Is the geforce 8600 gts enough??

well, thank you all for your responses you really helped me to make a decision, maybe i'll go for the DX9 cards, because I think that DX10 will not be a standard until about 2 years or more, and I don't see a big difference between the two in graphical terms.....however the 8600 gts still fits in the posibilities, or maybe I'm gonna sacrifice the E6600 for a 6420 and also other things for buying a 8800 gtszemus66

[QUOTE="el_carl"]And when I said I downloaded GRAW 2, I meant the demo, I don't pirate games or whatever.Random__Guy

Thats it, your going to jail.

[QUOTE="Random__Guy"]

[QUOTE="el_carl"]And when I said I downloaded GRAW 2, I meant the demo, I don't pirate games or whatever.el_carl

Thats it, your going to jail.

:o OMGOMGOGOM IVE GOT THE SCREEN !!1!11 YOURE TRAPPED!!!!11!ONE!

[QUOTE="el_carl"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"]

[QUOTE="el_carl"]And when I said I downloaded GRAW 2, I meant the demo, I don't pirate games or whatever.wklzip

Thats it, your going to jail.

:o OMGOMGOGOM IVE GOT THE SCREEN !!1!11 YOURE TRAPPED!!!!11!ONE!

You should hear the helicopters any time now.

[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]They wouldn't alienate most PC gamers by making them upgrade to SM4.0.el_carl

They did with oblivion and SM3.0

Oblivion runs on x800 cards. Its the Unreal 3 engine that requires SM3.0 and thats cause SM3.0 had been around for a while now. Thats only 1 gaming engine too.

Crysis will be SM2.0 compliant.

Maybe it wasent SM3.0, but i remmeber they did alienate alot of people somehow.

It was SM3.0 requirement to play R6V, GRAW2 and SCDA. I dont know if that was just Ubisoft doing that, but I couldnt see them hurting sales like that. So I think its a requirement of the Unreal 3 engine to have SM3.0 cards. Remember Unreal 3 engine is an nvidia favorite, so what has nvidia been doing for 3yrs now? SM3.0

Same thing happens with Cell Factor. Its not supposed to support SM2.0 cards and apparently it can run on a x800 series card. Although at 1fps the guy said. hahaha.

[QUOTE="ForlornHope"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="ForlornHope"]that card is a failure its onyl slightly faster than a 7600gt.9mmSpliff

you heard wrong good sir it is even with the 7900 gs in almost every game

uh no the cheapest 8600gts is the entry level dx10 card for the masses and I heard its clocks are only slighty above a 7600gt :S weird.

Youre always full of something Forlorn. It beats the 7600gt and loses to the 7900gs. Its around the performance of a 7800gt.

Excuse me?

[QUOTE="el_carl"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]They wouldn't alienate most PC gamers by making them upgrade to SM4.0.9mmSpliff

They did with oblivion and SM3.0

Oblivion runs on x800 cards. Its the Unreal 3 engine that requires SM3.0 and thats cause SM3.0 had been around for a while now. Thats only 1 gaming engine too.

Crysis will be SM2.0 compliant.

Maybe it wasent SM3.0, but i remmeber they did alienate alot of people somehow.

It was SM3.0 requirement to play R6V, GRAW2 and SCDA. I dont know if that was just Ubisoft doing that, but I couldnt see them hurting sales like that. So I think its a requirement of the Unreal 3 engine to have SM3.0 cards. Remember Unreal 3 engine is an nvidia favorite, so what has nvidia been doing for 3yrs now? SM3.0

Same thing happens with Cell Factor. Its not supposed to support SM2.0 cards and apparently it can run on a x800 series card. Although at 1fps the guy said. hahaha.

[QUOTE="ForlornHope"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="ForlornHope"]that card is a failure its onyl slightly faster than a 7600gt.inyourface_12

you heard wrong good sir it is even with the 7900 gs in almost every game

uh no the cheapest 8600gts is the entry level dx10 card for the masses and I heard its clocks are only slighty above a 7600gt :S weird.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127284

my bad i knew it was one of the 7 series. Still its kind of crap if the current crop of 7s beats it.

The 8600 GTS is not a BAD card. The GTS version does beat out the GT by a decent margin. But we have been seing some slight drops in what you can get a 8800 GTS 320mb for.

The XFX 8800 GTS is now just 250 after rebate at Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150172

but if you do not want to buy a 8800 GTS, then finding a 8600 GTS for a low price is not a bad option if you want DX10 capabilites. If you have no interest in DX10 for a while, or want to wait, you could get something like 7900 GS or a 7800 GT, something around there.

[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="el_carl"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]They wouldn't alienate most PC gamers by making them upgrade to SM4.0.el_carl

They did with oblivion and SM3.0

Oblivion runs on x800 cards. Its the Unreal 3 engine that requires SM3.0 and thats cause SM3.0 had been around for a while now. Thats only 1 gaming engine too.

Crysis will be SM2.0 compliant.

Maybe it wasent SM3.0, but i remmeber they did alienate alot of people somehow.

It was SM3.0 requirement to play R6V, GRAW2 and SCDA. I dont know if that was just Ubisoft doing that, but I couldnt see them hurting sales like that. So I think its a requirement of the Unreal 3 engine to have SM3.0 cards. Remember Unreal 3 engine is an nvidia favorite, so what has nvidia been doing for 3yrs now? SM3.0

Same thing happens with Cell Factor. Its not supposed to support SM2.0 cards and apparently it can run on a x800 series card. Although at 1fps the guy said. hahaha.

Yep Cell Factor uses Ageia, so you need a PhysX card, or it loads it onto the CPU. It runs flawless for me with my new CPU. Maxed out @ 16x12 @ 30-40fps.

[QUOTE="el_carl"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="el_carl"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]They wouldn't alienate most PC gamers by making them upgrade to SM4.0.9mmSpliff

They did with oblivion and SM3.0

Oblivion runs on x800 cards. Its the Unreal 3 engine that requires SM3.0 and thats cause SM3.0 had been around for a while now. Thats only 1 gaming engine too.

Crysis will be SM2.0 compliant.

Maybe it wasent SM3.0, but i remmeber they did alienate alot of people somehow.

It was SM3.0 requirement to play R6V, GRAW2 and SCDA. I dont know if that was just Ubisoft doing that, but I couldnt see them hurting sales like that. So I think its a requirement of the Unreal 3 engine to have SM3.0 cards. Remember Unreal 3 engine is an nvidia favorite, so what has nvidia been doing for 3yrs now? SM3.0

Same thing happens with Cell Factor. Its not supposed to support SM2.0 cards and apparently it can run on a x800 series card. Although at 1fps the guy said. hahaha.

Yep Cell Factor uses Ageia, so you need a PhysX card, or it loads it onto the CPU. It runs flawless for me with my new CPU. Maxed out @ 16x12 @ 30-40fps.

[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="el_carl"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="el_carl"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"][QUOTE="9mmSpliff"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]They wouldn't alienate most PC gamers by making them upgrade to SM4.0.el_carl

They did with oblivion and SM3.0

Oblivion runs on x800 cards. Its the Unreal 3 engine that requires SM3.0 and thats cause SM3.0 had been around for a while now. Thats only 1 gaming engine too.

Crysis will be SM2.0 compliant.

Maybe it wasent SM3.0, but i remmeber they did alienate alot of people somehow.

It was SM3.0 requirement to play R6V, GRAW2 and SCDA. I dont know if that was just Ubisoft doing that, but I couldnt see them hurting sales like that. So I think its a requirement of the Unreal 3 engine to have SM3.0 cards. Remember Unreal 3 engine is an nvidia favorite, so what has nvidia been doing for 3yrs now? SM3.0

Same thing happens with Cell Factor. Its not supposed to support SM2.0 cards and apparently it can run on a x800 series card. Although at 1fps the guy said. hahaha.

Yep Cell Factor uses Ageia, so you need a PhysX card, or it loads it onto the CPU. It runs flawless for me with my new CPU. Maxed out @ 16x12 @ 30-40fps.

youc an still run it, its just giong to run like garbage, casue te PhysX are transfered to the CPU. It brings Alpha Omegas PC to its knees at 15fps running SLI 8800gtx and a QX6700 and 4x1gb.

youc an still run it, its just giong to run like garbage, casue te PhysX are transfered to the CPU. It brings Alpha Omegas PC to its knees at 15fps running SLI 8800gtx and a QX6700 and 4x1gb.

9mmSpliff

[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"]

youc an still run it, its just giong to run like garbage, casue te PhysX are transfered to the CPU. It brings Alpha Omegas PC to its knees at 15fps running SLI 8800gtx and a QX6700 and 4x1gb.

el_carl

exactly. Ill say one thing, when this game runs like butter, WOW. Im sorry I should have put I dont run per pixel motion blur, which is by far the most realistic blur ina game yet. It blurs every-singe pixel when you turn fast. SO its like in real life when you whipe your head around. Its just that its a GPU crusher. If and when I get my 8800Ultra, then I shoudl be running that no problems.

It also goes for Infernal, GRAW, GRAW 2, Vanguard, AutoAssault, etc etc. Many games use Ageia PhysX and those games there use the PPU, but some more then others. Just like what Havok will have with their physics setup....it will depend on developers using it and Crysis will be the only game that does for a while. HL2 :E2 uses the CPU.

In a month maybe 6 weeks, I should be rocking this

Intel Q6600
2x2gb Mushkin Black Xtreme
eVGA 8800Ultra 768mb