Is it true that Starcraft 2 and diablo 3 are impossible to be pirated ?

the only games that arent pirated are the ones that are free anyway.. if you torrent those games ur tarded.

Anything made by another human can be redone / cracked / hacked by another human. Its just a mather of knowledge and time.

It can be pirated, but considering the DRM tool is probably coded inside the installer it's pretty damn hard to crack, and that isn't even considering the fact that you also have to reverse-engineer the B.net authenticatior.

Nevertheless, pirating a Blizzard game usually ruins the experience. It's definitely not worth it.

pirates are those who practice la perruque, they are making do, not asking to get the *authentic* thing to begin with. if they care about achievements and whatever benefit legit Blizz online community may have, they wouldn't go for crack version and private servers.

I believe the question is whether the two Blizz games would be possible to crack, rather than whether the cracked version would provide 100% gaming experience as the legit copy.

heres a way to ruin a game so even if its cracked it would suck eggs.. make it connected to windows live! :P

whats worse give it achievements :P

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]

[QUOTE="watchful_eye"] Halo 3 came out in September 2007. It has been almost 2 years since it came out. Your theory fails. MS has stopped supporting the PC after Shadowrun and Halo 2 bombed. Their gaming department had been consistently losing money till they fired all their PC game developers, so I really doubt they are going to start making PC games again after that. Also, Halo 3 will not come out on PC on ODST's release date. We would have heard something by now about it.

watchful_eye

do you think microsoft will lie about releasing a game for pc and tell truth at the last minute + if you read what i said carefully my friend you would find that i said that this theory isn't necessarilt correct , so please if you really care about halo 3 coming out for pc you wouldn't lose hope about it until another year goes by ,and i admit I STILL HAVE HOPE and if my theory doesn't work out here's a new one :

microsoft may be waiting until windows 7 spreads through before they announce new games for pc because when they announce a game it'll be working ONLY ON WINDOWS 7 they did that with halo 2 & shadowrun they'll do it with Halo 3 & GOW2 .

PS: microsoft doesn't abandon anything they make , so if you care about pc games then search the net for news on this and let me add that 100's of rumors appear daily about this , don't you think that these rumors are advertisments about these games so you'd upgrade you're windows XP to Windows 7 , think about it and you'll a glimpse of hope for pc games set in a long dark tunnel of despair .

PPS : just do what i : search the net for these rumors they're endless , and they'll give hope for those who want and need it >

2. Microsoft abandons a lot when it comes to PC gaming and that "is" a fact.

3. Rumors are irelevant. Here I'll tell you a rumor, Alan Wake (which I don't really care about anymore) was officially rumored to be a PC game, and now there are official rumors that it isn't going to be released on PC (could be after years but I don't care as I said), so official rumors (facts) are better for me than rumors.

Microsoft doesn't do games, especially PC games, they do Windows (which is what makes PC gaming possible in the first place and that is more important than a few average games) and Xbox.

heres a way to ruin a game so even if its cracked it would suck eggs.. make it connected to windows live! :P

whats worse give it achievements :P

aura_enchanted

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="MrLions"] You mean the people or the AI?DanielDust

There is something called Garena.

I don't known -or care- if these games sould be pirated; only thing I can say is Diablo III outside Battle.net ladder is a non-sense. No matter how you think about it, Diablo and Starcraft outside His comunnity doesn't worth. Pirating a DIII game to play alone or in unofficial servers is absurd and mediocre, at most.

Ondoval

I'm not sure SP you need to be online to save...as far as I heard you just need to activate once...though could be wrong. Anybody actually have a source other than hearsay from gaming forums? dnuggs40

There is something called Garena.

shakmaster13

/facepalm

How can you "pirate" through a LAN emulator that requires an online authentication :roll: ?

There's a lot of games you can "pirate" but have just about no multiplayer function (unless you really enjoy really small and scarce LAN games.)

No worries here, I plan to buy both games either way.

[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

I don't known -or care- if these games sould be pirated; only thing I can say is Diablo III outside Battle.net ladder is a non-sense. No matter how you think about it, Diablo and Starcraft outside His comunnity doesn't worth. Pirating a DIII game to play alone or in unofficial servers is absurd and mediocre, at most.

carlosjuero

They said GTA IV couldn't be pirated...and look what happened.

If you aren't up to date, SC2 has achievements :P and obviously through B.net not the mediocre LIVE.DanielDust

oh im up to date i just think that if a game is linked to windows live its a big turnoff.

in short all things can and will be pirated (except the alrdy free stuff thats just wasteful). but will it be as good.. almost never.

Not true. Hackers always find a way. This is why the PC market is practically dead, except for MMO'S. (in whose case, you need a unique serial code) McSquigee

Not true. Hackers always find a way. This is why the PC market is practically dead, except for MMO'S. (in whose case, you need a unique serial code) McSquigee

[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

I don't known -or care- if these games sould be pirated; only thing I can say is Diablo III outside Battle.net ladder is a non-sense. No matter how you think about it, Diablo and Starcraft outside His comunnity doesn't worth. Pirating a DIII game to play alone or in unofficial servers is absurd and mediocre, at most.

DanielDust

So let me get this straight, if I choose to play alone in singleplayer, the first playthrough, because playing on B.net with other players is fun but distracts me from the actual game, is absurd? I don't know about you but when I played on B.net I couldn't care less about what's going on in the game, all I cared for was killing and getting better items, I prefer playing the game alone first time so that I can actually understand the story, the characters, etc.

To play alone is not a problem, to play alone outside of Battle.net IS. Because you can't trade or play in the open realm or in the ladder if your characters are outside of the battle.net system. You can play alone whereas you want, but is always better with a battle.net character, because you can take advantage when you want to rush your character level in baalruns or simply to trade with other players.

[QUOTE="McSquigee"]Not true. Hackers always find a way. This is why the PC market is practically dead, except for MMO'S. (in whose case, you need a unique serial code) dnuggs40

+1

PC market is healthy, It moves more money than Xbox 360 or PS3 software alone and at the same tine is the source of constant improving in hardware thanx to the close relationship between videogames and technology. It also provides almost full backwards compatibility and the chance to constantly improve the experience of gaming in older titles because the more advanced technology.

I must remark, also, that outside Halo 2, almost all console games are online-dead in less than 4 years after the launchship, that's shocking SHORT compared to the outstanding endurance of most of the better games in PC (UT, Q3A, CS, Starcraft, Diablo II... ).

+1

PC market is healthy, It moves more money than Xbox 360 or PS3 software alone and at the same tine is the source of constant improving in hardware thanx to the close relationship between videogames and technology. It also provides almost full backwards compatibility and the chance to constantly improve the experience of gaming in older titles because the more advanced technology.

I must remark, also, that outside Halo 2, almost all console games are online-dead in less than 4 years after the launchship, that's shocking SHORT compared to the outstanding endurance of most of the better games in PC (UT, Q3A, CS, Starcraft, Diablo II... ).

Ondoval

4 years?

Did Halos on PC even get past the first few months, let alone the other crap ports?

Is hard to belive, but in PC the first Halo is still in the top 30 most played games at day based on the Xfire stats -that are not complete but very representative-, with way larger base of players and minutes at day than holy cows as UT 2004, Q3A and a lot of modern fps and rts (CoH, UT III, Quake Wars, Crysis Wars, F.E.A.R. Combat, DoW & DoW 2... ).

Even I personally think that Halo is vastly overrated, I must admit that the game has a legion of fans... even in the PC market :/

But aside Halo most of mp in consoles are "to use and discard"; inexistent permanent community in most of the cases -exception are the fighting games-.

Nothing is impossible to pirate.kieranb2000

Not true. Hackers always find a way. This is why the PC market is practically dead, except for MMO'S. (in whose case, you need a unique serial code) McSquigee

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

There is something called Garena.

Mograine

/facepalm

How can you "pirate" through a LAN emulator that requires an online authentication :roll: ?

Bioshock had crazy DRM, and that was hacked pretty fast, so I doubt this won't get hacked either.

Is hard to belive, but in PC the first Halo is still in the top 30 most played games at day based on the Xfire stats -that are not complete but very representative-, with way larger base of players and minutes at day than holy cows as UT 2004, Q3A and a lot of modern fps and rts (CoH, UT III, Quake Wars, Crysis Wars, F.E.A.R. Combat, DoW & DoW 2... ).

Even I personally think that Halo is vastly overrated, I must admit that the game has a legion of fans... even in the PC market :/

But aside Halo most of mp in consoles are "to use and discard"; inexistent permanent community in most of the cases -exception are the fighting games-.

Ondoval

Bioshock had crazy DRM, and that was hacked pretty fast, so I doubt this won't get hacked either.

shakmaster13

What the hell has Bioshock's DRM to do with what we're talking about?

I was referring to your "There's a thing called Garena", nowhere did I say "it's uncrackable". You can't pirate a copy and play through a LAN emulator because you need to login to B.net with an authentical key before accessing the LAN feature.

Hacking B.net is possible but it requires partial reverse engineering of a server-side software, and that takes much, much more time than your average SecuROM cracking.

[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

Is hard to belive, but in PC the first Halo is still in the top 30 most played games at day based on the Xfire stats -that are not complete but very representative-, with way larger base of players and minutes at day than holy cows as UT 2004, Q3A and a lot of modern fps and rts (CoH, UT III, Quake Wars, Crysis Wars, F.E.A.R. Combat, DoW & DoW 2... ).

Even I personally think that Halo is vastly overrated, I must admit that the game has a legion of fans... even in the PC market :/

But aside Halo most of mp in consoles are "to use and discard"; inexistent permanent community in most of the cases -exception are the fighting games-.

johnny27

Yep. See my point. Whatever 25th or 18th is very shocking to see Halo so high in popularity in online PC matches. Too close to games as Q3A and UT (living legends).

[QUOTE="johnny27"][QUOTE="Ondoval"]

Is hard to belive, but in PC the first Halo is still in the top 30 most played games at day based on the Xfire stats -that are not complete but very representative-, with way larger base of players and minutes at day than holy cows as UT 2004, Q3A and a lot of modern fps and rts (CoH, UT III, Quake Wars, Crysis Wars, F.E.A.R. Combat, DoW & DoW 2... ).

Even I personally think that Halo is vastly overrated, I must admit that the game has a legion of fans... even in the PC market :/

But aside Halo most of mp in consoles are "to use and discard"; inexistent permanent community in most of the cases -exception are the fighting games-.

Ondoval

Yep. See my point. Whatever 25th or 18th is very shocking to see Halo so high in popularity in online PC matches. Too close to games as Q3A and UT (living legends).

[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

[QUOTE="johnny27"]\ thats only xfire users it does not represent the full pc gaming community. and according to gametracker.com halo is ranked 18th while quake 3 is ranked 12th and the original UT is ranked 16th making it the most popular one currently.johnny27

Yep. See my point. Whatever 25th or 18th is very shocking to see Halo so high in popularity in online PC matches. Too close to games as Q3A and UT (living legends).

[QUOTE="johnny27"][QUOTE="Ondoval"]

Yep. See my point. Whatever 25th or 18th is very shocking to see Halo so high in popularity in online PC matches. Too close to games as Q3A and UT (living legends).

Cyrez60659

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

Bioshock had crazy DRM, and that was hacked pretty fast, so I doubt this won't get hacked either.

Mograine

What the hell has Bioshock's DRM to do with what we're talking about?

I was referring to your "There's a thing called Garena", nowhere did I say "it's uncrackable". You can't pirate a copy and play through a LAN emulator because you need to login to B.net with an authentical key before accessing the LAN feature.

Hacking B.net is possible but it requires partial reverse engineering of a server-side software, and that takes much, much more time than your average SecuROM cracking.

You said it required online activation so I assumed it was some crazy DRm which came with Bioshock(maybe it was another game, but it required a limited online activations for installation). My bad.

And hackers WILL crack it. Dude, stop sipping the activision kool aid. Seeing as how there are private servers for and mmorpg like world of warcraft(thousands), I am assuming that getting LAN on SC will be done eventually. Emulation will kick in. It's just a matter of time after release. Activision knows this too. The only reason they are going to make you go through bnet is too see the ads they have there.

You said it required online activation so I assumed it was some crazy DRm which came with Bioshock(maybe it was another game, but it required a limited online activations for installation). My bad.

And hackers WILL crack it. Dude, stop sipping the activision kool aid. Seeing as how there are private servers for and mmorpg like world of warcraft(thousands), I am assuming that getting LAN on SC will be done eventually. Emulation will kick in. It's just a matter of time after release. Activision knows this too. The only reason they are going to make you go through bnet is too see the ads they have there.

shakmaster13

Indeed Bioshock's DRM required an online activation on installation, but what we are talking about here is "playing online", not "cracking the authenticator".

World of Warcraft private servers are NOT illegal as long as you have a legal copy of the game. Tampering with Battle.net, instead, IS illegal.

That means Blizzard can't do anything about the private servers other than keeping the playerbase on the official ones with a better service, but they can (and they DID) file a lawsuit if anyone tries to reverse-engineer B.net (search on wikipedia "bnetd"). This implies that unofficial servers, even if cracked, cannot keep more than a few chosen people because eventually the news about a free B.net and of course multiplayer pirating would spread too much, and proper action would be taken.

Not true. Hackers always find a way. This is why the PC market is practically dead, except for MMO'S. (in whose case, you need a unique serial code) McSquigee

there will be a pirate copy ciculating the net in a week or two from release, as there always is

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

You said it required online activation so I assumed it was some crazy DRm which came with Bioshock(maybe it was another game, but it required a limited online activations for installation). My bad.

And hackers WILL crack it. Dude, stop sipping the activision kool aid. Seeing as how there are private servers for and mmorpg like world of warcraft(thousands), I am assuming that getting LAN on SC will be done eventually. Emulation will kick in. It's just a matter of time after release. Activision knows this too. The only reason they are going to make you go through bnet is too see the ads they have there.

Mograine

Indeed Bioshock's DRM required an online activation on installation, but what we are talking about here is "playing online", not "cracking the authenticator".

World of Warcraft private servers are NOT illegal as long as you have a legal copy of the game. Tampering with Battle.net, instead, IS illegal.

That means Blizzard can't do anything about the private servers other than keeping the playerbase on the official ones with a better service, but they can (and they DID) file a lawsuit if anyone tries to reverse-engineer B.net (search on wikipedia "bnetd"). This implies that unofficial servers, even if cracked, cannot keep more than a few chosen people because eventually the news about a free B.net and of course multiplayer pirating would spread too much, and proper action would be taken.

I'm not arguing the legality of it I'm just saying that it will happen, legal or not. And once the code for it gets out people will go out of their way to make more software to emulate B.net

If blizzard takes action, pirates can just respond by not using patched up versions of the game.