Is it true that Starcraft 2 and diablo 3 are impossible to be pirated ?

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#1 herzalot
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I have heard that in single-player mode, you must save the game on battle.net servers and that means those games can not be pirated. that means pirates should forget about those games ! too bad for them.they could gain a lot of money from D3 and SC2. now I want to know, is that true ? Note : please don't write any solutions about how pirates pirate those games or moderators both moderate you and me !
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#2 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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Nothing is impossible to pirate.
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#3 dakan45
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Well so far i havent heard anyone not complaining about piracy, all the companies do that, which means all have been pirated so far. I am not gonna even try to think how can they possibly hack that saving system, because moderators can even read your mind...:lol: But so far everything has been pirated and when i say everything i mean even multiplayer games and mmos, so i guess it can be pirated as well :( But hey its blizzard so it doesnt matter, they will always be around.
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#4 vitriolboy
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But would that stop people just playing lan skirmishes on SC2? It's a new step anyway, no doubt people will moan that you will always need to be online but who isn't these days?

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#5 badtaker
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""""too bad for pirates .they could gain a lot of money from D3 and SC2"""""""""" You are one of them.
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#7 polarwrath11
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But would that stop people just playing lan skirmishes on SC2? It's a new step anyway, no doubt people will moan that you will always need to be online but who isn't these days?

vitriolboy
But I think they announced no LAN for SC2 a few weeks ago. They really have thought of everything. I'm sure someone will figure out a save workaround within a few weeks. But at least that buys SC2 some time to sell copies before a working pirated version hits the net.
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#8 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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[QUOTE="vitriolboy"]

But would that stop people just playing lan skirmishes on SC2? It's a new step anyway, no doubt people will moan that you will always need to be online but who isn't these days?

polarwrath11
But I think they announced no LAN for SC2 a few weeks ago. They really have thought of everything. I'm sure someone will figure out a save workaround within a few weeks. But at least that buys SC2 some time to sell copies before a working pirated version hits the net.

SC2 has an offline "Guest" mode. So it will be pirated at least a little at launch :P But it will definitely take a few days for hackers to get a fully functioning copy up.
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#9 stele29
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They will still be pirated. What Blizzard is doing is removing the ability from that average person to pirate it. While there are people there who have the knowledge to get around Battlenet, mainstream "pirates" are just people who visit sites like GameCopyWorld and then pat themselves on the back are gonna find it hard. Plus, since pirating them will mean no Battlenet (which means no patching, online play, etc, ), it will be much less appealing to the average joe. There is a point where its just too frustrating to pirated, and that is what Blizzard is doing. I actually agree with them in this. There is alot of talk going around about lan play, but im pretty sure they will still allow direct lan play. I'm pretty sure that Blizzard will require you to log in a and authenticate before being able to "host" lan games, as well as the clients. In the long run, the only people who would really find teh need to pirate these games will be those who A) pirate everything (thieving bastards), B) want to have lan parties and don't want to buy multiple copies of the same game. I lan party, so if at release Blizzard requires that all gamers be hosted by the battlenet servers, regardless of location (i'm pretty sure they won't), I will be will be ready to get some Blizzard butt.

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#10 zomglolcats
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Single player won't be impossible to pirate. It wouldn't be a hard task for a hacker to "trick" the game into thinking it's connected to bnet and activated. Same way they could play games like Bioshock that had online activations. However, what they will miss is being able to play multiplayer on bnet. No cd key or account = no connection. They are making permanent bnet accounts, they already started them with the WoW and Bnet account merges going on. And Starcraft 2 or Diablo 3 without bnet would be pretty lame imo.
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#11 teardropmina
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both games will be pirated and there'll be private servers for pirates to play MP games. however, as someone has mentioned, it'll be a very select group of people doing that.

in addition, those who are buying into the hype will not wait for cracked versions, and so saying that tight anti-piracy method would buy Blizz some time to sell some more copies is ridiculous and ignorant. they will sell mega amount of copies regardlessly. the tight online control is to assure that outside of that select group of pirates, there'll be very, very few people can play the MP for free.

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#12 DarthRevanchist
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Nothing is impossible to pirate.kieranb2000
As much as I would love them to be, I have to agree with above. Those pirates always find a way.
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#13 nutcrackr
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Probably somebody will set up a fake battle net variant to allow pirated copies or something.
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#14 dakan45
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[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Nothing is impossible to pirate.DarthRevanchist
As much as I would love them to be, I have to agree with above. Those pirates always find a way.

Basicly its a software, if it can be made, then someone can change it a bit and therefore pirate it, Anti pircay methods are programs and scripts, not magic spells.
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#15 2uneek4u
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well if you need to save your game saves in battle.net then that will screw people without the internet. and putting the whole guest offline will be useless then.

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#16 Dr_Brocoli
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But would that stop people just playing lan skirmishes on SC2? It's a new step anyway, no doubt people will moan that you will always need to be online but who isn't these days?

vitriolboy
late to the show lol, no LAN, you gotta play online.
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#17 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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I doubt it is impossible to pirate the SC2 and D3, but it will be about as gimped aspirated Valve games.

Meaning that theyd not be patched, and the pirates have to make thier own alternative to B-net to play online at all.

The SP would likely play fine, but who on earth would want to play a gimped game in any way?

Why anyone would pirate games anyways are beond me, "but they are free!" yeah you get what you pay for. And I doubt a Pirated SC2 or D3 (which are both very heavy on the mp part) is alot harder to pirate by default.

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#19 deactivated-5ee322a396e26
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if they weren't worried about piracy then they wouldn't be using this DRM , but i do agree that it is stupid for the forcing people to be online for single player.

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#20 dont-read-this
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Nothing is impossible to pirate.kieranb2000
GuildWars.
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#21 dont-read-this
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if they weren't worried about piracy then they wouldn't be using this DRM , but i do agree that it is stupid for the forcing people to be online for single player.

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You don't have to be online for SP.
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#22 Ontain
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well if you need to save your game saves in battle.net then that will screw people without the internet. and putting the whole guest offline will be useless then.

2uneek4u
it would be pretty annoying no to be able to save while offline on a plane or something.
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#23 CyberAltair5
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For every genius in Blizzard there's an equally clever pirate. I guess it's just a matter of how long it will take them to pirate it.

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#24 dnuggs40
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I'm not sure SP you need to be online to save...as far as I heard you just need to activate once...though could be wrong. Anybody actually have a source other than hearsay from gaming forums?
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#25 KalDurenik
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All Achivments / chats and so on require you to "login" (even to play single player). However you can still play as a guest. Note that you wont get any achivments and you cant talk to other people on b.net .

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[QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"] late to the show lol, no LAN, you gotta play online.

Actually, there is a sort of LAN in it. But you still need to be connected to the internet at all times for it.
[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Nothing is impossible to pirate.dont-read-this
GuildWars.

What about it?
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#27 johnny27
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yeah it will be hacked but multiplayer is a big part of both games and no lan means hamachi is out of the question so if all someone wants is singleplayer they won't miss out of anything but for the full experience you have to buy the game.
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#28 GPAddict
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I have heard that in single-player mode, you must save the game on battle.net servers and that means those games can not be pirated. that means pirates should forget about those games ! too bad for them.they could gain a lot of money from D3 and SC2. now I want to know, is that true ? Note : please don't write any solutions about how pirates pirate those games or moderators both moderate you and me !herzalot

What exactly is the point of this post, really?? :?

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[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Nothing is impossible to pirate.dont-read-this
GuildWars.

there are illegal private servers though they aren't nearly as popular. same for most mmorpgs.
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#30 herzalot
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[QUOTE="herzalot"]I have heard that in single-player mode, you must save the game on battle.net servers and that means those games can not be pirated. that means pirates should forget about those games ! too bad for them.they could gain a lot of money from D3 and SC2. now I want to know, is that true ? Note : please don't write any solutions about how pirates pirate those games or moderators both moderate you and me !GPAddict

What exactly is the point of this post, really?? :?

If you have paid attention, I asked is this true? I asked a question. that was the point.
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[QUOTE="dont-read-this"][QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Nothing is impossible to pirate.Ontain
GuildWars.

there are illegal private servers though they aren't nearly as popular. same for most mmorpgs.

Correct. Well, until you implied that Guild Wars was an MMO :p
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#32 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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they will find a way to pirate it. if it comes down to making a pirates' version of a battle.net server, it will happen. pirates will probably find a way to put a virtual server on their computer for the game to save to.
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#33 watchful_eye
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guys , FYI all you hear about companies saying that they lose money over piracy is a lie to cover up faliure for selling properly on PC , and for those who still don't believe this , well then believe me when i tell you that Microsoft and other game developing companies including THQ have found the ultimate piracy solution...(Drum Roll)...(Drum Roll) posponing every game's pc release for 5-6 months (Microsoft makes it 1 year) after console edition of the game , so if you tell me red faction : guerilla is gonna lose money on pc you're wrong 'cause they probably harvested the money out of console edition to compensate for pc edition piracy , add to that the happy news i bring for all those who want gears of war 2 , halo 3 , fable 2 , for pc , which is that if you look at GOW xbox release date and pc release date you'll notice a space of time between spanning 1 full year , so change GOW2 xbox release date for 1 year ahead + 1-2 months you've got a pc release date for it .

Microsoft sure is gonna hit big with that strategy , right ?

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guys , FYI all you hear about companies saying that they lose money over piracy is a lie to cover up faliure for selling properly on PC , and for those who still don't believe this , well then believe me when i tell you that Microsoft and other game developing companies including THQ have found the ultimate piracy solution...(Drum Roll)...(Drum Roll) posponing every game's pc release for 5-6 months (Microsoft makes it 1 year) after console edition of the game , so if you tell me red faction : guerilla is gonna lose money on pc you're wrong 'cause they probably harvested the money out of console edition to compensate for pc edition piracy , add to that the happy news i bring for all those who want gears of war 2 , halo 3 , fable 2 , for pc , which is that if you look at GOW xbox release date and pc release date you'll notice a space of time between spanning 1 full year , so change GOW2 xbox release date for 1 year ahead + 1-2 months you've got a pc release date for it .

Microsoft sure is gonna hit big with that strategy , right ?

watchful_eye

Hmm if thats true then when do we get halo 3 for pc?......just asking.

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#37 SpaceMoose
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All computer code can be modified. Also, you only need to activate Starcraft II once for single player the first time you play, so you heard wrong about needing to be online to play the single player campaign. You will need to be online if you want to use the achievement system though.

The only games that can't be pirated while still having them function correctly are online-only games like MMORPGs, since one needs the server code in order for things to behave properly, and one doesn't get the server code by downloading the client. Even if some third party did somehow come into possession of one version of the server code, those games tend to be constantly evolving anyway.

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#38 Ondoval
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I don't known -or care- if these games sould be pirated; only thing I can say is Diablo III outside Battle.net ladder is a non-sense. No matter how you think about it, Diablo and Starcraft outside His comunnity doesn't worth. Pirating a DIII game to play alone or in unofficial servers is absurd and mediocre, at most.

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#39 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="2uneek4u"]

well if you need to save your game saves in battle.net then that will screw people without the internet. and putting the whole guest offline will be useless then.

Ontain

it would be pretty annoying no to be able to save while offline on a plane or something.

You need B.net even if you play offline for one single reason, achievements, if you don't care, you don't need to be online or on B.net to play sp.

I don't known -or care- if these games sould be pirated; only thing I can say is Diablo III outside Battle.net ladder is a non-sense. No matter how you think about it, Diablo and Starcraft outside His comunnity doesn't worth. Pirating a DIII game to play alone or in unofficial servers is absurd and mediocre, at most.

Ondoval

So let me get this straight, if I choose to play alone in singleplayer, the first playthrough, because playing on B.net with other players is fun but distracts me from the actual game, is absurd? I don't know about you but when I played on B.net I couldn't care less about what's going on in the game, all I cared for was killing and getting better items, I prefer playing the game alone first time so that I can actually understand the story, the characters, etc.

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#40 k0r3aN_pR1d3
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I don't think that pirates will bother as much. Pirating the game will give you such a stripped down and featureless experience. Not to mention, Blizzard, unlike most other companies, actively sues and hunts down people who infringe on their property.
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#41 DanielDust
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I don't think that pirates will bother as much. Pirating the game will give you such a stripped down and featureless experience. Not to mention, Blizzard, unlike most other companies, actively sues and hunts down people who infringe on their property. k0r3aN_pR1d3
I'm sure they do ;) I mean in this perfect world there are no private servers that can be traced easily, people that cheat or do various exploits, illegal things in WoW, private Diablo servers, fake War 3 and SC B.net, that can all be traced easily by Blizz, and yet nothing. If you want to say something about Blizzard, it's that they don't care/bother, they used to but nowadays they just let it slide.
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#42 AdamWriter
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SC2 I'm not worried as much for, but Diablo 3 I'd like to play online, so I'll most likely buy when it comes out.

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#43 True_Sounds
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Nothing is impossible to pirate. [2]

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Nothing is impossible to pirate.kieranb2000
[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Nothing is impossible to pirate.dont-read-this
GuildWars.

There are private servers for that too...
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[QUOTE="watchful_eye"]

guys , FYI all you hear about companies saying that they lose money over piracy is a lie to cover up faliure for selling properly on PC , and for those who still don't believe this , well then believe me when i tell you that Microsoft and other game developing companies including THQ have found the ultimate piracy solution...(Drum Roll)...(Drum Roll) posponing every game's pc release for 5-6 months (Microsoft makes it 1 year) after console edition of the game , so if you tell me red faction : guerilla is gonna lose money on pc you're wrong 'cause they probably harvested the money out of console edition to compensate for pc edition piracy , add to that the happy news i bring for all those who want gears of war 2 , halo 3 , fable 2 , for pc , which is that if you look at GOW xbox release date and pc release date you'll notice a space of time between spanning 1 full year , so change GOW2 xbox release date for 1 year ahead + 1-2 months you've got a pc release date for it .

Microsoft sure is gonna hit big with that strategy , right ?

dakan45

Hmm if thats true then when do we get halo 3 for pc?......just asking.

Look for the halo 3 xbox release date , turn it for 1 year ahead and about 1-2 months and you've got a pc release date .

I forgot to mention the fact that Microsoft sometimes likes to play with release date , so if we take fable for example , Microsoft released it for pc after fable TLC , and i'm guessing halo 3 will come for pc on halo 3 : ODST's release date , or after the halo series ends releasing editions and episodes of it on xbox , i'm saying this because turning halo 3's release date a year ahead will have it coming out in 2008 , but apply the "1 year ahead" rule to GOW2 and Fable 2 you'll get a release date , BUT BE SURE THAT SUCCESFUL MICROSOFT FRANCHISES WILL COME FOR PC .

PS: i'm not the only one talking about this , surf the forums on the net and you'll the same theory again, Heck, search Epic games' forum for that .

PPS: This theory is not static , we need more examples of games on xbox released for pc to make a good theory to work on .


PPPS: i can continue this on my e-mail , mail me at rashad3333@gmail.com

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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="watchful_eye"]

guys , FYI all you hear about companies saying that they lose money over piracy is a lie to cover up faliure for selling properly on PC , and for those who still don't believe this , well then believe me when i tell you that Microsoft and other game developing companies including THQ have found the ultimate piracy solution...(Drum Roll)...(Drum Roll) posponing every game's pc release for 5-6 months (Microsoft makes it 1 year) after console edition of the game , so if you tell me red faction : guerilla is gonna lose money on pc you're wrong 'cause they probably harvested the money out of console edition to compensate for pc edition piracy , add to that the happy news i bring for all those who want gears of war 2 , halo 3 , fable 2 , for pc , which is that if you look at GOW xbox release date and pc release date you'll notice a space of time between spanning 1 full year , so change GOW2 xbox release date for 1 year ahead + 1-2 months you've got a pc release date for it .

Microsoft sure is gonna hit big with that strategy , right ?

watchful_eye

Hmm if thats true then when do we get halo 3 for pc?......just asking.

Look for the halo 3 xbox release date , turn it for 1 year ahead and about 1-2 months and you've got a pc release date .

Halo 3 came out in September 2007. It has been almost 2 years since it came out. Your theory fails. MS has stopped supporting the PC after Shadowrun and Halo 2 bombed. Their gaming department had been consistently losing money till they fired all their PC game developers, so I really doubt they are going to start making PC games again after that. Also, Halo 3 will not come out on PC on ODST's release date. We would have heard something by now about it.

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#47 watchful_eye
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[QUOTE="watchful_eye"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Hmm if thats true then when do we get halo 3 for pc?......just asking.

kieranb2000

Look for the halo 3 xbox release date , turn it for 1 year ahead and about 1-2 months and you've got a pc release date .

Halo 3 came out in September 2007. It has been almost 2 years since it came out. Your theory fails. MS has stopped supporting the PC after Shadowrun and Halo 2 bombed. Their gaming department had been consistently losing money till they fired all their PC game developers, so I really doubt they are going to start making PC games again after that. Also, Halo 3 will not come out on PC on ODST's release date. We would have heard something by now about it.


do you think microsoft will lie about releasing a game for pc and tell truth at the last minute + if you read what i said carefully my friend you would find that i said that this theory isn't necessarilt correct , so please if you really care about halo 3 coming out for pc you wouldn't lose hope about it until another year goes by ,and i admit I STILL HAVE HOPE and if my theory doesn't work out here's a new one :

microsoft may be waiting until windows 7 spreads through before they announce new games for pc because when they announce a game it'll be working ONLY ON WINDOWS 7 they did that with halo 2 & shadowrun they'll do it with Halo 3 & GOW2 .

PS: microsoft doesn't abandon anything they make , so if you care about pc games then search the net for news on this and let me add that 100's of rumors appear daily about this , don't you think that these rumors are advertisments about these games so you'd upgrade you're windows XP to Windows 7 , think about it and you'll a glimpse of hope for pc games set in a long dark tunnel of despair .

PPS : just do what i : search the net for these rumors they're endless , and they'll give hope for those who want and need it >

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[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Nothing is impossible to pirate.dont-read-this
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[QUOTE="dont-read-this"][QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Nothing is impossible to pirate.MrLions
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And do all of the enemies behave the same?
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[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="MrLions"][QUOTE="dont-read-this"] GuildWars.

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And do all of the enemies behave the same?

You mean the people or the AI?