Is it possible to transfer data from my laptop to my PC with a ethernet cable?

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#1 sune_Gem
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I got about 27gb of data on my laptop which i want to get on my PC. Problem is the biggest portable storage device i have of any kind is 2gb, so that would take a long time to get it all across. So i was wondering if it is at all possible to transfer the data from my laptop to my PC when there connected together through a ethernet cable?

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You will need a crossover cable, but I've never done that before, so I'm not sure how you go about it. You may just be able to map to the drive once you have your crossover cable, not sure.
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You will need a crossover cable, but I've never done that before, so I'm not sure how you go about it. You may just be able to map to the drive once you have your crossover cable, not sure.C_Rule

spot on.. you would map a network drive and throw files back and forth with each of em.. or setup an ftp session.. either or same thing.

but yeah you would need a crossover cable for this. yeah thats about it this is like intro to networking 101 sharing files via a peer-2-peer session :P

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You will need a crossover cable, but I've never done that before, so I'm not sure how you go about it. You may just be able to map to the drive once you have your crossover cable, not sure.C_Rule
Most motherboards don't require cross over cables any more. The drivers now a days can automatically detect and cross over the pins on the ethernet port. How else do you think people share internet through their ethernet port to another PC?

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#5 ionusX
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]You will need a crossover cable, but I've never done that before, so I'm not sure how you go about it. You may just be able to map to the drive once you have your crossover cable, not sure.kilerchese

Most motherboards don't require cross over cables any more. The drivers now a days can automatically detect and cross over the pins on the ethernet port. How else do you think people share internet through their ethernet port to another PC?

its still only right.. besides a crossover cable is legacy compatible.. this is INVALULABEL these days..

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Sorry for sounding un-profesional here, but i think i allready have one of those crossover cables. I'm not exactly sure thou, the easiest way i could describe it would be to tell you that it's just one long cable and is currently plugged into the side of my laptop while the other end is plugged into the back of my 360, so the 360 can gain access to xbox live using the laptops wireless connection to the router. Is this the cable you are talking about?

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Sorry for sounding un-profesional here, but i think i allready have one of those crossover cables. I'm not exactly sure thou, the easiest way i could describe it would be to tell you that it's just one long cable and is currently plugged into the side of my laptop while the other end is plugged into the back of my 360, so the 360 can gain access to xbox live using the laptops wireless connection to the router. Is this the cable you are talking about?

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You don't need a crossover cable, anyone that's done any networking in the past 6yrs will tell you the same. Most, if not all PC's come with auto-mdix crossover detection.

Just plug in both ends, and set PC1 with IP 192.168.1.1 with subnet 255.255.255.0 and PC2 with IP 192.168.1.2 with subnet 255.255.255.0

That will set you up, then browse to other computer through network places or similar, and copy/paste files.

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Sorry, i have next to no idea what i'm doing. My laptop and PC are now connected through the cable but absolutly nothing has happened and i really don't know anything about changing IPs and all that. Also, my laptop is using windows 7 while my PC has got XP if that makes a difference.

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Sorry, i have next to no idea what i'm doing. My laptop and PC are now connected through the cable but absolutly nothing has happened and i really don't know anything about changing IPs and all that. Also, my laptop is using windows 7 while my PC has got XP if that makes a difference.

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http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-setup-LAN-between-XP-and-Vista-PCs

If that doesn't help, type "How to setup a LAN?" in google, and there are a few hundred guides.

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If you haven't got both on a high speed network already it's easier just to transfer directly by sticking the laptop hard drive in the desktop.
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I followed that tutorial through twice and looked up others which pretty much said the same thing and absolutly nothing happens on either computer. Is there anyway i could transfer the data through my wireless router because i'm guessing that will be a whole lot easier than melting my mind with all this LAN stuff which i can barely understand.

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I followed that tutorial through twice and looked up others which pretty much said the same thing and absolutly nothing happens on either computer. Is there anyway i could transfer the data through my wireless router because i'm guessing that will be a whole lot easier than melting my mind with all this LAN stuff which i can barely understand.

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Are you sure you are using a crossover cable? The wires will be in a different order to a regular ethernet cable. You should be able to send files over your wireless if you share the folders, though it would be faster with cable.
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#13 markop2003
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I followed that tutorial through twice and looked up others which pretty much said the same thing and absolutly nothing happens on either computer. Is there anyway i could transfer the data through my wireless router because i'm guessing that will be a whole lot easier than melting my mind with all this LAN stuff which i can barely understand.

sune_Gem
I wouldn't advice it unless you're able to hash all your files (you can do this easily by using Teracopy's hash function when copying). Wireless isn't perfect in making sure that packets actually get delivered, it's not terrible but over 23gb i wouldn't risk it.
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Step by step, this is what i've done so far...

On my laptop with windows 7 i changed the workgroup to match my PC's. Enabled Network Discovery and file share service and made sure the firewall was not blocking them. Went into properties on LAN Connection and changed the TCP/IP Version 4 thing to 192.168.0.2

On my PC with windows XP i realised i had to re-install a networking driver. After that the Local Area Connection option came up in Network connections. I went into the Local Area Connection properties and changed the IP thing to 192.168.0.1 then enabled Printer and File share service and made sure the firewall wasn't blocking it.

The two computers still aint detecting each other (my laptop says unidentified network no internet access when the cable is plugged in), but if i pull the cable out of my laptop my PC notices and says "A Network Cable is unplugged" so they must be connected somehow. What am i doing wrong? What have i missed?

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Step by step, this is what i've done so far...

On my laptop with windows 7 i changed the workgroup to match my PC's. Enabled Network Discovery and file share service and made sure the firewall was not blocking them. Went into properties on LAN Connection and changed the TCP/IP Version 4 thing to 192.168.0.2

On my PC with windows XP i realised i had to re-install a networking driver. After that the Local Area Connection option came up in Network connections. I went into the Local Area Connection properties and changed the IP thing to 192.168.0.1 then enabled Printer and File share service and made sure the firewall wasn't blocking it.

The two computers still aint detecting each other (my laptop says unidentified network no internet access when the cable is plugged in), but if i pull the cable out of my laptop my PC notices and says "A Network Cable is unplugged" so they must be connected somehow. What am i doing wrong? What have i missed?

sune_Gem

W7 is a bit stupid sometimes, it says its unplugged if there is no internet, not whether or nor you have a cable plugged in. Its meant for those people that think, "oh this cable is internet cable, and nothing else."

Have you tried pinging 1 PC from the other? eg; through command prompt-->ping 192.168.0.2 from the XP computer and vice cersa from W7. If it succeeds, your LAN is fine, its just a software thing to get working.

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Too bad MS got rid of networking via Firewire after XP. I thought that was a handy feature to have.

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#17 GTR12
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Too bad MS got rid of networking via Firewire after XP. I thought that was a handy feature to have.

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****** still make those easy transfer cables through USB, that could work as well.

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Rather than checking "file and print services" in the firewall settings, just temporarily turn off firewall altogether on box machines for the sake of the copy. As long as they are connected directly to one another, there's no need for a firewall at all and it'll just making troubleshooting your situation that much more difficult (i.e. pings will fail, etc).

Also, to answer your question you most certainly can transfer all this information through your wireless router. Most wireless routers also have four or more wired networking ports. Plugging your laptop into one of these ports and turning off your wireless card will allow you to copy all of your data without using the slower wireless network. It also allows you to add your laptop to your existing network without having to change -any- network settings in most cases or fiddle with crossover cables.

I would have actually asked if you had additional ports on your router before advising you through all of these other steps because if the answer is "yes" then that will save your a considerable amount of time and effort.

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I had to revisit this thread because I too had to connect an old AMD Athlon XP 1700+ PC to my gaming PC and make use of the latter's WiFi N. Anyway, I first replaced the old GF4-Ti4200 with a GF FX5200 and replaced XP Home with Vista Basic. That way, procedures for both PCs will be similar even though the older PC has 32-bit Vista Basic while my gaming PC has 64-bit Win 7.

I wanted to use direct connection between the 2 PCs. It turns out, I'm fresh out of crossover cables and regular ethernet cables won't work. So the LAN ports are out. All I have is a 6-pin to 6-pin Firewire cable. It turns out I can still network through Firewire with Vista/Win 7 by using a free 3rd-party utility called ubCore made by Unibrain. I installed the 32-bit version on the 1700+ PC and the 64-bit version on my gaming PC.

I then configured both PCs to have the same Workgroup name. I enabled internet sharing on the WiFi N adapter of my gaming PC and chose the Firewire network as the home network. It took three tries plus resetting my wireless router (connected to a 3rd PC) before I finally got internet working. But, I do have network connectivity via direct connect with Firewire for Vista/Win 7.

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Just use CC File Transfer.
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Stop transferring through stupid means people. Just transfer through your LAN. cmd > ipconfig note ip, enable sharing on a random folder, allow writiting. then on the other pc just go to an explorer window and type \\othercomputer'sip\folder name transfer it done no need to worry about workgroups/domains
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Stop transferring through stupid means people. Just transfer through your LAN. cmd > ipconfig note ip, enable sharing on a random folder, allow writiting. then on the other pc just go to an explorer window and type \\othercomputer'sip\folder name transfer it done no need to worry about workgroups/domainsJigglyWiggly_

Before you do that, you still need to ensure physical connectivity between the two computers first. That was the main question of the TC.

In my case, I have an old PC, a newer one, and no crossover cable (a regular LAN cable doesn't work with direct connect). I needed the new PC to share it's internet access with the old one. The only connectivity option I have for the two is the Firewire cable and ports.

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[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

Sorry for sounding un-profesional here, but i think i allready have one of those crossover cables. I'm not exactly sure thou, the easiest way i could describe it would be to tell you that it's just one long cable and is currently plugged into the side of my laptop while the other end is plugged into the back of my 360, so the 360 can gain access to xbox live using the laptops wireless connection to the router. Is this the cable you are talking about?

GTR12

You don't need a crossover cable, anyone that's done any networking in the past 6yrs will tell you the same. Most, if not all PC's come with auto-mdix crossover detection.

Just plug in both ends, and set PC1 with IP 192.168.1.1 with subnet 255.255.255.0 and PC2 with IP 192.168.1.2 with subnet 255.255.255.0

That will set you up, then browse to other computer through network places or similar, and copy/paste files.

This, seems good to me, and yeah most people should know crossovers aint really neccessary these days.
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To GTR, there is a chance that it isn't in a 192.168.1.x lan, and like 0% chance but they might not even be /24.

My way works better :D To jun, if you have 2 computers on the internet in your house, you've got a router... well 99% chance, but if you don't and if you have 2 computers, buy a router. If you don't want to, the main pc might have 2 nics, just use ICS to connect them. (Creates a 192.168.0.0 subnet for the second computer, so you can't have your main LAN subnet 192.168.0.0, I had that problem once)

You can even make the second computer connect through wifi. I've done both. They work nice, I used it for my xbox 360 once when I ran out of ports on this switch in my room.

I can't believe some people have such weird networking problems :P I have about 20 pcs plugged into my network :D

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#25 GTR12
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@Jiggly,Yeh I know the TC might not have that LAN config, I just thought it was the most simple way, without introducing a router into the scenario. You could use any IP, which im sure you know already, just thought it was the easiest way.

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To GTR, there is a chance that it isn't in a 192.168.1.x lan, and like 0% chance but they might not even be /24.

My way works better :D To jun, if you have 2 computers on the internet in your house, you've got a router... well 99% chance, but if you don't and if you have 2 computers, buy a router. If you don't want to, the main pc might have 2 nics, just use ICS to connect them. (Creates a 192.168.0.0 subnet for the second computer, so you can't have your main LAN subnet 192.168.0.0, I had that problem once)

You can even make the second computer connect through wifi. I've done both. They work nice, I used it for my xbox 360 once when I ran out of ports on this switch in my room.

I can't believe some people have such weird networking problems :P I have about 20 pcs plugged into my network :D

JigglyWiggly_

Well, call it laziness. But, I didn't feel like dragging the 1700+ PC to where the wireless router is. For one thing there's not much space left. I can't force another PC in there unless I wanted the wife getting on my case. :lol:

So yep. I had to explore other means of sharing the wireless internet of my gaming PC with the 1700+ PC. Unfortunately, both PCs only had one LAN adapter apiece plus all I had was regular LAN CAT-45 cables (no crossovers left). The 1700+ PC only had USB1. My ****** USB WiFi N adapter was irritatingly slow on it. Trying to download Vista SP1 and SP2 was an exercise in frustration. The only connection with a fat pipeline on the 1700+ PC was the PCI Firewire card which was 4x that of the 10/100 LAN adapter. The firewire method works well enough when I want to P2P a couple of PCs together and share the internet of one with the other.

What's funny is after all the above was done, I dug through storage boxes in the garage and found a Linksys wired router.... Two* of them in fact. Ha Ha. :lol: The thing is I don't need them anymore and I'll just buy a PCI WiFi adapter for the 1700+ PC later.

*We used to have LAN parties at home when we lived back in AZ.

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O this house I am in, has ethernet ports in every room... so it was pretty simple for me. I couldn't live with wireless though, 54 mbp/s, 300 mbp/s, are too slow for the transfers I do.
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O this house I am in, has ethernet ports in every room... so it was pretty simple for me. I couldn't live with wireless though, 54 mbp/s, 300 mbp/s, are too slow for the transfers I do.JigglyWiggly_

Lucky you. Too bad our house in AZ was built in 1999. Only telephone modem jacks were standard in every room at the time. Now, all new houses have broadband, theater sound in mind. Meh. Broadband connections in every room will be my first pet project whenever we move back there. Here in NY, our house is very old and has nothing built in except electricity and a couple of spots for cable TV/broadband. I prefer wired networks myself especially in AZ where the houses in subdivisions are pretty close. Here in NY, WiFi is safe enough because of sheer distance from the street. The next house is quite a walk away.