is it better for to leave your pc on?

[QUOTE="death1505921"]

Tripps you're talking crap. My hardrive has lasted 5 years in two different rigs. I'm not sure what you class as "soon" but all my stuff is going fine. And yeah, I leave it on pretty much 24/7 and then restart once a month to dust out ect.

Seriously, you have NO FACTS and you're basing this on pure opinion. Running it 24/7 does not contribute to heat build up aslong as componants are properly cooled.

For example, do your temps continually go up and up and up? No, of course they don't because you use fans to remove the heat. Now if you were completely passive cooled you may have a point. But I can guarentee that the current PC you are using is not 100% passive cooled.

Where as starting and stopping a PC DOES lead to failure of componants.

Captain__Tripps

How about you post some facts then about how starting the PC leads to failure? I seriusly doubt there has been any serious long term testing, one way or another. But its a fact that HDs are inheriently unreliable, and most will fail before five years.

The two examples that HuusAsking gave are two perfectly good ones. It does shorten life span of componants. Of a period of 5 years (Just pulling it out as you mentioned HDDs) this is going to have a large effect.

The fact you are outright denying it and saying that theres no such thing just shows ignorance.

Hibernate it when you are not on it and are gonna go on it again that day, turn it off at night...

Hibernate it when you are not on it and are gonna go on it again that day, turn it off at night...

fillup0

Hibernate saves your RAM to HD and powers everything off. It is essentially is turning it off, you can pull the power plug and still recover.

A Mean Time Between Failure rating is listed in hours. The more hours you run it, the less it has before the next failure. Also drives that are use to spinning all the time, then stopped, are sometimes hard to startup again. It's a personal choice. Keep good backups whichever way you decided to go. ;) Protoford

IOW, barring a just-plain-bad drive, even if you keep running it continuously, something else on your computer's probably going to fail before your hard drive.

[QUOTE="Protoford"]A Mean Time Between Failure rating is listed in hours. The more hours you run it, the less it has before the next failure. Also drives that are use to spinning all the time, then stopped, are sometimes hard to startup again. It's a personal choice. Keep good backups whichever way you decided to go. ;) HuusAsking

IOW, barring a just-plain-bad drive, even if you keep running it continuously, something else on your computer's probably going to fail before your hard drive.

Are you joking? The HD is the most unreliable device in any PC, except maybe fans which usually fail due to dust.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="Protoford"]A Mean Time Between Failure rating is listed in hours. The more hours you run it, the less it has before the next failure. Also drives that are use to spinning all the time, then stopped, are sometimes hard to startup again. It's a personal choice. Keep good backups whichever way you decided to go. ;) Captain__Tripps

IOW, barring a just-plain-bad drive, even if you keep running it continuously, something else on your computer's probably going to fail before your hard drive.

Are you joking? The HD is the most unreliable device in any PC, except maybe fans which usually fail due to dust.

Fans can be maintained. If you keep the dust out, chacnes are they will last longer than a HD. And keeping the PC off will reduce dust if your too lazy to blow out the PC on a semi-regular basis. Recorders I will give you are somewhat unreliable, but not more so than a HD ime.

[QUOTE="death1505921"]

Tripps you're talking crap. My hardrive has lasted 5 years in two different rigs. I'm not sure what you class as "soon" but all my stuff is going fine. And yeah, I leave it on pretty much 24/7 and then restart once a month to dust out ect.

Seriously, you have NO FACTS and you're basing this on pure opinion. Running it 24/7 does not contribute to heat build up aslong as componants are properly cooled.

For example, do your temps continually go up and up and up? No, of course they don't because you use fans to remove the heat. Now if you were completely passive cooled you may have a point. But I can guarentee that the current PC you are using is not 100% passive cooled.

Where as starting and stopping a PC DOES lead to failure of componants.

Captain__Tripps

How about you post some facts then about how starting the PC leads to failure? I seriusly doubt there has been any serious long term testing, one way or another. But its a fact that HDs are inheriently unreliable, and most will fail before five years.

What was the testing done to reach the conclusion that a PC running 24/7 will last longer than one that isn't? I never said turning the pc on/off doesn't cause stress, I specifically said it does, but you seem to ignore that running 24/7 also leads to wear/tear, especially if its not in an environmentally controlled environment.

What was the testing done to reach the conclusion that a PC running 24/7 will last longer than one that isn't? I never said turning the pc on/off doesn't cause stress, I specifically said it does, but you seem to ignore that running 24/7 also leads to wear/tear, especially if its not in an environmentally controlled environment.

Captain__Tripps

What was the testing done to reach the conclusion that a PC running 24/7 will last longer than one that isn't? I never said turning the pc on/off doesn't cause stress, I specifically said it does, but you seem to ignore that running 24/7 also leads to wear/tear, especially if its not in an environmentally controlled environment. Captain__Tripps

Servers.
Ask anyone that has a career in the IT world.

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]What was the testing done to reach the conclusion that a PC running 24/7 will last longer than one that isn't? I never said turning the pc on/off doesn't cause stress, I specifically said it does, but you seem to ignore that running 24/7 also leads to wear/tear, especially if its not in an environmentally controlled environment. LordEC911

Servers.
Ask anyone that has a career in the IT world.

[QUOTE="LordEC911"]

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]What was the testing done to reach the conclusion that a PC running 24/7 will last longer than one that isn't? I never said turning the pc on/off doesn't cause stress, I specifically said it does, but you seem to ignore that running 24/7 also leads to wear/tear, especially if its not in an environmentally controlled environment. HuusAsking

Servers.
Ask anyone that has a career in the IT world.

a server has parts that were designed more around running nonstop, consumer pc's not near as much...

its not good to leave it running all the time...

and its not good to keep turning it on and off... its up to you to find the happy medium..

both sides of the argument speak valid points...

so i choose hibernate, unless im not gonna be one for a long while, then i turn it off. but i mainly stay on hibernate//

is it better to leave your pc on overnight and when its not in use? or turn it off.

Xxgood-timesXx

I don't "Exactly" leave it on, nor d oI "Exactly" turn it off all the time: I put mine in standy mode. It saves power, and I don't need to wait through start up (which is about 27 seconds long anyway on my PC).

i turn my off at night because its gonna get too dustedmilosbeli

This is true: A heated or warm surface attracts dust. and some thing in that dus can be ignited. So over time, (Say maybe a veeerrrryyy long time) it could potentially start a fire. (I don't know this, but it is a possibility)

If you ask me it doesn't matter, it was made to be used, it's not a pet so you don't need to "put it to sleep" :lol: Also better to have stuff fail while it's under warranty.X360PS3AMD05

Correction; in "YOUR" way, don't you mean its better to have something break in some amount of days before warranty expires?

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]

What was the testing done to reach the conclusion that a PC running 24/7 will last longer than one that isn't? I never said turning the pc on/off doesn't cause stress, I specifically said it does, but you seem to ignore that running 24/7 also leads to wear/tear, especially if its not in an environmentally controlled environment.

HuusAsking

Well, I personally think its a WASH. You wear it out whether you always leave it on, or turn it off. And since turning it off saves power/pollution, I think that is the better option. Also, solid state components such as the motherboard and CPU are extremely reliable, and from my experience, heardly ever fail. RAM is another story... And I used to be someone who never turned my PC(s) off.

Hibernate and standby does not prevent stuff from suffering damage from thermal shock. It does exactly the same thing as turning it off, your componants don't stay the same tempratures in standby and hibernate :roll:death1505921

Isnt hardware meant to be turned on and off?Didnt they make it that way that it would cope with it?It's the same with all electronics,do we keep them running all the time?Do you never turn off your TV?Do you always keep your car ignitioned so it never cools down?

Is computer hardware worth millions of dollars that it will be the end of the world if something does fail?Do you overclock your hardware if you are so worried about all this?I bet you do!!!!

And we are yet to see any proof from either side of the argument.......

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="LordEC911"]

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]What was the testing done to reach the conclusion that a PC running 24/7 will last longer than one that isn't? I never said turning the pc on/off doesn't cause stress, I specifically said it does, but you seem to ignore that running 24/7 also leads to wear/tear, especially if its not in an environmentally controlled environment. Lach0121

Servers.
Ask anyone that has a career in the IT world.

a server has parts that were designed more around running nonstop, consumer pc's not near as much...

its not good to leave it running all the time...

and its not good to keep turning it on and off... its up to you to find the happy medium..

both sides of the argument speak valid points...

so i choose hibernate, unless im not gonna be one for a long while, then i turn it off. but i mainly stay on hibernate//

Yep, because server parts are different than consumer...
Desktop chips are the same as Xeon parts, very small differences.
Some Xeons are exactly the same as Core2Duo/Core2Quad, depending on the bin they may or may not be better than their counterpart.
Server motherboards are made from the same quality components as consumer mobos, just with different feature sets.
Memory is slightly different, either FBDIMMs or for error checking.
Fans are the same.
PSUs, depending on the PSU it is a give and take, though usually gaming/consumer PSUs are better quality, made from the same parts though.
HD, again depends on your choices but most HD have ~1-1.5MTBF server and consumer.