)millerlight89
I will never get used to it. It is a great thing, but I want my hard copies.

Same. The day Digital Distribution becomes the only way to get games is the day I stop buying games. Simple as that. I want my hard copy and I am willing to pay an extra 5-10 dollars for it in the future if needed.
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#23 chandu83
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As long as people are willing to pay for their hard copies, they will continue to be sold, however, I am getting used to the idea of digital distribution. Its not something I enjoy, but that's the new way of life.
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#24 dakan45
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Its just that people dont buy retail.
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#25 capthavic
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I'm sure to get hate for saying this but PC gaming isn't dead but it has shrunk.
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#26 AnnoyedDragon
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I'm sure to get hate for saying this but PC gaming isn't dead but it has shrunk.capthavic

I'd say the relevance of all platforms has shrunk as the market moves to a more unified approach.

People like to focus on PC, but consoles also have their obvious changes, look at the dramatic shift in exclusivity this generation.

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#27 OgreB
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As long as Gamestop keeps shipping..I'll keep buying..( I prefer the box...so at a later date I can sell it or give it away if I don't like it)

I use Steam and D2D, Impulse etc for bargain shopping only....

I have not bought a game in a store in years....not even worth going there to see a few PC games and a billion console games...

I'd rather pay the 9.99 overnight shipping...( cost me that much in gas to got to game store..not to mention my time..)

My copy of STALKER CoP will be here momentarly and Bioshock 2 will be in my hands next Tuesday.

For those that don't know Gamestop offers street release gaurantee...that means that the day it hits the store it's on the way to you door. ( On select major titles and with overnight shipping)

Someday it might be all digital...but as long as Gamestop keeps selling boxed retail versions..I'm getting it throught them.

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#28 Rawtheory333
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I hate retail. I'll never by a hard copy of a game again if I can help it. Steam FTW!

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#29 lucky326
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My local Game had a recent restructure and changed 1 small wall around 3 shelves to 1 shelf for just PC Games. To make matters worse they only sell the most recent games which is a disappointment. For the last 2 years the only games I bought from the store were games in the 2 for £25 or 2 for £15 sale, but they have done away with that section now.

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#30 Artosa
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i prefer retail games, i like having a case and disk etc
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#31 Ocid1
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I prefer my hard copies of games despite buying from online retailers like play and amzaon.

Its much cheaper in the UK to buy physical copies of pc games online than it is to go to a shop or to buy digitally. Digital copies usually sell for about £35 when they're just released yet i can get a hard copy off an e-tailer for £25 or less for the same game. A few examples would be Mass Effect 2 got for £25 Alpha Protocol which while not even having a solid release date i've pre-ordered for £16.

Unless digital copies can compete with that i'll be sticking with my physical copies